K. Jackson-Klage gegen AEG- Der Prozess- Nur News -Keine Diskussion

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Kann einer Bitte eine kurze deutsche Zusammenfassung dieses Artikels (Jackson's security chief details drug concerns) geben? Ich weiß es ist heiß draußen

Deutsch steht doch gefettet unter den jeweiligen Absetzen......

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Kann einer Bitte eine kurze deutsche Zusammenfassung dieses Artikels (Jackson's security chief details drug concerns) geben? Ich weiß es ist heiß draußen

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The Jacksons vs. AEG Live — Zeugen von AEG, 5. Teil

1. August 2013

Am Dienstag hatte Brian Panish, Anwalt der Jacksons, die Gelegenheit, AEG Lives Expertenzeugen Eric Briggs, der am Montag ausgesagt hatte, ins Kreuzverhör zu nehmen.

Briggs hatte unter anderem ausgesagt, dass ein Aspekt, weshalb Michael Jackson Schwierigkeiten mit eventuellen Sponsoren gehabt hätte, sein geschätzter Schuldenberg von USD 400 Mio. zum Zeitpunkt seines Todes war. Panish fragte den Zeugen daraufhin, ob er in Betracht zog, dass das Vermögen, sprich die Aktiva, von Michael Jackson, insbesondere der Sony-ATV Katalog, grösser als seine Schulden gewesen waren. Briggs kam dabei ins Stottern und sagte, dass er wegen einer Geheimhaltungsvereinbarung ungern über Michael Jacksons Vermögenswerte sprechen möchte. Beim Nachhaken gestand Briggs ein, dass er zu einem früheren Zeitpunkt für den Jackson Estate als Berater tätig war, um den Wert des Musikkatalogs zu analysieren. Er hatte damals mit der Nachlassverwaltung eine Geheimhaltungsvereinbarung unterzeichnet, die ihm untersagte, den Musikkatalog mit Dritten zu besprechen. Sein Firma hatte jedoch vor dem Prozess von Jeryll Cohen, einer Anwältin des Jackson Estates, die Erlaubnis ersucht und erhalten, dass er in Rahmen dieses Prozesses als Experte für AEG Live agieren und aussagen dürfe. Briggs sagte auch, dass AEG Live sich des potentiellen Interessenskonfliktes bewusst war, bevor sie ihn angestellt hatten und dass sie kein Problem damit hatten.

Ein Pressesprecher für den Michael Jackson Estate sagte im Anschluss daran, dass ihm nicht bekannt war, was die Umstände oder Gründe waren, weshalb der Estate eine solche Erlaubnis im Sinne einer Verzichtserklärung in Bezug auf jeglichen potentiellen Interessenskonflikt genehmigen würde, der gegen die Interessen der Nachlassbegünstigten (Michaels Mutter und seine drei Kinder) sein könnte.

Schon wieder ein Interessenskonflikt. Immer wieder kommen Interessenskonflikte (explizit oder implizit) sowohl während des Prozesses als auch bereits während der letzten Monate vor Michaels Tod auf. Das vermittelt einem wahrlich kein gutes Gefühl. Werden wir jemals Klarheit haben bzw. die Wahrheit erfahren? Und wenn wir schon dabei sind: was ist eigentlich los mit Frank DiLeos Computer/E-Mails und Mobile Phone? Wo sind diese Daten und weshalb wurden sie trotz Gerichtsbefehl (noch) nicht ausgehändigt? Hier http://teammichaeljackson.com/archives/8910 der letzte, uns bekannte Stand in dieser Sache. Und auch hier gilt wieder: mehr neue Fragen als klärende Antworten.

Quellen: jackson.ch, cnn.com, teammichaeljackson.ch

Weiterlesen unter http://www.jackson.ch/the-jacksons-v...on-aeg-5-teil/
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Jackson's security chief details drug concerns

ead more here: http://www.star-telegram.com/2013/08...#storylink=cpy

By ANTHONY McCARTNEY

AP Entertainment Writer

LOS ANGELES — A former security worker for Michael Jackson told a jury Thursday that he was concerned the singer would overdose on prescription medications in the early 2000s but didn't see signs of impairment in the singer later that decade.
Ein ehemaliger Sicherheitschef für Michael Jackson sagte am Donnerstag einer Jury, dass er besorgt war der Sänger würde auf verschreibungspflichtige Medikamente in den frühen 2000er Jahren eine Überdosis haben, sah aber keine Anzeichen für eine Beeinträchtigung des Sänger später im Jahrzehnt.



Michael La Perruque said he occasionally went into the singer's hotel room to make sure he was breathing and would often find doctors to treat the pop superstar when he traveled. La Perruque retired from his job as a sheriff's deputy in 2001 to work as the head of Jackson's security detail and frequently traveled with him until 2004.
Michael La Perruque sagte er ging gelegentlich in das Hotelzimmer des Sängers um sicherzustellen, dass er atmete und er fand oft Ärzte, um den Pop-Superstar zu behandeln, wenn er reiste. La Perruque zog sich von seinem Job als Sheriff im Jahr 2001 zurück um als Leiter von Jacksons Sicherheit zu arbeiten und reiste häufig mit ihm bis 2004.


La Perruque said the singer's children called 911 during a trip to Florida in 2001 or 2002 after their father collapsed in a hallway in a hotel suite at Walt Disney World. He said he found Jackson unconscious, revived him before paramedics arrived and never saw any signs of drugs or alcohol that the singer may have taken.
La Perruque sagte die Kinder des Sängers riefen 911 während einer Reise nach Florida im Jahr 2001 oder 2002, nachdem ihr Vater in einem Flur in einer Hotel-Suite in Walt Disney World kollabierte. Er sagte, er fand Jackson bewusstlos, belebte ihn, bevor Sanitäter kamen und nicht irgendwelche Anzeichen von Drogen oder Alkohol sahen, die der Sänger genommen haben.



Paramedics checked out the singer and determined he didn't need further medical attention, La Perruque said.
Sanitäter checkten aus und sagten der Sängerr brauche keine weitere ärztliche Behandlung, sagte La Perruque.

Deborah Chang, an attorney for Jackson's mother said there was no evidence that the incident was drug-related.

He told jurors that his testimony Thursday was only the second time he had told the story. The first came in a deposition with lawyers for AEG Live LLC, which is being sued by Jackson's mother claiming the company negligently hired the doctor convicted of giving her son a fatal overdose of the anesthetic propofol.

AEG denies it is responsible for the singer's death.

La Perruque stopped working for Jackson in 2004, but returned to oversee his security in late 2007. He said he didn't see any signs that Jackson was impaired during the few months he worked for him again.

La Perruque hörte auf für Jackson zu arbeiten im Jahr 2004, kehrte aber zurück Ende 2007 um seine Sicherheit zu überwachen. Er sagte, er sag keine Anzeichen dafür, dass Jackson in den wenigen Monaten, die er für ihn arbeiteten wieder beeinträchtigt war.

He testified he last saw Jackson two weeks before the singer's death and he looked fine, but he noticed that his former boss was skinnier than usual.
Er bezeugte das letzte Mal sah er Jackson zwei Wochen vor seinem Tod und er sah gut aus, aber er bemerkte, dass sein ehemaliger Chef dünner als üblich war.

La Perruque said he spoke to two of Jackson's doctors about his concerns about the singer's prescription drug use, but that he never spoke directly about it to the singer because he didn't want him to become defensive.

"It was my concern that he may overdose," he said.

He said he knew Jackson had severe back pain and difficulty sleeping. Despite seeing the entertainer impaired, La Perruque said he never saw Jackson take any drugs or saw any signs of medications lying around.
Er sagte, er wisse Jackson hatte starke Rückenschmerzen und Schlafstörungen. Obwohl er den Entertainer beeinträchtigt sah, sagte La Perruque sah er nie Jackson Medikamente einnehmen, oder sah Anzeichen von Medikamenten herumliegen

Jackson did try to get help, he said. "He fought very hard to be sober," La Perruque said. "He fought very hard not to be dependent on these prescription medications."

Jackson habe versucht sich Hilfe zu holen, sagte er. "Er kämpfte sehr hart, nüchtern zu sein," sagte La Perruque "Er kämpfte sehr schwer, nicht abhängig zu sein von diesen verschreibungspflichtigen Medikamenten.

Jackson however kept members of his family away because he knew they were trying to stage an intervention, he said.
Jackson habe Mitglieder seiner Familie weggehalten, weil er wusste sie versuchten eine Intervention zu inszeniere, sagte er.

He told jurors that Jackson's younger brother Randy arrived at Neverland Ranch one day in a helicopter to speak with his brother about his medication usage. La Perruque said he turned him away.
Er erzählte Juroren, dass Jacksons jüngere Bruder Randy auf die Neverland Ranch kam eines Tages in einem Hubschrauber, um mit seinem Bruder über seine Medikamenteneinnahme zu sprechen. La Perruque sagte er schickte ihn weg.


He said Jackson called him in the middle of the night between 20 and 30 times in the early 2000s and was often mumbling and incoherent. Half those times La Perruque said he went to the singer's room to check on him, and they would start talking.
Er sagte Jackson rief ihn in der Mitte der Nacht zwischen 20 und 30 Mal in den frühen 2000er Jahren und murmelte und erschien inkohärent. In der Hälfte dieser Zeiten sagte La Perruque sagte, er ging zum Raum um nach ihm zu sehen, und sie würde anfangen zu sprechen.


"I think he was just lonely," La Perruque said. "He wanted somebody to talk to."

"Ich glaube, er war einfach nur einsam," sagte La Perruque. "Er wollte jemanden zum Reden."

Anthony McCartney can be reached at http://twitter.com/mccartneyAP

Read more here: http://www.star-telegram.com/2013/08...#storylink=cpy

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LaPerruque: MJ saw me and said Mike! Came running to me, gave me a big hug. He asked if they could talk, I took him to a private room.
LaP: Mj sah mich u. sagte Mike! Er kam z u mir gerannt, umarmte mich. Er frage, ob wir sprechen könnten, ich ging mit ihm in einen privaten Raum.

LaPerruque said he saw MJ about 2 weeks prior to his death. He was working for Janet, she threw a party for their parents at a restaurant.
LaP. sah MJ zuletzt 2 wochen vor seinem Tod. Er arbeitete für Janet, sie veranstaltete eine Party für ihre Eltern in einem Restaurant.


LaPerruque said he never thought of selling his story to the tabloids.
LaP. sagte, er habe niemals darüber nachgedacht seine Story an die Tabloids zu verkaufen.

"I was mad, but not mad at him," LaPerruque said. "Because of what I heard why we stopped working together." (financial reasons)
"Ich war ärgerlich, aber nicht auf ihn, sondern auf das was ich hörte, warum wir nicht mehr zusammen arbeiteten." (finanz. Gründe)

LaPerruque retained an attorney to speak with MJ's reps to enforce agreement they had. They settled.
LaP. beauftragte einen Anwalt, um mit MJs Repräsentanten zu sprechen, damit sein Vertrag erfüllt werde. Sie einigten sich.

LaPerruque said he tried calling MJ several times about getting paid but never heard back.
Er sagte, er habe mehrmals versucht MJ anzurufen, aber habe niemals eine Rückmeldung erhalten.

MJ then moved to Las Vegas. He spoke with Raymone Bain, who said MJ had moved. He never heard from anyone about working again.
MJ ging nach Las Vegas. Er sprach mit Raymone Bain, die ihm sagte , dass er weggegangen sei. Er hörte nie wieder was von irgendjemanden, ob er wieder arbeiten solle.

This was in November 2007. He still didn't get paid.
Dies war im Nov. 2007. Er wurde immer noch nicht bezahlt.

LaPerruque spoke with MJ. "He said he was very embarrassed not being able to pay me, he said he was going to make it right, apologized."
Er sprach mit MJ. " Er sagte, es sei ihm sehr peinlich, dass er mich nicht bezahlen könne, er wolle sich darum kümmern u. entschuldigte sich."

He stopped in the beginning of 2008. Work began in August of 2007, got paid in September and didn't get paid anymore until 2008.
Er hörte Anfang 2008 auf . Seine Arbeit begann im Aug. 2007, bezahlt wurde er im Sept. Dann nicht mehr bis 2008.

"The production company wasn't paying me for my services," LaPerruque testified.
"Die Produktionsfirma bezahlte nicht für meine Dienste."

LaPerruque said he stopped working for MJ due to financial difficulties. "I wasn't getting paid," LaPerruque explained.
LaP. sagte, er hörte auf für MJ zu arbeiten wegen finanzieller Schwierigkeiten. "Ich wurde nicht bezahlt," erklärte er.

LaPerruque said he did not have any concern with MJ being under the influence of prescription drug in 2007.
LaP. sagte, er hatte in 2007 keinerlei Bedenken, dass MJ unter dem Einfluss von Medikamenten stand.

The security head never told AEG about any of the concerns he had with Michael Jackson.
Der Sicherheitschef habe niemals mit AEG über MJ u. seinen Bedenken gesprochen.

LaPerruque said he seemed happy, did not ask about how the meeting went.
LaP. sagte, er schien glücklich, er fragte nicht danach, wie das Treffen lief.

The meeting lasted a couple of hours, LaPerruque said. He escorted MJ to Penn Station, he wanted to pick up some doughnuts for the kids.
Das Treffen dauerte einige Stunden. Er begleitete MJ zur Penn Station, um Donuts für die Kinder zu kaufen.

"Michael seemed bright and alert at this meeting. He seemed excited," LaPerruque said.
"Michael schien heiter und aufgeweckt . Er war schien sehr begeistert."

During this time, LaPerruque took MJ to NYC to meet with AEG Live execs. He escorted MJ into the room, probably 10 people or more present.
Während dieser Zeit, ging er mit MJ nach NY zu einem Treffen mit AEG Live . Er begleitete MJ in den Raum, in dem ca. 10 Leute anwesend waren.

LaPerruque had a written agreement to work as head of security for Michael Jackson. He worked for him for only a few months in 07.
LaP hatte eine schriftl. Vereinbarung als Chef der Security v. MJ zu arbeiten. Er arbeitete nur wenige Monate in 2007 für ihn.

Based on the meeting, that's why he went back to work with him in 2007. His job was the same as before. He spoke with Raymone Bain.
Aufgrund dieses Treffens ging er zurück um wieder mit ihm zu arbeiten. Sein Job war der gleiche wie zuvor. Er sprach mit Raymone Bain.

LaPerruque said Michael appeared bright, clear, energetic, full of energy. He wanted to do a lot of things.
LaP. sagte, Michael war voller Energie, hell, klar, enegetisch. Er wollte eine Menge Dingen tun.

They met face to face, since the last time they spoke was in the Arvizo trial. He wanted to hear what MJ wanted him back.
Sie trafen sich persönlich. Das letzte Mal, dass sie miteinander sprachen , war während des Arvizos Prozesses.

After meeting with him and speaking with his manager at the time, LaPerruque left the LA Times and went to work for Michael Jackson.
Nach dem Treffen mit ihm u. dem Gespräch mit Michaels damaligen Manager, verließ LaP. die LA Times u. arbeitete wieder für MJ.

LaPerruque: At that time, my children had grown older, started their own things, always enjoyed the challenge working for MJ.
Jetzt waren meine Kinder älter u. lebten ihr eigenes Leben. Ich habe immer die Arbeit für MJ genossen.

"He kind of grew on me," LaPerruque explained. "I did care for the man."
"Er baute auf mich (?). Es lag mir etwas an ihm."

LaPerruque: MJ always appreciated my loyalty, best security he ever had, asked me to return to work for him.
MJ hat immer meine Loyalität geschätzt, beste Security ...sagte er immer...fragte ob ich wieder für ihn arbeiten wolle.

Grace Rwamba called LaPerruque and said she wanted to meet him, had a message from Michael Jackson.
Grace R. rief LaP. an und sagte, sie wolle sich mit ihm treffen, hätte eine Nachricht von MJ.

In 2007 LaPerruque went back to work for Michael Jackson. He was still the head of security of the LA Times.
2007 ging LaP. zurück, um wieder f. MJ zu arbeiten. Er war immer noch SicherheitsChef der LA Times

He also worked on internal investigations, security of journalists working on hostile environment in Iraq.
Er arbeitete auch an internen Ermittlungenen, Sicherheit für Journalisten die in feindlicher Umgebung im Irak arbeiteten.

LaPerruque took other jobs. He became in charge for the security of LA Times printing plants and security of corporate office.
LaP. nahme andere Jobs an. Er arbeitete als Leiter der Sicherheit für die LA Times.

LaPerruque said the other reason was the revenue stream, which was harder and harder, and financial matters were becoming an issue.
LaP. sagte, der andere Grund seien die schlechte Einnahmequellen gewesen, es wurde schwerer u. schwerer und die finanziellen Dinge wurden zu einem Problem.

LaPerruque: He and I had discussed me taking some time off.
LaP.: Er u. ich diskutierten darüber, dass ich eine Auszeit nehmen solle.

He said he saw MJ's litigation with the Arvizo family (molestation accusation), had been in court before and knew how demanding it was.
Er sagte, er sah MJs Prozess , er war auch schon im Gericht u. wisse wie anstrengend sowas sei.

LaPerruque: I was never home, I missed a lot my children, birthdays, holidays.
"Ich war nie zu Hause, ich vermisste sehr meine Kinder, Geburtstage, Ferien."

First, he had two young children and at the service of MJ you work at his pleasure, you never had set schedule.
Erstens, hatte er 2 kleine Kinder u. wenn man für MJ arbeitete, so war das nach seinem Belieben , es gab keinen Zeitplan.

LaPerruque said there were two reasons he stopped working for MJ.
Es gab 2 Gründe warum er aufhörte für MJ zu arbeiten.

"I never saw him swallow a pill, never saw him take injections," LaPerruque testified.
"Ich habe ihn niemals eine Pille nehmen sehen, ich sah nie, dass er Injektionen bekam."

Putnam: Did you ever have an impression Mr. Jackson was trying to hide drugs from you? LaPerruque: No.
Putnam: Hatten Sie jemals das Gefühl, Mr. Jackson versuchte Drugs vor ihnen zu verbergen? LaP.: Nein.

Putnam: Did you have any understanding MJ was taking Propofol? LaPerruque: No LaPerruque never discussed using Propofol with MJ.
Putnam: Hatten sie irgendeine Ahnung, dass MJ Propofol nahm? LaP.: Nein.

LaPerruque: There was one occasion I took him the doctor and I assumed he was there to see if he could find anything to help him sleep.
LaP.: Es gab einmal einen Anlaß, wo ich ihn zum Arzt begleitete, und ich vermutete der Grund waren seine Schlafprobleme.

LaPerruque said Michael told him he had trouble sleeping. LaPerruque: He was trying to find something that would help him sleep.
Michael erzählte ihm, dass er Probleme habe einzuschlafen. Er versuchte etwas zu finden, was ihm helfen könnte zu schlafen.

"He demanded to see Michael," LaPerruque recalled. "I told him that MJ said he didn't want to see any of his family members at the time."
"Er verlange Michael zu sehen", erinnerte sich LaP. "Ich sagte ihm, dass MJ zur Zeit niemanden von seiner Familie sehen wollte."

LaPerruque: I was at the front gate, saw private helicopter flying very low over Neverland. Randy Jackson was in the helicopter.
LaP.: Ich war am Eingangstor, sah einen private Helicopter langsam über Neverland fliegen. Randy Jackson war drinnen."

"It was requested by Mr. Jackson," LaPerruque said. Putnam: He wanted to make sure his family members didn't come thru? LaPerruque: Yes
"Es war eine Anweisung v. Mr. Jackson, " sagte LaP.
Putnam: Er wollte sicher sein, dass keiner aus seiner Familie durchkam? LaP.: Ja.

LaPerruque: He told me that his family would be coming over to the rancho to speak with him and asked me to interface with his relatives.
LaP.: Er sagte mir, dass seine Familie kommen würde, um mit ihm zu reden u. er bat mich mit seinen Verwandten zu treffen.

LaPerruque remembers in 2001 Jackson family attempting an intervention. MJ asked him to come up to the ranch right away.
LaP. erinnert sich, dass 2001 die Jackson Familie eine Intervention versuchte. MJ bat ihn sofort zur Ranch zu kommen.

LaPerruque did not see any scarring regarding an implant. He was told by a physician, and judge didn't let him continue since it's hearsay.
LaP. sah keine Narben, die auf das Implantat deuten würden. Ein Arzt erzählte ihm davon...die Richterin lies ihn nicht fortfahren..wg. "Hörensagen".

Putnam: Did you ever understand MJ had surgical procedure implant to help him get off of drugs?
Putnam: Hatten sie je eine Ahnung, dass MJ ein Implantat bekam, was ihm helfen sollte, von den Medikamenten loszukommen?

The first time LaPerruque told anyone about this incident was in his deposition. Today in court was the second time.
LaP. sagte, in seiner Deposition sei es das 1. Mal gewesen, dass er über diesen Vorfall gesprochen habe. Heute im Gericht das 2. Mal.

Putnam: Did you consider you could've made a lot of money? LaPerruque: No P: Why? LP: Because I had a commitment to Michael Jackson.
Putnam: Haben sie schonmal überlegt, dass sie viel Geld damit hätten machen können? "Nein."
Warum nicht? LaP.: Weil ich eine Verpflichtung gegenüber MJ hatte.

Putnam: Did you speak with anyone about that incident before? LaPerruque: No P: Did you ever consider letting the tabloids know? LP: No
Putnam: Haben sie jemals zuvor mit jemanden über diesen Vorfall gesprochen? Nein.
Putnam: Haben sie niemals überlegt, die Tabloids zu informieren? LaP.: Nein.

LaPerruque would take MJ to doctors appointments, normally in Beverly Hills.He'd call building security alerting they were on the way.
LaP. brachte MJ zu den Arztpraxen, normalerweise in Beverly Hill. Er rief vorher die Gebäudesicherheit an, um zu sagen, dass sie unterwegs sein.

Putnam: Why didn't you talk to Mr. Jackson about it? LaPerruque: Because I didn't think it was my place.
Putnam: Wieso sprachen sie nicht mit Mr. Jackson darüber?
LaP.: Weil ich nicht dachte, dass es mir zustand.

Putnam: Did he ever thank you for coming over and helping him? LaPerruque: No P: Did anyone thank you? LP: No
Putnam: Dankte er ihnen jemals für ihre Hilfe?
LaP.: Nein.
Putnam: Dankte ihnen irgendjemand? "Nein."

LaPerruque said they left shortly thereafter. "I was just told we were gonna leave." LaPerruque never discussed this incident with MJ.
LaP. sagte, kurz danach reisten sie ab. "Man sagte mir, wir würden abreisen." LaP. sprach nie mit MJ über diesen Vorfall.


LaPerruque asked the paramedics to put on their report the name he checked himself under, not MJ name.
LaP. fragte die Sanitäter auf ihrem Bericht den Namen anzugeben, mit dem sie im Hotel eingecheckt hätten, nicht Michael Jacksons Namen.

