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AEG exec feared Michael Jackson would sabotage his comeback tour

Führungskräfte von AEG glaubten, MJ würde seine Comeback Tour sabotieren

Los Angeles (CNN) -- AEG Live executives feared Michael Jackson would sabotage his comeback concerts five days before his death, the company's CEO testified Thursday.

Randy Phillips refused to advance money to help Jackson pay his staff because he believed the singer was "in an anticipatory breach" of his contract because he had missed rehearsals, he testified.

Randy Phillips weigerte sich, Jackson Geld vorzulegen um sein Personal zu zahlen, weil er glaubte, der Sänger wäre dabei, seinen Vertrag zu brechen, weil er Proben versäumt habe.

Phillips testified in the sixth week of the trial to decide whether the concert promoter is liable in Jackson's death for the negligent hiring, retention or supervision of Dr. Conrad Murray, who was convicted of involuntary manslaughter.
The lawsuit filed by Jackson's mother and children contends that Phillips and other AEG Live executives pressured Jackson to attend rehearsals despite his deteriorating health and ignored red flags that should have warned them about the dangers posed by Murray.

Jackson lawyers questioned Phillips about his e-mail exchanges with Michael Kane -- Jackson's business manager -- when Kane asked for an advance, which was provided for in Jackson's contract with AEG Live for his "This is it" tour.

Jacksons Anwälte fragten Phillips über seinen Email Austausch mit Michael Kane – Jacksons Business Manager – als Kane nach einem Vorschuss fragte, der in Jacksons Vertrag mit AEG vorgesehen war.

Phillips said he was concerned that because Jackson had missed so many rehearsals, the show would not be ready for its debut in London on July 13, 2009.
"This is Why it is impossible to advance any $$$," Phillips wrote to Kane on June 20, 2009. "He may, unfortunately, be in an anticipatory breach at this point."
"And I thought it couldn't get worse," Kane replied.
"It could," Phillips said. "(Show director) Kenny Ortega could quit."

Philips sagte, er war besorgt weil Mj so viele Proben verpasst habe, wäre die Show nicht rechtzeitig zum Debut in London am 13 Juli fertig.
„Deshalb ist es nicht möglich, $$$ vorzulegen,“ schrieb Phillips an Kane am 20 Juni 09. „Er könnte leider dabei sein, seinen Vertrag zu brechen.“
„Und ich dachte, es könnte nicht mehr schlimmer kommen.“ schrieb Kane.
„Es kann,“ antwortete Phillips, „ Showdirektor Ortega könnte kündigen.“

Phillips' testimony that he believed Jackson was contractually obligated to attend rehearsals contradicted AEG Live Co-CEO Paul Gongware's previous testimony that Jackson was not required to rehearse.
Phillips acknowledged that by June 20, 2009, he was worried the production would not be ready on time
Kane, in an e-mail to Phillips, offered to help motivate Jackson to get to rehearsals. "Would a financial coming to Jesus speech help or add to his pressure?" Kane asked.
"It would help," Phillips replied. "At this point, we need to break through. I'm going to call his doctor to discuss."

Phillips Aussage, dass er glaubte, Jackson sei vertraglich zu den Proben verpflichtet wieder spricht sich mit Aussagen von Gongaware, dass Jackson nicht verpflichtet war, zu proben.
Phillips sagt, am 20 Juni hätte er sich Sorgen gemacht,das die Produktion nicht rechtzeitig fertig sein würde.
Kane bot in einer Mail an Phillips Hilfe an, um Jackson zu der Teilnahme an den Proben zu motivieren: „Würde ein Finanzgespräch (in dem man zu Sache kommt) helfen, oder noch mehr Druck ausüben?“ fragte Kane.
„Es würde helfen,“ antwortete Philips, „unter diesen Umständen müssen wir durchbrechen. Ich werde seinen Arzt anrufen um es zu besprechen.“

Later that day, Phillips and other AEG Live executives met with Murray and Jackson at the singer's home. The Jackson lawyers contend at that meeting they put Murray in charge of having Jackson at rehearsals.

Später an diesem Tag, trafen sich Phillips und andere AEG Leute mit Murray und Jackson. Die Jackson Anwälte sagen, dass sie in diesem Treffen Murray dafür verantwortlich machten, dass Jackson zu den Proben komme.

AEG Live lawyers claim the company executives had no way of knowing that Murray was giving Jackson nightly infusions of the surgical anesthetic propofol to treat his insomnia.

The Los Angeles County coroner ruled that Jackson died from an overdose of propofol on June 25, 2009.

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There no trial tomorrow and Randy Phillips resumes testifying on Monday at 9:30 am PT. Hope to see you then! Have a great weekend!
Morgen kein Prozess, es geht weiter am Montag.
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Phillips said the meeting with the doctor was at the request of Frank DiLeo.
Phillips sagte, das Treffen mit dem Arzt auf Antrag von Frank DiLeo war.
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Kane asked Phillips in an email on June 20: "Would a financial coming to Jesus speech help or add to his pressure?"
Kane fragte Phillips in einer E-Mail am 20. Juni: "Würde ein Finanzier zu Jesus kommen und sagen helfe oder füge es zu seinem Druck hinzu?"
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Panish quickly responded "I haven't made 50 of them" to which Phillips said "I don't know, I haven't watched the entire trial."
Panisch reagierte schnell: "Ich habe nicht 50 von ihnen gemacht", worauf Phillips sagte: "Ich weiß es nicht, ich habe nicht den gesamten Prozess verfolgt."
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Panish made a mistake in one exhibit and Phillips reacted immediately. "See, we all make mistakes," Phillips said.
Panish macht einen Fehler bei einem Beweisstück und Phillips reagierte sofort. "Sehen Sie, wir alle machen Fehler", sagte Phillips.
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"I think he needed both, so in this case I'm not sure he meant therapist or psychiatrist," Phillips said.
"Ich denke er brauchte beides, so in diesem Fall ich bin nicht sicher ob er Therapeut oder Psychologe" meinte sagt PhillpsExpand
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Panish talked about the email Ortega sent saying MJ needed a strong therapist and immediate physical nurturing.
Panish sprach über ein Mail von Ortega sagend MJ benötige einen starken Therapeuten und augenbliche phhys. Betreuung.Expand
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"AEG Live would've survived it (show) not happened," Phillips said. He agreed that part of his concern was that AEG Live would look bad.
"AEG Live hätte überlebt, wenn die Show nicht passierte" sagt Philips. Er stimmte zu er hatte Besorgnis, dass AEG schlecht aussehen würde.Expand
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Phillips would not advance any more money to MJ on June 20th because Michael may had been in breach of contract already, Phillips testified.
Phillips würde kein weiteres Geld mehr an MJ vorschießen am 20. Juni weil Michael beim Brechen des Vertrages bereits wäre, sagte Phillips.Expand
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If MJ said he didn't need to go to rehearsals, he could've been in breach of this contract, Phillips said.
"Wenn MJ sagt er braucht nicht zu den Proben zu gehen, könne er seinen Vertrag brechen", sagt Phillips.Expand
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"I felt Michael had that obligation, yes," Phillips said about MJ needing to be at rehearsals.
"Ich fühlte MJ hat die Verpflichtung, ja", sagt Philips darüber das MJ zu den Proben benötigt wirdExpand
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"Required is a little too strong, I was concerned that if he didn't go to rehearsal Kenny could not finish the production," Phillips said.
"Voraussetzung ist ein wenig zu stark, ich war besorgt, dass, wenn er nicht zur Probe kam könne Kenny nicht die Produktion beenden", sagte Phillips.
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Phillips said if MJ's lack of appearance caused production to not complete, show not open in London, MJ could be in breach of his contract.

Phillips sagte, wenn MJs Abwesen verursachte das Produktionen nicht abgeschlossen werden können um die Show in London nicht eröfnen könnte würde MJ in Verletzung seines Vertrages sein.
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None of our agreements have artist need to rehearse, Phillips said, but the artists want to perfect their show, he said.

Keiner unserer Verträge sagt Künstler müssen proben, sagt Phillips, sagte aber die Künstler wollen ihre Show perfektionieren, sagte er.
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Panish: You anticipated MJ would breach the contract by not showing up to rehearsal
Panisch: Sie erwarteten MJ würde den Vertrag brechen mit dem Nicht-Erscheinen bei den Proben Phillips: YesExpand
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"He (Kane) asked for a million dollars to pay for Mr. Jackson's bills," Phillips testified.
"Er (Kane) fragte für eine Million Dollar für Mr. Jacksons Rechnungen zu bezahlen", sagte PhillipsExpand
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It was response to Phillips' email
E-Mail-Antwort Phillips
"This is y it's impossible 2 advance any $. He may unfortunately be in anticipitory breach at this point"
"Es ist es unmöglich weiteres Geld vorzustrecken. Er mag unglücklicherweise bereits beim Brechen des Vertrages sein"

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Michael Kane was MJ's business manager. On 6/20, he responded to Phillips saying "And I thought it couldn't get worse."
Michael Kane war MJs Business Manager. Am 20.06, reagierte er auf Phillips Mail und sagte "Und ich dachte, es könnte nicht schlimmer werden."
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Panish: Did you ever do anything?
Panish: Haben Sie jemals etwas gemacht?Phillips: Only the meeting on the 20th
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Panish: Did Mr. Branca ever tell you who the psychiatrist was?
Panish: Hat Mr. Branca Ihnen gesagt wer der Psychiater/Berater ist?Phillips: No
BP: Did you ask him for the name?
Panish: Haben Sie nach seinem Namen gefragt?
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Some jurors shook their heads when Phillips and Panish argued with each other and judge intervened.

Einige Juroren schüttelten ihre Köpfe, wenn Phillips und Panish miteinander stritten und Richter griff ein.
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The email does not name who the doctor is, but Phillips testified shortly ago that he remembered a name. He said he was wrong about it.
Die E-Mail nannte nicht den Arzt , aber Phillips sagte kurz vorher, dass er sich an einen Namen erinnerte. Er sagte, er sei falsch dann.Expand
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Branca responded to the email from Phillips saying he had the right therapist/spiritual advisor.
Branca antwortete auf die E-Mail von Phillips und sagte, er habe den richtigen Therapeuten / Seelsorger.
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Panish asked if Phillips ever told Ortega it was not his job to question MJ's health/doctor care. He replied no.
Panish fragte Phillps ob er jemals Ortega sagte nicht MJs Gesundheit/Azrt in Frage zu stellen. Er sagte nein
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Phillips testified he never said he was going to pull the plug on the show and never threatened MJ with pulling the plug.
Phillips bezeugte er habe nie gesagt, er würde den Stecker auf der Show ziehen und nie bedroht MJ mit Ziehen des Steckers.

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Phillips testified he didn't contact any psychologist or psychiatrist after Bugzee and Ortega said MJ should be checked out by one of them.
Philps sagte aus das er nicht zu einen Psychologen oder Psychotherapueten Kontakt aufnahm nachdem Bugzee und Ortega sagten er solle überprüft werden von einem.Expand
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"I'm not responsible for Michael's health, he's an adult, he had a personal doctor," Phillips said.
"Ich bin nicht verantwortlich ür Michaels Gesundheit, er hatte einen persönl. Arzt" sagt Philipps.Expand
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Phillips testified today he agreed with what Kenny said. In his deposition, Phillips said he didn't recall.
Phillips sagte heute er stimme überein mit dem was Kenny sagte. In seiner Depostion sagte Phillips er können sich nicht erinnern.
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Ortega then sent another email to Randy, saying he believed MJ needed to be psychologically evaluated.
Ortega schickte dann eine weitere E-Mail an Randy u. sagte, dass er glaubte, MJ benötige psychologische BetreuungExpand
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Panish went thru 5 different answers Phillips gave as explanation for this email, from not knowing what chemical means to possible drug reax
Panish ging durch 5 verschiedene Antworten Phillips als Erklärung für diese E-Mail, von nicht zu wissen was chemisch bedeutet zu möglichen Wechselwirkungen mit MedikamentenExpand
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Phillips answered the email saying he was not sure what MJ's problem was, chemical or physiological.
Phillips beantwortete die E-Mail indem stand, er ist sich nicht sicher, was das Problem von MJ ist, chemisch oder physiologisch.

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Phillips received another email from Bugzee saying MJ was shaking and couldn't eat, Ortega had to cut his food, feed him.
Phillips erhielt eine weitere E-Mail von Bugzee sagte das MJ zitterte und nicht essen konnte, Ortega seine Nahrung klein schnitt um ihn zu füttern.
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Phillips then forwarded the email chain to John Branca, Joel Katz, Tim Leiweke (his boss), adding "Unfortunately we are running out of time"

Phillips leitete die E-Mail weiter an John Branca, Joel Katz, Tim Leiweke (sein Chef), fügte hinzu: "Leider geht uns die Zeit aus"

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"The word deteriorate may not be what happened. I didn't know what was going on until we had the meeting," Phillips said.
"Das Wort verschlechtern mag nicht sein, was passiert ist. Ich wusste nicht, was los war, bis wir das Treffen hatten", sagte Phillips
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Panish: It shows someone's physical condition deteriorated, right?
Phillips: It shows that there's a problem, yes

Panish: Es zeigt jemand dessen körperlicher Zustand sich verschlechtert, nicht wahr?
Phillips: Es zeigt, dass es ein Problem gibt, ja
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"I know what he said, but until we had the meeting I didn't know what was going on," Phillips said.
"Ich weiß, was er sagte, aber bis wir das Treffen hatten wusste ich nicht , was los war", sagte Phillips.
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Panish asked what Bugzee said about the 360 turns: "He was telling me MJ couldn't do a 360 spin."

Panish fragte, was Bugzee sagte über die 360Grad-Drehungen: ". Er erzählte mir MJ können keine 360 Spins machen"
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"That's what he wrote, I'm not sure exactly what he meant," Philips said.
"Das ist das was er schrieb, ich bin nicht sicher was er exakt meinte", sagt PhilipsExpand
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Bugzee replied back to Phillips that MJ needed a shrink and trainer, deteriorated in front of his eyes for eight weeks.
Bugzee antwortete zurück zu Phillips, dass MJ einen Seelenarzt und Trainer benötige, sich vor seinen Augen seit acht Wochen verschlechtert hat.
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The meeting Tim asked didn't happen that day, Phillips explained. But there was a meeting in the afternoon of June 20th, he said.

Das Treffen nach dem Tim fragte sei nicht geschehen an jenem Tag, erklärte Phillips. Aber es gab eine Sitzung am Nachmittag des 20. Juni, sagte er.
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Phillips said he forwarded the email to Ortega and asked him to set up the meeting. Ortega responded yes to the email next morning.

Phillips sagte, er leitete die E-Mail an Ortega weiter und bat ihn zum Arrangieren der Sitzung. Ortega reagierte ja auf die E-Mail am nächsten Morgen.
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Just over four minutes later, Leiweke responded the email asking for a meeting between him, MJ, Phillips and Kenny Ortega.