LaPerruque: He was cleared, they told me he had to see a physician.
LaP.: Er war wieder bei sich, aber sie sagten mir, er müsse einen Arzt konsultieren.

LaPerruque tried to cancel paramedics, but they were arriving. He told them he found MJ and paramedics said they had to check him anyway.
LaP. versuchte die Sanitäter wieder abzubestellen, aber sie waren schon angekommen. Sie sagten, sie müßten ihn trotzdem durchchecken.

"He became conscious, I wouldn't say alert, but conscious," LaPerruque said. Putnam asked if he was groggy. He said yes.
"Er wurde ohnmächtig,

Putnam: Did you have to do mouth-to-mouth? LaPerruque: I did P: Did you see any drugs? LP: No P: Alcohol? LP: Not that I recall
Putnam: Mußten sie Mund-zu-Mund-Beatmung machen? "Ja, machte ich"
Haben sie irgendwelche Medikamten bemerkt? "Nein."
Alkohol?
"Nicht dass ich mich erinnere."

LaPerruque: I had to check for pulse, turned him over, shook him, ultimately was breathing. I was able to wake him up, took him to his room.
Ich überprüfte den Puls, drehte in um, schüttelte ihn, endlich atmete er wieder. Er kam zu sich, ich brachte ihn in sein Zimmer.

LaPerruque: I found Mr. Jackson in the hallway in the suite proned, unconscious.
Ich fand Mr. Jackson in der Eingangshalle seiner Suite, ohne Bewußtsein.

LaPerruque: I was able to go into the room, had called security partner to meet at the room as well to take the two children to nanny's room
Ich war in der Lage in sein Zimmer zu gehen, rief einen Kollegen ins Zimmer zu kommen um die beiden Kinder zur Nanny zu bringen.

LaPerruque: I grabbed Mr. Jackson's keys and found Prince and Paris crying. They were crying saying they couldn't wake up daddy.
Ich nahm Mr. Jacksons Schlüssel u. fand Prince u. Paris weinend vor. Sie schrien, sie könnten ihre Vater nicht aufwecken.

LaPerruque would set up times to have MJ's room cleaned.
LaP. mußte manchmal MJs Zimmer säubern.

LaPerruque said they would check in under assumed name. Room service would come to him and he would take it to MJ's room.
LaP. sagte, sie checkten mit Decknamen ein. Der Zimmerservice kam immer zu ihm u. er brachte dann die Sachen in MJs Zimmer.

LaPerruque: I was in my room, received phone call from hotel security that someone had called 911 from MJ's hotel room, like young children.
LaP.: Ich war in meinem Zimmer, als ich einen Anruf von der Hotel-Sicherheit bekam, dass jemand aus Michaels Zimmer die 911 angerufen hätte, wahrschein. Kinder.

They were staying at a Disney hotel. LaPerruque doesn't think a doctor traveled along. He stayed in a different room from MJ and kids.
Sie waren im Disney Hotel. LaP. meint, es war damals kein Arzt mit ihnen. Er wohnte in einem anderen Zimmer als MJ u. die Kids.

LaPerruque went a couple of times with MJ and his children to Disney World in Florida. There was a medical emergency once in 2001 or 2002.
LaP. reiste einige Male mit MJ u. den Kindern nach Disney World in Florida. Es gab einen Notfall in 2001 oder 2002.

The security head said he never saw, anywhere, prescription drugs in MJ's hotel room or at Neverland.
Der Sicherheitschef sagte, er habe niemals, nirgendwo, Medikamente in MJs Hotelzimmer oder auf Neverland gesehen.

LaPerruque never saw MJ do drugs or take prescription medication. He did see open wine bottles in his room.
LaP. sah niemals, dass MJ Drogen oder verscheibungspfl. Medikamten genommen hätte. Er sah offene Weinflaschen in seinem Zimmer.

"It was my concern he would overdose," LaPerruque testified.
" Ich hatte Angst, er würde eine Überdosis nehmen," sagte LaP. aus.

LaPerruque said that when he was with the sheriff's department he saw a number of people overdose and taken to emergency room.
LaP. sagte, als er noch bei der Polizei arbeitete, habe er eine Menge Leute erlebt, die eine Überdosis intus hatte u. in die Notaufnahme gebracht werden mußten.

Putnam: Where you concern it could cause overdose? LaPerruque: Yes.
Putnam: Waren sie besorgt, er könnte überdosieren? "Ja"

Putnam asked how he knew and he said he'd have discussions with the doctors and they would tell him.
Putnam fragte, wie er davon wußte u. er sagte, er habe Diskussionen mit den Doktoren gehabt, sie hätten es ihm erzählt.

"He would have the doctors treating him to get him off the harder narcotics," LaPerruque said.
"Er hatte Ärzte die ihm helfen sollten, von den stärkeren Narkotika wegzukommen." sagte LaP.

LaPerruque understood that MJ was working hard to battle the prescription medication dependency.
LaP. verstand, dass MJ hart daran arbeitete, die Medi-Abhängigkeit zu bekämpfen.

One day, LaPerruque said MJ told him he was clear. 'I just want you to know I'm going to stay this way,' LaPerruque said MJ told him.
Eines Tages erzählte ihm MJ, dass er clean sei. "Ich wollte ihnen nur sagen, dass das jetzt so bleiben wird" sagte MJ zu ihm.

"He fought very hard to not be dependent on prescription medication," LaPerruque testified.
"Er kämpfte sehr hart darum, nicht abhängig zu werden" sagte LaP.

LaPerruque: He knew I was there, he knew I saw him. There were times he fought very, very hard not to be dependent of those medications.
Er wußte, ich war da, er wußte ich sah ihn.

"I wanted to be close to him, to protect him, to watch him," LaPerruque testified.
"Ich wollte in seiner Nähe sein, um ihn zu beschützen, über ihn zu wachen." sagte LaP. aus.

LaPerruque: I believe he knew that I knew what was going. To bring up that conversation would put him on defensive, have barriers between us
LaP.: Ich denke, er wußte , dass ich wußte was vor sich ging. Mit ihm darüber zu sprechen hätte ihn in eine defensive Lage gebracht, Barrieren zwischen uns aufgebaut.

LaPerruque said they had some issues related to workload and work schedule, but for the most part it was a pleasure to work with Mr. Jackson
LaP. sagte, sie hatten einige Differenzen wg. der Arbeitsbelastung u. Planung, aber die meiste Zeit sei es ein Vergnügen gewesen mit Mr. Jackson zu arbeiten.

Putnam: Did you like Mr. Jackson? LaPerruque: Very much! Putnam: Was there a time you didn't like Mr. Jackson?
Putnam: Mögen sie Mr. Jackson? "Ja sehr!"
Putnam: Gab es eine Zeit, wo sie ihn nicht so mochten?

LaPerruque: There are some professional lines you don't cross and I think it was not my place.
LaP.: Es gibt da einige professionelle Grenzen,die man nicht überschreiten sollte und ich denke , es war nicht meine Sache.
LaPerruque said speaking with MJ about it would be crossing the line. Even though he developed close relationship, needed to have a distance
LaP. sagte, mit MJ darüber zu sprechen, hätte bedeutet eine Grenze zu überschreiten. Auch wenn sie eine enge Beziehung hatten, so sollte doch eine gewisse Distanz eingehalten werden.

Putnam: Why did you do that, sir? LaPerruque: It was part of my job.
Putnam: Warum taten sie das, Sir?
"Es war Teil meines Jobs."

LaPerruque: I'd take him back to his room and make sure he was okay. I would seat there and make sure that he was breathing.
LaP. : Ich brachte ihn zurück in sein Zimmer, u. schaute, dass er ok war. Ich saß neben ihm u. paßte auf, dass er atmete.

"He had slurred speech, incoherent, looked like he was going unconscious," LaPerruque said.
"Er sprach undeutlich, zusammenhangslos, schaute aus, als ob er gleich ohnmächtig würde." sagte LaP.

LaPerruque: In rare occasions, there were times he seemed to be under the influence of drugs in meetings, had to be taken back to his room.
In selten Fällen gab es Anzeichen, dass er während Meetings unter Einfluß stand, dann mußte er zurück in sein Zimmer gebracht werden.

LaPerruque'd knock on MJ's door, escort him to the room meeting would take place. He'd wait outside the door and escort MJ back to the room
LaP. klopfte am MJs Tür, begleitete ihn zu dem Zimmer in dem ein Treffen stattfand. Er wartete dann draußen u. begleitete MJ zurück in sein Zimmer.

People were given LaPerruque's cell number and would leave him messages for Michael.
Den Leuten wurde LaP. Telefonnummer gegeben, u. sie hinterließen ihm Nachrichten für MJ.

LaPerruque: Mr. Jackson had propensity of losing his cell phone. I think I counted he lost 27 cell phones (jury laughs).
Mr. Jackson hatte diese Neigung seine Telefone zu verlieren. Ich glaube er hat insgesamt 27 Handys verloren.
(Jury lacht)

LaPerruque: Any kind of emails and phone calls came to me. I'd relay the message to him, would go to his room to slip a note under the door.
LaP.: Alle Arten von Emails u. Telefonaten erreichten mich. Ich übermittelte ihm diese, in dem ich zu seinem Zimmer ging u. sie unter der Tür durchschob.

LaPerruque: Few times in the middle of the day I'd go into his room and he'd be displaying signs of being under the influence.
Manchmal ging ich mitten am Tag in sein Zimmer, und es schien er war unter Einfluß von Medikamten.

Putnam asked if LaPerruque spoke with MJ's family members or business associates. "I didn't believe it was my place to do that," he said.
Putnam frage, ob er mit jemandem aus MJs Familie oder Geschäftspartner darüber sprach.
"Ich glaubte nicht, dass es mir zustand, das zu tun," sagte er.

LaPerruque: I knew they (the doctors) would be treating Mr. Jackson and wanted them to have a clear picture going in.
Ich wußte die Ärzte würden Mr. Jackson behandeln und ich wollte, dass sie ein klares Bild hatten.

LaPerruque said his job was not only to protect MJ from fans or outside causes, but "I took it upon myself to take care of Mr. Jackson."
LaP. sagte, sein Job war es nicht nur MJ von Fans oder von äußeren Umständen zu beschützen, sondern "Ich fühlte mich für Mr. Jackson persönlich verantwortlich."

Putnam: What were you concerned? LaPerruque: Just his general health, it seemed the frequency of the intoxication to be more occurring
Putnam: Was genau machte ihnen Sorgen?
LaP.: Über seinen allgemeinen gesundheitl. Zustand....das vermehrte Auftreten des Rauschzustandes

LaPerruque spoke with Dr. Slavitch, Dr. Farshchian and Grace Rwamba about his concerns with MJ.
LaP. sprach mit dr. Slavitch, Dr. Farshchian u. Grace über seine Sorgen die er sich über MJ machten.

The relationship between Dr. Farshchian and MJ was already established when LaPerruque began working for the artist.
Die Beziehung zw. MJ u. Dr. Farshchian bestand bereits, als LaP. anfing für MJ zu arbeiten.

He was one of the physicians that traveled with MJ, LaPerruque said, probably chosen by MJ.
Er war einer der Ärzte die mit MJ reisten, wahrscheinl. v. MJ ausgesucht.

He also spoke with Grace Rwamba, MJ's children nanny at the time, about his concerns and Dr. Alimorad "Alex" Farshchian in Miami, Florida.
Er sprach auch mit Grace R. darüber u. Dr. Alimorad Farshchian in Miami.

"I was worried about his health," LaPerruque testified.
"Ich machte mir Sorgen über seine Gesundheit" bezeugte LaP.

LaPerruque spoke with Dr Slavitch from San Francisco. He said he became worried about MJ due to numerous times he saw MJ under the influence
LaP. sprach mit Dr. Slavitch aus San Francisco. Her sagte, er wurde zunehmend besorgt über die Häufigkeit in der er MJ unter Medi-Einfluß sah.

"I never performed any tests but the symptoms he was displaying were consistent with being under the influence," LaPerruque testified.
"Ich habe nie irgendwelche Test durchgeführt, aber die Symptome waren eindeutig."

LaPerruque: Because the objective symptoms he was displaying, slurred speech, nod.
LaP.: Wegen der Symptome die er zeigte.

Putnam asked what made LaPerruque think he was under the influence of drugs.
Putnam fragte, was ihn denken ließ, dass er unter Medikamten stand.

"I knew he had unusual sleep patterns," LaPerruque said. "I think he was just lonely and wanted somebody to talk to."
"Ich wußte er hatte ungewöhnliche Schlafprobleme", sagte LaP. " Ich denke , er war nur einsam u. wollte jemanden zum Reden."

LaPerruque: He asked questions about the next day's schedule, asked questions over and over.
LaP.: Er stellte Fragen was am nä. Tag anstand, stellte Fragen über Fragen.

LaPerruque: He wouldn't be very coherent, slurred speech, trying to fall asleep, incomprehensible
LaP.: Man konnte ihn kaum verstehen, lallende Sprache, versuchte einzuschlafen, unverständlich

Another 10 to 15 times, he wasn't asked to go to MJ's room, LaPerruque said. Total would be between 20 and 30 times.
Andere Male, 10-15 x, wurde er nicht gerufen, sagte LaP. Insgesamt passierte sowas zw. 20 u. 20 Mal.

Putnam: How many times did you go to his room? LaPerruque: Through the course of employment, probably 10 to 15 times.
Putnam: Wie oft geschah das? LaP.: Im Laufe meiner Tätigkeit, vllt. 10 bis 15 Mal.

"It's just slurred speech, sort of mumbling," LaPerruque said. He would be sleeping when MJ called.
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"We would be in the room and he seemed to have a hard time," he said. Putnam: Did he speak in an incoherent manner? LaPerruque: Yes
"Wir blieben im Zimmer u. es schien, dass er eine schlimme Zeit hatte".
Putnam: Sprach er zusammenhangslos? "Ja".

The security head said he would be asked to go to MJ's room, he had a key. "I would go to his room to make sure he was ok," LaPerruque said.
Er mußte dann zu MJs Zimmer gehen, er hatte einen schlüssel. " Ich ging in sein Zimmer um sicher zu sein, dass er ok war" .

"His speech would be very slurred, it would be a lot of mumbling, wouldn't understand him sometimes," LaPerruque described.
" Er sprach sehr undeutlich, viel Gemurmel, verstand ihn manchmal nicht," beschrieb es LaP.

LaPerruque said there were 3 times he was at a hotel and got a phone call in the middle of the night.
LaP. sagte, es war 3 x, dass er im Hotel mitten in der Nacht einen Anruf bekam.

Putnam: From Dec. 2001 to 2004, did you believe Mr. Jackson was under the influence of drugs? LaPerruque: Yes
Putnam: von Dez. 2001 bis 2004, glauben sie Mr. Jackson stand unter Einfluß v. Medikamenten? LaP.: Ja.

If doctor came along, it would be someone Mr. Jackson knew and they would have a hotel room. LaPerruque did not help find those doctors.
Wenn ein Arzt dabei war, war es jemand den Mr. Jackson kannte u. sie hätten ein HOtelzimmer. LaP. habe nicht geholfen, diese Ärzte zu finden.

LaPerruque testified he learned the client's needs and after been asked many times to find hotel doctor he understood it was part of his job
LaP. bezeugte, dass er die Bedürfnisse seines Schützlinges begriff, und nach dem er viele Male gefragte wurde, einen Hotelarzt aufzutreiben, verstand er, dass dies ein Teil seines Jobs war.

"It became commonplace to have a physician ready upon arrivals at hotels," LaPerruque said.
Es wurde zur Gewohnheit einen Arzt bereit zu haben, wenn man in Hotels ankam.

LaPerruque would call the doctor. He said MJ complained about back pains, but he didn't ask every single time what the complaint was.
Wenn MJ über Rückenschmerzen klagte, rief er den Arzt, aber er fragte nicht jedes Mal nach, welcher Art seine Schmerzen waren.

LaPerruque: I would go down to the concierge and ask if they had doctors they work with and get recommendation.
Ich ging dann runter zum Portier u. fragte , ob sie Ärzte hatten mit denen sie arbeiteten, um eine Empfehlung zu bekommen.

LaPerruque: We would get to a hotel and he would ask me to get the hotel physician.
Wenn wir in einem Hotel waren, bat er mich den Hotelarzt zu holen.

LaPerruque: He would have a physician present, also when we would go out and were staying somewhere he'd have me call a physician.
Er hatte auch einen Arzt dabei, wenn er ausging u. wenn er irgendwo blieb, mußte ich auch einen Arzt rufen.

LaPerruque never lived at Neverland Ranch. Putnam: Was there a period of time he was with a doctor on a daily basis? LaPerruque: Yes
LaP. hat niemals auf Neverland gelebt. Putnam: Gab es eine Zeit, wo MJ täglich bei einem Arzt war. LaP.: Ja.

LaPerruque: Anytime MJ stepped out of the property for extended period, going to LA or around the world, I was activated to accompany him.
Immer wenn MJ für eine gewisse Zeit außerhalb seines Grundstückes war, nach LA ging oder um die Welt reiste, wurde ich aktiviert um ihn zu begleiten.

LaPerruque was in charge of Mr. Jackson's protection and the protection of his children. He consulted regarding Neverland security.
LaP. war zuständig für Mr. Jacksons Sicherheit u. der seiner Kinder.

Putnam: Is it fair to say you quit your job with the Sheriff's Department to work for Michael Jackson? LaPerruque: I retired.
Putnam: Ist es ok zu sagen, sie haben ihren ob aufgegeben um für MJ zu arbeiten? LP: Ich habe mich pensionieren lassen.

In December 2001, LaPerruque was asked to be full time and head the security of Michael Jackson. For the NY trip, LaPerruque used vacation.
Im Dez. 2001 wurde er gefragt, ob er in Vollzeit die Leitung der Security f. MJ übernehmen wolle. Für den NY Trip nahme er Urlaub.

He went with MJ to NY to provide security at 30th anniversary of Madison Square Garden.
Er ging mit MJ Nach New York - Madison Square Garden.

MJ was shooting short film at the lot, so LaPerruque was asked to provide security some times.
MJ nahm einige Kurzfilme auf, er wurde gefragt hin u. wieder als Sicherheitsmann zu arbeiten.

The nanny would call him if they needed anything for MJ or the children.
Die Nanny rief immer an, wenn sie etwas brauchten.

LaPerruque stayed at the Universal Hilton, there was a room for him. MJ and the children, nanny, personal security team were there as well.
Er blieb im Universal Hilton, es gab dort einen Raum für ihn. MJ u. die Kinder, Nanny, Bodyguards waren auch dort.

Earlier in the summer/01, while still at the Sheriff's Dept, LaPerruque said man with MJ security asked for help at the Universal Hilton.
Im Sommer 2001, er war damals noch bei der Polizei, habe man ihn kontaktiert, um mit im Universal Hilton auszuhelfen.

Putnam asked if LaPerruque was trained to identify people intoxicated. He said yes, he attended drug intoxication courses.
Putnam fragt, ob er geschult sei zu erkennen, ob Menschen unter Drogen standen. Er sagte ja, er habe dafür Kurse absolviert.

First full time gig in private security was in December 2001. He was with the Sheriff's Department prior to that for 22 1/2 years.
Seinen ersten Job als privater Sicherheitsmann hatte er im Dez. 2001. Davor war er 22,5 Jahre bei der Polizei.

MJ hired LaPerruque 5-10 times in the Summer of 2001. He was hired full time in December 2001 and was under employment until 2004.
MJ engagierte LP 5-10 Mal im Sommer 2001. Im Dez. 2001 war Vollzeit angestellt u. bis 2004 im Dienst.

LaPerruque: I'm a security specialist, provide security for high profile people, celebrities, estate. I worked for Michael and Janet Jackson
Ich bin Sicherheitsspezialist, arbeitete für Michael u. Janet Jackson.

Putnam: Are you rooting for either side? LaPerruque: No, I'm not rooting for any side
Ob er mit irgendeiner Seite verbandelt sei...Nein.

Atty Marvin Putnam did the questioning. He asked if LaPerruque met with attorneys from defense and plaintiff prior to testimony. He said yes
Putnam befragt den Zeugen LaPerruque. Er hatte Treffen mit Anwälten der Anklage u. Verteidigung.

[geli2709]

The Jacksons vs. AEG Live — Zeugen von AEG, 4. Teil

1. August 2013

Am Montag hat Eric Briggs, ein Berater in der Entertainmentbranche, der unter anderem für den Nachlass von Elvis Presley und Frank Sinatra tätig war, als Expertenzeuge für AEG Live ausgesagt. Wie bereits letzte Woche bei John Meglins Aussage sollte auch Eric Briggs Aussage bezwecken, die Aussage von Jackson Experte Arthur Erk zu entkräftigen.

Briggs meinte, es wäre gefährlich spekulativ anzunehmen, dass Michael Jackson alle 50 Konzerte performt hätte und schon gar nicht eine Welttournee mit 260 Shows. Zudem war Michael Jackson bekannt dafür, dass er bereits sehr fortgeschrittene Projekte absagte. Auch betreffend die Konzerteinnahmen seien die Annahmen der Jackson Seite nicht realistisch. So hatte zB. die bis heute bestverkaufte Tournee aller Zeiten — die “360″ Tour von U2 — insgesamt USD 736 Mio. eingebracht. Die U2 Bandmitglieder hatten jedoch nach Abzug der Kosten für die Austragungsorte und der hohen Produktionskosten nur einen Bruchteil davon für sich behalten können.

Briggs hatte u.a. den sogenannten “Q Score” von Michael Jackson sowie den Trend seiner Albumverkäufe angeschaut und dazu berichtet. Mit Hilfe des “Q Score” entscheiden Unternehmen, welche Prominenten aufgrund deren Beliebtheit am besten für ihre Produkte geeignet sind. 1993, so Briggs, entsprach Michael Jacksons “Q Score” demjenigen eines durchschnittlichen männlichen Musical Performers. Dh. einer von zwei Befragten sagte, dass er Michael Jackson möge. Michael Jacksons “Q Score” verschlechterte sich dann jedoch im Verlaufe der nächsten paar Jahre. Im 2006, ein Jahr nach dem Freispruch im Kindesmisshandlungsprozess, sagten pro einer Person, die Michael Jackson mochte, mehr als 7 Personen, dass sie MJ nicht mochten. Unternehmen wären sehr zurückhaltend und besorgt, jemanden mit einem solch negativen Beliebtheitswert mit ihren Produkten in Verbindung bringen zu lassen.

Diese Aussage und der Umstand, dass sie AEG Lives Fall unterstützen soll, ist von daher interessant, wenn man bedenkt, dass die AEG Live Top Leute, wie bekannt, im 2009 sehr enthusiastisch waren, als die Tickets für Michaels “This Is It” Konzerte in Rekordzeit ausverkauft waren und bereits genügend Interessenten vorhanden waren, um weitere Shows auszuverkaufen. Sie waren also damals sehr stolz und zufrieden damit, ihren Namen erfolgreich und zu ihren Gunsten mit Michael Jackson in Verbindung zu bringen.

CNN berichtete übrigens, dass AEG Live ihrem Expertenzeugen Eric Briggs über USD 700’000 bezahlt hatte für seine Aussage bzw. die Vorbereitung dazu.

Quellen: jackson.ch, cnn.com, nydailynews.com

Weiterlesen unter http://www.jackson.ch/the-jacksons-v...on-aeg-4-teil/
Copyright © jackson.ch

[geli2709]

Interessenkonflikt !!!


Michael Jackson's estate consultant helps AEG Live's defense

By Alan Duke
updated 9:45 AM EDT, Wed July 31, 2013

STORY HIGHLIGHTS

* Katherine Jackson learns a consultant for her son's estate is helping defend AEG Live
* Michael Jackson's mother is suing AEG Live, contending it's liable for her son's death
* Consultant Eric Briggs says the estate approved his work for AEG Live's defense
* Briggs consulted for the Jackson estate in the past

Los Angeles (CNN) -- A lawyer for Michael Jackson's estate gave an entertainment industry consultant permission to help AEG Live in its defense of the wrongful death lawsuit filed by the pop singer's mother, the expert testified.

The revelation was a surprise to Katherine Jackson, who was sitting in court Tuesday listening to the expert testify that he believed her son would not have earned any money even if he had not died of a propofol overdose.

If jurors decide AEG Live is liable in Jackson's death, testimony by Eric Briggs -- whose company billed the concert promoter $700,000 to prepare his opinion -- could be used to determine how much in damages the company would have to pay to Michael Jackson's mother and three children.

Briggs, however, previously consulted for the Jackson estate in determining a value of it's biggest asset -- the Sony-ATV music catalog that includes the Beatles songs. He testified that before he signed a contract to serve as an expert in AEG Live's defense he sought and gained permission from the Jackson estate lawyer Jeryll Cohen to waive any potential conflict of interest.

"She (Cohen) was well aware of everything that was going on," Briggs testified.

A spokesman for the Michael Jackson estate was unaware of the circumstances or reasons why the estate would approve the waiver that could be counter to the interests of its beneficiaries -- Jackson's mother and three children.

An entertainment industry analyst hired by Jackson lawyers testified he was "reasonably certain" Jackson would have earned $1.5 billion from touring before retiring if he had not died while preparing for his comeback concerts in 2009.

Briggs testified that it was "speculative" that Jackson would have even completed the 50 "This Is It" concerts that AEG Live had already sold out in London.

Briggs said that based on what he'd learned from testimony in the case, he believed that Jackson would have died before the first show -- even if he had not suffered the fatal overdose of a surgical anesthetic on June 25, 2009. He cited the testimony of a doctor who said that Jackson would have been dead within a week if he remained under the care of Dr. Conrad Murray.

The Jackson lawsuit contends AEG Live is liable in Jackson's death because it negligently hired, retained or supervised Murray, who was convicted of involuntary manslaughter in the pop icon's death.

The Erk opinion included $300 million that he estimated Jackson would have earned from endorsements and sponsorships. But Briggs testified that "significantly negative headlines, drug abuse and other issues" had ruined Jackson's ability to earn endorsement and sponsorship money.

"Q score" data for Jackson, which measures his "likability," became dramatically negative by 2006 -- a year after he was acquitted in a child molestation trial, he testified. More than seven people said they disliked Jackson for every one who said they liked him, he said. Companies would be "very anxious" about putting someone with such a negative "likability" next to their products, he said.

One issue hurting Jackson's endorsement deal potential was his financial debt, estimated to be $400 million at the time of his death, Briggs said.

But Jackson lawyer Brian Panish asked Briggs if he considered that Jackson's assets -- most notably the Sony-ATV catalogue -- were greater than his debts.

Briggs stuttered on the witness stand, saying he was reluctant to discuss Jackson's assets because of a client confidentiality issue. He eventually acknowledged that he had worked for the Jackson estate as a consultant analyzing the value of the music catalog. He signed a confidentiality agreement with the estate, which he said prevented him from discussing it.

His company did, however, clear his participation in the wrongful death case with a Jackson estate lawyer before he agreed to be an expert for AEG Live, he said.

Briggs also said AEG Live lawyers were aware of the potential conflict before hiring him and had no problem with it.

Wednesday is the 60th day of testimony in the trial, which began 14 weeks ago in a Los Angeles County court. The judge told jurors she expects testimony to conclude in mid-September.

http://www.cnn.com/2013/07/31/showbiz/jackson-death-trial/?hpt=us_c2

dazu mit Übersetzungsprogramm aus dem Gerichtsprotokoll:

http://teammichaeljackson.com/archives/9207

[Lena]

Da keinerlei konkrete Quellen genannt sind, gut möglich das die Meldung nur Tabloid ist.

Laut Radar plant AEG evtl. jemand von Staatsanwaltteam vom Murray-Strafporzess Walgran oder Brazil in den Zeugenstand zu berufen um Murrays Rolle bei Michaels Tod zu erläutern und das niemand wissen konnte wie Murray MJ behandelte.

Revealed: Concert Promoter AEG Considering Call To DA Who Landed Conviction Against Michael Jackson’s Death Doc

Lawyers for AEG are considering calling one of the district attorneys that successfully prosecuted Conrad Murray as possible witnesses in the wrongful death trial of Michael Jackson, RadarOnline.com is exclusively reporting.

Katherine Jackson is suing the concert promoter alleging that AEG failed to properly investigate and supervise Michael’s one-time doctor, Murray. Murray was convicted two years ago for the involuntary manslaughter death of the King of Pop.

The concert promoter “doesn’t want to put Conrad Murray on the stand for several reasons. First, Murray is a sanctimonious and arrogant, he will make the testimony all about him. He would likely be unwilling to answer the most important questions, and invoke the fifth amendment because he is appealing the conviction,” a source told Radar.

“Secondly, Murray would use the appearance to possibly promote a book/overseas tabloid interview he is planning upon his release from jail.”

The source added, “For those reasons, and more, AEG lawyer, Marvin Putnam, has been in contact with former Los Angeles County District Attorney, David Walgren, who is now a judge, and current prosecutor, Deborah Brazil, whom both handled Murray’s case.

“Both are agreeable to appearing and testifying. AEG needs to present a witness to the jury that can explain Murray’s role in Michael’s death. It’s AEG’s position that no one could have known that Murray was giving Michael a Propofol at night to sleep.”

The decision will be made “in the next several days about if one or both of them (Walgren/Brazil), will be called to testify,” the insider revealed.

“They would both be very compelling witnesses for AEG and the jury would be very impressed with their knowledge and professionalism of the criminal case.”
http://radaronline.com/exclusives/20...conrad-murray/

[Lena]

Ich stell das mal hier ein. Das sind Auszüge von Debbies Rowe Aussage bei der Llods-Klage (die Aussage darf ja auch bei der AEG-Klage verwendet werden).
Sicherlich ein Hinweis darauf was in Debbies anstehender Aussage kommen wird.

From Partial Lloyds deposition

- Debbie worked at Klein's office between 1978 - 1997
Debbie arbeitet in Kleins Praxis zwischen 1978 bis 1997


- She was an office assistant but learned to make injections - most common cortisone injections.
Sie war Bürokauffrau aber erlernte Injentkionen zu machen- am häufigsten Kortisoninjektionen

- Injected Demerol to MJ on Klein's orders.
Injezierte Demorol auf Kleins Anweisungen

- Debbie was present at Bad Tour with Klein. Klein made his assistants inject Michael Demerol (100 mg ) when he injected collagen.
Debbie war präsent auf der Bad Tour mit Klein. Klein ließ seine Assistenten Demorol (100mg) bei Michael injezieren als er Collagen injezierte.

- Question : you said to media Klein got MJ addicted to Demerol. DR : He did Question:Why do you believe that DR : I know that.
Frage: Sie sagten den Medien Klein machte MJ abhänig mit Demorol?
DR: Er tat es.
Q: Warum glauben Sie das?
DR: Ich weiß es.

- Debbie Rowe : "Klein was above all that. Klein did what Klein wanted to do"
Debbie Rowe: "Klein war über allem. Klein machte was Klein wollte"

- Debbie Rowe worked with Alan Metzger after the Bad tour to get Michael off Demerol. (timing unclear see below) Debbie says Michael was visiting Hoefflin and Klein a lot and the doctors were sending her to babysit Michael after they gave him drugs.
Debbie Rowe arbeitete mit Alan Metzger nach der Bad Tour um Michael vom Demorol wegzubekommen. Debbie sagt Michael besuchte Hoefflin und Klein viel und Ärzte schickten sie zum Babysitten von Michael, wenn sie Michael Medikamente gaben.

- Debbie says Hoefflin gave Demerol, Versed and Diprivan (Propofol) and sometimes would put Michael under and say he did work on him when he did not. (She says she saw both Klein and Hoefflin's treatments) She says Hoefflins treatments were after Bad and before History tour. she says he would put Michael under for 6-7 hours. She saw this 3 times. She says she learned from Michael and Klein that he went to Hoefflin's office 2-3 times a month.

- Debbie sagt Hoefflin gab Demerol, Versed und Diprivan (Propofol) und manchmal würde er Michael darunter setzen und sagen er mache etwas an ihm, obwohl er es nicht tat. (Sie sagt, sie sah sowohl Klein und Hoefflins Behandlungen) Sie sagt Hoefflins Behandlungen waren nach Bad und vor der History Tour. Sie sagt, er würde Michael legte für 6-7 Stunden beäuben. Sie sah dies 3 mal. Sie sagte, sie erfuhr von Michael das er Klein und dass er Hoefflin Praxis 2-3 mal pro Monat besuchte


- Debbie says Metzger was the one doctor that cared about Michael and she called him after three incidents over three months. One was at Universal Hilton incident and Two times at Century City. At one time (Universal Hilton) he was loopy and with slurred speech, Debbie goes to the hotel and found Dilaudid given to Michael by Hoefflin for his scalp issues. She calls Klein and tells him Michael took too many and asks him what he wants her to do, take him to hospital. Klein says to her stay there and keep and eye on him. She stays with Michael for 2 days. Second one Michael calls her and he was rambling and she went to his house at Century City. (Partial deposition cuts here)
- Debbie sagt Metzger war derjenige Arzt, der sich um Michael kümmerte und sie rief ihn nach drei Vorfälle über drei Monate. Ein Vorfall war bei Universal Hilton und zwei in Century City. Zu einer Zeit (Universal Hilton) hatte er eine durchgeknallte und verwaschene Sprache, Debbie ging zum Hotel und fand Dilaudid, dass ihm gegeben von Hoefflin für seine Kopfhaut -Probleme. Sie ruft Klein und sagt ihm, Michael nahm zu viel und fragt ihn, was sie tun soll, nimm ihn in ein Krankenhaus. Klein sagt ihr sie solle bei ihm bleiben und ihn im Auge haben. Sie sagt Michael blieb für 2 Tage. Beim 2. Mal rief Michael sie und er war unruhig und sie ging zu seinem Haus in Century City. (teilweise Auszüge aus der Deposition hier)

- It sounds like Debbie gave copies of MJ's records to Metzger so he knows what's going on.
- Es klingt so, dass Debbie Kopien von MJs Akten an Metzger gab, damit er weiß was los ist.

- Intervention with Metzger: Timing isn't clear. At one part she says it was after Bad tour sometime 1989 - 1990, at another time she says it was before Bangkok part of the tour (which I mean is referencing Dangerous tour). At the later part it sounds more like 1993 and sometime between Super Bowl / Rose Bowl halftime and Bangkok. Between January 1993 and August 1993 is mentioned as Metzger intervention later on.
- Intervention mit Metzger: Timing ist nicht klar. An einem Teil sagt sie es nach der Bad Tour irgendwann 1989 - 1990, zu einer anderen Zeit, sagt sie, es war vor Bangkok- Teil der Tour (und damit meine ich verweist sie auf die Dangerous Tour). Beim späteren Teil klingt es eher wie 1993 und irgendwann zwischen Super Bowl / Rose Bowl Halbzeit und Bangkok. Zwischen Januar 1993 und August 1993 wird Metzger bei Intervention erwähnt.

- She says Metzger told her what to do to get Michael off Demerol, patches they used and other medications. she stayed with Michael every night for 3 weeks doing what Metzger told her. One day she comes and Michael has left for Bangkok. Their treatment wasn't finished. Debbie was told to meet with a doctor and give the doctor the schedule to be followed with the detox. Debbie was worried they would not follow the detox program and Metzger told her there's nothing they could do. She later says Michael had a relapse in Bangkok.

- Sie sagt Metzger erzählte ihr, was zu tun ist, um Michael vom Demerol weg zu bekommen, sie verwendeten Pflaster und andere Medikamente. sie blieb bei Michael jeden Abend für 3 Wochen wie es ihr Metzger gesagt hat. Eines Tages kommt sie und Michael hat Bangkok verlassen. Ihre Behandlung war noch nicht fertig. Debbie wurde gesagt, dass sie sich mit einem Arzt treffen soll und gibt dem Arzt den Zeitplan mit der Entgiftung . Debbie war besorgt, sie würden sich nicht an das Detox-Programm halten und Metzger sagte ihr, es gibt nichts, was sie tun können. Später sagt sie Michael hatte einen Rückfall in Bangkok.

- While they are doing the intervention with Metzger, Michael mentions anesthesia and being put out for a certain amount of time so he didn't have to go through withdrawals. They say no.
- Während sie dabei Intervention mit Metzger machte, erwähnt Michael Anästhesia und das für eine gewisse Zeit darunter gesetzt werden könne, damit er nicht durch die Entzugserscheinungen gehen muss. Sie sagen nein.

- History tour anesthesia are at :Lyon France, Paris France and Munich Germany - at hotels (Lyon and Munich and at an apartment (Paris). (this is the only times Debbie saw anesthesia for sleep). She talks to Michael he says he needs to sleep, she tells him it's not a good idea. Doctors explain anesthesia to MJ with warnings and saying it's not recommended. Debbie says to Michael "You could die, this is a little rash". Michael tells her he would be fine. Debbie thinks it's because he had anesthesia many times before so he did not consider it a problem.
- History Tour -Narkosen sind:.. Lyon Frankreich, Paris Frankreich und München Deutschland - in den Hotels (Lyon und München und in einer Wohnung (Paris) (dies ist das einzige Mal das Debbie Anästhesie für den Schlaf sah). Sie spricht mit Michael und er sagt er müsse schlafen, sie erzählt ihm, dass es nicht eine gute Idee ist. Ärzte erklären Anästhesie für MJ mit Warnungen und sagen es ist nicht empfohlen. Debbie sagt Michael "Du könntest sterben" Michael sagt ihr, er wäre in Ordnung. Debbie denkt, es ist, weil er Anästhesie so oft hatte vor, so dass er es nicht für ein Problem hielt.


- Time unclear but Debbie mentions Michael going to Klein, Hoefflin and Sasaki at the same time and she went with him to keep track of medications.

- Zeit unklar, aber Debbie erwähnt dass Michael zu Klein, Hoefflin und Sasaki in der gleichen Zeit ging und sie ging mit ihm um den Überblick über Medikamente zu halten.

- Debbie doesn't have much info after stop working Klein's office and divorcing.
- Debbie hat nicht viel info nachdem sie nicht mehr für Kleins Praxis arbeitete und nach der Scheidung.

- Debbie says Rish (Klein's partner) called her in 2009 after Michael's death complaining about Klein giving Michael too much Demerol and seeing him quite often.
- Debbie sagt Rish (Kleins-Partner)rief sie im Jahr 2009 nach dem Tod von Michael an und sagte Klein gab Michael zu viel Demerol und sah ihn ziemlich oft.

Quelle: Ivy, MJJC

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Jacksons vs AEG - Day 58 – July 29 2013 – Summary

No Jackson family member was in court.


Eric Briggs Testimony


AEG direct


Strong asked about Briggs opinion on the completion of the 50 shows agreed by Michael Jackson at the time of his death. The expert said it was speculative to assume MJ would complete all 50 shows in London. A slide shown to the jury relates to a world tour that would be speculative, Briggs said. (ABC7)

Slide: Erk's TII Tour: Speculative 1- No agreement beyond 50 shows 2- MJ's drug use 3- MJ's history if cancellations 4- World tour depends on completion of 50 shows a- Performance Risk b- Execution Risk

However, Briggs said numbers 1 and 2 also relates to the 50 shows in London. Briggs said MJ's history and manner of drug use and lasting affects are supporting basis for opinion that 50 shows were speculative. “MJ had a significant history of canceling projects, even if they were reasonably sure to happen," Briggs said. (ABC7)

Briggs said he evaluated Mr. Erk's numbers regarding the 260 shows. Jacksons atty Brian Panish asked for sidebar. It lasted 23 minutes. (ABC7)

Brigg’s opinion is that it’s speculative to assume that Jackson would have completed the 50 “This Is It” shows. He also thinks it’s speculative that Jackson would have performed a 260 show world tour, as plaintiff’s expert Arthur Erk projected. Briggs told the jury two main points for his opinion are Jackson’s history of canceling shows and his prescription drug usage. (AP)

Regarding the 260 shows Erk calculated, Briggs said the expert's projection was unprecedented for gross ticket sales and revenue perspective . Briggs said the highest grossing tour ever is U2 360 Show, which generated $736 million in ticket sales and merchandise. (ABC7) Erk had estimated Jackson would earn more than $1 billion on touring, merchandise and endorsement deals if he had lived. Briggs however said Erk’s estimates were out of line with Jackson’s history, and the history of other successful tours. (AP)

Tour Gross Revenues: Tickets/Merchandise 1- U2: $736 million 2- Rolling Stones: $558 million 3- AC/DC: $441 million 4- Madonna: $408 million

Briggs said what's actually received by the artist is much smaller that the gross number and it is based on the expenses of the tour. If the production is expensive, Briggs said the net to AC/DC members could be higher than the net to U2 members, even though U2 grossed more. (ABC7)

MJ's Highest Grossing Tours: HISTORY generated $165 million for 82 dates in 1996-97 BAD generated $126 million for 120 shows . Briggs said the Dangerous tour was not included because it was not reflected in the list of highest grossing tours of all times. Dangerous tour was cut short due because MJ entered rehab, Briggs explained. (ABC7)

Although one of Briggs’ charts wasn’t shown to the jury, he did see one showing revenues of the top 4 highest-grossing concert tours ever. U2’s 360 tour tops the list with $736 million in ticket sales and merchandise, although Briggs says that’s not how much the band made. The Rolling Stones and AC/DC are the #2 and #3 on the list, with Madonna ranking as the top-grossing solo artist at $408 million. Those are gross figures, and Briggs says it’s not clear how much each artist took home from their tours. He contrasted that with Jackson’s HIStory tour, which grossed $165 million, and the Bad tour, which grossed $126 million. The Dangerous tour didn’t make the list because it was cut short. Briggs would later show a chart showing it lost money. (AP)

For the “This Is It” shows, AEG Live projected gross ticket sales of between $94 and $107 million. (AP) AEG's Predicted Future Tours: Prod 1: $94 million Prod 2: $107 million (ABC7)

Strong asked Briggs how AEG's 2009 Budget compare. Erk projected $1.65 billion for 260 shows tour, he answered. "Clearly this is in excess of anything we've ever seen in the history around the world," Briggs opined. Briggs said Mr. Erk was projecting $900 million to be paid to MJ as net for tickets, endorsements and merchandising. Based on the record, this amount was nowhere near what MJ had brought home in the past, Briggs testified. Briggs said Paul Gongaware testified MJ's Dangerous tour lost money, it was not profitable. He also testified HIStory tour was a break even. Net is the value of tickets and merchandising minus all the costs to put on the show, Briggs explained. Regarding the HIStory tour, Briggs said, based on Gongaware's testimony, there must have been costs that made the tour break even. "What's implied is that MJ did not generate any significant net from this tour," Briggs said. (ABC7)

Plaintiff’s expert Arthur Erk projected as more than $1 billion in revenue for Jackson from ticket sales and merchandise on a world tour. Briggs: “Clearly this figure is in excess of what we’ve seen in the history of the world.” He then showed a slide depicting Jackson’s proceeds from previous tours. HIStory broke even, he said, and Dangerous lost money. (AP)

Briggs testified that AEG's budget shows that MJ, if he completed all 50 show shows, would've taken home between $22 and $31 million. This amount included tickets and merchandising, but not endorsement, Briggs said. Briggs: As Jun 2009, no endorsement was in place, no sponsorhip was in place. AEG Live had taken steps to secure them but none were in place (ABC7) Michael Jackson would have earned between $22-$30 million for the “This Is It” shows, if he completed the 50 concerts in London. (AP)

Briggs spent several minutes telling the jury that Erk’s figures were speculative and weren’t rooted in history. (AP) Briggs said Erk projected MJ would net $890 million from a 260 world tour shows between tickets, merchandising, endorsements and sponsorship. "I don't know how anyone can be reasonably certain this would occur," Briggs said. The highest grossing tour of all times was U2's 360, Briggs said, which was $736 million. Erk's projection for MJ to net was way above that. "It's completely out of line of with history, with MJ's own history and history of all other tours," Briggs opined. (ABC7)

If there's no tour, there's no merchandise, the expert said. Briggs' experience with endorsement relates to working with the estate of major artists, like Elvis and Frank Sinatra. They were approached many times by large companied to put their names on products to sell. (ABC7)

Briggs explained the industry uses a "Q" score data, which draws the likability of a celebrity or persona. Briggs said there are two major types of factors that companies take into consideration to select artist to endorse: 1- history in securing endorsement, relationship with previous sponsors 2- how predictable the artist is, how stable his/her actions are. "Companies are looking for safe bets," Briggs said. "They don't want to take big risks with their products." Briggs explained the companies are concerned about what general public thinks of the artist/celebrity. Briggs: The tour gross relates to people being interests in seeing someone perform. MJ was a great performer. But there's a difference between excellence as performance of stage and whether the company wants to align itself w/ performer, Briggs said. Briggs said the "Q" score data associated with MJ analyzed his albums' sales, actions taken by AEG, and MJ's stability and predictability. Briggs explained data companies calls people and ask how much they like a certain artist, their "Q" score. They then report the results back to the brand company to decide how safe a bet an artist is. Briggs received two sets of data: MJ likability MJ comparative group (Bruce Springsteen, Elton John, Justin Timberlake). Judge wanted to know what kind of questions the company asks people in the survey. Briggs said the question is about the person's impression of the artist, with normally 3-5 choices for answer. The questions are not as much if a person would buy a product, but their impression of the artist, Briggs explained. "Q" score survey: Question: What's your general impression of individual/celebrity? Answers: One of my Favorites, Very Good, Good, Fair/Poor. Briggs said it's useful to look at comparison w/ other artists, how they stack up against others that are similar to the artist in question. Briggs said there's data for "Q" score from 1990 to 2006, with some gaps. There's no "Q" score data between 2006 and 2009. (ABC7)