Nur vier Minuten später reagierte Leiweke auf die E-Mail, fragt nach einem Treffen zwischen ihm, MJ, Phillips und Kenny Ortega.
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Within 19 mins of receiving Bugzee's email on the evening of Jun 19, Phillips forwarded Bugzee's email adding "We have a real problem here."
Innerhalb 19 Minuten nach Erhalt von Bugzee E-Mail am Abend des 19. Juni, hat Phillips Bugzee E-Mail weitergeleitet und hinzugefügt: "Wir haben hier ein echtes Problem."

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Tim Leiweke was Phillips' boss at the time.
Tim Leiweke war Phillips 'Chef zu der Zeit.

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Panish showed video of Phillips' deposition where said he didn't remember how he reacted when the received the email.
Panish zeigte Videos von Phillips 'Depsoition, wo ersich nicht erinnern konnte, wie er reagierte, als er die empfangene E-Mail erhielt.


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Panish asked if Phillips remembered his reaction after receiving this email. "Yes, yes. Concerned," Philips responded.
Panish befragt Phillips ob er sich an seine Reaktion nach Erhalt dieser E-Mail erinnert"Ja, ja. Besorgt" sagt Philips..


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Panish: Did Mr. Jackson have a problem on June 20th?
Philips: Absolutely

Panisch: Hatte Mr. Jackson ein Problmen am 20. Juni?
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What changed from your deposition and today? Nothing, absolutely nothing, just that I'm very prepared, Phillips answered.
Was hat sich geändert seit der Deposition und heute? Nichts, absolut, nichts,nur das ich sehr vorbereitet bin, antwortet Phillips.

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Panish: You are not a drama queen, right?
Phillips: Sometimes

Panish: Sie sind keine Dramaqueen, richtig?Phillips: Manchmal

"Yes, I'm under oath," Phillips joked about having to tell the truth.
"Ja, ich bin unter Eid", sagt Phillps scherzend darüber das er die Wahrheit sagen muss
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"Since the deposition, my memory had gotten better because I was given documents and tried to remember what happened," Phillips testified.
"Seit der Depostion wurde mein Gedächtnis besser, weil ich Dokumente bekam und versuchte mich zu erinnern, was passiert ist", sagte Phillips.

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"I don't want to argue with you either, I don't think it's fair to the jurors," Phillips told Panish after a short exchange between them.
"Ich will nicht wieder mit Ihnen streiten, ich glaube nicht, es ist fair zu den Juroren," sagte Phillips nach einem kurzen Austausch mit Panisch.

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"I think I read this email before I went to bed on 6/19," Phillips said. Panish pointed at deposition Phillips said he read it after sunrise
"Ich glaube, ich habe diese E-Mail gelesen bevor ich am 19.06 ins Bett ging", sagte Phillips. Bei der Depositon sagte er , er las es nach Sonnenaufgang"
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Next Panish referred to the email with the subject "Trouble at the Front" from Bugzee saying MJ went home without stepping foot on stage.
Als nächstes geht Panisch zu der E-Mail mit dem Betreff "Trouble at the Front" mit dem Bezug MJ ging nach Hause, ohne einen Fuß auf die Bühne zu machen.

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"Most of the artists we don't deal with their personal physician," Phillips explained.
"Bei den meisten Künstlern haben wir nichts mit ihrem persönlichen Arzt zu tun ",Expand
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Panish: Do you normally carry around all the contact numbers of your artist's personal physicians?
Phillips: Absolutely not!

Panish: Tragen Sie in der Regel all die Telefonnummern des Arztes eines Künstlers mit sich herum
Phillips: Absolut nicht!

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Panish went thru some of the calls Phillips made. On 6/18/09, Gongaware sent an email to Phillips with all of Dr. Murray's phone numbers.
Panish ging durch einige der Telefonate, die Philpps machte. Am 18.06.09 sendete Gongaware ein E-Mail an Phillips mit Dr, Murrays Telefonnummern
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Panish asked Phillips who subpoenaed his phone records. The exec confirmed it was LAPD.
Panish fragte Phillips, der sein Telefonauflistungen wiedergab. Die exec bestätigt es war das LAPD.
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Neither Katherine Jackson nor any family members attend trial today. No one talked about Paris Jackson.
Weder Katherine Jackson noch irgendwelche Familienmitglieder sind beim Prozess. Niemand sprach über Paris Jackson.

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Day 25 in trial of Jackson family vs AEG wrapped up. AEG's Randy Phillips resumed testimony. Jackson's attorney Brian Panish questioned him

Tag 25 im Prozess Jackson-Familie vs AEG. AEGs Randy Phillips wieder Zeugenstand. Jacksons Anwalt Brian Panish befragte ihn
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Hello from the courthouse in downtown LA. We only had session in the afternoon today, since a juror had a graduation to attend.

Aussage von Mittwoch kann man hier nachlesen Post 102 und 101
http://www.mjjackson-forever.com/ind...747#post227747

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The Jacksons vs. AEG Live – Zeugen der Jacksons, 15. Teil

5. Juni 2013

Wie erwartet ging’s am Montag weiter mit co-CEO Paul Gongaware. Angeblich jedoch gab es nicht wirklich etwas Neues zu berichten. Entsprechend kurz war der Bericht der LA Times. Gongaware sagte aus, dass AEG noch nie von Conrad Murray gehört hatte, als Michael Jackson auf sie zukam und darauf bestand, dass ihn dieser als sein persönlicher Arzt nach London begleiten solle. Als Gongaware im April 2009 vorschlug, einen Londoner Arzt anzustellen, der vor Ort und entsprechend günstiger sei, lehnte Michael dies ab. Gongaware sagte aus, dass Michael ihm damals gesagt hatte: “Das ist die Maschine. Wir müssen der Maschine Sorge tragen.” “Ich glaube, was er meinte, war, dass sein Gehirn die Show kreieren konnte, aber sein Körper musste jeden Abend top fit sei für die Show”, so Gongaware. Kurz danach rief Gongaware Murray an, um ihm zu sagen Michael wolle ihn nach London mitnehmen. Murray habe keine Fragen gestellt und sie gingen umgehend dazu über, über das Gehalt zu sprechen. Als Gongaware Murray fragte, wieviel er für den Job wolle, sagte dieser, er brauche USD 5 Mio., da er seine Arztpraxen in Houston, Las Vegas und San Diego für den betreffenden Zeitraum schliessen und Leute entlassen müsse. Als AEG Anwalt Marvin Putnam Gongaware fragte, ob er der Meinung gewesen sei, dass diese Summe vernünftig war, antwortete Gongaware, “Es war lächerlich… Michael konnte es sich nicht leisten und so musste ich [Murray] sagen, dass das nicht drin liegt”. Am Ende war Murray, wie wir wissen, mit USD 150’000 pro Monat einverstanden.

In einer persönlichen Sache möchte ich Euch an dieser Stelle kurz mitteilen, dass ich nun eine Woche weg sein werde. Wir lassen Euch aber nicht im Stich. Ueli wird mich in dieser Zeit bei der Prozessberichterstattung würdig vertreten – nebst dem, dass er im Moment auch noch die volle Coverage der sonstigen News macht. Vielen Dank, Ueli, und ich freu mich, Euch nach meiner Rückkehr wieder auf dem Laufenden zu halten. Sind wir mal gespannt, wie’s weiter geht. Insgesamt wird ja angenommen, dass der Prozess bis zu drei Monate dauern könnte.

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Jacksons vs AEG - Day 22 – June 3 2013 – Summary

No Jackson family member was at the courthouse.


Paul Gongaware

AEG cross

Putnam asked Gongaware if MJ was comfortable with all the show dates. "Yes, I went through all of the dates with him," Gongaware said. Bugzee, the tour manager, had big calendar on the walls, Gongaware explained, saying they changed the dates of the shows four times. As to the email about changing coloring on calendar so it didn't look MJ was working too hard Putnam asked if he was trying to fool MJ. "No, I was trying to make it clear, trying to get it just the way I wanted it," Gongaware responded. (ABC7) The jury was shown an email in which Gongaware worked with a staffer to create a calendar to show Jackson. He wanted colors changed. He wanted the calendar to be changed so that it reflected Jackson's show dates and off days differently. Gongaware email: “Figure it out so it looks like he’s not working so much.” He told jury Jackson was comfortable with the show schedule. (AP)

After changing 4 show dates Gongaware said MJ was comfortable with it. He would do 8 shows in July, 10 in August, 9 in September. There would be no shows in October, November and December, resuming with 10 shows in January, 10 in February and three in March. Gongaware said the O2 Arena had previous commitment in Oct-Dec of 2009 and they could not have the MJ's concerts. (ABC7) In July 2009 there were 8 shows scheduled, 10 in August and 9 in September. Then they’d take rest of ’09 off. In Jan. and February of 2010, there were 10 shows planned per month. Three were planned in March 2010. No back-to-back shows. Gongaware said this wasn’t a rigorous schedule since there would be no traveling. On “HIStory” tour, he said they did 10-12 shows per month (AP)

Putnam: Was this a rigorous schedule? Gongaware: No, not at all. Gongaware recalled that on the HIStory tour they did 10-12 shows per month, from country to country, but this one would stay in London only. Gongaware said he wasn't concerned with MJ's age. "He seemed great to me," he said, and this was stationary show, didn't have to travel. (ABC7)

Gongaware: The reason MJ wanted to delay the 1st show was he wanted more time to rehearse in the O2 Arena where the show would take place. Gongaware said MJ and Kenny Ortega would decide the rehearsal schedule. Gongaware explained MJ didn't have to attend rehearsals, since it was not part of his deal. He said they never require an artist to rehearse. "I didn't have any expectation," Gongaware said regarding MJ rehearsing.(ABC7) Gongaware said there wasn’t a requirement for Jackson to rehearse. Said he’s never seen a requirement for musicial artist to rehearse. (AP) He said that during the HIStory tour, MJ didn't rehearse, nailed it. "When it was game time, he would show up," Gongaware explained. (ABC7) For instance, Gongaware cited an outdoor concert in Bangkok in in high heat, humidity. “He nailed it,” he said of Jackson. Gongaware: “When it was kind of game time, he was going to show up,” he said of Jackson's London shows. (AP)

As to the email Gongaware wrote about calling MJ lazy, he said he used unfortunate choices of words, Michael didn't like to rehearse. (ABC7)

Putnam: Why weren't you concerned? Gongaware: When the house lights would go up, he would show up (ABC7)

Talking about the elements of the show, Gongaware described what they wanted to do for the opening of the show. He said Michael would be dressed up in a LED suit, like a television, flashing on him brief movie about things that happened in history. Michael would be lower down onto the stage, Gongaware described. He called the LED suit a "Moon man" suit, but Ortega called it "Light man." Putnam showed a presentation of how the LED suit idea would work. Footage is not on TII documentary because it was early stages of prep. Gongaware said 1st idea was to make MJ float from the audience, but they couldn't make it work. So they decided to lower him down on stage. Gongaware said the big screen on the back of the stage was 3D capable. The audience would be given glasses when they entered the show. The 3D songs would be Thriller, Earth Song and Smooth Criminal. Email from Ortega to Gongaware saying MJ had big dreams for the shows. "He wanted to do biggest, best show ever, live show," Gongaware said. (ABC7)

Putnam showed email chain from Ortega to Gongaware asking to make a deal with choreographer Travis Payne. Answer from Gongaware: This is not AEG money, it's MJ's money so it takes a lot of time to get approvals. (ABC7)

Defendants were trying to establish a pattern that all the money spent was actually MJ's money, not AEG's, just like with Dr. Murray. (ABC7)

At one point Gongaware said he learned from MJ about doctor named Murray. "He came to me and said he wanted his personal doctor on the tour". Gongaware said he suggested to Michael to get a licensed doctor in London who would know the lay of the land, in case of need. "This is the machine, we have to take care of the machine. I want Conrad," Gongaware said Michael responded. (ABC7) “He came up to me and said he wanted to take Dr. Murray to London as his personal physician,” Paul Gongaware testified. When Gongaware suggested during the late April 2009 conversation it would be easier and cheaper to use an English doctor, Jackson vetoed the idea. Gongaware said Jackson told him, "'This is the machine. We have to take care of the machine.' I think what he meant was his brain could create it but his body had to deliver the show every night.” (LATimes)

Putnam: Were you surprised he wanted to take his doctor on tour? Gongaware: No P: Why not? G: He had doctors before. Gongaware said other artists take doctors as well, so he was not the only one and it didn't surprise him. Gongaware said he's been on tour before where an artist had chiropractors, but couldn't remember being in one with a doctor. (ABC7)

Putnam: Did you worry MJ might have a health issue? Gongaware: No P: Why not? G: He seemed fine to me, had a physical and passed. (ABC7)

Gongaware said the suggestion for London doctor was due to the cost; paying doctor full time was much more expensive than hiring local doctor. As to MJ asking to take care of the machine, Gongaware said he understood it to be that every night MJ would have to do be ready to perform. Gongaware said Dr. Murray treated MJ for about three years before 2009. He knew the doctor was from Las Vegas but said he was in LA. Gongaware said he then called Dr. Murray to work out a deal. Gongaware testified he didn't have MJ's direct phone number, would go through Michael Amir Williams, MJ's personal assistant, to reach him. Gongaware called Murray on behalf of MJ saying singer wanted to take him to London. "What do you want to be paid for that," Gongaware asked. Gongaware said he thought Dr. Murray was expecting his call and was aware of MJ's desire to take him on tour. "He said he would need $5 million," Gongaware recalled. "He said he has 4 clinics to close, would lay off people, need $5 million for that." "It was ridiculous," Gongaware said about the amount asked. "It was a lot of money for something like that and Michael could not afford it." Gongaware said he responded that it wasn't going to work. (ABC7) “I asked him what he wanted." Gongaware testified. "He said he’d need $5 million." Murray told Gongaware that he'd have to shut down his clinics in Houston, Las Vegas and San Diego and lay people off. Asked by AEG attorney Marvin Putnam if Murray's price was reasonable, Gongaware replied, “It was ridiculous… Michael couldn’t afford it, so I had to tell him it wasn’t going to work.” (LATimes) He said this was the first time he spoke with Dr. Murray. After that, Gongaware said he told Michael Amir and Randy Phillips what the doctor had asked. He also told Frank DiLeo. Putnam: Would you be doing this if Michael had not asked you? Gongaware: No . (ABC7)

Putnam: Did you contemplate bringing a doctor on tour? Gongaware: I didn't think he needed one, we didn't have one in History, he was fine. (ABC7)

Gongaware said he called Michael Amir Williams to report back to MJ what the doctor had asked to go on tour. "We couldn't afford it," Gongaware said. He spoke with Phillips and called Frank DiLeo, MJ's manager at the time. Gongaware said a lot of people who wanted to work for MJ asked for huge sums of money, thinking he had a lot. (ABC7)

"He was Michael's doctor, Michael wanted him. That was it," Gongaware said. (ABC7)