AEG defense attorney Sabrina Strong asked about Jackson’s prospects for an endorsement deal, which led Briggs into a discussion of Q Scores. Q Scores weigh the broad likeability of an artist based on a survey. Companies use the data to determine their celebrity spokespeople. Briggs: “Companies are looking for safe bets.” He uses Q Scores in his work advising clients and pulled data on Jackson from 1990-2006. There were several years of Q Scores missing for Jackson, and no surveys of his likability were taken after 2006. The judge was interested in how Q Score data is obtained, so Briggs explained it in further detail. Respondents are asked to rank celebrities in one of four likability categories: “One of my favorites” Very good. Good Fair/ poor. ackson’s scores generally declined after 1993, although there were some years in the early 2000s that his scores improved. By 2006, the last year Jackson’s Q Score was evaluated, he had a -7.4 rating. It had declined a lot from 2003 on. The rating means there were 7 times more people who responded unfavorably to Jackson than those who answered he was one of their favorites. Artists are rated against contemporaries. Briggs said in 1990, MJ was groups with MC Hammer, Billy Joel, Don Henley and Kenny Rogers. He didn’t explain who Jackson was grouped with on the survey in the 2000s, although Justin Timberlake was name as a possibility. (AP)

Strong showed a chart of MJ's "Likability," which Declined After 1993. The chart shows a Negative-Positive Impression. Briggs said that in 2006, there was 1 (one) person with positive impression for every 7.4 people with negative impression of MJ. Briggs said in 1993, MJ's likability was pretty well in line with other artists. From that point, it declined substantially. In 2006, Briggs said the chart shows that there were 7.4 negative impressions for 1 positive regarding Michael Jackson. Briggs explained that in 1993 there was a start of some significantly negative headlines associated with MJ, his drug abuse and other issues . There's no data available from 2006 to 2009. Briggs said he requested the data but was unable to get it. He said if someone's likability is so negative, they take those people off the list, since no company would want to align itself with them. (ABC7)

Briggs testified that he studied "Q score" data for Jackson, the trend of his album sales and his stability to conclude that Jackson had a low chance of earning money from endorsements and sponsorships. Briggs said that while Jackson was "a great performer" companies decide which celebrities to align their products with based on "likability" as measured by "Q scores." Jackson's "Q score" in 1993 was in line with the average male musical performer, with about one person of every two surveyed saying they liked him, Briggs said. That was the year Jackson announced he had a problem with painkillers, and he entered rehab.His score became dramatically negative over the next decade, Briggs said. By 2006, a year after he was acquitted in a child molestation trial, more than seven people said they disliked Jackson for every one who said they liked him, Briggs testified. Companies would be "very anxious" about putting someone with such negative "likability" next to their products, he said. (CNN)

"Brand companies appreciate artists can be great performers, but that doesn't mean they want to put their names next to the performers," Briggs said. According to him, Jackson's image rebounded somewhat in the 1990s, but it plummeted again in 2003 for several reasonss. For big-name labels, Jackson was a risk, because new scandals could emerge without warning, Briggs explained, and "brands are looking for predictability." (AFP)

Judge asked Briggs if MJ could've been compared to an individual artist, such as Justin Timberlake, as opposed to a group of similar artists. He said the norm is to compare with the average of the group with the artist in question. (ABC7)

Negative headlines about drugs and sex abuse charges greatly diminished Michael Jackson's earning potential, an entertainment
consultant said. Jackson's album sales dropped sharply from his peak and his "likability" rating turned dramatically negative after "significantly negative headlines, drug abuse and other issues," Eric Briggs testified. (CNN)

Briggs said Mr. Erk specified album unit sales for five of MJ's albums. "It also showed a significant decline," Briggs said. MJ's albums sale: 1982 -- Thriller -- 65 million 1987 -- Bad -- 45 million 1991 -- Dangerous -- 32 million 1995 -- HIStory -- 20 million 2001 -- Invincible -- 13 million (ABC7)

Briggs testified MJ had a significant issue in the media related to negative headlines in a broad of topics. That would impact a company's decision on endorsements/sponsorship. Companies are focused on selling, Briggs said. The expert explained there was a significant audience that wanted to see MJ perform. (ABC7)

He said AEG took steps to secure endorsements and sponsorships but was unable to do so. "I don't know how he can predict that all of the sudden the light switch would be turned on" Briggs said about Erk's endorsement projection. The expert said there were no endorsement or sponsorship deals at the time of MJ's death. (ABC7)

Briggs moved on to discussions of album sales, which declined over Jackson’s career, and he attacked the premise of a Vegas tribute show. Tribute shows only work if the artist is dead, Briggs said. He said Erk’s projections for a tribute show were also speculative. (AP)

Strong asked why Las Vegas deal was speculative. Briggs said there was nothing in the works, no budget, agreement or financing. Beyond that, there's no real precedent for living, touring artist, who has a tribute show. Briggs testified there aren't any meaningful, premium-type of show, associated with a living performing artist. (ABC7)

"In my business, just expressing interest it doesn't mean it's going to happen," the expert opined. He said they were ideas and he sees ideas thrown around all the time. Briggs: Las Vegas is a very competitive market. Every hotel wants a show that appeals to a broad audience. "It's hard to make big bets if there are high questions about likability and predictability." "Entertainment is about finding an audience," Briggs said. "No one can predict if it will be successful until you sell the tickets." Briggs said his understanding is that MJ's Estate did not agree to AEG's proposed Las Vegas tour. (ABC7)

Lastly, he discussed films and whether Jackson was assured of success in the film industry. His opinion was that MJ wasn’t assured success. (AP)

Briggs said in Erk's projection, MJ would go into movies, but he did not provide figures in this regard. Briggs' "Film Production Process": - Ideas - Development/Packaging - Financing - Pre-production planning – Production - Post production - Advertising - Distribution - Theatrical release - Profits? . Briggs said there were efforts taking place at one point for MJ to make movies. He considers it to be in the development phase. "It absolutely does not mean it would be getting to the end of the process," Briggs opined. Briggs said the decision to make films is multimillion dollar one. The commitment is very serious, you can't make movie w/ a million dollars. "A movie can be hundreds of millions of dollars," Briggs said. And a lot needs to be in place, like audience, distributors, etc. He said just advertising a movie in the US can be 50+ million dollars. Briggs said the last feature film MJ was associated w/ "Miss Cast Away," released in 2004-05 and it went straight to video, not in theaters. Briggs said that even at the distribution phase, it doesn't mean film will be profitable/successful. "It's all a risk up until this point." Only after 3-6 weeks in the theater it's possible to figure out if the movie is profitable or not, Briggs said. Briggs named some big films that have been disappointments: John Carter, Battleship, Jack the Giant Killer. Briggs: These movies had big actors, big dollars, big movie studios and big decision process that can't always be right. Each studio releases 15-20 films/year, Briggs said, and only about half of them are known to the public. "Just because you make something it doesn't mean it will go on to critical success," Briggs said. (ABC7)

Briggs: Mr. Erk simply stated he believed Michael would do movies. Briggs said there were periods of times where MJ would have great connections in the movie industry, then fire them only to hired them back. Great connections do not equate that things will get done, let alone be successful," Briggs testified. Briggs: "Not everything that's attempted is a resounding success." Regarding MJ's personal history with respect to feature films, Briggs was emphatic: "I do not believe MJ was successful," the expert said. "Even Mr. Erk said he was not successful in movies," Briggs said. Briggs: I don't know how anyone can project, with reasonable certainty, that MJ would be successful at making movies. (ABC7)

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Court broke for the day, and there were brief arguments by plaintiff’s attorney Brian Panish about Briggs’ billing records. Panish wants detailed records of the work Briggs has done on the AEG case and said the expert’s firm has been paid $600-$700k so far. Panish said he also wants to know what other work Briggs has done for AEG Live so he can address his “bias” on cross-examination. (AP)

Rebbie Jackson was to testify on Wednesday but is sick. Other witnesses expected this week: Debbie Rowe and Randy Jackson via video depo. (ABC7)

Zusammenfassung von Ivy, MJJC #61

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Zusammenfassungen der vorangegangenen gerichtstage:
Day 1 - 50
Day 51 - zeuge Dr. Emery Brown Video Deposition; zeuge Peter Formuzis
Day 52 - zeugin Katherine Jackson
Day 53 - forts. zeugin K. Jackson; AEG-zeuge John Meglen
Day 54 - forts. AEG-zeuge Meglen
Day 55 - zeugen J. Meglen; Dr. Alimorad Farshchian Video Deposition
Day 56 - zeuge David Fournier
Day 57 - zeugen Dr. Scott Saunders per video depo.; Eric Briggs

Exklusiv transcripts eröffnungsstatements u.a. (MJJC #1 ff.)
Zeugenaussage von Prince Michael Jackson Jr.; exklusiv transcripts von MJJC # 7
Deposition transcripts filed with the court.
Note : these are not the full depositions, they are only the portions played in the court.
Dr. Stuart Finkelstein Deposition video transcript
Dr. Earley Deposition video transcript
Tim Leiweke Deposition video transcript
Randy Phillips Deposition video transcript
Quelle Ivy, MJJC #50

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Jacksons vs AEG - Day 57 – July 26 2013 – Summary

(source : ABC7 unless otherwise indicated)


Dr. Scott Saunders video deposition

Attorney Adam Hunt did the questioning.

Dr. Scott Saunders graduated in 1997 from Brigham Young University, attended medical school at UCLA. Currently, Dr. Saunders works at Buellton Medical Center with Dr. Barnie Van Valin. There's also Dr. Debra Weinstein, who worked at Santa Inez Valley Cottage Hospital.

Dr. Saunders writes a blog entitles "The Love Triangle." Published on Saturday, Sept. 10, 2011: "I had a friend, Michael Jackson, who was very lonely because he didn't love. There were very few people he could trust and love."

Hunt asked how they became friends. Dr. Saunders said MJ invited him to his ranch. He didn't remember when but it was less than 15 years ago

Hunt: Did MJ ever come to you for medical treatement?
Dr. Saunders: Yes
H: For what?
Dr. S: I don't recall

He also didn't recall when MJ went to see him. Dr. Saunders worked at the Buellton Medical Center from 1998 to 2003, saw MJ within that time. Dr. Saunders: I received a phone call from a woman who declined to identify herself and asked if I would be willing to make a house call. "And I said yes and she gave me the address," the doctor said.Hunt: Did you treat MJ that day? Dr. Saunders: Yes. "He had an upper respiratory infection," Dr. Saunders said. Dr. Saunders said he drove to Neverland, there was a kiosk at the entrance of the house, he pushed the button, followed a car to a house. Someone let him in, he waited at the entrance for about half an hour. Dr. Saunders: Someone, a man, came when I was ready to leave. Dr. Saunders: He and took me in to a bedroom. There was a guy lying on the bed, he said 'I am Michael Jackson.' Dr. Saunders: I said nice to meet you, Mr. Jackson. And he said 'I'm sick.' Dr. Saunders did not recognized the man on the bed as MJ. He said the room was dark. There was a keypad that the man pushed a series of buttons and the door opened, the doctor testified.

Dr. Saunders works with Dr. Van Valin, but has not spoken to him about MJ's treatment. He saw MJ and Dr. Van Valin together. "We were all at a gathering at MJ's ranch, we watched a movie in his theater," Dr. Saunders said. He thinks it was Spiderman movie.

There were other times Dr. Saunders treated MJ, but he doesn't know how many. He said it's around 10 times, probably less than 25 times.
Hunt: What other medical conditions you treated him for?
Dr. Saunders: pain, that's all I remember

Dr.Saunders gave MJ pain medication for his pain. He doesn't recall which drugs.

Hunt: Do you recall giving Mr. Jackson Demerol?
Dr. Saunders: I don't recall

The doctor said he recalls using buprenorphine (buprenex) in injectable form. It is in the same class as an opiate medication.

Hunt: Do you know if he did receive other opiate medications from anyone?
Dr. Saunders: Yes
H: How do you know?
Dr. S: He told me

MJ told the doctor he wanted to get off pain medications.

Dr. Saunders: He said 'I don't want to end up like my father-in-law'
Hunt: Who was his father in law?
Dr. Saunders: Elvis Presley

Dr. Saunders said he gave MJ buprenorphine because it is an opiate agonist-antagonist, used to treat pain but tends to be less addictive.
Hunt: Did Michael Jackson ask you specifically for buprenorphine?
Dr. Saunders: Yes
Hunt: Do patients typically ask for specific medication?
Dr. Saunders: People who take pain medications know what works for them, so yes
Hunt: Did Michael ever tell you about getting an implant to help address his addiction to pain medication?
Dr. Saunders: No

Dr Saunders said he never heard the name Dr. Fashchian and that MJ never told him about any other doctor going to Neverland and treating him. The doctor said he gave pain medication to MJ. He had been to the ER with the artist at Santa Inez Cottage Hospital. He doesn't recall when.
Hunt: Why did you go?
Dr. Saunders: He called me because he had fallen I think on the stairs and had a foot problem.
Dr. Saunders: I think it was a foot problem, I went to see him, evaluated him, it appeared swollen, I recommended X-ray, took him in my car. "I helped him in," Dr. Saunders said about their arrival to the emergency room because MJ was having trouble walking. "I don't believe I stayed there. I probably went home to my family," Dr. Saunders testified. Dr. Saunders doesn't recall if he gave any pain medication to MJ before going to the ER.

Dr. Saunders said he was friends with Michael Jackson. They talked about everything. "He was rather lonely and didn't have anyone he could trust," Dr. Saunders said. "He would call me and I would go over." Dr. Saunders: Sometimes we would drive around the ranch in his Navigator and talk, would sit at the video library and talk, or in an office. "And sometimes I'd be saying 'you know I really got to go home to my family' and 'No, no Saunders, just stay a little while' the doctor said. Dr. Saunders: He said he had a very difficult childhood, because he was never allowed to be a child. MJ never talked about his father, Joe Jackson, and how he treated him. MJ went to Dr. Saunders house in Solvang, met his wife and children. "He just showed up," Dr. Saunders said. "The driver took him there, he knocked on the door." One time MJ's kids were present and they wanted to go outside in the sandbox. Dr. Saunders said this was the same time he saw MJ socially. Saunders: He sent box to my house for Xmas. I don't recall what was in the box. I think my children got aPS2. But whatever else don't know. Hunt: The presents were for the family? Dr. Saunders: Yes. "He left a popcorn popper, like the ones at carnivals, on the stand," Dr. Saunders said. Hunt: Do you have it? Dr. Saunders: No, I sold it at a garage sale

Saunders said he and Jackson eventually became friends. “He was rather lonely and didn’t have anyone he could trust,” Saunders testified. And so he would call me and I would go over." When Saunders would tell Jackson he had to go home to his family, the singer would try to persuade him to stay, the doctor said.The doctor said Jackson told him “he had a very difficult childhood” and had never had an opportunity to be a child, though he did recount “running around hotels with Donny Osmond, that kind of thing.” Jackson and his children would show up unannounced at the doctor's house in Solvang, Saunders testified. A driver would bring him, he said, and Jackson would just knock on the door."Were you surprised when he got there," Saunders was asked. Yes," he replied. (LATimes)
The doctor said he doesn't know anything MJ did to protect his medical privacy.

Hunt: What medication was he on?
Dr. Saunders: The only two I knew of where Demerol and Morphine.
Dr. Saunders: and I think I gave him oral pain medicaiton, don't know which, Vicodin type of thing.
Dr. Saunders said MJ wanted to get off of Demerol. "He asked to use beprenorphine instead," Dr. Saunders said. Dr. Saunders said he doesn't know if MJ's attempt to quit Demerol was successful. The doctor never went with him outside California.

"One time he was telling me about going to Las Vegas, how much he liked Las Vegas, buying things," Dr. Saunders testified. "He would go to the stores and say I want that, and that, antiques. He was really into antiques," Dr. Saunders recalled. "He said he knew them all, he knew which ones were his," Dr. Saunders said. The house of full of everything including antiques.

Hunt: Were you compensated when you provided treatment to MJ?
Dr. Saunders: I never asked for compensation and he would pay cash.
Dr. Saunders: He would always pay in cash because he didn't have no credit, no checks, no bank account.
Hunt: How do you know?
Dr. Saunders: He told me. I said I'd send bill he said you can't, I don't have any checks or credit cards or anything

Medical record from Feb 24, 2001 from Santa Inez Valley Cottage Hospital saying male who fell down the stairs a couple of days ago. Document says "his primary care physician is Scott Saunders." The doctor said he thinks it's because he brought MJ there. Emergency Department Course: "Given his inability to take oral pain medication without extreme nausea we have worked out with Dr. Saunders to dispense Demerol and Phenergan IM with some needles and syringes. I have specifically stated a medical care professional, a physician or nurse, must administer this medication should he need it. He is well aware of this, and in fact, Dr. Saunders has agreed to go by the home to administer the medication if needed." Another section of the medical record: "We have dispensed the Demerol and Phenergan IM with needles and syringes. He is well aware that a physician or nurse must administer this and he will be calling Dr. Saunders tonight. "Disposition: Discharged to home. Follow up with Dr. Saunders some time next week."

Dr Saunders said this medical record did not refresh his recollection and doesn't recall anything about it and/or speaking with Dr Weinstein. The doctor said the ER doctors treat the initial emergency and then send the patient to their doctor for follow up.

Medical record from 02/25/2001 -- Emergency Department Report "History if Present Illness: This is a 30-something-year-old gentleman who has been here twice before, actually, earlier this evening although it is now the next day, but he has been seen twice. He has an avulsion of the proximal navicular of the foot and has required copious amounts of pain medication who returns again in severe pain, no further trauma, no paresthesias and states that he Demerol which we gave on him last visit has worn off and he feels the pain escalating." Private Physician: Currently Dr. Scott Saunders Allergies: None

Hunt: Have you heard of MJ requiring copious amounts of pain medication before?
Dr. Saunders: I have never heard that word used, no
Dr. Saunders said he's listed as primary doctor because he brought MJ to ER or because the patient said 'this is my doctor.'
Dr. Saunders said he never determined the underlying cause of MJ's addiction to painkillers and that MJ never told him anything about it.

Medical report from 2/26/2001:
History of Present Illness: The patient is here because he had a fractured cuboid on his right foot. He has been seen multiple times for pain medication injections. He receives Demerol 200 mg and 50 mg of Vistaril each time. Today, he was casted by Dr. Scott Saunders and is feeling somewhat better but is having some pain in his foot. At this point, it feels better in the cast.

Medical report from 12/14/2001: The patient is a 41-year-old black male who was brought in by Dr. Scott Saunders from the patient's home. Prior to his arrival, Dr. Saunders had called me saying the patient had an injection of Demerol 200 mg and Phenergan 50 mg which he has had on a number of occasions in the past and did well. "Dr. Saunders had told me upon arrival to the emergency room that he obtained further information that the patient had another pain injection at sometime prior to Dr. Saunders' arrival that Dr. Saunders was not aware of. The patient only told him this after his reaction had occurred."

Hunt: Do you know if MJ was ever able to stop taking large amounts of Demerol?
Dr. Saunders: I don't know

Dr. Saunders does not know if MJ continued to receive Demerol injections after he stopped treating him in 2003.

The doctor doesn't have any idea who the other doctor was that gave MJ injection of pain medication on the same day.
Hunt: Does it bother you that MJ got or may have gotten a shot of Demerol by another physician without telling you?
Dr Saunders: Generally yes, that's a bothersome thing. Because the potential reaction or problems associated with Demerol are dose dependent So as you increase the dose, the potential for doing harm is increased. So if I am going out to give Demerol injection because of his broken foot, and meanwhile, some other doctor's going out there and giving him Demerol injections and it's too much too close together, he could have a bad reaction.

Medical record: "He has a med-alert bracelet saying he is allergic to Demerol." "When questioned, he says he had has Demerol many times in the past. Indeed, I administered Demerol to him at one time. He tells me this because he does not want to be 'given too much Demerol.' He has no specific reaction to Demerol itself. He tells me he has also tolerated Phenergan on numerous occasions in the past without difficulty."

Dr. Saunders said you wear med-alert if there's some reason you're likely to be found unconscious and not able to tell your allergies.
Hunt: And can high dosage of Demerol cause unconsciousness?
Dr. Saunders: Yes


Eric Briggs Testimony

AEG Direct

AEG attorney Sabrina Strong did the direct examination. Briggs is an expert witness in this case. He was asked to assess the projections of Arthur Erk, plaintiffs' retained expert.

Briggs studies Economy at Brown University and received his MBA at Anderson School at UCLA. Briggs is a senior management director at FTI Consulting and professor at USC Marshall School of Business. Briggs said he helps a media company put together forecast and assess risks of projects. Entertainment and media projects: looked at films, music, touring, video games, live events, pretty much everything. Briggs said he gets hired by film producers, production companies, record labels, banks and private equity that invest money. He has done work for talent agencies as well, like Creative Artist and William Morris. Other clients: Estate of Elvis Presley, John Wayne, Frank Sinatra, Bob Hope, among others. Briggs has worked in over 1100 engagements, 300 of those related to the music industry, like Rod Stewart,Bruno Mars, 50 Cent, Usher. Briggs has also worked in endorsement deals.

Strong: How many film engagements have you had over the course of your career?
Briggs: Probably 600

Briggs said some of his predictions have been inaccurate. "I don't have a crystal ball," he said. He has been doing forecast in the entertainment business for 15 years. He has testified once in an England tax matter, equivalent to our IRS, and on an arbitration case. Briggs mostly worked for companies that actively spend money in films.

FTI Consulting has about 4,000 employees worldwide. Briggs is charging $800 an hour. He has spent approximately 350 hours. Briggs has a team working on this matter, roughly 500-600 hours. Personnel on the team charge between $300-$800 per hour. Briggs said he has had significant involvement in most of the 1100 cases he worked on. "I'm not taking credit for somebody else."

Strong showed exhibit with Erk's Opinions:
- Tour
- Merchandise
- Endorsement/Sponsorship
- Las Vegas show
- Movies

Briggs said he analyzed the first four opinions by Erk, since Erk didn't project earnings for movies. Briggs did not analyze Mr. Erk's consumption numbers. Briggs overarching opinion on topics:
1- It's speculative whether these projects would occurred
2- The numbers projected are speculative

"My understanding is that damages cannot be speculative and I didn't want to prepare a speculative," Briggs said.

MJ had a prolific career which resulted in a catalogue that results in a lot of money every year. Briggs did not analyze that. He said he looked at income MJ would've generated for performing, going on tour. "My opinion relates to opinion MJ would have generated by working," Briggs said.

Strong showed an exhibit with "Erk's TII Tour: Speculative"
- No agreement beyond 50 shows
- MJ's drug use
- MJ's history of cancellations
- World tour depends on completion of 50 shows
- Performance Risk
- Execution Risk

"As of the date of death, there was no agreement that AEG or MJ would go beyond 50 shows," Briggs said. Briggs: MJ had a significant history of drug use, and this was significant to render my opinion. "There's significant testimony on the record from four medical doctors in this case regarding MJ's drug use," Briggs explained. Briggs: As part of my job, I'm asked to analyze all sorts of things, including drug use for someone who needs to perform. "It's all about the same thing: the risks," Briggs said. "My conclusion, based on the evidence presented, MJ's life expectancy was very short as of June 2009," Briggs said. "MJ was taking drugs in very dangerous ways, had history of taking drugs that had a long lasting impact on his health," he opined. Briggs: MJ had a unique history of great performance but cancellations, particularly in cases where they were practically certain to happen. The expert said MJ canceled a number of dates on Dangerous tour to enter rehab, canceled HBO special in 1995. Also, the Millennium concert didn't take place, theTwo Seas arrangement where nothing came of it. "The world tour depends on the completion of the 50 tours," Briggs said. "There's always a risk of whether the audience will perform and whether the artist will show up," Briggs testified. He said Guns N Roses, U2, Lady Gaga, Van Halen -- all cancelled shows that were pretty certain to happen. Those aspects helped shape Briggs opinion that Erk's projections were speculative.

"The four additional tours are also entirely speculative," Briggs said. They were based on Erk's personal opinion.

Briggs: MJ had agreed to do 50 shows when he died and was actively engaged in rehearsals.
Strong: Do you have an opinion on whether MJ would have completed the 50 shows at the O2?
"My opinion is that it's speculative whether the 50 shows would have been completed," Briggs said. "There was a significant heath risk in place and the length of the tour exceeded 9 months," Briggs explained.

Zusammenfassung von Ivy, MJJC #60
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Zusammenfassungen der vorangegangenen gerichtstage:
Day 1 - 50
Day 51 - zeuge Dr. Emery Brown Video Deposition; zeuge Peter Formuzis
Day 52 - zeugin Katherine Jackson
Day 53 - forts. zeugin K. Jackson; AEG-zeuge John Meglen
Day 54 - forts. AEG-zeuge Meglen
Day 55 - zeugen J. Meglen; Dr. Alimorad Farshchian Video Deposition
Day 56 - zeuge David Fournier

Exklusiv transcripts eröffnungsstatements u.a. (MJJC #1 ff.)
Zeugenaussage von Prince Michael Jackson Jr.; exklusiv transcripts von MJJC # 7
Deposition transcripts filed with the court.
Note : these are not the full depositions, they are only the portions played in the court.
Dr. Stuart Finkelstein Deposition video transcript
Dr. Earley Deposition video transcript
Tim Leiweke Deposition video transcript
Randy Phillips Deposition video transcript
Quelle Ivy, MJJC #50

[rip.michael]

Jacksons vs AEG - Day 56 – July 25 2013 – Summary

(source : ABC7 unless otherwise indicated)

Katherine Jackson is in court.

Outside the presence of the jury, Jacksons' attorney Brian Panish expressed concern about next witness. Nurse and anesthetist David Fournie had conversation with Dr. Klein and defendants want to introduce that conversation in the testimony. Fournier is performing anesthesia in MJ, there's a situation that arises, Kathryn Cahan said. 'Oh, he has a Narcan implant,' Dr. Klein allegedly told Fournier, who then directs Fournier how to treat MJ. Panish said this was in 2003. He claims it's character evidence, that MJ never disclosed it to the nurse. He also claims to be hearsay. Judge asked sides to research if the conversation would be considered exception to the hearsay rule. Bina said Fournier didn't know what to do, he asked the doctor and changed the treatment. She said MJ admitted he had an implant after. Cahan: He's administered anesthesia, MJ stopped breathing for 5 minutes, Fournier had to breath for him. Cahan: That continues until he realizes there's a reaction to Narcan implant. Panish asked what the relevance is, said defendants are trying to introduce character evidence, which has nothing to do with this case. Cahan said the relevance is that Fournier asked MJ about changes from prior treatment. Cahan: MJ knew he had a Narcan implant and chose not to disclose it. He stopped breathing for 5 minutes in the middle of the procedure. Cahan said it goes to the issues of life expectancy, addiction issue, concealment of drug use. Judge is overruling the objection since she thinks it's been offered for the truth and it's hearsay. Defendants not allowed to use it.


David Fournier (nurse anesthetist) Testimony


AEG direct

Kathryn Cahan did direct examination of David Fournier. Fournier said he's terrified of testifying today. He's testified twice before.

He is a Certified registered nurse anesthetist, trained in the specialty of anesthesia. He did Bachelor Degree in Nursing and Master's Degree in Anesthesia. There's a board exam that need to be taken, Fournier did very well. There's a number of hours of continuing education needed to maintain license. Anesthesiologist gets bachelor degree in science, then medical school. Nurse anesthetist goes 2 nursing school, then same training as doctor. Fournier graduated in 1984 from UCLA, has been practicing continuously since that time. He's self-employed, works at outpatient surgery in Beverly Hills; works with plastic, reconstructive, orthopedics, gynecological surgeries

Fournier said he got a call in 1992 from a dermatologist's office, asked him to come by, stand by, didn't tell him who the client was. Doctor had a concern there might be anaphylactic reaction to inoculations. Fournier: I initially refused, I don't do that, doctor was very insistent, offered me cash upfront. "He said it was really important for me to go, since it was Michael Jackson," Fournier recalled. Fournier said the doctor was very concerned, didn't want anything to go wrong. Airway management is one of his skills, Fournier said.
Three to six months later, Fournier recalled he was called back to treat MJ. This was in Jan 1993.

Most of the records were destroyed due to time limit, Fournier said. Last time he treated Michael was in 2003, about 6 yrs before his death. He treated MJ for about 10 years. Fournier said he does not have all the records of his treatment to Michael Jackson, but has some. Fournier gave a deposition in this case. He provided the medical records he had pursuant to a subpoena. Fournier said he believes the standard is 7 years before a physician destroys a patient's record.

Some of the times I did not give him medication, just observed him, Fournier said. Fournier estimates he treated MJ 30-35 times, anesthesia perhaps 25 times.

Cahan showed a medical history form and anesthetic consent.
Weight: 130 lbs -- Date: 1/19/2000

Fournier said he always asks height and weight of patients and if he thinks the weight is off, he puts patient on scale. Michael had a number of aliases, Omar Arnold was one of them, Fournier said. MJ said he weighed 130 lbs in January of 2000. Fournier said he probably accepted MJ's representation. Weight is a factor in anesthesia, Fournier said. It gives a very rough estimate where to start the dosage. Fournier: I think he weighed between 130 and 140 pounds during the 10 years I treated him.

Cahan: Did he have a good appetite?
Fournier: Not really. I would ask him what he had to eat last and he would say lunch the day before

One time Fournier said he asked why MJ was down to 130 lbs. He said the singer told him he had been on tour, dancing.
Cahan asked if it concerned him that MJ was 130 lbs.
Fournier: No, he's lean, muscular, in good shape, so no

Fournier explained all the questions he asks the patient before giving anesthesia: medical history, medications, etc. The nurse said that if it's a regular patient, he would still take medical history, but it would be abbreviated. Fournier said he always took MJ's medical history prior to procedures.

The nurse worked on MJ at the following procedures: scalp reduction for burn he suffered, abscessed tooth, root canal, extensive tattooing on his lips, eyes, brown area, Botox, collagen and filler injections

Cahan: Do you frequently anesthetize patients receiving Botox or fillers?
Fournier: No

Fournier: Michael was special in that. Instead of 5 or 6 injections that people normally get, MJ would get 50-100. MJ got 100s of injections around the eye, various parts of his face. It's more than average patients, needed to be sedated to tolerate pain.

Fournier has been using Propofol since 1990. It's appropriate to use the drug mostly in operating room and/or controlled setting, he said. Equipment needed for Safe Administration of Propofol: Ambu bag and mask, Assorted airway equipment, Laryngoscope blade, Laryngeal mask, Endotracheal tube ready to go, Available source of oxygen, EKG, Capnograph, Ability to measure blood pressure, Pulse oximeter, IV access and IV fluids, Resuscitation Drugs, Continuos monitoring

Fournier said to keep patient sedated you also need computerizing infusion. It's a more controlled way to administer drugs rather than drip. Depending on the dose, the patient can breath on his own, Fournier said. Fournier read the label of Diprivan (brand name for Propofol). He said monitoring the patient is a full time job.

All the equipments needed are very expensive, Fournier said. He had about $70,000 invested in his operating room. "Every time we give anesthetic there's a potential for reaction," Fournier said. Propofol is not available in pill form and is not given as prescription to patients because it's an anesthetic, dangerous, Fournier said. If the drug is not in proper hands, administered with proper monitoring, it's dangerous, Fournier explained. Fournier said Propofol half life is 2-8 minutes. It metabolizes relatively quickly, patients wake up feeling well, there's anti-nausea in it The nurse said Propofol burns if not given correctly, can cause hypertension.

Cahan said she counted 14 different occasions where Fournier administered Propofol to MJ. He has record for 2000, 2002 and 2003 only. From 1993 to 2000, there are no medical records. He said he believes he gave MJ Propofol in 2001, but does not have records. He said he did not administer anesthetics after September 2003.

Fournier said his incomplete medical records show he administered propofol to Jackson at least 14 times between 2000 and 2003. He estimated he gave the singer the drug numerous other times over the years for a variety of cosmetic and dental procedures.He noted in his records that Jackson had a high tolerance for certain drugs, which Fournier said could be attributed to a variety of factors, including genetics. (AP)

Medical record from 4/11/02:
Omar Arnold
Weight: 132 lbs
Dr. Koplin
Multiple collagen injections
Additional drugs given -- Propofol 140 mg

Fournier: The street name (of Propofol) is "milk of amnesia." One time I remember he (MJ) referred to it as "milk."

Fournier said MJ was very warm, likable guy and they became friends. He visited Neverland twice.

MJ never told him he was using Propofol to help sleep. Fournier said he never used Propofol to treat a patient for insomnia.

The nurse said he had trouble some times placing IV on Michael Jackson. He said at times he would have to change places. Fournier said it required multiple attempts some times to get an IV line in MJ. "I think the most I had to stick him was 3 times," he said. Fournier explained that some times he would have to start IV on small veins on MJ on the top of his finger or surface of the arm.

Medical record from 5/13/2003 -- weight 135 lbs
difficult IV place, difficult monitoring anesthesia, high tolerance of medication
Fournier said sometimes he would go 6 months without seeing MJ, so he explained the risks of anesthesia every time.

Medical record of 11/14/2000
Weight: 130 lbs
Mentions Versed, 5 mg
Very high tolerance noted
Vitals stable

Versed is a benzodiazepine, same as Valium, Fournier explained. "He was taking a little bit more than I'd anticipate to keep him comfortable," Fournier said. Fournier's normal starting dose is 1 mg of Versed. This was a dental procedure.

The nurse cannot perform any procedure without a doctor present.

Doctors MJ saw:
- Dr. Arnold Klein (dermatologist)
- Dr. Stephen Hoefflin (plastic surgery)
- Dr. Allan Metzger (internist)
- Dr. Lawrence Koplin (plastic surgery)
- Dr. Edward "Lee" Baxley (dentist)
- Dr. Leslie Levine (dentist)
- Dr. Lee Bosley (hair restoration)
- Dr. Gary Tearston (plastic reconstructive surgery)

Fournier said it is not appropriate to give Propofol in a home setting. He would never allow a patient to dictate how to give anesthesia.

MJ was very concerned about his privacy, Fournier said. He could not even go shopping without being disguised. "He loved people, but people could be overbearing sometimes," Fournier explained. Fournier said MJ would have procedures done in the evening, came in the back door, bodyguards used umbrella to shield the camera. MJ used aliases, before he left they looked outside to see if paparazzi were not there. Other aliases MJ used: Michael James, Jack James. "Procedures were done at night to protect his privacy and for his safety," Fournier said.

Cahan: Was there a time you didn't think MJ was being truthful with you?
Fournier: Towards the end of our working relationship, yes

Medical records from 6/02/2003
Problems:
Denies any medical or medication changes
Three days ago slurred speech, heard on the phone

Fournier said 3 days before the procedure it was his birthday and MJ called to wish happy birthday. "His speech was slurred," the nurse said. Fournier testified Michael told him he was tired, or might've take something to sleep. "He was more than tired, he was slurring the words," Fournier said. "I assumed something was going on." Fournier said he quizzed MJ about the slurred speech, if he was using recreational drugs. He denied it, said he was not using anything.

Medical record from 6/02/03:
Dr. Klein
Multiple derm procedures
Weight: 140 lbs

At some point MJ had an unusual reaction, Fournier said. Fournier: I controlled his ventilation 4 couple of minutes, it happened again, I lightened him up, assisted one more time w/ his breathing. Fournier said Dr. Klein told him something during the procedure and that they spoke after about it. MJ did not tell Fournier about any recent changes in his medication, according to Fournier's chart.
Cahan: Did you form an impression after this procedure whether MJ was being honest with you denying any change of medication?
Fournier: My impression is that he had not been truthful

Fournier: The last time I treated MJ, a few months after, he came to surgery center. He was a little goofy, a little slow to respond. Fournier: I asked if there were any changes in medication, he denied it, I didn't believe it, we canceled the procedure. "He was acting inappropriate," Fournier recalled. He said he believes the procedure was with Dr. Klein and another doctor to do facial work. Fournier said he felt uncomfortable. This was about 3 months after the last procedure.

Judge: Was Dr. Klein there?
Fournier: Yes
Judge: And he didn't stop the procedure?
Fournier: Michael came in and I made the decision

Michael Jackson had a high tolerance for certain drugs and wasn't always forthcoming with his medical history, a nurse anesthetist who treated the singer testified Thursday. Witness David Fournier told jurors he had worked with Jackson for a decade until the relationship ended in 2003, when Fournier refused to participate in a medical procedure.Jackson was acting "goofy" and was slow to respond to standard questions before a scheduled cosmetic surgery that was canceled after Fournier refused to administer an anesthetic, he said. The incident came a few months after Fournier said he had to help Jackson breath while undergoing another procedure and later determined that Jackson had not disclosed a new medical condition. "He wasn't honest with me," Fournier said without detailing the change in Jackson.At the time, Jackson had an implant in his abdomen to block the effects of Demerol and other opiate drugs. Fournier testified that he had given the singer a relatively large dose of a powerful anesthetic and needed to know how Jackson was going to react. (AP)

After that, Fournier explained what happened to their relationship. Fournier: Despite 10 years of quality of care, and taking good care of him, he (MJ) never called me back. Fournier: I felt this period here, in June (of 2003), he wasn't honest with me.

Fournier said that post-operatively they want patients to go home with an adult to keep an eye on them for 24 hours. "I told him to go home and instead of going home he went to rehearse," Fournier said. MJ sprained his ankle at rehearsal for Grammy Awards. Fournier said he tells patients after anesthesia to resume diet slowly, told MJ to go home, have crackers, soup. But he said he happened to drive by Kentucky Fried Chicken, saw MJ's limo parked. Fournier tapped at the window and saw MJ eating a bucket of chicken and some biscuits. "He was embarrassed," Fournier said.

Fournier also testified that Jackson failed to follow his instructions in two instances after being sedated for procedures. Jackson went to a Kentucky Fried Chicken restaurant for a bucket of chicken instead of going home and eating crackers, he testified. Another time he went to a rehearsal for a Grammy show performance and sprained his ankle, he said.(CNN)

Fournier said MJ became a patient in 1992-93. He said in 1993 MJ announced he was addicted to prescription medication. Every time they met, Fournier said they talked about the medications he was taking.

Cahan: Did you ever administer an opioid/painkiller in connection with a procedure?
Fournier: Yes. Fentanyl, Demerol, Dilaudid

They are controlled substances to relieve pain, Fournier said. MJ said he did not like Demerol one time, according to the nurse.
Cahan: In the last times you treated MJ, did he ask you not to use Demerol?
Fournier: Yes, he said he didn't like it, didn't want it
Cahan: Did you ever have a conversation with Mr. Jackson where he said he had a procedure to block the effects of opioids?
Fournier: No

"My understanding is that the last time he had a problem (with Demerol) was in 1993, when he announced to the world," Fournier said.
MJ never discussed Naltrexone with Fournier.

Cahan: Do you know what Narcan implant is?
Fournier: I do now, it was not FDA approved then
Cahan: Did you have conversation with Mr. Jackson about Narcan implant?
Fournier: Yes

Fournier: Subsequent to the procedure, he said he have had one but it was out, that he was clean and didn't need one. This was late August/September in 2003, after the procedure MJ stopped breathing. Fournier said the discussion was probably pre-op call before a procedure. Fournier: I had become aware of Narcan implant had been used for his care so I asked him about that.
The procedure moved forward next day, Fournier said. MJ did great.

Fournier said he was sometimes paid for his work, but sometimes it took up to a year to receive payment for care to Michael Jackson.

Fournier said he ran into MJ in 2005 at the waiting room of a doctor's office.

Jackson cross

Every instance where Jackson was given propofol was medically justified, Fournier said. The 14 times he administered it between 2000 and 2003 involved plastic surgeries, dermatological procedures and oral surgeries, he said. He first sedated Jackson in 1993 when he was being treated for serious scalp burns suffered while filming a Pepsi commercial several years earlier, he said. Some of the 25 times he was hired to assist with Jackson's procedures no drugs were given, he said. He would just hold his hand and assure him it would be all right.Jackson never asked for specific drugs and never quarreled with him, he said. All of the doctors who treated him were respected physicians, he said. Fournier's friendly relationship with Jackson ended in November 2003 when he canceled a procedure because Jackson was "a little goofy, a little slow to respond." Fournier said he refused to sedate Jackson because he suspected he was lying to him about his use of drugs. "Despite 10 years of good quality care and taking good care of him for a long period of time, he never called me," he said. (CNN)

Michael Koskoff did cross examination. He wanted to talk about the thing that really got you angry at MJ. "I wasn't angry," Fournier said.

Koskoff recalled the day MJ called Fournier to wish him happy birthday. Fournier said he knew MJ had a problem sleeping. Koskoff asked if Fournier inquired 'Michael, has there been any change in medication since last time I saw you?' Fournier: Correct
Koskoff: And MJ said there was no changes
Fournier: Right
Koskoff: Something happened at that point to make you believe Michael had misrepresented that he didn't change his medications?
Fournier: I believe he denied all medications

Koskoff asked if MJ did well in the procedure on 5/13/03. "Other than difficult IV placement and high tolerance to medication, he did fine"

Koskoff asked in April 24, 2003 -- how did that procedure go?
Fournier: No problem

Koskoff: Did you believe he was lying to you?
Fournier: The problem happened after that discussion

June 2, 2003 is the date MJ had an apnea episode.
"Yes, I was upset about that," Fournier said.

Koskoff: And it was because you thought MJ had misrepresented he didn't change his medications, correct?
Fournier: Yes

Koskoff: Would you be willing to apologize to Mrs. Jackson for saying her son was lying to you?
Objection, sustained, irrelevant

Koskoff: You have no knowledge whether the Narcan implant had anything to do with the reaction in June?
Fournier: No

Fournier said he never heard Narcan as an implant, had never seen one. "I was told by two of his physicians there was one," Fournier said. He spoke with doctors Klein and Metzger about it.

Koskoff: If Dr. Farshchian said it was Naltrexone implant and he thought it was the same as Narcan, it would be a mistake, correct?
Fournier: Correct. They are two different drugs.

Dr. Klein told Fournier MJ had a Narcan implant, he went home, research it and could not find anything on it. "I know the effects of Narcan," Fournier said. It can cause cardiac arrest, tachycardia, defibrillation. Naloxene, which is Narcan -- Fournier has familiarity with it. Fournier is not used to Naltrexone, but said it's also an opioid inhibitor. Koskoff: Do you know the effects of Naltroxene in anesthesia? Fournier: It would have the same effect of this kinds of drugs, antagonist opioid effect and it's dose-dependent.

Koskoff: In approximately 10 year he never reported to you allergy to Demerol?
Fournier: In the last year he did (after he started implant)
Fournier: He never told me he was allergic to it (Demerol), he said he didn't like it. In the medical record, Fournier wrote allergy to Demerol. He said it was a code to himself to not give MJ that drug.

Koskoff: Did you use any opiates in June 2?
Fournier: Yes, Remifentanil

Koskoff: May, 2003 -- did you give him an opioid?
Fournier: Remifentanil, high dose, developed tolerance
Propofol -- 240 mg

Koskoff: If you assume he was implanted in April 2003, at this time (May) he had it on, right?
Fournier: Correct

Medical record from May 13, 2003:
Height: 72 inches (6 feet)
Weight: 140 lbs
Allergy: Demerol
Medications: Denied

Koskoff asked if Fournier knows what caused the reaction on June 2, 2003. "I have a suspicion of what causes it," Fournier said. "Very strong suspicion."

Fournier has no prescription authority in California.

Koskoff said about holding Michael's hand, if that was literal.
Fournier: Yes, it's literal
Fournier: the doctors appreciated someone monitoring MJ, he was very important, at the peak of his career, and Michael was paying me. "They were very happy to have me there to make sure Michael was safe," Fournier testified.
Koskoff: You said you literally held his hand?
Fournier: Yes, for painful injections, squeeze my hand if you feel pain


Fournier agreed that Michael never chose the drugs he administered, never asked for more.
Koskoff: You gave MJ Propofol and he never asked you for Propofol, correct?
Fournier: Correct
Koskoff: You called the shots?
Fournier: Correct
Koskoff: If someone say MJ had drug-seeking behavior, you didn't see it?
Fournier: Correct

All the doctors treating MJ were top notch physicians, Fournier said. Fournier about Dr. Klein and Botox: He was quick to tell me he was a pioneer and no one could do better than him. Fournier said he never felt MJ had anesthesia inappropriately and didn't feel like MJ was doctor shopping.

Koskoff: Did he ever ask you to remain under anesthesia for longer than you thought was necessary?
Fournier: No

"He told me he didn't like it," Fournier said MJ told him about Demerol.

Koskoff: Physically, during the time you treated him, did he look well?
Fournier: Yes

Fournier said MJ was very thin and frail in pictures he saw of the singer in 2009. Koskoff asked if MJ was the same as when Fournier treated him. "He was thinner," Fournier responded.

Koskoff: Isn't it true a fit and competent doctor would not give Propofol at home?
Fournier: Correct

Fournier said he uses Demerol in a limited basis. It was popular in the '70s. It's a drug used for pain, analgesic, opioid. "12.5 mg of Demerol is giving intravenously for shivering," Fournier said. The dose if from 12.5-25 mg.

Koskoff: You treated MJ over period of more than 10 years
Fournier: Correct

Fournier said they had a good relationship and MJ was a good patient. But MJ did not followed post-operative recommendations.