Putnam: Did you think about checking the doctor?
Gongaware: No
P: Why not?
G: He was Michael's doctor (ABC7)

" I'm not going to tell Michael Jackson who his doctor should be," Gongaware explained. (ABC7) "It wasn't my place to say who his doctor was going to be," Gongaware said. "It was his decision." (AP)

Gongaware said he doesn't think a doctor's financial situation has anything to do with being an ethical doctor. Gongaware said it never crossed his mind to either do a background check on Dr. Murray or to suggest to anyone to do it. "I just expect doctors to be ethical, the financial side of their lives shouldn't have impact on their medical decision," Gongaware opined. (ABC7) Paul Gongaware testified that he didn't think it was necessary to conduct background checks on anyone working closely with Jackson. He said in Conrad Murray's case, he wasn't concerned about his background because he'd been recommended by the entertainer. "I just expect doctors to be ethical," Gongaware said. "Their financial side of their life shouldn't affect their medical judgment." (AP)

Gongaware said he never did background check on anyone he hired and had he done one on Dr. Murray, it would've been out of the ordinary. (ABC7)

He also said he never considered performing background checks on Jackson's makeup artist, a choreographer who worked one-on-one with the singer or Kenny Ortega, the tour's director. "I didn't see the need for it," he said. (AP)

As how MJ was, Gongaware said he was great. He didn't think he had relapsed, was using painkillers again and said MJ had always been thin. "It wasn't surprising he wanted a doctor," Gongaware expressed. (ABC7)

Dr. Finkelstein, a friend of Gongaware, said a doctor should charge $10,000 a month for the tour work. But Dr. Finkelstein would've done it for free, since he was on the Dangerous tour before and had a lot of fun.(ABC7)

The second call about Dr. Murray came from Michael Amir Williams saying they were going to need to get a deal done for the doctor. Gongaware said he heard MJ in the car saying "offer 150, offer 150." Gongaware understood that to be $150k/month. Gongaware called Dr. Murray, said he was authorized to offer him $150k a month. He said Dr. Murray responded that he couldn't do it for that. Gongaware told him the offer came directly from the artist and Dr. Murray responded: I'll take it. Gongaware said Michael approved the amount of compensation. "Michael told me offer 150," Gongaware recalled. "And that's what I did." Gongaware inquired Dr. Murray how he would get a license in London and the doctor told him not to worry about it. They talked about Dr. Murray's request for a house in London, and the doctor said he would need a three bedroom house. Gongaware recalled Dr. Murray saying he would probably need an assistant and some equipment, but no details were given at this point. After the call, Gongaware said he let Michael Amir Williams know what the result was in an email. "Done at 150k per month, per MJ." Gongaware said this was a message for MJ, that he had done what he asked. He didn't receive any response back from Michael Amir Williams. (ABC7) Gongaware wrote a May 6, 2009, email to Jackson's assistant after cutting the deal with Murray: “done at $150k per month, per MJ. He needs about 10 days to wind down his practice then he will be full time.” Gongaware said the email was a message to Jackson "that I had done what he asked." (LAtimes)

Asked why he had negotiated with Murray, the AEG executive replied that he was "instructed to by Michael Jackson." Gongaware said there was no other reason for him to deal with the doctor. Marvin Putnam asked Gongaware why he didn't tell Jackson he couldn't take Murray on tour with him."Because he could if he wanted," Gongaware said. (LAtimes)

Gongaware said he passed Dr. Murray on to Timm Wooley, never had any other conversation with Dr. Murray about him possibly going to London. Putnam: Do you have any understanding as to whether a contract with Dr. Murray was executed?
Gongaware: One never was
Putnam: Did AEG pay Dr. Murray any kind of money?
Gongaware: No (ABC7)

Gongaware said MJ was ultimately responsible for his own health: "I think everyone is responsible for their own health and well being." MJ was a grown man with capability to make decisions regarding his health and medical care, Gongaware explained. (ABC7)

Putnam showed Gongaware a frame from “This Is It” film in which Jackson’s manager, Frank Dileo, was sitting in on dancer auditions. (AP) Dancers auditions took place at the Nokia Theater on April 13, 14, 15. MJ attended the last day and made the final decision, Gongaware said. Putnam played a clip of the dancers audition. Gongaware said MJ was very involved and chose the dancers. Gongaware said Ortega wanted to film the audition to use fresh footage on http://michaeljacksonlive.com. The cost for crew to shoot the audition was very high, so Gongaware bought couple of cameras and use his own crew to shoot the rehearsals. He said he wasn't sure what he would use the video for, but thought the website would be a good platform. (ABC7)

Gongaware said during the period at Center Staging, MJ was good, engaging, didn't think MJ had any health issues or was using drugs. (ABC7)

Gongaware said the media in the UK was going wild with gossip about Michael Jackson. "They just lie about things.". The Sun claimed MJ had skin cancer on his chest. "It was sport over in London," Gongaware said about MJ's stories on tabloids.(ABC7) Gongaware testified about emails in which UK press agents working on “This Is It” sent him tabloid reports on MJ’s health. Gongaware said he urged the press agents not to respond. He wanted Jackson’s performance to speak for itself & silence skeptics. (AP)

Gongaware was shown emails he was sent less than a month before Jackson's death in which tabloid newspapers were speculating the singer was suffering from cancer.
Gongaware urged his company not to respond. "Our redemption will be when he does his shows," he wrote about Jackson. "We don't have to sell tickets, so we can just sit back and prove them wrong by just doing it." (AP)

Gongaware on 5/27/09:
The Kid is healthy and rehearsing every day. He was still there at dance rehearsals at 9pm last night when I left. Our redemption will be when he does his shows, that makes all of this build up so damn sweet. We don't have to sell tickets, so we can just sit back and prove them wrong by just doing it. (ABC7)

Gongaware said he was not concerned. "If there was something going on, if he had cancer, we would've heard about it." He said if the rumor about the cancer were true, they would've to deal with a lot to accommodate the shows. Gongaware said while they were rehearsing at Center Staging, he was not concerned with MJ's health. (ABC7)

Michael Jackson rehearsal venues: Mar 28- Center Staging, May 27- Forum ,June 23 - Staples Center , July 13 - O2 Arena (ABC7)

Putnam also asked Gongaware about an incident Karen Faye testified about, that she heard PG yelling at MJ's assistant one day. The incident occurred while "This Is It" rehearsals were happening at The Forum in LA. Faye claimed she heard Gongaware yelling about Jackson being late to a rehearsal and told his assistant to get him there. "Never, never happened," Gongaware said, shaking his head. (AP) Gongaware said he never told security guard to get MJ to rehearsals, whatever it takes. He said he never told anyone to get MJ 2 rehearsals. (ABC7)

Putnam went through chain of email about tabloid reports in the UK regarding MJ. In one, it said MJ had asked AEG to reduce the number of shows by half. Gongaware said that such a discussion never happened. Gongaware testified he woke up to one gossip headline pretty much every day. His idea was simply to ignore the tabloids. An amazing show would be the answer, Gongaware said. (ABC7)

Gongaware: “With MJ we don’t’ have to react to the press. We can decide what we want to do and then do it.” His email continued laying out his strategy: “We can only make this work, of course, if MJ puts on the best show of his life.” Gongaware: “I’m here to tell you that he will. I have seen it for myself,” he said of Jackson's performances. He described a rehearsal in which MJ performed 9 songs. Gongaware: “He was amazing, captivating, riveting. And he’s just getting started.” (AP)

Gongaware on 6/5/09 in response to Sunday Mirror Query: "We can only make this work, of course, if MJ puts on the best show of his life. I'm here to tell you that be will. I have seen it for myself. Last night he ran 9 songs with full band, singers and dancers. Sang every one, he was amazing, captivating, riveting. And he's just getting started. Taking it one step further. When people realize that bulls**t the press has been, they will be in receptive mood for the truth Hey look. No skin cancer. He's just a good dad, loving raising his kids. His art and his craft are paramount. Email cont'd: A gentile, loving man who does care about people. (ABC7)

"The shows were going to be spectacular," Gongaware said. Putnam showed clip of MJ in front of green screen with 11 dancers, who would become 11,000. Gongaware said MJ was great at this point. (ABC7)

Gongaware was shown some “This Is It” film footage. He denied any footage was taken out or altered. He was asked about CEO Randy Phillips’ email where he described Jackson in a red leather jacket and looking like a skeleton. Clip from “Thriller” mini-movie shoot for “This Is It” was played for jury, and Jackson was there, wearing red leather jacket. He denied that “This Is It” feature film presented a skewed vision of Michael Jackson. (AP)

Regarding email Phillips sent Gongaware directing to remove MJ's "skeletal" scenes Gongaware said he didn't take anything out of the movie.
Putnam: Did you remove anything from the movie?
Gongaware: No (ABC7)

Putnam showed clip from TII with making of Thriller 3D and Jackson wearing red jacket.
Putnam: Did you try to alter in anyway how Mr. Jackson looked, appeared?
Gongaware: No
Gongaware said he didn't remember any of the footage been removed because of how MJ looked. "We just let the footage speak for itself." (ABC7)

The mini-movie of "Earth" a bulldozer would come out from a ramp in center stage. Putnam: A real bulldozer?
Gongaware: I wish, it would've been cheaper, but it would have crushed our ramps. Gongaware said they had to build the bulldozer like a prop. It would appear at the end of the song on stage. "I think the live audience would be just captivated by it," Gongaware said about the little girl running after the last plant on Earth song. (ABC7)

End of the show would be 3D animation. An airplane taxis up, door opens, Michael entered the plane. The airplane door closes, MJ would actually take an elevator down and out of the building, but plane would take off over the audience. (ABC7)

Gongaware said he didn't know if anyone was responsible for MJ's nourishment. Tour would be demanding and exhausting. (ABC7)

Gongaware said he met Dr. Murray once at MJ's Carolwood house and ran into him at The Forum during rehearsal. There was a meeting scheduled to discuss MJ's nutrition with Randy Phillips, Kenny Ortega, Dr. Murray, MJ, Gongaware and DiLeo.
Putnam: Do you recall anyone in that meeting ever tell Dr. Murray how he should be treating MJ?
Gongaware: No (ABC7)

Gongaware said he didn’t have any medical training and wasn’t qualified to tell Conrad Murray how to treat Jackson. (AP)

Gongaware said neither Dr. Murray nor MJ talked about the treatment singer was receiving. The meeting was about nutrition, vitamin, therapy. Gongaware said he had no idea Dr. Murray was giving MJ Propofol and first heard of the anesthetic after Michael died. Gongaware said Dr. Murray was really engaged in the meeting, seemed like a very intelligent guy and wanted to take care of MJ very much. This was the first time Gongaware had with Dr. Murray. He said there were no signs of MJ being poorly treated by the doctor. "Michael was engaged in the meeting, attentive, seemed happy we were having this meeting," Gongaware opined. "He's a doctor, he'd know better than anybody how to treat his patient," Gongaware said about Dr. Murray. Gongaware said he was never present on any meeting where anyone told Dr. Murray how to treat MJ. (ABC7)

As to Gongaware's email saying AEG, not MJ, paid Dr Murray he said he mistaken. "We wouldn't pay his salary, we'd advance Michael's money". Gongaware said he didn't remember writing/receiving the email, but never denied he did it. "Michael Jackson would be paying his salary, but AEG would advance the money," Gongaware testified. (ABC7)

As to MJ being habitual late, Gongaware said the singer worked on his own schedule, did things his way. (ABC7)

Gongaware said his understanding was that MJ hired a trainer of his choice, Louis (Lou) Ferrigno. "I made the deal with him (Ferrigno). He was supposed to be paid certain amount of money per session," Gongaware said. (ABC7) Paul Gongaware said Ferrigno was working with Jackson as a trainer. He said he negotiated Ferrigno’s deal. Gongaware: “He was to be paid ... a certain amount, per session.” He didn’t elaborate on fee, how many times he worked with MJ. (AP) Putnam showed email from Travis Payne, he suggested massage chair 2 be put in MJ's dressing room. Gongaware said it wasn't callous treatment. (ABC7)

As to Bugzee's email saying MJ needed cheeseburgers, brats and beers, Gongaware said Bugzee was joking, Bugzee cared very much for MJ. Gongaware testified he didn't recall having any concern about MJ's health/using painkillers as of Monday 6/15/09, 10 days prior to his death. (ABC7)

Gongaware was asked about several emails that have been shown before, including messages related to MJ missing rehearsal on June 19, 2009. The executive was on the East Coast for a family wedding, but responded to one message questioning why Murray wasn’t at rehearsal. Gongaware email: “Take the doctor with you. Why wasn’t he there last night?” He then explained his thinking to the jury. Gongaware: “If his patient is having is problem and he’s sick, and he’s his only patient, it seemed like he should be there.” (AP) Gongaware said on 6/19/09, he was out of town. "This is the day Michael had chills at rehearsal and was apparently sick," Gongaware recalled. "If the meeting was going to be about what happened that night, the doctor should be there," Gongaware said. Gongaware: If his patient is sick and he's your only patient, doctor should be there! (ABC7)

Gongaware said he believed MJ wanted to go on tour. He said he doesn't remember anyone talking about pulling the plug on the shows. (ABC7)

Putnam: Did anyone tell you at this point that MJ needed a drug addiction specialist?
Gongaware: No
Putnam: Did anyone tell you they were concerned with the care Dr. Murray was giving to MJ?
Gongaware: No (ABC7)

Gongaware said that on 6/20/09 he did not think MJ's health was deteriorating. Gongaware and Phillips were concerned with MJ's well being. (ABC7) With last questions of the day, AEG attorney Marvin Putnam asked Gongaware if he was concerned about Jackson’s well-being. He said yes. (AP)

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Jacksons vs AEG - Day 23 – June 4 2013 – Summary

Katherine was at the court with Austin Brown.