Koskoff asked if Fournier was more concerned that Dr. Klein didn't tell him. He said yes. Michael told Dr. Klein about it, Koskoff said. "You expect your clients and your doctors to be honest with you," Fournier explained. Fournier: I was angry at Dr. Klein, I was angry at Michael, I was angry at anyone who knew about it and didn't tell me. Koskoff: Are you still mad? Fournier: No, got over it

Fournier, a certified nurse anesthetist, testified about an incident on June 3, 2003 in which Jackson stopped breathing while under sedation for a procedure with Beverly Hills dermatologist Dr. Arnold Klein. After Jackson suffered a "somewhat bizarre reaction" during the sedation, Klein told Fournier it might be because the singer had an "opioid antagonist" implant. It was intended to help treat a dependence on Demerol, he said."You expect your clients and doctors be honest with you and I felt ambushed and was upset," Fournier testified. The nurse said it made him angry at both Klein and Jackson. (CNN)

Fournier said it's a small community (of anesthesiologists) and everyone talks to everybody about who they are treating. "Sometimes when it involved patient care, we talk to each other," Fournier said. Koskoff: If MJ was concerned that an anesthetist was talking about him having Narcan for drug addiction, would that be a valid concern? Fournier said he didn't understand the question, that he talked to other people treating MJ. Koskoff said there are 200-300 people in the anesthesia community. Fournier: If you're taking care of somebody and if someone else asks you, that's taking care of patient. It's not chattering. Fournier said it's usual for physicians to look at charts to see what kind of treatment was done before and the response he had.


AEG recross

Cahan, in re-direct, asked if 300 mg of Demerol in single intramuscular is a lot. "That's a tremendous amount," Fournier responded. "If you gave it to me I would probably stop breathing," Fournier said.

Fournier: Hiding information from person who's going to take care of you can lead to untoward event.

Cahan asked Fournier to assume MJ, beginning in Nov 2002 to July 2003 placed 5 Naltrexone implants. Cahan: Did MJ ever say he was on any medication whatsoever in April, May and June 2003? Fournier: All of those times Michael denied taking any medication. Cahan: So 3 times in 2003 he did not disclose he had a Naltroxene implant? Fournier: Correct. "He was not telling me the truth," Fournier said.

Fournier said that after he canceled the surgery, MJ never called him again on his birthday and never used his service anymore.

Koskoff asked Fournier if he knows whether Dr. Farshchian told MJ the implant had medication in it. He said he doesn't know. So if MJ didn't say anything about the implant, it could be because he didn't know it was a medication, Koskoff asked. Fournier: I'm going to assume if he's having a surgical procedure to implant something he would know what that is for.

Dr. Klein apologized afterwards for not telling Fournier about the implant.

"Some burn patients get hundreds of anesthesia," Fournier said, and Michael was a burn patient. "I knew he was in the hospital in 1994 after the burn, yes," Fournier said.

During cross-examination, Fournier said Jackson never requested any specific drugs, including propofol, during procedures or asked to be sedated for longer than was necessary. He said the singer didn't exhibit any drug-seeking behavior or signs that he was doctor-shopping. Fournier said he knew that Jackson had received an above-average number of anesthetic treatments over his lifetime, and many were related to procedures needed after Jackson was badly burned in a shoot for a Pepsi commercial in 1984. Fournier said it was not common to administer an anesthetic during cosmetic procedures, but the ones done on Jackson were complex and involved dozens of injections. Some of the procedures were near Jackson's eye and sedation was necessary to keep him still, Fournier said. Fournier also said he never had any indication that the singer was using propofol as a treatment for insomnia. (AP)



Partial Medical record

David Fournier, a nurse anesthetist, treated Jackson between 1993 and 2003. He has record for 2000, 2002 and 2003 only. From 1993 to 2000, there are no medical records. He said he believes he gave MJ Propofol in 2001, but does not have records. He said he did not administer anesthetics after September 2003. Fournier said his incomplete medical records show he administered propofol to Jackson at least 14 times between 2000 and 2003. He estimated he gave the singer the drug numerous other times over the years for a variety of cosmetic and dental procedures. Some of the 25 times he was hired to assist with Jackson's procedures no drugs were given, he said. He would just hold his hand and assure him it would be all right.

1993: He first sedated Jackson in 1993 when he was being treated for serious scalp burns suffered while filming a Pepsi commercial several years earlier, he said.

19 Jan 2000 : Weight: 130 lbs

14 Nov 2000 :Weight: 130 lbs , Mentions Versed, 5 mg, Very high tolerance noted, Vitals stable

"He was taking a little bit more than I'd anticipate to keep him comfortable," Fournier said.
Fournier's normal starting dose is 1 mg of Versed. This was a dental procedure.

11 April 2002: Omar Arnold, Weight: 132 lbs , Dr. Koplin, Multiple collagen injections , Additional drugs given -- Propofol 140 mg

24 April 2003 : No problem

13 May 2003: weight 135 lbs , difficult IV place, difficult monitoring anesthesia, high tolerance of medication.

Medical record from May 13, 2003: Height: 72 inches (6 feet) , Weight: 140 lbs , Allergy: Demerol , Medications: Denied
Remifentanil, high dose, developed tolerance
Propofol -- 240 mg
"Other than difficult IV placement and high tolerance to medication, he did fine"

2 June 2003 : Dr. Klein , Multiple derm procedures, Weight: 140 lbs , Denies any medical or medication changes , Three days ago slurred speech, heard on the phone.
opiates: Remifentanil

June 2, 2003 is the date MJ had an apnea episode. At some point Jackson had an unusual reaction, and Fournier controlled his ventilation for couple of minutes, it happened again, lightened him up, assisted one more time with his breathing.

Late august / September 2003: Fournier refused to participate in a medical procedure. Jackson was acting "goofy" and was slow to respond to standard questions before a scheduled cosmetic surgery that was canceled after Fournier refused to administer an anesthetic, he said.

Zusammenfassung von Ivy, MJJC #59
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Zusammenfassungen der vorangegangenen gerichtstage:
Day 1 - 50
Day 51 - zeuge Dr. Emery Brown Video Deposition; zeuge Peter Formuzis
Day 52 - zeugin Katherine Jackson
Day 53 - forts. zeugin K. Jackson; AEG-zeuge John Meglen
Day 54 - forts. AEG-zeuge Meglen
Day 55 - zeugen J. Meglen; Dr. Alimorad Farshchian Video Deposition

Exklusiv transcripts eröffnungsstatements u.a. (MJJC #1 ff.)
Zeugenaussage von Prince Michael Jackson Jr.; exklusiv transcripts von MJJC # 7
Deposition transcripts filed with the court.
Note : these are not the full depositions, they are only the portions played in the court.
Dr. Stuart Finkelstein Deposition video transcript
Dr. Earley Deposition video transcript
Tim Leiweke Deposition video transcript
Randy Phillips Deposition video transcript
Quelle Ivy, MJJC #50

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The Jacksons vs. AEG Live — Zeugen von AEG, 2. Teil

26. Juli 2013

Seit Dienstag ist nun wie abgekündigt AEG Live an der Reihe, ihre Seite des Falles zu präsentieren und ihre Zeugen zu befragen. Nachdem am Dienstag erst noch der Jackson Experte Arthur Erk von AEG ins Kreuzverhör genommen wurde (siehe hier http://www.nydailynews.com/entertain...icle-1.1400457), wurde am Mittwoch John Meglin, ein Manager von AEG Live und der CEO von Concerts West, dem Bereich von AEG Live, der für Michaels Comeback Tour verantwortlich war, von AEG befragt.

Zur Erinnerung: genau genommen ist John Meglin nicht der erste Zeuge, der für AEG Live aussagt. Bereits am 13. Mai wurden die beiden Tänzer/Choreographen Stacy Walker und Travis Payne befragt (siehe hier http://www.jackson.ch/the-jacksons-v...on-aeg-1-teil/). Deshalb auch “Zeugen von AEG — 2. Teil” für die heutige Meldung.

John Meglins Aussagen hatten insbesondere zum Zweck, die frühere Expertenaussage von Buchhalter Arthur Erk für die Jackson Seite anzugreifen bzw. zu schwächen (für Erks Aussage siehe hier http://www.jackson.ch/the-jacksons-v...ksons-36-teil/ ). Meglin meinte u.a., dass Michael nie soviele Tickets verkauft hätte, wenn er noch leben würde, wie dies Erk prognostiert hatte. Erk hatte geschätzt, dass wenn Michael nicht gestorben wäre, er bis zu seinem 66. Geburtstag USD 1.5 Mia. hätte verdienen können. Meglin meinte, dass Erks Hochrechnungen ca. 30 Prozent zu hoch angesetzt seien und gewisse Annahmen, die Erks Hochrechnung zu Grunde lagen, nicht der Realität entsprechen würden. So ist Erk zum Beispiel von 90’000 verkauften Tickets pro Stadium Show ausgegangen. Meglin meinte jedoch, das nach seiner Erfahrung keine Stadien so viele Plätze für eine Show nach Michael Jacksons Stil fassen würden. Das Rose Bowl Stadium zum Beispiel (wo Michael den Super Bowl Auftritt 1993 hatte) fasst 60’000 Sitze. Und obwohl Billboard Magazine berichtet hatte, dass U2 im 2009 vor 97’000 Leuten performt hatte im Rose Bowl, sagte Meglin, dass er seinen Instinkten vertraue, dass diese Zahl aufgebläht worden war. “Ich weiss, dass solche Zahlen manipuliert werden können,” so Meglin. Jackson Anwalt Brian Panish bemerkte, dass bei Michaels Super Bowl Show im Rose Bowl 1993 sogar 98’000 Plätze besetzt waren.

Meglin bestritt zudem Erks Annahme, dass Michael seine Tour für mindestens drei Shows nach Indien gebracht hätte. “Niemand geht nach Indien”, meinte Meglin. Später räumte er jedoch ein, dass Michael Jackson während seiner HIStory Tour in Indien aufgetreten war. Obwohl die Bevölkerung bei 1.25 Mia. Menschen liegt, sei Indien kein sehr grosser Markt, so Meglin. Meglin war auch nicht mit einer Aussage von AEG Lives CEO Randy Phillips einverstanden, der in einer E-Mail geschrieben hatte, dass in England genug Nachfrage für 200 Shows von Michael bestand. “Er hat das geglaubt. Ich glaube das nicht”, so Meglin. Phillips hatte auch bemerkt, dass sämtliche 750’000 Tickets für 31 “This Is It Show”, im März 2009 in gerade mal 2 Stunden nachdem die Tickets zum Verkauf standen, weg waren. Und es hatten sich bereits genug Käufer registriert, um 100 weitere Shows auszuverkaufen, so Phillips in seiner E-Mail.

Meglin war auch anderer Meinung als Randy Phillips, als dieser Michael Jackson als den grössten Entertainer aller Zeiten gepriesen hatte. “Ich persönlich glaube nicht, dass dies stimmt. Meiner Meinung nach ist Celine Dion genauso eine grosse Entertainerin wie Michael Jackson. Für mich ist sie sogar grösser als Michael Jackson”, sagte Meglin.

Quellen: jackson.ch, cnn.com, nydailynews.com

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The Jacksons vs. AEG Live — Zeugen von AEG, 3. Teil

26. Juli 2013

Am Donnerstag hat David Fournier, ein Krankenpfleger im Bereich Anästhesiologie, der Michael Jackson mehr als ein Dutzend Mal Propofol verabreicht hatte, ausgesagt. Fournier ist der erste von “vielen, vielen” im medizinische Bereich tätigen Zeugen, die Michael Jackson behandelt hatten, so hatte AEG Anwalt Putnam vorgängig angekündigt. AEG rief Fournier als Zeugen auf, um die Geschworenen davon zu überzeugen, dass Michael Jackson betreffend seinen Medikamentengebrauch so täuschend und geheimnisvoll war, dass die AEG Manager gar nicht wissen konnten, dass seine Gesundheit während den Vorbereitungen zu “This Is It” gefährdet war.

Fournier erzählte u.a. von einem Vorfall am 3. Juni 2003, als Michael Jackson während einer Narkose für eine Behandlung bei Dr. Arnold Klein plötzlich zu atmen aufgehört hatte. Nach einer “leicht merkwürdigne Reaktion” während der Sedierung hatte Dr. Klein Fournier gesagt, dass dies wegen eines “Opiatantagonists”, den er implantiert hatte, sein könnte. Dieses sollte ihm bei der Behandlung seiner Abhängigkeit von Demerol helfen. “Man erwartet von seinen Patienten und Ärzten, dass sie mit einem ehrlich sind und ich fühlte mich hintergangen und war verärgert (über Klein und Michael Jackson)”, so Fournier. Die AEG Anwälte erhoffen sich von diesem Bericht, dass die Geschworenen sehen, dass Michael Jackson betreffend seinen Medikamentengebrauch nicht ehrlich war und dass das AEG Management somit keine Chance hatte zu wissen, welche gefährliche Behandlungen Murray Michael Jackson verabreicht hatte.

Fournier berichtete auch, dass Michael Jackson in zwei Fällen die Anweisungen im Anschluss an eine Sedierung nicht befolgt hatte. So ging er einmal in einen KFC, um fried chicken zu essen, statt wie angewiesen nach Hause zu gehen und erst einmal nur Cracker zu essen. Ein anderes Mal ging er direkt an eine Probe für eine Grammy Show Aufführung und verstauchte sich dabei den Fuss.

Fournier sagte aber auch aus, dass jedes Mal, als Propofol verabreicht wurde, dies aus medizinischer Sicht gerechtfertigt war und dass er nicht den Eindruck hatte, dass Michael Jackson ein Medikamentenproblem hatte. Die 14 Male, in denen Fournier Michael Jackson zwischen 2000 und 2003 Propofol verabreicht hatte, waren für plastische Operationen, dermatologische Behandlungen und Operationen im Mundbereich. Das erste Mal, als Fournier Michael Jackson unter Narkose gesetzt hatte, war 1993, als er im Zusammenhang mit seinen schweren Verbrennungen an der Kopfhaut beim Pepsi Werbefilm einige Jahre zuvor behandelt wurde.

In 25 Fällen, als er beauftragt wurde, bei Behandlungen von Michael Jackson zu assistieren, wurden keinerlei Beruhigungs- und Schmerzmittel verabreicht, so Fournier. Fournier hatte lediglich Michaels Hand gehalten und ihm versichert, dass alles gut kommen würde. Michael hatte auch nie um spezifische Medikamente gefragt und hatte nie mit ihm gestritten, so Fournier. Alle Ärzte, die ihn behandelt hatten, waren angesehene Ärzte.

Fourniers freundschaftliche Beziehung mit Michael Jackson kam im November 2003 zu einem Ende, als er eine Behandlung absagte, weil Michael Jackson “ein bisschen albern erschien, ein bisschen langsam reagierte”. Fournier sagte, dass er sich weigerte, Michael eine Narkose zu verabreichen, weil er vermutete, dass Michael ihm nicht die Wahrheit gesagt hatte, was für Medikamente er an jenem Tag eingenommen hatte. Trotz der langen Zeit von zehn Jahren, in denen er sich gut um ihn gekümmert hatte, hatte Michael ihn nach diesem Vorfall nie mehr angerufen, so Fournier.

Quellen: jackson.ch, cnn.com

Weiterlesen unter http://www.jackson.ch/the-jacksons-v...on-aeg-3-teil/
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Jacksons vs AEG - Day 55 – July 24 2013 – Summary

Katherine and Trent Jackson are at court.


John Meglen Testimony


Jackson Cross


AEG Live executive John Meglen is back on the stand. He’s being cross examined by plaintiff’s lawyer Brian Panish. There were some testy exchanges between Meglen and Panish. The lawyer went back over a lot of Meglen’s testimony from yesterday. There were lots of objections. The judge also had to tell Meglen to give yes or no answers, and told Panish not to argue with the witness. The session actually ended when the judge called a sidebar right before the lunch break. (AP)

Panish asked Meglen about his testimony yesterday on the reported 97k attendance figure for a U2 concert at the Rose Bowl. Meglen said yesterday he didn’t believe the figure as it was reported by Billboard magazine. Panish asked him for any evidence to dispute it The executive said he didn’t have evidence to dispute the 97k attendance figure, but made clear he doesn’t believe it. (AP)

The Rose Bowl would only seat 60,000, Meglin said. Although Billboard Magazine reported that U2 performed for 97,000 people in the Pasadena, California, venue in 2009, Meglin said he was "trusting my gut" that the numbers were inflated. "I know how those numbers can be manipulated," he said.Jackson lead lawyer Brian Panish noted that 98,000 people were in the Rose Bowl seats when Michael Jacksonperformed the halftime show for Super Bowl 27 in 1993. (CNN)

Panish showed the Rose Bowl chart defendants created and asked what's the maximum seating capacity in the Rose Bowl? Meglen: There are many factors that go into that "I believe the seating capacity for a football game is 100,000," Meglen said.
Panish: For a music concert?
Meglen: You'll need to tell me the size of the production in order to tell you (ABC7)

Meglen: U2 Concert was called 360, so I'm assuming it sold 360 degrees. Meglen said he was at the Rose Bowl but didn't watch the U2 concert. Panish asked if 97,000 people sounds right. Meglen: No, I'm not aware of that because I was not involved in the show Panish asked if Meglen was saying the Rose Bowl can't fit 97,000. "I'm not trying to tell you that, it depends on the size of the production. Michael was a stage end production," Meglen opined. Meglen: If you have a center stage, 360 in the round with a small stage in the middle, you could probably get 97,000, yes. Panish asked if Billboard Magazine was wrong about U2 having 97K people. "I told you I do not believe the numbers on Billboard" Meglen said. Panish showed picture of U2 concert at the Rose Bowl. Meglen said the floor is not completely filled up. Panish asked how many seats are in the Rose Bowl. Meglen said the stadium is around 100,000 people. (ABC7)

Panish: You told us yesterday you spoke with the promoters of U2. Who did you speak with?
Meglen: Jerry Barae -- he's in Chicago (ABC7)

Meglen: I never disputed what U2 sold at Rose Bowl. I cannot tell you how much are paid tickets, how much are what we call 'paper ticket' VooDoo Lounge, 180-200 degrees, you can sell 60,000 seats, Meglen said. Panish asked if Meglen spoke with someone promoting the U2 concert at the Rose Bowl and that there were only 60,000 people there. Meglen said that was not true. (ABC7)

Panish: If you testified to that it is a lie, then?
Meglen: I don't believe that's what I testified to

"I said that I don't believe it," Meglen said, "and I still believe that's not true. My answer said it is not true they had 97,000." Meglen: When I talk about ticket sales, we talk about paid tickets. We don't really care about people who don't pay tickets. "No one from U2's group told me that 97,000 people did not attend the Rose Bowl," Meglen said. Meglen explained he based his opinion on his experience promoting and producing stadium shows for 35 years. (ABC7)

He said he doesn’t believe the 97k figure was for paid attendance, which is what matters to him and what he was referring to. Panish
showed Meglen a photo from the U2 show. Fans were packed in the stands and hundreds were on the field. Meglen pointed out that the U2 show had a 360-degree stage that allowed them to sell tickets throughout the entire Rose Bowl. He said Michael Jackson’s stage for the “This Is It” show was different, an “end stage” setup that wouldn't allow as many concertgoers. Meglen conceded that you could probably fit 97k people in the Rose Bowl with the right stage, but they might not have all bought tickets. (AP)

Meglen smiled at Panish.
Panish: Is it funny Mr. Meglen?
Judge: Mr. Panish, don't argue -- she shook her head (ABC7)

Meglen said he's been working with Gongaware for 35 years. Panish asked if Meglen agrees with Gongaware that the sale of MJ's tickets was the fastest ever in the industry. Meglen: I don't think I agree with that statement, but I think that's what Paul thought.
Panish: Do you agree or disagree this is the most amazing ticket sales Mr. Gongaware has ever seen?
Meglen: I agree that's the most that Paul had seen (ABC7)

Meglen said he has done tours for 35 years, probably hundreds of tours.(ABC7)

The lawyer asked about Paul Gongaware’s contention that he had never seen anything like the “This Is It” ticket demand. Panish wanted to know why Meglen didn't agree with Gongaware's characterization of the "This Is It" ticket sales. Meglen: “Paul and I have worked on different projects in our lives.” He said he couldn't give the lawyer a simple yes or no answer. Panish asked whether Meglen was denying that Jackson had “huge ticket drawing power.” Meglen responded, “Not at all.” (AP)

Panish: Do you agree with Randy Phillips, the CEO of AEG, believe Mr. Jackson had an obligation to attend rehearsal? Meglen: I don't know the context of which this question was asked. You are asking me to opine on what Randy was thinking. Meglen: I don't know if Michael had a contractual obligation. "Randy may have felt Michael was obligated, but don't know it was contractually obligated," Meglen said. Meglen: I agree that an artist should go to some of the rehearsals, yes (ABC7)

Panish asked Meglen a bit about the AEG corporate structure. Meglen reports to the CEO of AEG Inc., he said. Panish again asked Meglen about his contention from yesterday that there were bigger stars than Michael Jackson. Panish's questioning focused on AEG execs Paul Gongaware and Randy Phillips saying there was no one bigger than Jackson. The lawyer then asked Meglen whether he agreed with AEG Live CEO that Michael Jackson was bigger than Celine Dion. Meglen works directly with Dion and her tours in North America. It took him a few tries before he answered the question. He said he doesn’t believe that Phillips’ statement is true, but it was a personal opinion. “To me, she’s bigger,” Meglen said. (AP)

Panish: Do you agree with Randy Phillips that MJ was a bigger artist than Celine Dion, yes or no?
Meglen: I do, myself, personally believe that that is not true
"In my opinion Celine is right up there with Michael Jackson and is bigger," Meglen said. (ABC7)

Meglen and Panish went back-and-forth for several minutes over when AEG’s negotiations began with Jackson in 2008. Meglen didn’t remember the time frame, so Panish played his deposition in which he said the negotiations started in Fall of 2008. Panish then asked whether Meglen was personally involved in the negotiations. He said he wasn’t at the negotiating table. It took a long time and several questions to establish that Meglen was briefed about negotiations during meetings with other AEG Live execs. Meglen didn’t review the actual contracts for the “This Is It” shows, but said he had input on ticket prices, other issues. (AP)

Panish played Meglen's deposition, where he was asked when he recalled the negotiations with MJ started. Meglen said Summer or Fall 2008. Panish: Is that the truth or not, sir? Or you don't know the truth? Meglen: It's the truth, but I'm not good with dates, need to look at my calendar. (ABC7)

Meglen said he was not at the table during the negotiation, he would be at the office doing his work. Meglen: I was not personally involved, face to face, with MJ's people Meglen said that the negotiation is not only the contract, but various internal conversations about the tour. "As CEO of Concerts West, it's my job to review any negotiations people are having regarding tour," Meglen said. Meglen explained he was involved in the internal discussions, in conversations with Gongaware and Phillips. He never reviewed the contract as was being drafted, Meglen said. (ABC7)