Paul Gongaware Testimony

AEG cross

He was asked about Jackson’s final two rehearsals at Staples Center. Gongaware couldn’t details about recall the first one. He said he wasn’t particularly attentive about Jackson’s health, appearance. This was 1st rehearsal after Jackson missed one 4 days earlier. (AP) Gongaware said MJ rehearsed on June 23rd. "He was fine," Gongaware described, saying his understanding was that MJ was okay. Gongaware said he wasn't being specifically attentive on the 23rd because he didn't think there was a problem with Michael. MJ rehearsed on Jun 24th. Gongaware watched "Thriller" in its entirety, it was the 1st time they were using costume. He said MJ seemed fine. (ABC7) The second rehearsal on June 24, 2009, Gongaware watched Thriller. “He was fine,” he said of Jackson. (AP)

Putnam: Was he engaged? Gongaware: Yes P: Any physical issues? G: No, I didn't see any "He did a good rehearsal," Gongaware testified. (ABC7)

On June 25th, Gongaware got a call from Randy saying he had a call from DiLeo asking him to go to MJ's house because something was going on. As Randy got to Michael's house, an ambulance was leaving and Randy followed it to the hospital, Gongaware said. "I didn't know what was going on," Gongaware said. "At that point I was apprehensive because I didn't know what was happening." Gongaware said he didn't hear anything for a while, so he called Randy to see what was going on and he said Michael had died. "I was in shock," Gongaware recalled. "The artist was gone, he just passed away. How did this happen?!". Gongaware said he no idea what caused MJ to die, never contemplated the idea of Michael Jackson dying. (ABC7) Gongaware talked very matter-of-factly about the day Jackson died. He said he heard about the death from AEG Live CEO Randy Philips. “I was in shock,” Gongaware said. “The artist was gone. He just passed away.” Gongaware said he questioned how it happened. He said he never contemplated that Jackson would die. He said he went to Staples Center, where the mood was somber. (AP) "I called Kenny right away and told him. He was at Staples Center," Gongaware recalled. "The atmosphere at Staples was very somber." (ABC7)

After MJ's passing, Gongaware said they had to shut down production. He was then involved in Jackson's memorial service. (ABC7)

Gongaware said AEG never considered having Jackson start concerts in United States, due to “all those child allegations and all that stuff.” (AP) As to why TII was happening in London, Gongaware explained it was MJ's best market. "We didn't know how strong it would be." Putnam asked Gongaware if AEG considered tour in US. "No, he had all those child allegations flying, it was the wrong thing to do" he said. (ABC7)

Gongaware: He didn't tour very often, I don't think he liked it very much. There were lots of things he would be rather doing. MJ never did "meet and greet", according to Gongaware. (ABC7) He said he didn't believe that Jackson liked to tour, and that he didn't do meet-and-greets with fans and sponsors. (AP)

The exec said Michael came out with the phrase "This Is It" because this was the last tour he was going to do. (ABC7)

MJ only agreed to 50 shows, but Gongaware said AEG Live was interested in more shows. (ABC7)

Gongaware said “Dangerous” tour lost money due to cancellations. He said he thought “HIStory” nearly broke even. (AP) Gongaware worked on "Dangerous," "HIStory" and one Jacksons tour back in the 80s with MJ. Dangerous lost money, Gongaware said, because a lot shows were canceled. History was probably pretty close to break even, the exec explained. MJ did the "Bad" tour, but Gongaware was not involved in it. MJ's primary concern was not making money off his shows, Gongaware said. His primary concern was with the art, the performance. (ABC7) Attorney Marvin Putnam asked Gongaware of Jackson: “Was making money his primary concern?” Gongaware: "That wasn’t his primary concern.” (AP)

"This Is It" was supposed to be spectacular, Gongaware said. He would be doing 8-10 shows a month, so about 3 a week. (ABC7)

Gongaware said he never saw MJ take drugs. Aside from drug use in 93, Gongaware said he didn't have any other knowledge of MJ using drugs. "He was lively, engaged, he seemed happy," Gongaware said about MJ. (ABC7)

Putnam asked Gongaware about the day he thought Jackson was impaired after an appointment with Dr. Arnold Klein. The questions prompted a sidebar. He said Jackson “wasn’t quite the same” but didn’t testify about Jackson’s demeanor in detail. (AP) Gongaware described the time where he was at MJ's house for a meeting and MJ was late. When MJ arrived, Gongaware said his speech was a little slurred, he wasn't quite the same. He was told Michael was at Dr. Klein's office. Gongaware said he was not familiar with the doctors who treated MJ. Putnam announced be had no more questions at this time. (ABC7)

Jackson redirect

In response to Panish question, Gongaware said “This Is It” was only second tour that AEG Live would promote and produce. (AP)

Jackson's atty Brian Panish began re-cross of Gongaware. He asked if the exec was concerned about MJ. "I certainly wanted him to do well". Panish: Were you concerned about his children and his family, sir? Gongaware: I was concerned about him (MJ). Panish: How about his family and children, sir? Gongaware: I supposed. I was focused on MJ. (ABC7)

Panish then asked Gongaware whether he cared about Michael Jackson. “I believe so. I certainly wanted him to be well, yes.” Panish: “Were you concerned about his children and his family?” Gongaware: “I suppose.” Gongaware added, “I was focused on Michael Jackson.” Brian Panish asked Gongaware a couple different ways if he was concerned about Jackson's mother, children. Gongaware looked up toward the celiling and then said he’d thought about it and he was concerned about Jackson’s mom & children (AP)

"I believe he was a good father," Gongaware said about Michael Jackson. Panish: Did you know he was a great son to his mother? Gongaware: I believe he was. (ABC7)

Panish asked if Gongaware ever called Katherine Jackson to express his condolences. The executive said no. Gongaware said he also didn’t think that he sent Katherine Jackson or Jackson’s children a condolence card. (AP) P: After MJ died, did you ever send a card to his mother? G: I don't think so P: Did you ever call her to express your condolences? G: No (ABC7)

Panish asked Gongaware several questions about the executive changing elements of his deposition testimony. (AP) "I believe I testified truthfully," Gongaware said. "I don't believe I changed my testimony substantially." (ABC7)

Panish then started pointing out what he said were inconsistencies in Gongaware’s testimony. (AP)

This led to questions about whether Gongaware was mistaken when he wrote in an email that AEG was paying Conrad Murray’s salary. Gongaware said he didn’t necessarily think he was mistaken. He also said he didn’t remember writing the email. (AP)As to the email Gongaware wrote that AEG, not MJ, paid Dr. Murray Panish asked again if Gongaware recalled writing this email. He said no. Gongaware said he spent 2 days with his lawyers preparing for his deposition, one-two hours discussing the email about AEG paying Dr. Murray. Panish pointed out several answers Gongaware gave on his deposition and the changes he ask to make to transcript after meeting with attorneys. Panish said Gongaware changed his testimony several times as a result of meeting with AEG's attorneys. Panish said Gongaware also changed his testimony again while on the stand and under oath. Panish tried to impeach Gongaware, which is a legal way to call into question the witness' credibility. Later in the case, judge will instruct the jurors that if they think a person lied, they may disconsider part of all of his testimony. As to the email about AEG paying Dr. Murray, Panish pointed out that Gongaware changed his answers several times throughout his testimony. One time he said the email was shorthanded, normal course of business and didn't really think it was a mistake. Yesterday, Gongaware answered the same question saying he was mistaken when he said AEG was paying Dr. Murray. Gongaware explained he thinks he said the same thing but different ways. (ABC7) Gongaware was also asked about a key email he wrote that has come up several other times during the trial. Talking about Murray, he wrote, “We want to remind him that it is AEG, not MJ who is paying his salary. We want him to understand what is expected of him.” Panish asked, “Do you have any idea why you might have written that AEG is paying his salary?" "No," replied Gongaware. "I mean, I was mistaken there. We weren’t going to pay his salary. We would have advanced the money on Michael’s instructions.” (LATimes)

Panish then asked Gongaware about Lou Ferrigno and whether he was an employee of AEG Live. No, Gongaware said. Gongaware reiterated his testimony from Mon. that he made a deal with Ferrigno. He said Ferrigno would have been an independent contractor. Panish asked whether Ferrigno had a contract with AEG Live. Gongaware said he didn’t know. (AP) Panish asked Gongaware if he hired Lou Ferrigno to be MJ's trainer. "I made a deal for Michael," Gongaware said. Ferrigno was an independent contractor, Gongaware said he didn't know whether Ferrigno was submitting bills to his office. Panish: So you stiffed Lou Ferrigno, you didn't pay the Incredible Hulk? (Everyone in the courtroom laughed out loud) Gongaware: I don't know how he would get paid, if he would submit bills or not. (ABC7) Panish asked whether Ferrigno submitted bills directly to Gongaware to be paid. I hear the response, but it prompted this exchange. Panish: “You stiffed Lou Ferrigno? You didn't pay The Incredible Hulk?” Lots of laughter in gallery, from the jury. AEG Live exec Paul Gongaware said he didn’t know if Lou Ferrigno was paid. (AP) Gongaware said he also made a deal with actor and bodybuilder Lou Ferrigno to serve as Jackson's trainer. When he said he didn't know if Ferrigno had been paid, Panish replied, “So you stiffed Lou Ferrigno? You didn’t pay the Incredible Hulk?” (LAtimes)

Panish said Gongaware testified yesterday that he was not concerned with MJ because he was working out with a trainer. Today Gongaware testified MJ was going to work out with Lou Ferrigno. Gongaware said he didn't know whether Ferrigno had an independent contract agreement or not and if he got paid. Panish inquired about AEG only paying people with fully executed contract. Gongaware said he didn't know the status of Ferrigno's contract. "I don't know specifically when Mr. Jackson saw trainers, but I believe he was seeing trainers," Gongaware explained. Panish: He was seeing Lou Ferrigno to be in the next Incredible Hulk? Gongaware: I don't think so. Panish said Gongaware testified he was not concerned about MJ because he was working out with Lou Ferrigno. He said he didn't say that. (ABC7)

"When he was sick on June 19, I didn't know what was happening," Gongaware explained. "After that, MJ was great." (ABC7)

Panish asked Murray about whether he ever received Conrad Murray’s contract. Gongaware, when shown an email from June 16, 2009, that he received that included Murray’s contract, said he didn’t generally read contracts (AP) "Dr Murray wasn't supposed to get paid. If MJ would've signed the deal, Dr Murray would've been paid for his work in London," Gongaware said . Panish: You didn't have time to ready budgets, you didn't have time to read contracts, right? Gongaware: I didn't read budgets early on. Panish asked if Gongaware had any doc to prove that Dr. Murray was told that anyone else, but AEG, was paying him. Gongaware didn't recall. Panish: Did you have anything in writing saying it was MJ, not AEG, paying Dr. Murray? Gongaware: I don't know. (Panish then asked Gongaware about whether he’d ever sent Murray anything saying it was Jackson, not AEG paying him. PG said he didn’t know. AP) Gongaware said he believed Dr. Murray signed one version the contract, but doesn't know whether the one showed to him was it. (ABC7) Gongaware said he knew of no document that said his company's payments to Conrad Murray were actually part of a loan to MJ. Gongaware, on the stand for the sixth day, said he didn't know what Murray assumed about who was paying him. (LAtimes)

The jury was shown an email from Timm Woolley, the AEG accountant on Jackson's "This Is It" concert series in London, sent Murray June 6, 2009, 19 days before the pop idol's death.

“I am sorry for the long delay in getting this to you, but I hope that, with your input and comments, we can dispose of the agreement quickly and arrange for payment of the May & June fee instalment,” Woolley wrote.

Gongaware testified that although he made the deal with Murray, and that the contract was emailed to him in 2009, Tuesday's court appearance was the first time he had seen it. Gongaware repeated his contention as he has through his testimony, that “he was working for Michael Jackson. He wasn’t working for us.” The contract shown to the jury said it was between AEG Live and Murray. The contract also said Murray was to "Perform the Services reasonably requested by Producer," AEG. Trell testified earlier that this was one of several mistakes in a draft that would have been cleaned up in the final version. (LATimes)

Panish: You expected Dr Murray, just like Ferrigno, to get paid for services provided to AEG right sir? Gongaware: He wasn't working for AEG. Gongaware said he was tasked to make the deal, determine compensation for Dr. Murray. Panish: If he was MJ's personal doctor, why hire him? Gongaware: I think he wanted to set up the payment. "I was told to negotiate his compensation," Gongaware said about Dr. Murray. (ABC7)

Plaintiff's attorney Brian Panish asked Gongaware about his contention that Jackson was always able to perform and nail shows when necessary (AP) Gongaware repeated he believed when lights went on, MJ was always there. Panish pointed out MJ canceled several shows in Dangerous tour. (ABC7) The lawyer cited several shows over Jackson’s career that he missed: Bangkok, South America and the need to move a couple in Mexico City. (AP)

Panish then asked Gongaware about Dr. Stuart Finkelstein, who the lawyer kept referring to as Gongaware’s friend of 25 years. Finkelstein, a possible witness in the trial, was on the last leg of the “Dangerous” tour before it was canceled. (AP) Gongaware said Dr. Finkelstein is now a drug addiction specialist. "There were two occasions where he (Dr. Finkelstein) told me he treated MJ, but never talked about Demerol or injections," Gongaware said. "I believe he's mistaken," Gongaware said if Dr. Finkelstein gave deposition to the contrary. Panish: Did Dr. Finkelstein tell you he put MJ on a 24 hour morphine drip? Gongaware: No. (ABC7) Gongaware denied that Finkelstein told him that he thought Jackson was suffering from a prescription drug addiction. He also denied that Finkelstein told him that another doctor on the “Dangerous” tour was giving Jackson Demerol shots. Lastly, he denied that Finkelstein told him that Jackson had been placed on a 24 hour morphine drip at one point. (AP) Dr. Forecast, from London, was MJ's doctor treating the artist during Dangerous tour.(ABC7)

Gongaware said he was never alarmed about Jackson’s health and said he say the musician as being well. (AP)

Panish: Is safety paramount to AEG live? Gongaware: Safety should always be expected, act safe. Gongaware said he didn't know if there was a person in charge of safety at rehearsals.(ABC7)

Panish asked about Dr. Murray's contract. Gongaware said he received an email with it attached but never read it. Under responsibilities of Dr. Murray, it said Dr. Murray was to perform the Services reasonably requested by Producer. Panish: Do you know it MJ would've agreed to that? Gongaware: I don't know. Panish inquired if Dr. Murray asking $5 million was a red flag. Gongaware said no, people asked more than their value because it was MJ. (ABC7)

Panish asked Gongaware about why he didn’t review emails before his deposition in Dec. 2012. He said he relied on his attorney’s advice. (Later, in questioning by defense attorney Marvin Putnam, Gongaware said he had no idea which of his 13k emails he would be asked about.) (AP)

Panish: In your opinion, this is a baseless, shakedown lawsuit? Gongaware: I don't understand the merit in it
Panish: You answered interrogatories in this case blaming everything on Mrs. Jackson? Gongaware: I don't recall
Panish: Did you sign anything in this case saying that Mrs. Jackson was trying to extort money from AEG? Gongaware: I don't recall (ABC7)

Gongaware was asked whether he remembered signing court docs in which he called Katherine Jackson an extortionist. “I don’t recall,” he said. Regarding the court case, Gongaware said, “I just don’t understand the merit of it.” Regarding whether Jackson’s children suffered a loss after their father’s death, Gongaware said, “I believe they suffered a great loss.” (AP)

"I believe they suffered a great loss," Gongaware said about Michael's children losing a father. (ABC7)

Gongaware agreed that the best recollection of what happened in 2009 is the emails, but said he remembers from his head too. "He was always amazing," Gongaware said about MJ. Gongaware: I thought he was great Panish: Despite Bugzee saying MJ was deteriorating in front of his eyes? G: My eyes told me differently (ABC7)

Gongaware said the demand for tickets for MJ's memorial service was huge, comparable to the demand for TII tour. Gongaware said the amount of people still in line to buy tickets for TII could've sold out 100 shows. (ABC7)

Panish: Do you remember what you said Elvis died of? Gongaware: Heart ailment. But Panish recalled Gongaware giving a different answer earlier on, saying he believed it was prescription drugs (ABC7)

After questions about other emails, Gongaware acknowledged they were the best evidence of what he was doing at the time. Gongaware was asked about extending the “This Is It” tour. He was shown emails from promoters wanting MJ concerts in India, Australia. Gongaware said he would have liked the "This Is It" tour to continue, but they only had agreement for 50 shows. (AP) On 3/18/09 -- asking about MJ going to India for show, Phillips responded: "Thanks, Thomas. MJ will definitely be heading your way. Gongaware said he thinks they were making plans in case MJ said ok, let's go. Email on 3/17/09 from Phillips: We have a 4 year plan that included Australia, however, we have to finish London first. Gongaware, who didn't like Australian's promoter, responded: "Over my dead body. But let's see what he says before I p**s on his parade." (ABC7)

Panish: Did you ever see MJ under the influence of prescription medication on Jun 2009? Gongaware: When he came back from Dr. Klein's office. Panish: Did you investigate? Gongaware: No, he was coming from his doctor, I didn't think there was a need (ABC7)

Email on 3/23/09 from Gongaware to his secretary: Figure it out so it looks like he's not working so much. "I didn't want him to think he was working more than he was," Gongaware testified. (ABC7)

Panish: your goal was to have as many shows as possible? Gongaware: I would've liked that. Panish: The more shows you had, the more money AEG would've gotten, right? Gongaware: Yes (ABC7)

Panish asked Gongaware if he had talked to Phillips since he’d been on the witness stand. He said he hadn’t discussed case. Panish then asked if Phillips was aware Gongaware said he was content with AEG Live being #2 concert promoter behind Live Nation. Gongaware said he’s expressed his opinion that AEG Live doesn’t need to be #1 promoter. (AP)


AEG recross

Marvin Putnam, in re-direct, asked Gongaware if he tried to give his best testimony possible in deposition. Gongaware said yes. (ABC7)

Gongaware said he saw MJ with slurred speech after seen Dr. Klein, not Dr. Murray. (ABC7)

He asked Gongaware why he never sent a condolence card to Jackson’s family. “I’m not good with cards,” he said. (AP) As to the card to Mrs. Jackson and children, Gongaware said he's not good with cards, couldn't recall ever sending a condolence card. (ABC7) He said the memorial service was how he wanted to honor singer. Gongaware said he spent a lot of time thinking about Jackson after his death (AP) "What I did, I tried to put the memorial show together," Gongaware said. "I think it was the best thing for me to do, commemorate his life." Memorial was at the Staples Center with 15,000 people, live feed to Nokia Theater with 5,000 people. Gongaware said he worked directly with Randy Jackson on the memorial. It cost over a million dollars, AEG and MJ's estate bore the cost. (ABC7) Gongaware said AEG and the estate spent more than $1 million on Michael Jackson’s memorial service. (AP) "I'm glad I did what I did," Gongaware said, adding memorial was shown to millions of people interested in MJ around the world. (ABC7)

Putnam tried 2 rebut all the claims that Gongaware changed his testimony. Gongaware said he feels he hasn't changed his answers (ABC7)

Putnam also showed jury Gongaware’s police statement. Panish had said his comment to police was different from testimony. Panish keyed in on whether Gongaware testified that it was five weeks or two weeks between his 1st two conversations with Conrad Murray. The police statement said Gongaware told detectives a few weeks separated the calls regarding Murray and the contract. (AP)

Another document that defense attorney Marvin Putnam showed Gongaware was Lou Ferrigno’s contract. Ferrigno’s three-page contract designated him as an independent contractor. It was signed by AEG accounting exec Julie Hollander. (AP) Putnam showed independent contract agreement with Ferrigno fully executed. Julie Hollander signed on behalf of AEG effective April 27, 2009. (ABC7)

Putnam finished his examination of Gongaware by showing him Conrad Murray’s contract. (AP) Putnam questioned Gongaware about Dr. Murray's contract. The exec said MJ had to sign it in order for it to be valid. (ABC7) Putnam showed Gongaware language in the agreement that said Michael Jackson had to sign agreement for it to be a valid contract. Putnam also keyed in on language that said Murray was being engaged “on behalf and at the expense” of Michael Jackson. (AP)

Jackson redirect

Then it was Brian Panish's turn again. He said there isn't a date on the contract showing when Julie Hollander signed Ferrigno's agreement. (ABC7) Panish questioned Gongaware about whether Ferrigno’s contract may have been signed after Jackson’s death. Gongaware said he didn’t think he sent any contracts to Julie Hollander after Jackson’s death. (AP) Panish pointed out that Hollander was signing contracts after MJ had died. He asked to see the original contract. Panish: Lou Ferrigno was retained by AEG, right? Gongaware: Yes (ABC7)

Panish asked Gongaware whether he thought it would have been better for him if he had reviewed documents and e-mails before testifying. "I relied on the advice of my attorney," he said. "All this legal stuff, I don't understand it," he said. (CNN) Gongaware said he expected his lawyers would act on his best interest and that testified truthfully and factually in his deposition. Panish asked if Gongaware expected to be believed now when he wouldn't recall his answers in deposition. Defendant objected, judge sustained (ABC7)

Panish also repeatedly referred to the number of AEG Live defense lawyers in the courtroom. He was later admonished to stop mentioning them. Putnam had noted that Katherine Jackson's side was being represented by four law firms. Panish said he didn't care if Putnam brought it up (AP)

With that Paul Gongaware was excused, subject to recall if needed.


Randy Phillips Testimony


Jackson direct

Phillips said he met w/ 6 attorneys to prep for testimony between 6-8 times over the last two weeks, probably for about 30 hours. Phillips said he went through a bunch of emails, probably 30, from the period in question. He also read his deposition. Phillips said he didn't prepare for the deposition. "They (attys) felt it would be better if I went in without any preparation." (ABC7) Randy Phillips, the chief executive officer of AEG Live, disclosed that his lawyers advised company executives not to review old e-mails before testifying. "They felt it would be better if I went in without preparation," he said, referring to his lawyers. (AEG Live lawyer Marvin Putman said outside of court that the volume of documents they would have needed to review was massive, making it impossible for them to prepare. ) (CNN)

Panish asked Phillips whether he was eager to tell his side of the story.
"I believe you called me as a witness, so I'm here," Phillips said flatly. (AP)

Phillips attended two years of law school, but didn't graduate. (ABC7)

Panish: Who's higher up than you at AEG Live? Phillips: No one at AEG Live P: You are the top dog, so to speak? P: Yes. Phillips reports to an executive committee who would then report to Tim Leiweke. Phillips said he doesn't know why Leiweke left the company. Phil Anschutz now belongs to the executive committee. (ABC7)

Panish at one point asked the executive whether he was familiar with the music industry.
"Familiar with the music industry? I was working in it," Phillips replied. (AP)

Phillips said he agreed with statements attributed to him and defense attorney Marvin S. Putnam that the case was a shakedown. "Yes or no, answer? Yes," Phillips said in response to a question by Katherine Jackson's attorney Brian Panish. (AP)

Panish: Do you think this is an extortion, shakedown lawsuit? Phillips: Yes or no answer? Yes. Panish: Did you sign a document under the penalty of perjury saying Mrs. Jackson aided and abetted Joe Jackson to extort money from AEG? Phillips: It's possible, I don't remember. "I wish you wouldn't keep calling it a baseless shakedown lawsuit," Phillips told Panish. Panish: You believe this case is an extortion, correct? Phillips: Yes (ABC7)

Panish: You told Mr. Ortega that AEG checked everyone out, including Dr. Murray? "I wrote in an email to Kenny Ortega that I thought Dr. Murray had been checked out. I still do, to some extent," Phillips said. Panish: You said he was a great doctor? Phillips: Because that's what I was told. Panish: Did you write email that AEG checked everyone out? Phillips: Yes, I did Panish: That was not true Phillips: In retrospect, not 100%. "It's what I knew at the time," Phillips said. (ABC7)

"I wrote it in the e-mail that I thought at the time he had been checked out," Phillips testified Tuesday. He wrote that Murray was successful "because that's what I was told," he said. "In retrospect, it's not 100% true," Phillips said. "There's what I thought at the time versus what I learned afterwards. (CNN)

Panish: Isn't it true you said AEG live doesn't lose money, sir? Phillips: Among other things I said. Panish showed Phillips a Forbes article where he said AEG is about making money, since they are a business. Live Nation is the largest concert promoter in the world, Phillips said. Panish: Do you like being number 2? Phillips: Love it! I'd rather be a successful number 2. Panish: You don't want to be number one? Phillips: Not if it means losing money. Phillips said Mr. Anschutz told him he's happy being a number 2. (ABC7)

Panish asked if it was true Phillips wanted 2 meet with MJ to tour in 2007. Phillips answered it was the opposite, they asked for a meeting. Panish: Please don't argue with me, I'm going to argue w/ you and will get in trouble Phillips: That's an incentive now (Everyone laughed) (ABC7)

Jackson lawyer Brian Panish, who has been previously told by the judge not to argue with witnesses, quickly tangled with Phillips.
"Please don't argue with me because then I will argue back and get in trouble," Panish told Phillips at one point.
"Then that's an incentive for me," Phillips joked. (CNN)

Panish: Did you learn Colony Capital purchase note on Neverland? Phillips: Yes BP: Is Barrack one of principals on Colony Capital? RP: Yes. On 6/13/08, Phillips sent email to Colony Capital with a summation of plans for MJ for four years. Email: I caution you that MJ is not fast and a total perfectionist (needs to be controlled as much as possible). Phillips said he was referring to MJ's spending. (ABC7)

Panish: Neverland was his beloved home, right sir? Phillips: Hard to answer, because of the things MJ told me. (ABC7)

When the executive appeared to crack a smile, Panish asked if he thought the proceedings were funny. "No, I think it's tragic." Phillips replied. (AP) Panish: Do you think any of this is funny, sir? Phillips: No, I think it's tragic (ABC7)

Tohme Tohme was a business associate with Colony Capital, who was also working with MJ. Panish asked if Phillips thought there was a conflict of interest with Tohme working for Colony and MJ. He said no. (ABC7)


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Zusammenfassungen der vorangegangenen gerichtstage:
Day 1 - anträge u. eröffnungsstatements
Day 2 - anhörung und zeugen Senneff u. Martinez
Day 3 - forts. zeuge Martinez u. anhörung
Day 4 - forts. zeuge Martinez
Day 5 - zeugen Anderson und Rogers
Day 6 - zeuge Dr. Wohlgelernter
Day 7 - zeugin Sankey
Day 8 - zeugin Faye
Day 9 - forts. zeugin Faye
Day 10 - zeugen Walker, Rogers, Payne
Day 11 - forts. zeuge Payne
Day 12 - zeugin Hollander
Day 13 - M. Hom videodeposition, forts. zeugin Hollander
Day 14 - forts. zeugin Hollander; zeuge Trell
Day 14 fortsetzung - forts. zeuge Trell
Day 16 - forts. zeuge Trell
Day 17 - forts. zeuge Trell
Day 18 - zeuge Gongaware
Day 19 - forts. zeuge Gongaware
Day 20 - forts. zeuge Gongaware
Day 21 - forts. zeuge Gongaware



Originaldokumente eröffnungsstatements u.a. (MJJC #1 ff.)

[Lena]

Es geht weiter mit Philpps, diesmal von oben nach unten lesen
ABC7 Court News @ABC7Courts4s
With that Paul Gongaware was excused, subject to recall if needed. Randy Phillips took the stand next also as adverse witness.
ABC7 Court News @ABC7Courts45s
Phillips said he met w/ 6 attorneys to prep for testimony between 6-8 times over the last two weeks, probably for about 30 hours.
Phillips sagte, er traf mit 6 Anwälten um für die Zeugenaussage vorzubereiten zwischen 6-8 Mal in den letzten zwei Wochen, wahrscheinlich für etwa 30 Stunden.
ABC7 Court News @ABC7Courts37s
Phillips said he went through a bunch of emails, probably 30, from the period in question. He also read his deposition.
Phillips sagte, er ging durch eine Menge von E-Mails, wahrscheinlich 30, aus der betreffenden Zeit. Er las auch seine Depositon.

ABC7 Court News @ABC7Courts19s
Phillips said he didn't prepare for the deposition. "They (attys) felt it would be better if I went in without any preparation."
Phillips sagte, er habe die Deposition nicht vorbereitet. "Sie (Anwälte) fühlten, es wäre besser, wenn ich ohne Vorbereitung herein gehe."

ABC7 Court News @ABC7Courts27s
Phillips attended two years of law school, but didn't graduate.
Phillips aboslvierte zwei Jahre Jurastudium, dass er nicht abschloss.

ABC7 Court News @ABC7Courts21s
Panish: Who's higher up than you at AEG Live? Phillips: No one at AEG Live P: You are the top dog, so to speak? P: Yes
Panish: Wer ist höher als Sie in AEG-Live? Phillips: Niemand bei AEG Live-P: Sie sind sozusagen der Platzhirsch, ? P: Ja

ABC7 Court News @ABC7Courts31s
Phillips reports to an executive committee who would then report to Tim Leiweke. Phillips said he doesn't know why Leiweke left the company.
Phillips berichtet einem Exekutivausschuss, der dann an Tim Leiweke berichten würden. Phillips sagte, dass er nicht weiß, warum Leiweke das Unternehmen verlassen hat.

ABC7 Court News @ABC7Courts1m
Phil Anschutz now belongs to the executive committee.
Phil Anschutz gehört nun zum Vorstand.
ABC7 Court News @ABC7Courts35s
Panish: Do you think this is an extortion, shakedown lawsuit? Phillips: Yes or no answer? Yes
Panish: Glauben sie, das ist eine Erpressungs- Shakedown Klage?
Phillips: Ja oder Nein Antwort? Ja

ABC7 Court News @ABC7Courts23s
Panish: Did you sign a document under the penalty of perjury saying Mrs. Jackson aided and abetted Joe Jackson to extort money from AEG?
Panish: Haben Sie ein Dokument unterzeichnet, unter der Strafe des Meineids das Mrs. Jackson unterstützt und begünstigt Joe Jackson, um Geld von AEG zu erpressen?
ABC7 Court News @ABC7Courts17s
Phillips: It's possible, I don't remember
Phillips: Es ist möglich, ich erinnere mich nicht

ABC7 Court News @ABC7Courts34s
"I wish you wouldn't keep calling it a baseless shakedown lawsuit," Phillips told Panish.
"Ich wünschte, Sie würden es nicht weiter eine unbegründete Shakedown-Klage nennen", sagte Phillips Panish

ABC7 Court News @ABC7Courts8s
Panish: You believe this case is an extortion, correct? Phillips: Yes
Panisch: Sie glauben, dass dies ein Fall von Erpressung ist, richtig? Phillips: Ja

ABC7 Court News @ABC7Courts35s
Panish: You told Mr. Ortega that AEG checked everyone out, including Dr. Murray?
Panisch: Sie erzählten Mr. Ortega, dass AEG jeden ausgecheckt hat, darunter Dr. Murray?