Meglen said he was not involved in "This Is It" movie. Panish said he was credited as co-producer of the movie. Meglen said he was a co-producer of the show not the movie. Meglen explained Gongaware has not been involved in Celine Dion's tour, but they give each other credit. (ABC7)

The exec said he gave input in ticket prices, scaling and places to have the show. Panish played video deposition, where Meglen said he doesn't recall if he was involved in the forecast for MJ tour. Timm Wooley is friends of Meglen. They haven't discussed the trial. The last time they saw each other was in London for Rolling Stones show. Wooley doesn't work for AEG, but to Rolling Stones now. Hougdahl "Bugzee" is working for Shania Twain. Panish showed an email from Gongaware about MJ first draft of worldwide tour projection. It lists "net to Mikey $132 million." Email: It's a big number, but this is not a number MJ will want to hear. He thinks he is so much bigger than that. If we use show income, it's over a quarter of a billion dollars. His net share works out to be 50% after local venue and advertising costs, which is quite good. His gross will approach $ half a billion. Maybe gross is a better number to throw around, if we need to use numbers with Mikey listening.
Panish: Isn't Paul Gongaware suggesting to lie to Michael Jackson?
Meglen: No he is not (ABC7)

Panish asked Meglen is he knows Dr. Finkelstein. He said he asked which tour he was in with Michael Jackson. Meglen said he saw Dr. Finkelstein at the Coachella festival. He got tickets from AEG. (ABC7)

Meglen spoke with Gongaware about previous MJ's tour. He knows that Michael canceled a tour because MJ entered rehab. (ABc7)

After a brief break, Panish showed Meglen the AEG projections for a worldwide tour for Jackson that were displayed last week. Panish went through the list, showing that AEG had plotted out potential shows in Europe, South Africa and other locations. The lawyer pointed to several shows planned for India and his contention that big artists didn’t perform in India. Panish then rattled off several acts who peformed in India: Beyonce, Akon, Shakira, 50 Cent. Meglen didn’t dispute they performed there. “It’s not a very big market, that I do know,” Meglen said of the India concert scene. A dispute over India’s population ensued. Panish at one point said that there were billions of people in Mumbai alone, prompting several attorneys and the judge to chime in. Panish conceded the billions of people in Mumbai remark wasn't right and moved on to other topics. (AP)

Panish showed email Gongaware sent with the attachment of the worldwide MJ tour and cc'd to Meglen. It lists cities, the amount of shows and weeks in Europe, South Africa, Asia (and Middle East), India and US.
Panish: You told us yesterday no one goes to India
Meglen: Not that many do. Again, I told you very few people, no one as in few people
Meglen said he thinks MJ did one or two shows in India.
Panish: Is Beyonce no one?
Meglen: No, she's a very popular
Panish: Do you know she went to India?
Meglen: I have not idea
Panish also named Shakira, Akon, 50 Cent that went to India. The email projection shows 3 shows in India plus one private for MJ. (ABC7)

He next asked Meglen about Phillips’ contention in an email that Jackson could have sold out 200 shows in London. Meglen said he didn’t agree and that he didn’t believe that Jackson could have done 200 shows in London. Asked if Phillips’ statement in the email was a false one, Meglen said yes. He added that no one in the business has a “crystal ball.” He said Phillips may have believed that was true, but he didn't believe Jackson could have done 200 shows in London. Panish asked some questions about how many tickets people could buy for the “This Is It” shows. Meglen said he didn’t know. Meglen and Panish went back-and-forth about it for a few questions, then the judge called a sidebar. (AP)

Meglin also disagreed with what one of his superiors, AEG Live CEO Randy Phillips, wrote in an e-mail that there was enough demand in England alone to sell out more that 200 Jackson shows. "He believed that," Meglin testified. "I don't believe that." (CNN)

Meglen said he does not believe MJ could sell 200 shows in London. Panish said Randy Phillips said that. "My opinion is no, that he he could not have done 200 shows in London," Meglen testified. Panish showed an email from Phillips saying "We could have done 200+ shows based on demand." Meglen said he does not believe that is true. "He believed that, I don't believe that." "No one has a crystal ball in our business," Meglen said. "He could've done 200 shows is purely speculation on his behalf." Panish asked if Phillips was more hands on than he was in "This Is It" tour. He said yes. “I don't know if I agree there were 525,000 people in the queue," Meglan opined. "Everybody exaggerates, and when something is hot everyone wants to take it to the moon," Meglen said. Panish asked Meglen to assume Randy Phillips told the truth. "I know it's a big assumption," Panish said. Defendants' attorney objected, judge sustained it and asked to go to sidebar to talk to attorneys. Attorneys went to judge's chamber and talked for about 10 minutes. They came back and judge broke session for lunch. (ABC7)

Panish corrected himself about number of people living in India. Earlier he said several billion people live there, but should be millions. "I understand you are mistaken," Meglen said. "It doesn't mean you are a liar." Panish said he would not respond to Meglen's comment. (ABC7)

Regarding India, Meglen explained: "I don't think it's a small market, I think it's an under developed market." Meglen said he knows that Michael played in India, heard from Panish that Beyonce went to India. (ABC7)

Panish: When you testified yesterday, you didn't know anyone that had gone to India, correct?
Meglen: No, that's not correct (ABC7)

Panish: Are there a lot of stadiums in the world that hold more than 60,000?
Meglen: Yes, there are a lot of soccer stadiums in the world
Panish: In Australia?
Meglen: Yes (ABC7)

Meglen said he does not recall how many times MJ sold out in London.(ABC7)

Leonard Cohen -- AEG promoted and produced worldwide tour, Meglen said.
Panish: Did you hire a doctor for Leonard Cohen?
Meglen: We do not hire doctors (ABC7)

Panish asked if Meglen has had experience where the CEO is involved in doing an intervention with an artist. Meglen said he's aware of it happening before in the early 80s, not at AEG. He was involved minimally in the intervention. (ABC7)

Meglen said he has not had emails from show managers at AEG saying the artist was deteriorating. "I've had situation where the production manager had emails about the artist's behavior," Meglen testified. "I've had situations where artists had been sick before, yes," Meglen said. Panish: Have you ever called the doctor for 30 minutes to discuss the artist's condition? Meglen: No (ABC7)
Panish asked if Meglen had ever seen an email saying AEG wanted to remind the doctor they are paying the bill. The exec said no. (ABC7)

Meglen: I'm aware of us checking people out. "We don't hire doctors, if the artist wants his doctor there, the way we check that out we go to the artist," Meglen said. "If I'm asking the artist if that's his doctor, that's throughly checking him out," Meglen explained. (ABc7)

Meglen: I asked MJ if he was performing this and he told me he did not want to do (a residency show in Las Vegas). "I think MJ would have to do over 2.5 shows a week or you couldn't have such a deal," Meglen said. (ABC7)


AEG redirect

In re-direct, Jessica Bina asked about the proposal for the Las Vegas show in 2010 with MJ's Estate. "There are numbers for per week, per year for the first 5 performance years, then next 5 performance years," Meglen explained. Meglen said he became aware Cirque du Soleil was anxious to get a deal done with the Estate to have a MJ show. Meglen said his argument was that there was something better to do. (ABC7)

Meglen: We don't have a crystal ball (on whether show would be successful or not). (ABC7)

Bina asked if artist is in the middle of stadium w/ microphone if there are reasons the show couldn't be filled to capacity. Meglan said no. Bina: But does it happen very often? Meglen: No. Meglen: Artist has to be comfortable with all around stage, production becomes very challenging and incredibly expensive as well as sales. "This Is It" was not set to be a 360 degree show, Meglen said. He noted it was quite the opposite. MJ's production was $26-$27 million. Meglen said for TII to become 360 degree tour, there would be cost associated with it. "Pretty much, it would have to be a new production." Meglen explained 180-240 degrees in front of the stage is the standard in the business. Meglen said if he could sell more tickets for TII he would have. "It's nothing but profit at that point." The executive said there was never a conversation about making TII show 360 degree. (ABC7)

Meglen said again he doesn't agree with Phillips' opinion that there were 200+ more shows to be done in London. Meglen said putting 13 million tickets on sale was not on his mind. He expected the London shows to do well. The executive said when MJ said "This is It" people thought that was it. But if he went to other cities, this was not it after all. Meglen said that at the time MJ died there were only 50 shows agreed upon between MJ and AEG. Meglen said that for lower ticket price TII was a great sale. (ABC7)


Jackson recross

Panish: Were Paul Gongaware and Randy Phillips more involved in TII than you?
Meglen: Yes (ABC7)

The executive said he never told Gongaware and Phillips the projection was bad, only that he thought it was a long ways to get to the end. (ABC7)


AEG redirect

Meglen said Beatles' "Love" and Cirque du Soleil "O" are two of the most successful conceptional shows. (ABC7)

Bina showed Gongaware's email again: Here's the first-draft look at a worldwide tour... you can't pin this down now... too many variables. (ABC7)

Meglen said it's not possible to see the Beatles anymore, since some members are dead. Meglen: If Michael was still alive and touring, I would not be interested in doing a MJ conceptional show. (ABC7)


Jackson recross

Panish asked if MJ wanted to go worldwide, AEG would've been able to make that happen. Meglen said he could've set up the arrangements. "I cannot tell you how many more Michael Jackson tours he could've done it, it's pure speculation," Meglen said.
Panish: Did you know MJ told his children they would go on a world tour?
Meglen: I have no idea (ABC7)

Meglen was excused.


Dr. Alimorad Farshchian Video Deposition

Deposition was in August 2012. Marvin Putnam did the questioning. Dr. Farshchian went to Rutger's University, graduated in 1983 with pre-med. He went to medical school in Saint Lucia in 1987. After that he did cardiac research at SUNY in Brooklyn. He did that for 3-4 years. He then did residency in internal medicine and family medicine, went to private practice. Dr. Farshchian is not board certified. Center for Regenerative Medicine is his practice in Florida. He's the medical director. (ABC7)

Dr. Farshchian treated MJ in April 2001 and stopped in 2003. 'I was one of his doctors," he said. Dr. Farshchian said MJ was having an issue with his ankle, he was supposed to performed at Madison Square Garden, had to rehearse. Dr. Farshchian: And he had an ankle issue that was more like a sprained ankle that was not healing and he had to continue to dance on it. "He made an appointment like everybody else," Dr. Farshchian said. (ABC7)

Putnam asked if MJ wanted to get off drugs, if that happened at the hotel in a second meeting with the doctor. He said yes. Putnam: Do you remember the first time he told you he wanted to clean himself up from drugs? "He was trying to get off Demerol," Dr. Farshchian said. MJ told him he had a problem with the drug. Dr. Farshchian said MJ's main concern was his kids, always his kids, I'd do for my kids, and to spend more time with his kids. (ABC7)

At that time, Dr. Farshchian said he wasn't following MJ on the media. At that point, to me he was just a regular patient. Dr Farshchian: When I got to know him I visited him at the hotel, read a little about him on the internet, then realized was ongoing problem (ABc7)

Putnam: Did MJ tell you he was addicted to Demerol?
Dr. Farshchian: Not in certain words
Putnam: Did he seek treatment with you?
Dr. Farshchian: Eventually (ABC7)

Dr. Farshchian: To treat Michael for that problem, I thought that because he travelled quite a bit he needed something to be on him. I chose Naltrexone, Dr. Fashchian testified. The drug inhibits the effects of the narcotics, if you take it it stops giving you the euphoria. Dr. Farshchian said he implanted more than one patch of the drug in MJ. It normally lasts 60-90 days in the body. MJ had patch implanted 5 times. Dr. Farshchian said in training in family medicine, he learned about psychiatry and drug dependency. Dr. Farshchian: The implant, back then it was more popular, not doing as much anymore. The doctor said carrying an implant in you, you carry a risk of infection. That could be a reason they don't do it that much. Dr. Farshchian said MJ's skin would have allergy from the patch, he wouldn't be very comfortable with it. Dr. Farshchian: It's usually placed in the abdomen lower than belly button, right or left side, and removed after 90 days. (ABC7)

Medical record timeline (ABC7)


21 Jul 02 -- sent more information about Buprenex, since did not get any respond (sic) from him and attempt to intervene.

Jackson had some sort of infection on his leg, he was going to Germany at the time, so Dr Farshchian went with him for treatment of his condition

20 Oct 02 -- patient states he need some help him with his addiction problem. He does not wish to go to an outpatient rehab facility despite the pressure from family. Discussed with him option of Naltrexone.

Dr. Farshchian said Jackson was adamant about not going to rehab facility. He was concerned about his privacy and paparazzi.

04 Nov 02 -- Jackson's weight was 128 -- pre-procedure, cut the skin, insert implant chip of Naltrexone.

Dr. Farshchian used local anesthesia with lidocaine 1%, done as outpatient in doctor's office in Miami.

06 Nov 02 -- phone call, states he's doing well tolerating minimum agitation, little insomnia

Dr. Farshchian said it was a 10 hour production to go from Neverland to Miami. Jackson said he was going to see a psychologist. "Jackson was very private with everything," Dr. Farshchian said. At the time, he was complaining of insomnia. He was seeing a herbologist for it. Dr. Farshchian said Jackson always had trouble sleeping. "To me his insomnia was caused, possibly, you have this area inside the nose...called turbinates, if you reduced it's called empty nose syndrome, to me that was the cause of that. Putnam asked if parts of Jackson’s nose were missing? Dr. Farshchian’s response, “ Portions of his nose were taken out. (Jurors heard from Farschian that Jackson suffered from insomnia years earlier. The doctor's theory is that it was linked to cosmetic surgery: a key part of Jacksons nose was missing. "It is possible that you produce what they call empty nose syndrome and producing insomnia," said Farschian.)

Two days later, Jackson reported good nights.”

26 Nov 02 -- ankle wound is better, but he had taken the implant out by a physician at home, wishes to do another implant

Dr. Farshchian said Michael had a local doctor who didn't know what the patch was and removed it. Jackson would itch it, had some skin rash. Michael really wanted to do this, he came back to get the procedure done, Dr. Farshchian said.

26 Nov 02 -- second procedure of Naltrexone

27 Nov 02 -- no nausea, vomiting, diarrhea. Abdomen implant well placed Naltrexone implant: continue current treatment, patient sober x 20 days

29 Nov 02 -- feels very good, sleeping well. No sign of opiate withdrawal.

Dr. Farshchian: My practice is completely orthopedic regeneration. He said he treats arthritis and orthopedic conditions.

02 Dec 02 -- feels very good, sleeping well Patient sober, now going over the 12 steps with him

Dr. Farshchian: Each of the steps is somewhat connected of asking God to help you get strength to battle addiction. There was a period of time Jackson stayed with Dr. Farshchian, he stayed over two times, the children one time. The doctor lives in North Miami Beach, Bay Harbor Island. Grace Rwamba might've stayed at the house as well. Dr. Farshchian said he converted his garage into a bedroom for Jackson. He never treated Jackson at the house.

04 Dec 02 -- Narcan implant at its place Exercised the 12 steps with him

20 Jan 03 -- patient returns for another implant, been sober for more than 2 months, states been following the 12 step program Weight: 135 lbs

03 Apr 03 -- patient returns for another implant, sober for almost 6 months following 12 step program at least once a week with private social worker

02 Jul 03 -- patient returned for another implant, sober for almost 9 months, good with 12 step program

Patient can follow up with local physician at this point. Dr. Farshchian said he thought it was enough, the treatment was done.

(About the plaintiffs claim that Jackson was emaciated, the autopsy recorded he was 136 pounds when he died. Farschian testified that Jackson weighed 128 when he treated him.)

The next time Dr. Farshchian saw Michael was the weekend after he was arrested.
Putnam: How was he doing?
Dr. Farshchian: Not too good
Putnam: Was he using drugs again?
Dr. Farshchian: No (ABC7)

Dr. Farshchian: There was an attempt intervention by the family but MJ was very difficult to get to, bodyguard, so it may not have happened. Putnam asked if the intervention was in the Spring of 2002. Dr. Farshchian said it might've been after or before, not sure. (ABC7)

Dr. Farshchian is not aware of MJ doing any other outpatient treatment. (ABC7)

Dr. Farshchian said when MJ's third child, Blanket, was just born, there was 'a monkey on his back', he didn't want to do it anymore. "Monkey on his back" was Demerol use, Dr. Farshchian said. Dr. Farshchian said he didn't know why MJ became addicted or started taking Demerol. The doctor said MJ did not abuse other drugs or alcohol. (ABC7)

MJ was seeing other doctors in CA.
List of other doctors:
Dr. William Van Valin -- Dr. Farshchian doesn't know him
Dr. Murray -- Dr. Farshchian doesn't know him
Dr. Arnold Klein -- yes, I heard about him through the media
Dr. Steven Hoefflin -- Dr. Farshchian doesn't know him
Dr. Metzger-- yes, heard being MJ's physician in LA, might have spoken to him. Spoke about implants, what to do about it, how he should look (ABC7)

Last time Dr. Farshchian spoke with Mrs. Jackson was at the funeral. Before he spoke with her at a 2002 Christmas at Neverland. He said he also had a phone call with Mrs. Jackson where she wanted to know about the implants. Michael called Mrs. Jackson and Dr. Farshchian said he was treating MJ for addiction to Demerol. (ABC7) The doctor said he talked to her directly about the singer's detox treatment."I think she wanted to know all about it, what was going on," said Farschian. (ABC)

Last time he spoke with MJ on the phone was in the Winter of 2004. His first impression was that he wanted to get better for the kids' sake. (ABC7)

Did you understand Mrs. Jackson was concerned about his health? Dr. Farshchian: Yes, I don't recall the conversation, but once she understood the procedure he said she was happy Dr. Farshchian: Once at Neverland Michael showed his mother the implant. She was very happy about it. (ABC7) The doctor said he implanted Jackson five times over nine months and that he personally witnessed Mrs. Jackson examining her son's incision. "I remember that was in Neverland. Michael did show the implant to his mother. Just his mother was there. She was very happy," said Farschian. (ABC)

Zusammenfassung von Ivy, MJJC #58
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Zusammenfassungen der vorangegangenen gerichtstage:
Day 1 - 50
Day 51 - zeuge Dr. Emery Brown Video Deposition; zeuge Peter Formuzis
Day 52 - zeugin Katherine Jackson
Day 53 - forts. zeugin K. Jackson; AEG-zeuge John Meglen
Day 54 - forts. AEG-zeuge Meglen

Exklusiv transcripts eröffnungsstatements u.a. (MJJC #1 ff.)
Zeugenaussage von Prince Michael Jackson Jr.; exklusiv transcripts von MJJC # 7
Deposition transcripts filed with the court.
Note : these are not the full depositions, they are only the portions played in the court.
Dr. Stuart Finkelstein Deposition video transcript
Dr. Earley Deposition video transcript
Tim Leiweke Deposition video transcript
Randy Phillips Deposition video transcript
Quelle Ivy, MJJC #50

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Jacksons vs AEG - Day 54 – July 23 2013 – Summary

Katherine Jackson is not in court.


John Meglen (Co-CEO of Concerts West) Testimony


AEG direct

Meglen didn't have involvement in Michael Jackson's contract. He said after the initial meeting, there was a quiet period. Then they met again in ealry 2008 and began discussions of what to do and where to go with MJ's comeback tour. (ABC7)

Defense attorney Jessica Stebbins Bina is doing the questioning of Meglen. She asked him this morning about initial plans for “TII” shows. Meglen said London was the venue AEG Live considered most because it’s considered “the biggest concert market in the world.” He said AEG considered putting Jackson’s shows in Asia, possibly Shanghai or Tokyo. He noted Asia was a historically strong market for MJ. Meglen said Japan is still the stronger concert market. “You can generate a lot more revenue in Japan than in China,” he said. He said ultimately the economics of having Jackson do his shows in Asia didn’t work out. They couldn’t get a high enough ticket price there. North America was not an option, Meglen said, due to Jackson’s reputation here and controversies he'd had here. (AP)

The promoter said they considered London, the biggest market in the world, since it has a new, hot arena. He said the strength of artist's popularity is based on ticket sales, ticket sales of similar artists, record sales, radio time playing. "We did not want to start the tour in North America," Meglen said. Meglen: We weren't sure what the reaction, ticket sale would be in N America because of the historic stuff Michael had gone before in the US. Meglen said the other option was Asia, Japan especially. He has done a number of other tours in Asia. However, Meglen said the economics wasn't there for Asia, couldn't get a high enough ticket price in China. He said there are a lot of rich people in China, but a lot people with not as much money. eglen said MJ had sold stadium shows in London before, had a successful track record there. (ABC7)

The promoter said normally they talk about show net, what we call artist gross, is when discussing money. "You can't compare net of artists because they all spend differently on the road," Meglen said. The show net is where you determine the artist gross from, Meglen explained. (ABC7)

AEG Live executive John Meglen is back on the stand. He’s been testifying a lot about his experience in the concert promotion business. Meglen worked somewhat on the “This Is It” tour early on, looking at budgets and projections and doing some initial planning. Meglen wasn’t working on the tour day-to-day. He was handling other AEG Live shows while other execs were working on the “This Is It” shows. He said he attended one rehearsal and didn’t meet with Michael Jackson often. He was in an initial project discussion meeting in early 2007. Meglen said he never met Conrad Murray or reviewed the doctor’s draft contract. AEG Live’s attorneys want Meglen’s testimony to demonstrate that calculations by plaintiff’s damages expert Arthur Erk are off. (AP)

Meglen said he was not intimately involved in the budget tour and budget production, but has seen them and knows what a budget is. Meglen said he was aware of talks about a worldwide tour with MJ. Meglen: The London shows were the only approved shows from our standpoint at AEG. He explained that the only one that went thru the approval process was the London shows. It was a long way to the completion of the London shows, so Meglen said there was no urgency in figuring out where to go after that. Meglen would have to approve a worldwide budget, he said. And it all depended on the London shows success and their review. (ABC7)

Meglen said Paul Gongaware called Michael Jackson 'Mikey' because they knew each other. (ABC7)

The promoter said AEG advanced the money for "This Is It" tour. The superstar deals: the selling of tickets is kind of a given, Meglen said. So they get out of guarantee and get profit participation. "They are worried about what their shares are as opposed to guarantee," Meglen explained. This is the type of deal for Led Zeppelin, Elvis Presley, Neal Diamond, Meglen testified. (ABC7)

Meglen wasn't involved in the production of TII. He has never met Dr. Murray and has not seen any draft agreement between AEG and the doctor. Meglen said he has been involved in tours where a doctor was part of the production. He named Rolling Stones, Celine Dion, John Denver.
Bina: Is it worrisome to have a doctor come on tour?
Meglen responded no, not at all.
He said you're dealing with singers, sometimes you have a lot of dancers on shows, so doctors, physical therapists, chefs, not uncommon. (ABC7)