ABC7 Court News @ABC7Courts28s
"I wrote in an email to Kenny Ortega that I thought Dr. Murray had been checked out. I still do, to some extent," Phillips said.
"Ich habe in in einer E-Mail an Kenny Ortega geschrieben, dass ich dachte Dr. Murray wäre ausgecheckt. Tue ich immer noch, zu einem gewissen Grad", sagte Phillips.

ABC7 Court News @ABC7Courts11s
Panish: You said he was a great doctor? Phillips: Because that's what I was told
Panisch: Sie sagten, er sei ein guter Arzt? Phillips: Denn das ist das , was man mir sagte.
ABC7 Court News @ABC7Courts13s
Panish: Did you write email that AEG checked everyone out? Phillips: Yes, I did Panish: That was not true Phillips: In retrospect, not 100%
Panish: Haben Sie eine E-Mail geschreiben, dass AEG jeden ausgecheckt hat? Phillips: Ja, tat ich. Panish: Das war nicht wahr. Phillips: Im Nachhinein nicht zu 100%

ABC7 Court News @ABC7Courts1m
"It's what I knew at the time," Phillips said.

"Es ist das, was ich zu der Zeit wusste", sagte Phillips.
ABC7 Court News @ABC7Courts1m
Panish: Isn't it true you said AEG live doesn't lose money, sir? Phillips: Among other things I said
Panish: Ist es nicht wahr, dass Sie sagten, dass AEG Live nicht Geld verlieren werde, Sir? Phillips: Unter anderem sagte ich das.

ABC7 Court News @ABC7Courts50s
Panish showed Phillips a Forbes article where he said AEG is about making money, since they are a business.
Panish zeigte Phillips ein Forbes-Artikel, wo er sagte AEG ist da um Geld zu verdienen, da sie ein Geschäft sind.

ABC7 Court News @ABC7Courts1m
Live Nation is the largest concert promoter in the world, Phillips said.
Live Nation ist der größte Konzert-Promoter in der Welt, sagte Phillips.
ABC7 Court News @ABC7Courts1m
Panish: Do you like being number 2? Phillips: Love it! I'd rather be a successful number 2
Panish: Mögen Sie die Nummer 2 zu sein? Phillips: Ich liebe es! Ich möchte lieber ein erfolgreiche Nummer 2 sein

ABC7 Court News @ABC7Courts4m
Panish: You don't want to be number one? Phillips: Not if it means losing money
Panisch: Sie wollen nicht die Nummer eins sein? Phillips: Nicht, wenn es bedeutet, Geld zu verlieren
ABC7 Court News @ABC7Courts2m
Phillips said Mr. Anschutz told him he's happy being a number 2.
Phillips sagte Herr Anschutz sagte ihm, dass er glücklich sei die Nummer 2 zu sein
ABC7 Court News @ABC7Courts35s
Panish asked if it was true Phillips wanted 2 meet with MJ to tour in 2007. Phillips answered it was the opposite, they asked for a meeting.
Panish fragte, ob es wahr sei, das Phillips sich mit MJ wegen einer Tour im Jahr 2007 treffen wollte. Phillips antwortete es war das Gegenteil, sie baten um ein Treffen.

ABC7 Court News @ABC7Courts18s
Panish: Please don't argue with me, I'm going to argue w/ you and will get in trouble Phillips: That's an incentive now (Everyone laughed)
Panish: Bitte argumentieren Sie nicht mit mir, ich werde mit Ihnen streiten und Sie bekommen Schwierigkeiten
Phillips: Das ist ein Anreiz jetzt (Alle lachen)
ABC7 Court News @ABC7Courts1m
Panish: Did you learn Colony Capital purchase note on Neverland? Phillips: Yes BP: Is Barrack one of principals on Colony Capital? RP: Yes
Panish: Haben Sie erfrahren das Colony Capital eine Grundschuld auf Neverland kaufte? Phillips: Ja Panish: Ist Barrack einer der Führer von Colony Capital? RP: Ja

ABC7 Court News @ABC7Courts55s
On 6/13/08, Phillips sent email to Colony Capital with a summation of plans for MJ for four years.
Am 6/13/08, schickte Phillips eine E-Mail an Colony Capital mit einer Summierung der Pläne für MJ für vier Jahre.

ABC7 Court News @ABC7Courts41s
Email: I caution you that MJ is not fast and a total perfectionist (needs to be controlled as much as possible).
E-Mail: Ich warne Sie, dass MJ nicht schnell ist und totaler Perfektionist (muss so weit wie möglich kontrolliert werden).

ABC7 Court News @ABC7Courts21s
Phillips said he was referring to MJ's spending.
Philpps sagt er bezog sich auf MJ`s Ausgaben.
ABC7 Court News @ABC7Courts4s
Panish: Neverland was his beloved home, right sir? Phillips: Hard to answer, because of the things MJ told me
Panish: Neverland war seine geliebte Heimat, richtig Sir? Phillips: Schwer zu beantworten auf Grund der Dinge, die MJ mir sagte.

ABC7 Court News @ABC7Courts33s
Panish: Do you think any of this is funny, sir? Phillips: No, I think it's tragic
Panish: Glauben Sie, dass irgendetwas von dem lustig ist, Sir? Phillips: Nein, ich denke, es ist tragisch

ABC7 Court News @ABC7Courts20s
Tohme Tohme was a business associate with Colony Capital, who was also working with MJ.
Tohme Tohme war ein Geschäftspartner mit Colony Capital, der auch mit MJ zusammenarbeitete.ABC7 Court News @ABC7Courts22s
Panish asked if Phillips thought there was a conflict of interest with Tohme working for Olony and MJ. He said no.
Panish fragt ob Philpps denkt es gab einen Intressenkonflikt mit Tohme arbeitend mit Colony und MJ ? Er sagt Nein.
ABC7 Court News @ABC7Courts35s
That ended today's testimony. Phillips is back on the stand tomorrow morning. As always, we hope to see you too!
Das beendet das heutige Zeugnis. Phillips ist wieder auf dem Stand morgen früh. Wie immer hoffen wir, Sie zu sehen!........................

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92. ABC7 Court News @ABC7Courts 10h
" I'm not going to tell Michael Jackson who his doctor should be," Gongaware explained.
„Ich erzähle Michael Jackson nicht wer sein Arzt sein sollte“ erklärt G.
93. ABC7 Court News @ABC7Courts 10h
Putnam: Did you think about checking the doctor? Gongaware: No P: Why not? G: He was Michael's doctor
P. Haben Sie darüber nachgedacht den Arzt zu checken? G. Nein P.Warum nicht?
G: Er war Michaels Arzt.
94. ABC7 Court News @ABC7Courts 10h
"He was Michael's doctor, Michael wanted him. That was it," Gongaware said.
„Er war Michaels Arzt. Michael wollte ihn. Das war es“ sagte G.95. ABC7 Court News @ABC7Courts 10h
We're still on stand by for Juror 12. Will take the time to resume tweeting today's testimony. Will update on juror's condition too.
96. ABC7 Court News @ABC7Courts 10h
Court clerk just announced a 10 minute break.
97. ABC7 Court News @ABC7Courts 10h
One of the fellow jurors, a woman, is a nurse and she's helping out. He was seen eating sugary drink and snacks. We hope everything is fine!
98. ABC7 Court News @ABC7Courts 10h
It is unclear what is wrong with him, but he was sweaty and looked he was about to pass out when he left the courtroom.
99. ABC7 Court News @ABC7Courts 10h
Just over 20 minutes into the afternoon session, Juror 12 reported he wasn't feeling well. Session is suspended for now.
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Gongaware said a lot of people who wanted to work for MJ asked for huge sums of money, thinking he had a lot.
G. sagte eine Menge Leute wollten für MJ arbeiten und fragten große Summen von Geld, denkend er hat eine Menge.
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"We couldn't afford it," Gongaware said. He spoke with Phillips and called Frank DiLeo, MJ's manager at the time.
„Wir konnten es uns nicht leisten“ sagt G. Er sprach mit Philipps und Frank Dileo.
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Gongaware said he called Michael Amir Williams to report back to MJ what the doctor had asked to go on tour.

G. sagte er rief Michael Amir an um es MJ zu berichten was der Arzt für die Tour wollte.
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Putnam: Did you contemplate bringing a doctor on tour? Gongaware: I didn't think he needed one, we didn't have one in History, he was fine
Putnam: Hielten Sie es für nötig einen Arzt auf Tour zu bringen? G. Ich dachte nicht, dass er einen brauchte, wir hatten keinen auf der HIStory Tour, es ging ihm gut.104. ABC7 Court News @ABC7Courts 11h
Putnam: Would you be doing this if Michael had not asked you? Gongaware: No
P. Hätten Sie das gemacht wenn Michael es sie gefragt hätte? G. Nein
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After that, Gongaware said he told Michael Amir and Randy Phillips what the doctor had asked. He also told Frank DiLeo.
Danach berichtete G. Michael Amir und R. Philipps was der Arzt fragte. Er sagte es auch Frank Dileo.
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Gongaware said he responded that it wasn't going to work. He said this was the first time he spoke with Dr. Murray.
G. sagte, dass dies nicht funktionieren würde. Er sagte es war das erste Mal das er mit Murray sprach.
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"It was ridiculous," Gongaware said about the amount asked. "It was a lot of money for something like that and Michael could not afford it."
„Es war unverschämt“ sagt G. über den Betrag den er fragte „ Es war eine Menge Geld für sowas und Michael konnte sich das nicht leisten“108. ABC7 Court News @ABC7Courts 11h
"He said he would need $5 million," Gongaware recalled. "He said he has 4 clinics to close, would lay off people, need $5 million for that."
„Er sagte er würde 5 Mio. Dollar benötigen“ sagt G. „Er sagte er müsse 4 Kliniken schließen, Leute freistellen, er benötige 5 Mio. dafür.“
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Gongaware said he thought Dr. Murray was expecting his call and was aware of MJ's desire to take him on tour.
G. sagt aus, dass er dachte, dass Dr. Murray seinen Anruf erwartete und ihm war MJ`s Anfrage wegen Tour bekannt.
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Gongaware called Murray on behalf of MJ saying singer wanted to take him to London. "What do you want to be paid for that," Gongaware asked
G. rief Murray im Namen von MJ an, sagte der Sänger wolle ihn mit nach London nehmen. „Was stellen Sie sich für ein Gehalt vor?, fragte Gongaware.
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Gongaware testified he didn't have MJ's direct phone number, would go through Michael Amir Williams, MJ's personal assistant, to reach him.
G. sagt aus, dass er nicht MJs direkte Nummer hatte, er musste über Michael Amir, seinen persönl. Assistenten gehen um ihn zu erreichen.
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Gongaware said he then called Dr. Murray to work out a deal.
G. sagte er rief dan Dr. Murray wegen des Deals an.
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Gongaware said Dr. Murray treated MJ for about three years before 2009. He knew the doctor was from Las Vegas but said he was in LA.
G. sagt das Dr. Murray MJ seit 3 Jahren vor 2009 behandelte. Er wußte der Arzt ist von Las Vegas aber sagte er war in LA.
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As to MJ asking to take care of the machine, Gongaware said he understood it to be that every night MJ would have to do be ready to perform
Bezügl. MJ „auf die Maschine zu achten, G. sagt er verstand es so, dass MJ jede Nacht für die Performance bereit sein musste
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Gongaware said the suggestion for London doctor was due to the cost; paying doctor full time was much more expensive then hiring local doc.
Gongaware der Vorschlag für einen London-Arzt war wegen der Kosten, einen Arzt Vollziet zu zahlen ist wesentlich teurer als einen lokalen Arzt anzuheuern
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Putnam: Did you worry MJ might have a health issue? Gongaware: No P: Why not? G: He seemed fine to me, had a physical and passed
Putman: Hatten Sie Angst, dass MJ Gesundheitsprobleme hat? Gongaware: Nein
P: Warum nicht? G: Ihm schien es gut zu gehen
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Gongaware said he's been on tour before where an artist had chiropractors, but couldn't remember being in one with a doctor.
Gongaware sagte er war auf Tour und ein Künstler wollte einen Chiropraktiker, aber kann sich nicht erinnern auf einer mit einem Arzt gewesen zu sein.
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Gongaware said other artists take doctors as well, so he was not the only one and it didn't surprise him.
Gongaware sagte andere Künstler haben auch Ärzte, er war nicht der Einzige der es wollte.
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Putnam: Were you surprised he wanted to take his doctor on tour? Gongaware: No P: Why not? G: He had doctors before
Putnam: Waren Sie überrascht das er seinen Arzt auf der Tour wollte? Gongaware: Nein: P: Warum nicht? G: Er hatte Ärzte zuvor.
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"This is the machine, we have to take care of the machine. I want Conrad," Gongaware said Michael responded.
„Das ist die Maschine auf die wir Acht geben müssen, ich möchte Conrad“ antworte MJ zu Gongware laut G.
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Gongaware said he suggested to Michael to get a licensed doctor in London who would know the lay of the land, in case of need.
Gongware sagte er schlug MJ vor einen lizensierten Arzt für London zu erhalten
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At one point Gongaware said he learned from MJ about doctor named Murray. "He came to me and said he wanted his personal doctor on the tour"
An einem Punkt sagt Gongaware erfuhr er über MJs Arzt mit Namen Murray. „Er kam zu mir und sagte er wolle seinen persönl. Arzt auf der Tour.“
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Defendants were trying to establish a pattern that all the money spent was actually MJ's money, not AEG's, just like with Dr. Murray.
Verteidigung versucht zu verdeutlichen, das das Geld was ausgegeben wurde aktuell MJ`s Geld war, nicht AEG`s genauso mit Dr.. Murray.
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Answer from Gongaware: This is not AEG money, it's MJ's money so it takes a lot of time to get approvals.
Antwort von Gongaware: Das ist nicht das Geld von AEG, das ist MJ`s Geld und es benötigt eine Menge Zeit die Genehmigung zu erhalten.
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Putnam showed email chain from Ortega to Gongaware asking to make a deal with choreographer Travis Payne.
Puntman zeigt E-Mail von Ortega an Gongware fragend den Deal mit Choreograph T. Payne zu machen.
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"He wanted to do biggest, best show ever, live show," Gongaware said.
„Er wollte die beste Live-Show aller Zeiten machen“ sagt Gongaware127. ABC7 Court News @ABC7Courts 11h
The 3D songs would be Thriller, Earth Song and Smooth Criminal. Email from Ortega to Gongaware saying MJ had big dreams for the shows.
3D-Songs würden Thriller, Erath Song, Smooth Criminal sein. E-Mail von Ortega an Gongaware, sagt MJ hat große Träume für die Show.

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Gongaware said the big screen on the back of the stage was 3D capable. The audience would be given glasses when they entered the show.
Gongaware sagt der große Bildschirm hinter der Bühne war 3D fähig. Dem Publikum würden Brillen ausgegeben wenn sie in die Show kommen
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Gongaware said 1st idea was to make MJ float from the audience, but they couldn't make it work. So they decided to lower him down on stage
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We're hoping to get a copy of the video to show it this on today's @ABC7 Eyewitness News and http://www.abc7.com
Wir hoffen eine Kopie des Vids zu erhalten und es später auf…… zu zeigen.131. ABC7 Court News @ABC7Courts 11h
Putnam showed a presentation of how the LED suit idea would work. Footage is not on TII documentary because it was early stages of prep.
Putnam zeigt eine Präsentation wie die LED-Anzug Idee wirken würde. Material ist nicht in der TII-Doku weil es frühe Phase der Vorbereitung war.

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Michael would be lower down onto the stage, Gongaware described. He called the LED suit a "Moon man" suit, but Ortega called it "Light man."


Edit: Das letzte Stück Gongoware-Aussage ist hier in Post 99 und 98 nachlebar von Maja

http://www.mjjackson-forever.com/index.php?page=Thread&postID=227446#post227446

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Dancers auditions took place at the Nokia Theater on April 13, 14, 15. MJ attended the last day and made the final decision, Gongaware said.
Tänzerauditons fanden in Nokia Theater am 13., 14, 15 april statt. MJ nahm am letzten Tag teil und traf endgültige Entscheidung, sagt. G.
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MJ was a grown man with capability to make decisions regarding his health and medical care, Gongaware explained.
MJ war ein erwachsener Mann mit der Fähigkeit Entscheidungen für seine Gesundheit und med. Pflege zu treffen, sagte G.
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Gongaware said MJ was ultimately responsible for his own health: "I think everyone is responsible for their own health and well being."
G. sagt MJ ist letztlich für seine Gesundheit verantwortlich. „Ich denke jeder hat Verantwortung für seine eigene Gesundheit und sein Wohlbefinden.“
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Putnam: Did AEG pay Dr. Murray any kind of money? Gongaware: No
Putnam: Hat AEG Dr. Muray Geld gezahlt? G. Nein.
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Putnam: Do you have any understanding as to whether a contract with Dr. Murray was executed? Gongaware: One never was
P. Haben Sie ein Verständnis das ein Vertrag mit Dr. Murray abgeschlossen wurde?
G: Wurde nie72. ABC7 Court News @ABC7Courts 7h
Gongaware said he passed Dr. Murray on to Timm Wooley, never had any other conversation with Dr. Murray about him possibly going to London.
G. sagte er übergab Dr. Murray n T. Wooley, hatte keine andere Unterhaltung mit ihm über möglicherweise nach London zu gehen
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Gongaware said this was a message for MJ, that he had done what he asked. He didn't receive any response back from Michael Amir Williams.
G. sagte, das war eine Nachricht für MJ, das er gemacht hat für das er erfragt hatte. Er erhielt keine Anwort zurück von Michal Amir.
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After the call, Gongaware said he let Michael Amir Williams know what the result was in an email. "Done at 150k per month, per MJ."
Nach dem Anruf, sagte G, ließ er Michael Amir über das Resultat in einer E-Mail wissen. „Erledigt 150000 Dollar pro Monat, durch MJ“
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Gongaware recalled Dr. Murray saying he would probably need an assistant and some equipment, but no details were given at this point.
G. erinnert sich, dass Dr. Murray sagte, dass er wahrscheinlich einen Asssistenten und Aussattung benötige, aber keine Details wurden gegeben zu dem Zeitpunkt.
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They talked about Dr. Murray's request for a house in London, and the doctor said he would need a three bedroom house.
Sie sprachen über Dr. Murrays Anfrage für ein Haus in London und der Arzt wollte ein 3-Schlafzimmer-Haus.
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Gongaware inquired Dr. Murray how he would get a license in London and the doctor told him not to worry about it.
G. fragte Murray wie er einen Lizenz für London bekommen wollen und der Arzt sagte ihm keine Angst dafür zu haben.
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Gongaware said Michael approved the amount of compensation. "Michael told me offer 150," Gongaware recalled. "And that's what I did."
G. sagte Michael genehmigte den Betrag der Ausgaben. „Michael sagte mir „Biete 150“ und das machte ich“.
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Gongaware told him the offer came directly from the artist and Dr. Murray responded: I'll take it.
G. sagte ihm das Angebot kommt dirket vom Künstler und Dr. Murray sagte:
Ich nehme es an.
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Gongaware called Dr. Murray, said he was authorized to offer him $150k a month. He said Dr. Murray responded that he couldn't do it for that
G. rief Murray an, sagte er sein autorisiert im 150000 Dollar/Monat zu bieten. Murray sagte er könne es nicht für das Geld machen.
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Gongaware said he heard MJ in the car saying "offer 150, offer 150." Gongaware understood that to be $150k/month.
G. sagte er hörte MJ im Auto sagen „biete 150, biete 150“ G. verstand 150k/Monat
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The second call about Dr. Murray came from Michael Amir Williams saying they were going to need to get a deal done for the doctor.
Der 2. Anruf an Murray kam von Michael Amir, sagend das man den Deal mit Murray machen solle.
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But Dr. Finkelstein would've done it for free, since he was on the Dangerous tour before and had a lot of fun.
Aber Dr. Finkelstein hätte es kostenlos gemacht, seitdem er auf der Dangerous Tour war und dort eine Menge Freude hatte.
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Dr. Finkelstein, a friend of Gongaware, said a doctor should charge $10,000 a month for the tour work.
Dr. Finkelstein ein Freund von G. sagte eine Arzt sollte 10000 Dollar/Monat für die Tourarbeit erhalten.
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"It wasn't surprising he wanted a doctor," Gongaware expressed.
„Es überraschte micht nicht das er einen Arzt wollte“86. ABC7 Court News @ABC7Courts 8h
As how MJ was, Gongaware said he was great. He didn't think he had relapsed, was using painkillers again and said MJ had always been thin.
Wie MJ war, G. sagt gorßartig. Er dachte nicht das er Schmerzmittel nimmt, MJ war immer dünn.
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Gongaware said he never did background check on anyone he hired and had he done one on Dr. Murray, it would've been out of the ordinary.
G. sagt er machte niemals einen Backgroundcheck über irgendjemand den er anstellte und wenn er einen über Murray gemacht hätte wäre es etwas Außergewöhnliches.
88. ABC7 Court News @ABC7Courts 10h
Sounds like Juror 12 is ok. Judge bringing him out to inquire.
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"I just expect doctors to be ethical, the financial side of their lives shouldn't have impact on their medical decision," Gongaware opined.
„Ich erwarte das Ärzte ethisch sind, die finanzielle Seite ihres Lebens sollte keinen Einfluss auf die medizin. Entscheidungen haben“ sagt G.
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Gongaware said it never crossed his mind to either do a background check on Dr. Murray or to suggest to anyone to do it.
G. sagt es kam ihn nie in den Sinn einen Backgroundcheck über Murray zu machen oder es jemanden vorzuschlagen.
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Gongaware said he doesn't think a doctor's financial situation has anything to do with being an ethical doctor.
G. sagt er denkt nicht das eine finanzielle Situation eines Arztes damit verknüpft ist ob er ethisch ist.

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"I think the live audience would be just captivated by it," Gongaware said about the little girl running after the last plant on Earth song.
„Ich denke Pbulikum wäre gefesselt davon“ sagt G. über das kleine Mädchen beim Earth song
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Gongaware said they had to build the bulldozer like a prop. It would appear at the end of the song on stage.
G. sagte sie hatten den Buldozer wie einen echten nachzubilden. Er würde am Ende des Songs auf der Bühne erscheinen33. ABC7 Court News @ABC7Courts 7h
Putnam: A real bulldozer? Gongaware: I wish, it would've been cheaper, but it would have crushed our ramps
Putnam: Ein echter Bulldozer? Gongaware: Ich wünschte, es wäre billiger zu haben, aber er hätte unsere Rampen zerkleinert
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The mini-movie of "Earth" a bulldozer would come out from a ramp in center stage.
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Gongaware said he didn't remember any of the footage been removed because of how MJ looked. "We just let the footage speak for itself."
G. sagt, er erinnert sich nicht das Material aus dem Film entfernt wurde wegen des Aussehens von MJ „Wir ließen das Material für sich selbst sprechen“36. ABC7 Court News @ABC7Courts 7h
Putnam: Did you try to alter in anyway how Mr. Jackson looked, appeared? Gongaware: No
Putnam: Haben Sie versucht, zu ändern wie Mr. Jackson erschien? Gongaware: Nein
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Putnam showed clip from TII with making of Thriller 3D and Jackson wearing red jacket.
Putnam zeigte den Clip von TII wo er Thriller 3 D macht und Jackson eine rote Jacke trägt.
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Putnam: Did you remove anything from the movie? Gongaware: No
Punam: Haber Sie etwas vom Film entfernt? Gongaware: Nein39. ABC7 Court News @ABC7Courts 7h
Regarding email Phillips sent Gongaware directing to remove MJ's "skeletal" scenes Gongaware said he didn't take anything out of the movie.
[B]Betreffend der Email von Philpps an G. anweisend die MJ skeletale Szene zu entfernen sagte G. sie haben nichts aus dem Film entfernt.[/b
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Putnam showed clip of MJ in front of green screen with 11 dancers, who would become 11,000. Gongaware said MJ was great at this point.
Putnahm zeigte den Clip von MJ in Front von einem grünen Schirm mit 11 Tänzern die 11000 wurden. G. sagt MJ war großartig zu diesem Zeitpunkt
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Email cont'd: A gentile, loving man who does care about people. "The shows were going to be spectacular," Gongaware said.
E-Mail-Fortsetzung. „ Ein freundlicher, liebenswerter Mann der sich um Menschen kümmert. Die Shows werden spektakulär, sagt G.
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Email cont'd: Hey look. No skin cancer. He's just a good dad, loving raising his kids. His art and his craft are paramount.
E_Mail.: Hey schau, kein Hautkrebs. Er ist nur ein guter Vater, der es liebt seine Kinder aufzuziehen. Seine Kunst und sein Handwerk stehen im Vordergrund .
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Email cont'd: Taking it one step further. When people realize that bulls**t the press has been, they will be in receptive mood for the truth
E.Mail: Einen Schritt weitergehen. Wenn die Leute realisieren es ist Bullshit was die Presse schreibt werden sie in Stimmung für die Wahrheit sein.
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Email cont'd: Sang every one, he was amazing, captivating, riveting. And he's just getting started.
E-Mail Fortsetzung: Sang jeden Song, er war fantasitsch, fesselend. Und er beginnt erst.45.
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Email cont'd: I'm here to tell you that be will. I have seen it for myself. Last night he ran 9 songs with full band, singers and dancers.
E_Mail-Fortsetzung. „Ich bin hier und sage wie es sein wird. Ich habe es selbst gesehen. Letzte Nacht machte er 9 Songs mit der vollen Band, Sänger und Tänzer“

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Gongaware on 6/5/09 in response to Sunday Mirror Query: "We can only make this work, of course, if MJ puts on the best show of his life.
Gongawares Antwort am 5.6.09 in Antwort an die Sunday Mirror: „Wir können nur diese Arbeit machen, weil MJ die beste Show seines Lebens macht“
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An amazing show would be the answer, Gongaware said.
Eine tolle Show wird die Antwort sein, sagt G.
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Gongaware testified he woke up to one gossip headline pretty much every day. His idea was simply to ignore the tabloids.
G. sagte er wachte auf mit jedem Tag eine neue Gossip-Schlagzeile. Seine Idee war die Tabloids zu ignorieren.
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In one, it said MJ had asked AEG to reduce the number of shows by half. Gongaware said that such a discussion never happened.
In einer sagte es MJ habe AEG angefragt die Zahl der Shows zu halbieren. G. sagte so eine Diskussion gab es nie.
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Putnam went through chain of email about tabloid reports in the UK regarding MJ.
Putnam ging durch Emails über Tabloid-Reporter in der UK über MJ.
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Gongaware said he never told security guard to get MJ to rehearsals, whatever it takes. He said he never told anyone to get MJ 2 rehearsals
G. sagt, er teilte niemals den Sicherheitsleuten mit MJ zu den Proben zu bringen. Er sagte nie jemanden MJ zu den Proben zu bringen.
52. ABC7 Court News @ABC7Courts 7h
Michael Jackson rehearsal venues: Mar 28- Center Staging May 27- Forum June 23 - Staples Center July 13 - O2 Arena
MJ Proben- Orte
Mar 28- Center Staging
June 23 Staples Center
Juli 13 O2 Arena
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Gongaware said while they were rehearsing at Center Staging, he was not concerned with MJ's health.
G. sagt während sie im Center Staging probten hatten sie keine Besorgnis über MJs Gesundheit
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He said if the rumor about the cancer were true, they would've to deal with a lot to accommodate the shows.
Er sagte, wenn das Gerücht über den Krebs wahr wäre, hätten sie sich nicht damit beschäftigt um die Shows unterzubringen.
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Gongaware said he was not concerned. "If there was something going on, if he had cancer, we would've heard about it."
G. sagte er war nicht besorgt „Wenn es etwas gäbe, wenn er Krebs hätte, häten sie davon gehört“
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Email cont'd: We don't have to sell tickets, so we can just sit back and prove them wrong by just doing it.
Email-Fortsetzung: Wir brauchen keine Tickets zu verkaufen, wir können uns zurücklehnen und zeigen es ist falsch (beim Zeigen der Show)

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Email cont'd: Our redemption will be when he does his shows, that makes all of this build up so damn sweet.
Fortsetzung Email: Unsere Erlösung wird sein, wenn er seine Shows macht, das macht den Aufbau so verdammt süß.
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Gongaware on 5/27/09: The Kid is healthy and rehearsing every day. He was still there at dance rehearsals at 9pm last night when I left.
G. am 27.05.09: Das Kind ist gesund und probt jeden Tag. Er war noch da als ich die Probe um 9pm verließ

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The Sun claimed MJ had skin cancer on his chest. "It was sport over in London," Gongaware said about MJ's stories on tabloids.
Die Sun sagte MJ hat Krebs. „Es war Sport in London“ sagt er über die MJ-Stories in den Tabloids.
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Gongaware said the media in the UK was going wild with gossip about Michael Jackson. "They just lie about things."
G. sagte die Medien in der UK brachten Gossip über MJ „Sie logen über die Dinge“