Meglen said he had never seen an AEG contract where the artist is required to rehearse. Meglen said Celine Dion's director was freaking out because she was not showing up for rehearsals. The rehearsal is more for the people around the artist, Meglen said. He said it is very common for artists to use TelePrompTers. Celine Dion, Meglen said, not only uses Teleprompter but has an ear piece with director speaking to her. (ABC7)

Meglen said he had one show in Las Vegas that didn't sell tremendously well and they had to shut down production early. No names mentioned. The promoter said the hotels in Las Vegas would not allow an artist to have a residency show with only 2 and 1/2 shows per week. He said the hotels want customers every night, so resident shows need to have a constant schedule and few days off. A residency show needs more than 2 and 1/2 shows per week to be able to pay expenses and make money, Meglen explained. He said the promoter would be able to survive with only 2 and 1/2 shows per week, but not the artist. Meglen said the average ticket price for a headliner show in Las Vegas currently is $100-$125. (ABC7)

An arena is an ambitious step to take the model of a Las Vegas show. Arena fits 50k-60k people, Meglen said. Meglen said he has put together a show idea for Las Vegas involving Michael Jackson, but not a residential show. Meglen: We proposed to the Estate a Michael Jackson Campus at the Planet Hollywood Hotel. Meglen: It'd involve artifacts in MJ exhibit, items from Neverland, 2 restaurants, nightclub and a theatrical show directed by Kenny Ortega. This was after Michael Jackson passed away. Meglen said this was never proposed before he died. Bina showed a document with an a structural outline with the concept of the Las Vegas show, possible partners and numbers. Meglen said they wanted to take this to another level, creating an entire campus as opposed to just a show and a boutique. Meglen said he became aware the Estate of MJ was in talks with Cirque du Soleil for a show in Vegas, which gave AEG a sense of urgency. The promoter said he got one meeting with the executor of MJ's Estate, John Branca, but they were already involved with Cirque du Soleil. Meglen: You run 10 years (in a residency show) and you hit a home run. Meglen said they were very interested in a MJ Las Vegas show. He said he made an offer as attractive of better than Cirque's proposal. Meglen said there was a guarantee of $60 million over 10 years. "The Estate told us they were not interested," Meglen said. (ABC7)

An AEG Live executive testified Tuesday that the firm offered Michael Jackson's estate a guarantee of $60 million over 10 years in a deal that included a Las Vegas theatrical show based on the pop star's songs. John Meglen said the proposal included a "Michael Jackson campus" at the Planet Hollywood Hotel that would have included the singer's artifacts, two restaurants, a nightclub and stores to sell merchandise. The show would have been directed by Kenny Ortega, the director of the ill-fated "This Is It" 50-concert comeback tour Jackson was preparing when he died in 2009. The AEG executive testified his company would have paid an additional $40 million to create the show. "The $40 million gets you to opening night," he said. Meglen, dressed in a dark blue suit and a white shirt open at the collar, said this would have been AEG's first shot at creating what he called a "conceptual show," rather than one where a live performer is the main attraction. Conceptual shows, he said, are riskier. “With the headliner, you have a certain track record of how many tickets they’re going to sell … but if you do a show based on Elton’s music or Celine’s music, it depends on how good the show is, I guess,” said Meglen referring to Elton John and Celine Dion, singers who have done extended runs at Las Vegas hotels. Meglen said that hearing that Cirque du Soleil was talking to the Jackson estate is what led AEG to make its pitch. He said they had a meeting with the estate's co-executor, John Branca, in his conference room. Meglen said AEG did a "B-minus, C-plus pitch. In my opinion, they were already down the road and they wanted to do the show with Cirque.” Meglen said AEG never made Jackson an offer for a conceptual show while he was alive. “We thought if we could create the show with Michael’s catalog that that could be very successful, but it’s risky,” Meglen said. (Latimes)

While Michael Jackson was alive, Meglen said the ideal would be to have the artist live as a residency show. But that wasn't an option. He said tribute shows don't do well when the artist is alive, since people want to see the actual performer. (ABC7)

Meglen said he probably has never proposed an India concert. "Nobody goes to India," Meglen said. Jacksons attorney objected saying Meglen has no experience in India. Judge sustained. (ABC7)

Meglen explained the stadiums normally don't allow sale of full capacity. The stage is big, when you sell all around is called 360 degrees. The projections the Jacksons expert produced is more than that, Meglen said. He estimated they would sell 220 degrees in MJ's shows. All stadiums and arenas have suites and the promoters and artists don't get to charge them, Meglen said. People buy the suites on an annual basis and it includes concerts. The building gets the money, not the promoter or artist. (ABC7)

Asked if Jackson would have been able to fill stadiums and arenas at 100 percent capacity had he lived long enough to conduct a worldwide tour, AEG Live co-CEO John Meglen testified that the answer was no. According to Meglen’s testimony, seats behind the stage or with obstructed views cannot be assigned to ticket holders. The only seats that can be sold are those with a view of the arrest on stage, a much smaller number than the total number of seats in the venue.(NBCLA)

Meglen said you can't put an arena show into a stadium, specially because of the size of the stage and the production. It's also much more expensive to do a stadium show, Meglen explained. (ABC7)

Rolling Stones had 59,000 people, the maximum capacity they could have at The Rose Bowl, Meglen said. The Rose Bowl is one of the biggest stadiums in the country and there is the idea that it fits 100k people, Meglen explained. "You're lucky if you can hit 60 (thousand)," Meglen said. (ABC7)

Bina shows another exhibit. There's dispute as to which exhibit has been admitted already or not. Judge sent jury to lunch. Outside the jury presence, Panish complained to the judge that AEG's attorney Jessica Bina handed over copies of exhibits to the jury. He said the proper procedure is to hand the documents to the clerk or bailiff and let them handle them to the jury. Panish said the attorneys should not have any contact with the jurors whatsoever. Bina said it was not her intention, apologized. (ABC7)

John Meglen resumed testimony in the afternoon. Bina showed him plaintiffs' Highest Grossing Tours chart created by Erk from Wikipedia data. Bina: Which tours you promoted all or portion of tour?
8- Rolling Stones
11- Celine Dion
12- Eagles
13- Pink Floyd
18- Bon Jovi
20- Bon Jovi
26- MJ HIStory
28- Pink
30- Bon Jovi
34- Britney Spears
35- Bon Jovi
37- Justin Timberlake
38- Paul McCartney(ABC7)

Meglen did 7 whole tour, 3 North America and 2-3 did some shows of the highest grossing shows. He said he's familiar with endorsements and sponsorship deals involving a tour. Meglen worked on two shows of MJ's HIStory tour. (ABC7)

Bina said there was a lot of testimony about the fast pace of sales of tickets. She asked if he has seen any other show sell that fast. Meglen: Yes, Voodoo Lounge, Division Bell we almost sold out immediately, we call instant sell outs. Meglen: Those were stadiums tours and when we put them on sale we rolled into multiple stadium dates, that's about as high as it gets. (ABC7)

Rolling dates means opening more dates based on demand, Meglen explained. He said initially 10 shows for TII was sold, then 31, 50.
Bina: Was this the best selling show you've ever seen in your career?
Meglen: No, because it was a relatively lower ticket price. We sold as many tickets on Voodoo Lounge as fast as we sold MJ.
"In numbers of tickets sold in a day, sure, we have done those kinds of numbers before," Meglen explained. Meglen said he negotiated a number of tour deals, from Beach Boys to Sunkist, Good Vibration deals. (ABC7)

Sponsor puts a name in an event, Meglen said. Endorsement is when product/company associates name with an artist, artist does commercials. Meglen said the Rolling Stones sponsorship with Citibank was $2.5 million, which is not near 42% of the gross revenue.
Bina: Was sponsorship 42%?
Meglen: No, there's no correlation, I've never heard anything like it
Meglen said there were no endorsements deal for the This Is It tour. Bina said she had no more questions at this time. (ABC7)


Jackson cross

North America was not an option, Meglen said, due to Jackson’s reputation here and controversies he'd had here. The lawyer asked about Meglen’s characterization of Jackson’s “This Is It” ticket sales and whether he agreed with his boss’ opinion. (AP)

Panish, in re-cross, asked: Is Paul Gongaware truthful?
Meglen: Very truthful
P: And Randy Phillips?
M: Yes (ABC7)

Panish: Do you agree with your boss' Phillips and Gongaware MJ was the greatest artist of all time?
Meglen: I don't know what their opinion was. I believe that they believe that.
Panish: Do I believe MJ was the biggest artist of all time?
Meglen: No, I do not
Panish: Who is?
Meglen: I think Michael is big in pop world, but in my opinion Rolling Stones and Led Zeppelin -- "I'm a rocker" (ABC7)

Panish asked Meglen to name bigger artists than Jackson. Meglen said Jackson was big in the pop world, but cited 2 rock acts as bigger. Meglen named the Rolling Stones and Led Zeppelin as bigger acts, explaining he’s “a rocker.” (AP)

Panish: Is Celine Dion honest?
Meglen: Yes
Meglen and Dion have been working together for 12 years. He's familiar with a lot of her shows. (ABC7)

Panish then asked Meglen about concert attendance figures cited in Billboard magazine. Meglen said he uses them, but just as an outline. “I’ve kind of learned to believe that they’re not totally accurate,” Meglen said of the figures. (AP)

Panish asked about a Celine Dion show performed at the Stade de France outside of Paris. The listed max capacity is around 80k. Meglen said he believed the stadium could host 60,000 to 70,000 concertgoers for a show. Panish cited figures for two Dion shows in 1999. Panish showed Meglen a printout from Dion’s website, stating she sold 90k tickets each night for two shows in June 1999. “That’s what it says,” Meglen said of the printout. The executive told the jury he didn’t promote the Stade de France shows. Meglen had also told the jury that he wasn’t familiar with the promotion of Dion’s Asian or European tour dates. (AP)

Panish: What did you testify was the maximum capacity of stadium in France?
Meglen: I don't believe it is 80,000
Meglen: Generally, 30% of the numbers that your expert project you have to take out because it gets you to the salable number.
Panish: So what's the maximum seating capacity for that stadium in Paris?
Meglen: I don't know exactly, I'd say 60 to 70,000
Panish: Isn't it true Celine Dion sold 90,000 tickets at that stadium in 1999?
Meglen: I don't know if that's true, didn't promote that show
"It sounds like too big a number to me," Meglen said. Panish said it was 180,000 people for two shows. (ABC7)

Panish then attacked AEG’s slide on the Rose Bowl attendance figures. The slide said concert capacity was about 60,000 people. Panish showed Meglen a Billboard magazine story that reported U2 packed in 97,000 people for a concert there. Meglen said that’s what Billboard reported, but he said he hung out before that show and was told by the band’s rep that it hadn’t sold out. The executive said one of the only shows AEG Live has ever produced that had more than 60k concertgoers was at Ohio State University (AP)

Exhibit: Rose Bowl Cap
Rolling Stones VooDoo Lounge, 2 shows
Plaintiff's Stated Capacity: 92,542
Actual Capacity: 59,570
Difference: 32,972 (ABC7)

Meglen said he met with his attorney 5 days to prepare for his testimony. He was subpoenaed at lunch time and Bina said they will respond. "The maximum capacity of shows I've done at the Rose Bowl was 59,570," Meglen testified. (ABC7)

Panish: Isn't it true U2 had 97,000 people attend at the Rose Bowl?
Meglen: That's not true
Panish: It was reported on Billboard Magazine
Meglen: I wouldn't believe it (ABC7)

Panish showed Meglen the Billboard Magazine article. He asked how many tickets were sold at U2 performed in Oct 2009 at the Rose Bowl?
Meglen: It looks like they (Billboard) reported 97,000. I have done Pink Floyd and Rolling Stones, we try to sell as much as we can, we got to roughly 60,000.
Panish: Are you an expert in stadium?
Meglen: I think I am pretty much an expert in the field. (ABC7)

Meglen said that to him, the biggest stadium cap he played was in Columbus, Ohio for a concert and he got in over 60,000. Meglen: You assume I believe and agree with those numbers because they are on Billboard magazine. Those numbers are often inflated. (ABC7)

Panish asked Meglen how much time he spent preparing to testify. The exec said portions of five days. Meglen had been working on the Stones’ recent tour, started trial testimony preparation when he got back last week. Panish then asked Meglen about his contract and how much he got paid. Stebbins Bina objected, saying it was irrelevant to the trial. Panish said Meglen’s salary was relevant because it went to bias. Stebbins Bina said it was an invasion of privacy. Judge sustained the objection and Panish asked it a different way. Meglen said he was paid “sufficiently.” The lawyer asked if Meglen was paid a lot. The executive said he didn't know how to answer that question. When prodded, Meglen said $1 million a year seemed like a lot to him. He added he wasn’t paid that amount. (AP)

Panish asked if Meglen will do anything he can to protect AEG. "I'm here to tell the truth," Meglen said. Panish: How much do you get paid by AEG? Defendants' objected, said it has nothing to do with this case. Panish argued this goes to show a bias. He said he's under a 5 year contract with discretionary bonus. Judge sustained it. Panish asked if Meglen gets paid a lot by AEG. He said a lot to one person is not a lot to another. Panish asked what's a lot. Meglen said a million/year. Then Panish asked if Meglen gets paid a lot. "I'm not paid a million dollars a year" (ABC7)

Panish moved on after a few questions and then asked about a comment Meglen made yesterday that he works with “animals.” Meglen said he wasn’t referring to artists, he was referring to the people who prep and tear down shows and are on the road all the time. (AP) Panish asked about Meglen's reference to work with animals. "I told you yesterday that the people I worked are like animals," Meglen said. "I still work with animals." He said he was referring to crews and guys who works with him assembling shows and taking them down in hours. (ABC7) “I think we’re animals by doing that,” Meglen said. Panish asked whether the exec respected artists. “Very much,” he replied. (AP)

Panish asked if Meglen respects artists. He answered yes. He then asked if it is ok for AEG to refer to an artist as freak or creepy. Panish asked if it's appropriate for one of AEG's executive to call an artist "freak" and "creepy." "People will use terms about an artist that people have used before," Meglen answered. Panish asked if it's appropriate for AEG to call artist a freak. Meglen said no. Panish asked if Meglen thought it was appropriate for your lawyers to refer as freaks or creepy? Meglen: I don't believe it is yes or no answer. I believe if people are communicating in a personal level is different from being in public. "It would not be a appropriate is it was in a public fashion," Meglen opined. Panish: But in private it's ok? Meglen said he doesn't believe it's a yes or no answer. "I think when someone is having a private conversation and later if that becomes public, that can change things," Meglen said. Meglen: Freak had been used numerous times prior, I don't believe it was appropriate term for him to use but term that had been used before. "I think "creepy" is not that bad of a word," Meglen said. He told Panish he's sure they both have been called creepy behind their back. (ABC7)

Panish asked if it was appropriate to call an artist a “freak” or a meeting with an artist “creepy” as AEG corporate lawyers did in emails. Meglen said it depended on the situation and it wouldn’t be appropriate to do it in public. He said it wasn't a simple yes or no answer. After several more questions, Meglen said it wouldn’t be appropriate to call an artist a freak. He said calling someone creepy was different. Meglen said he’d probably been called creepy, and said it might have been said about Panish. “No one would say it to my face,” he replied. (AP)

Meglen said they always want to do what's best for the artist. He had some disagreements with his old boss. (ABC7)

Panish asked Meglen several questions about a June 2009 email that Paul Gongaware sent regarding Conrad Murray. Gongaware email: “We want to remind him that it is AEG, not MJ who is paying his salary. We want him to understand what is expected of him.” Meglen said he wasn’t copied on the email and could only speculate on what Gongaware meant. (AP) Panish asked Meglen to assume Gongaware wrote an email and said tell Murray, remind him it's AEG, not MJ, paying his salary. Panish showed Gongaware's email to Meglen. He said he's seen the email on the newspaper. Panish: You told me "who's paying your salary" is "where your bread if being buttered." Meglen: I said Mr. Ferrell told me 'you know where your bread is buttered.' "In the context of this email, I'd be only speculating what Paul was doing," Meglen said. (ABC7)

Panish then starting asking questions about other artists who have doctors who work on tours. He asked if AEG pays Celine Dion’s doctor. Meglen said Dion’s company pays her doctor. He said AEG didn’t negotiate the deal and can’t tell the doctor what’s expected of him. Panish asked about the Rolling Stones’ doctor. He gave the same answers -- that AEG didn’t hired or negotiate with the Stones’ doctor. Meglen said it’s usually the producer’s responsibility to negotiate with doctors, physical therapists, but terms are set by the artist. The executive re-iterated he wasn’t familiar with Murray’s contract, and hadn’t read Michael Jackson’s contract in detail. (AP)

Panish asked if AEG hired Celine Dion's doctor. Meglen said no. Celine's company pays her doctor. Meglen said they did not negotiate Dion's doctor's contract and cannot terminate him. Panish: Did AEG negotiate the doctor's contract for Rolling Stones? Meglen: No, it was negotiated by their tour producer. Panish asked if it's true the producer generally negotiates the contract with doctors, physical therapists, etc. Meglen: It can be producer's responsibility to hire the doctor if there is a doctor on the tour, if artist requests them to do that. In a video deposition, shown to the jury, Meglen said it's the producer's responsibility, many times. AEG Live was the producer for MJ's This Is It tour. "It can only be done with the approval of the artist," Meglen said. "You can't hire people in these positions without the artist approval." Meglen said he was told Michael wanted to bring his doctor on tour. He was not involved in negotiating the contract with Dr. Murray. Meglen said he had heard of some of the doctor's request in their executive meeting. "I don't know who was negotiating, I had simply heard the doctor requested money," Meglen said. Meglen: During one of our executive meetings, it was brought to our attention that Murray was asking for $5 million. Gongaware was the one who brought it up. Meglen said it was kind of understood the amount was excessive and it was not going to happen. (ABC7)

He said the company doesn’t hire doctors. He said the issue of Murray asking for $5 million came up in a meeting of AEG Live executives. Meglen said Gongaware reported the doctor’s request. After several questions about who was there, Meglen said he didn’t remember how many meetings that included a discussion of Murray’s fee, or if he commented on it. He said it may have come up in just one meeting. Meglen said Gongaware told the group that Jackson told him to offer Murray $150k a month, and the doctor accepted that. The executive said it’s uncommon that any artist’s doctor are discussed in the AEG Live executive meetings. He said outside of Jackson’s tour, a discussion of an artist’s doctor had probably never happened in the executives’’ meetings. (AP)

Panish asked whether AEG Live directly paid the doctors for the Stones and Dion. Meglen said not, the artists paid them. Meglen said Dion’s doctor was listed in an early budget for her shows, but he was only listed as someone paid out of her expense stipend. Dion’s company would be paid a certain amount to operate her show each week, Meglen said, and her doc would be paid from that. Meglen: “We do not hire doctors. We could advance on behalf of an artist.” (AP)

Panish: Isn't true Celine Dion's doctor is paid for out of show production budget? Meglen: I pay Celine Dion an amount of money, to which she pays the doctor out of that money. (ABC7)

Panish: You never proposed a MJ show when he was alive?
Meglen: I asked if Michael was interested in doing a Celine-type show and he said no (ABC7)

"Our policy is we do not have a deal until we have a signed contract," Meglen explained. "We do not consider a deal done until there's an executed contract," Meglen said. He said just because Murray agreed to money offer by MJ via Gongaware does not mean a deal was consummated. (ABC7)

Panish: Is it common at the executive committee to talk about the artist's doctor?
Meglen: No, that's not common
Panish asked when was the last time the committee discussed an artist's doctor.
"That probably never happened," Meglen said. (ABC7)

Only Rolling Stones and Celine Dion have had doctors on tour under AEG. "AEG did not have a contract with Celine's doctor," Meglen said. They did not negotiate the doctor's payment, could not fire the doctor. Meglen said he does not know if Dion's doctor set her schedule up. "AEG paid the per-show operating expense to CDA production who in turn paid the doctor," Meglen said aboutCeline Dion. Regarding the Rolling Stones, Meglen said the doctor worked for the band, which means worked for principals and band members. Meglen said AEG did not negotiate the contract with the doctor for the Rolling Stones. Panish: AEG give money to the Rolling Stones? Meglen: Yes . Panish asked if it was $18 million. Meglen said there was advance/other securities, doesn't know if the Rolling Stones have to pay it back. Meglen: We did not produce the Rolling Stones show, we only promoted the Rolling Stones tour. Celine Dion's doctor was on the original operation budget by AEG for her show. He was listed to be paid out of the weekly operation expense. Meglen said Dion's doctor was her responsibility to pay. "AEG does not pay doctors," Meglen said. "We do not hire doctors, we could advance on behalf of artists." I know we don't hire doctors," Meglen said. He was not involved in a day-to-day details. (ABC7)


Panish asked who would be in a better position to know AEG’s actions on Jackson’s shows, Meglen or Randy Phillips. Meglen said Phillips and Gongaware would know, but said he knew the company didn’t hire doctors. Panish asked whether Meglen had ever discussed trial testimony with Phillips or Gongaware. He said no. Meglen said the executives had discussed the case, but they were told not to discuss their respective testimony. He said he did ask Philip Anshutz how he thought the case was going when they saw each other recently. Meglen said Anshutz told him, “'I think it’s going fine. We have not presented our case yet.’” Meglen said they didn’t discuss it further. (AP)

Panish asked if Meglen spoke with Mr. Anschutz about the trial. Meglen said he asked what he thought about the trial. "I think it's going fine, we have not presented our case yet," Meglen said Anschutz responded. (ABC7)

Panish showed the picture of MJ in June 2009. Meglen: He looks skinny, he looks skinner than when I saw him. That's all. "I'm not a doctor. It's not for me to decide whether being slander is healthy or not healthy," Meglen explained. (ABC7)

Panish asked about the meeting with MJ in 2007. "I'm very proud of the assets of AEG, but I don't think I was bragging about it." Meglen said he would not go in a meeting about movies since he is not in the movie business. He said he showed the company's movie sizzle reel to MJ because he wanted to show the quality of their work. "How would I know what MJ wanted to do?" Meglen said. (ABC7)

Zusammenfassung von Ivy, MJJC #57
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Zusammenfassungen der vorangegangenen gerichtstage:
Day 1 - 50
Day 51 - zeuge Dr. Emery Brown Video Deposition; zeuge Peter Formuzis
Day 52 - zeugin Katherine Jackson
Day 53 - zeugin K. Jackson; AEG-zeuge John Meglen

Exklusiv transcripts eröffnungsstatements u.a. (MJJC #1 ff.)
Zeugenaussage von Prince Michael Jackson Jr.; exklusiv transcripts von MJJC # 7
Deposition transcripts filed with the court.
Note : these are not the full depositions, they are only the portions played in the court.
Dr. Stuart Finkelstein Deposition video transcript
Dr. Earley Deposition video transcript
Tim Leiweke Deposition video transcript
Randy Phillips Deposition video transcript
Quelle Ivy, MJJC #50