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Gongaware said during the period at Center Staging, MJ was good, engaging, didn't think MJ had any health issues or was using drugs.
G. sagt während der Zeit im Center Staging sagte er MJ war gut, engagiert, dachte nicht an Gesundheitsprobleme oder Drogengebrauch.62. ABC7 Court News @ABC7Courts 7h
He said he wasn't sure what he would use the video for, but thought the website would be a good platform.
Er sagte er wusste nicht für was er das Videomaterial braucht, dachte die Webseite wäre ein gute Plattform.
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The cost for crew to shoot the audition was very high, so Gongaware bought couple of cameras and use his own crew to shoot the rehearsals.
Die Kosten für die Mannschaft um die Audtion aufzunehmen waren hoch, so G. , so dass er eigene Kameras kaufte und eine seine eigene Crew anstellte.
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Gongaware said Ortega wanted to film the audition to use fresh footage on
G. sagte Ortega wollte den Film über die Auditons um neues Material für http://michaeljacksonlive.com zu haben
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Putnam played a clip of the dancers audition. Gongaware said MJ was very involved and chose the dancers.
P. spielte einen Cip von den Tanzauditions. G. sagte MJ war sehr involviert und wählte die Tänzer

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1. ABC7 Court News @ABC7Courts 6h
Next scheduled witness is AEG Live CEO Randy Phillips. There will be no trial this coming Friday. Hope to see you all tomorrow!
Der nächste Zeuge ist Philpps. Kein Prozess am Freitag.
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2. ABC7 Court News @ABC7Courts 7h
That wrapped Day 22 of the trial. Paul Gongaware resumes testifying tomorrow. Attorneys are expected to finish with him by end of day.
Sie beendeten den 22. Prozesstag. Gongaware wird Morgen mit der Aussage fortfahren. Anwälte erwarten dann die Aussage zu beenden.
3. ABC7 Court News @ABC7Courts 7h
Gongaware said that on 6/20/09 he did not think MJ's health was deteriorating. Gongaware and Phillips were concerned with MJ's well being.
G. sagte das am 20.06.09 er nicht dachte, dass sich MJs Gesundheit verschlechterte.
G. u. Philipps waren besorgt um sein Wohlergehen.
4. ABC7 Court News @ABC7Courts 7h
Putnam: Did anyone tell you they were concerned with the care Dr. Murray was giving to MJ? Gongaware: No
P: Sagte Ihnen jemand das er besorgt ist, dass. Dr. Murray etwas MJ gibt? G. Nein.
5. ABC7 Court News @ABC7Courts 7h
Putnam: Did anyone tell you at this point that MJ needed a drug addiction specialist? Gongaware: No
Putnam: Sagte Ihnen jemand das zu diesem Zeitüunkt einen Drogenspezialist benötigt wird? G: Nein
6. ABC7 Court News @ABC7Courts 7h
Gongaware said he believed MJ wanted to go on tour. He said he doesn't remember anyone talking about pulling the plug on the shows.
G. sagte er glaubte das MJ auf Tour gehen wollte. Er sagt er erinnert sich nicht, das jemand sagte die Stecker der Show zu ziehen.
7. ABC7 Court News @ABC7Courts 7h
Gongaware: If his patient is sick and he's your only patient, doctor should be there!
G: Wenn Dein Patient krank ist und es ist der einzige Patient, der Doktor sollte da sein!
8. ABC7 Court News @ABC7Courts 7h
"If the meeting was going to be about what happened that night, the doctor should be there," Gongaware said.
„Wenn das Treffen darüber geht was letzte Nacht passierte, dann sollte der Arzt dabei sein“ sagt G.9.
ABC7 Court News @ABC7Courts 7h
Gongaware said on 6/19/09, he was out of town. "This is the day Michael had chills at rehearsal and was apparently sick," Gongaware recalled
G. sagte am 19.06.09 war er außerhalb der Stadt. „Das ist der Tag wo Michael Schüttelfrost hatte und offensichtlich krank war“ sagt G.
10. ABC7 Court News @ABC7Courts 7h
Gongaware testified he didn't recall having any concern about MJ's health/using painkillers as of Monday 6/15/09, 10 days prior to his death
G. sagt er erinnert sich nicht Sorge über MJ`s Gesundheit oder die Nutzung von Schmerzmittel gehabt zu haben bis zum Montag 15.06.09, 10 Tage vor seinem Tod
11. ABC7 Court News @ABC7Courts 7h
As to Bugzee's email saying MJ needed cheeseburgers, brats and beers, Gongaware said Bugzee was joking, Bugzee cared very much for MJ.
Zu Bugzee`s Mail das sagt das MJ Cheesburger, Bratwurt und Bier braucht, sagt G. Bugzee war am Spaßen. Er kümmerte sich sehr um MJ.
12. ABC7 Court News @ABC7Courts 7h
Putnam showed email from Travis Payne, he suggested massage chair 2 be put in MJ's dressing room. Gongaware said it wasn't callous treatment
Putnam ziegte Email von T. Payne, er schlug vor einen MassageStuhl in MJs Umkleideraum zu bringen. G. sagt das wahr keine gefühllose Behandlung.
13. ABC7 Court News @ABC7Courts 7h
"I made the deal with him (Ferrigno). He was supposed to be paid certain amount of money per session," Gongaware said.
„Ich machte den Deal mit ihm (Ferrigno). Er fragte einen Betrag zu erhalten pro Saison.“
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14. ABC7 Court News @ABC7Courts 7h
Gongaware said his understanding was that MJ hired a trainer of his choice, Louis (Lou) Ferrigno.
G. sagte sein Verständnis war es das MJ einen Trainer seiner Wahl anstellte, Louis Ferrigno
15. ABC7 Court News @ABC7Courts 7h
As to MJ being habitual late, Gongaware said the singer worked on his own schedule, did things his way.
Zu MJ gewöhnlich spätz zu sein, sagt G. das der Sänger nach seinem eigenen Plan arbeitet, auf seine Weise.

16. ABC7 Court News @ABC7Courts 7h
"Michael Jackson would be paying his salary, but AEG would advance the money," Gongaware testified.
„Michael Jackson würde sein Gehalt zahlen, aber AEG das Geld vorschießen“
Gongaware said he didn't remember writing/receiving the email, but never denied he did it.
G. sagt er erinnert sich nicht das Mail geschrieben/erhalten zu haben, aber verneinte nicht es gemacht zu haben
17. ABC7 Court News @ABC7Courts 7h
As to Gongaware's email saying AEG, not MJ, paid Dr Murray he said he mistaken. "We wouldn't pay his salary, we'd advance Michael's money"
Zu G.`s Email sagend AEG, nicht MJ zahlte Dr. Murray sagte er es war ein Fehler
„ Wir würden nicht sein Gehalt zahlen, wir würden Michaels Geld vorschießen“
18. ABC7 Court News @ABC7Courts 7h
Gongaware said he was never present on any meeting where anyone told Dr. Murray how to treat MJ.
G. sagt er war niemals auf irgendeinem Meeting wo irgendjemand Dr. Murray sagte wie er MJ behandeln solle.
19. ABC7 Court News @ABC7Courts 7h
"He's a doctor, he'd know better than anybody how to treat his patient," Gongaware said about Dr. Murray.
„Er ist ein Arzt und muss besser denn jeder wissen wie er seinen Patienten behandeln muss“ sagt G.
20. ABC7 Court News @ABC7Courts 7h
"Michael was engaged in the meeting, attentive, seemed happy we were having this meeting," Gongaware opined.
„Michael war engagiert im Meeting, bei der Sache, schien froh das wir das Meeting hatten“ sagte G.
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21. ABC7 Court News @ABC7Courts 7h
This was the first time Gongaware had with Dr. Murray. He said there were no signs of MJ being poorly treated by the doctor.
Es war das erste Mal das G. mit Dr. Murray zusammen war. Er sagte es gab keine Zeichen das er MJ armseelig behandelte.22. ABC7 Court News @ABC7Courts 7h
Gongaware said Dr. Murray was really engaged in the meeting, seemed like a very intelligent guy and wanted to take care of MJ very much.
G. sagt Murray war wirklich engagiert im Meeting, schien ein intelligenter Mann zu sein, der sich um MJ sehr kümmern wollte.
23.ABC7 Court News @ABC7Courts 7h
Gongaware said he had no idea Dr. Murray was giving MJ Propofol and first heard of the anesthetic after Michael died.
G. sagte er hatte keine Idee das Murray ihm Propfol gab und er hörte erstmals über das Mittel nach Michaels Tod.
24. ABC7 Court News @ABC7Courts 7h
Gongaware said neither Dr. Murray nor MJ talked about the treatment singer was receiving. The meeting was about nutrition, vitamin, therapy
G. sagte weder Murray noch MJ sprach über die Behandung des Sängers. Das Meeting ging über Ernährung, Vitamine, Therapie25.
ABC7 Court News @ABC7Courts 7h
Putnam: Do you recall anyone in that meeting ever tell Dr. Murray how he should be treating MJ? Gongaware: No
P: Erinnern Sie sich das irgendjemand im Meeting Dr. Murray sagte wie er MJ behandeln solle? G: Nein.
26. ABC7 Court News @ABC7Courts 7h
There was a meeting scheduled to discuss MJ's nutrition with Randy Phillips, Kenny Ortega, Dr. Murray, MJ, Gongaware and DiLeo.
Es gab ein Meeting, angesetzt um MJs Ernährung mit R. Philpps, Ortega, Dr. Murray, Gongaware und Dileo.
27. ABC7 Court News @ABC7Courts 7h
Gongaware said he met Dr. Murray once at MJ's Carolwood house and ran into him at The Forum during rehearsal.
G. sagte er traf Dr. Murray einmal in MJs Carolwood Haus und ran einmal in ihn während einer Probe im Forum
ABC7 Court News @ABC7Courts 7h
Gongaware said he didn't know if anyone was responsible for MJ's nourishment. Tour would be demanding and exhausting.
G. sagte er weiß nicht ob jemand für MJs Ernährung zuständig war. Die Tour wäre verlangend und erschöpfend.
29. ABC7 Court News @ABC7Courts 7h
The airplane door closes, MJ would actually take an elevator down and out of the building, but plane would take off over the audience.
Die Flugzeugtür schloss, MJ würde aktuell eine Aufzugtür nach unten nehmen, aber das Flugzeug geht über das Publikum30.
ABC7 Court News @ABC7Courts 7h
End of the show would be 3D animation. An airplane taxis up, door opens, Michael entered the plane.
Ende der Show würde eine 3 Animation sein.

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Anthony McCartney @mccartneyAP 3m

There was a lot of questioning this morning about Gongaware's first call with Murray, discussion of $5 million fee.
Es gab eine Menge Fragen wegen des ersten Telefonat von Gongaware mit Murray, diskutierend die 5-Millionen-Gebühr.

Anthony McCartney Anthony McCartney @mccartneyAP 5m

Jury also shown footage of Jackson trying out a cherry picker that would hoist him over the “This Is It” crowd.
Jury wurden auch Aufnahmen von Jackson gezeigt wo er einen Cherry Picker ausprobiert, der ihn über die "[lexicon]This is it[/lexicon]" Zuschauermenge schweben ließ..


Anthony McCartney Anthony McCartney @mccartneyAP 5m

... Jackson emerging from a figure wrapped in LED screens projecting various images. Gongaware said he called figure "Moon Man."
Dies hatte die Funktion das Jackson aus einer Figur eingepackt im LED Bildschirm in verschiedenen Bilder zeigt. Gongaware sagte er nannte die Figur "Moon Man."

Anthony McCartney Anthony McCartney @mccartneyAP 5m

Several clips from “This Is It” film were shown this morning. Included a clip showing proposed show opening. This was to feature ... (cont)
Mehrere Clips "[lexicon]This is it[/lexicon]"-Film wurden gezeigt an diesem Morgen. Auch ein Clip der das vorgeschlagene Show -Opening zeigt.

Anthony McCartney Anthony McCartney @mccartneyAP 6m

Gongaware: “When it was kind of game time, he was going to show up,” he said of Jackson's London shows.
Gongaware: "Wenn es Spielzeit war, zeigte er sich," sagte er von Jacksons London-Shows.

Anthony McCartney Anthony McCartney @mccartneyAP 6m

For instance, Gongaware cited an outdoor concert in Bangkok in in high heat, humidity. “He nailed it,” he said of Jackson.
Zum Beispiel zitiert Gongaware ein Konzert im Freien in Bangkok in in großer Luftfeuchtigkeit. "Er nagelte es", sagte er von Jackson.

Anthony McCartney Anthony McCartney @mccartneyAP 6m

Gongaware testified he had no doubts about Jackson’s fitness to perform the “This Is It” shows. He cited previous successes by Jackson.
Gongaware sagte aus, er habe keine Zweifel an Jacksons Fitness zur Durchführung der "[lexicon]This is it[/lexicon]"-Show gehabt. Er zitierte die bisherigen Erfolge von Jackson.
Anthony McCartney Anthony McCartney @mccartneyAP 6m

Gongaware said there wasn’t a requirement for Jackson to rehearse. Said he’s never seen a requirement for musicial artist to rehearse.
Gongaware sagte, es gab keine Anforderung für Jackson zu proben. Er sagte er hat noch nie eine Anforderung für Künstler zum Proben gesehen.

Anthony McCartney Anthony McCartney @mccartneyAP 7m

Gongaware email: “Figure it out so it looks like he’s not working so much.” He told jury Jackson was comfortable with the show schedule.
Gongware E-Mail: "Stelle es aus, so dass es aussieht, dass er nicht so viel arbeitet.." Er sagte Jackson war in Ordnung mit den Showterminen.
Anthony McCartney Anthony McCartney @mccartneyAP 7m

The jury was shown an email in which Gongaware worked with a staffer to create a calendar to show Jackson. He wanted colors changed.
He wanted the calendar to be changed so that it reflected Jackson's show dates and off days differently.
Der Jury wurde eine E-Mail gezeigt in der Gongware mit einer Mitarbeiterin an einer Kalendererstellung für Jackson arbeitete. Er wollte die Farben geändert haben. Er wollte den Kalender geändert haben so dass die Showtage und die Off-Tage verschieden aussehen


Gongaware said this wasn’t a rigorous schedule since there would be no traveling. On “HIStory” tour, he said they did 10-12 shows per month
Gongaware sagte, dies war kein strenger Zeitplan, da keine Reise anstehen würden. Bei der "[lexicon]HIStory[/lexicon]"-Tour gab es 10-12 Shows pro Monat
Anthony McCartney Anthony McCartney @mccartneyAP 8m

In Jan. and February of 2010, there were 10 shows planned per month. Three were planned in March 2010. No back-to-back shows.
In Januar und Februar 2010 gab es 10 Shows pro Monat. Drei waren im März 2010 geplant. Keine Rücken an Rücken-Shows.
Anthony McCartney Anthony McCartney @mccartneyAP 8m

In July 2009 there were 8 shows scheduled, 10 in August and 9 in September. Then they’d take rest of ’09 off.
m Juli 2009 waren 8 Shows geplant, 10 im August und im September 9. Dann würde der Rest in 09 Pause sein.
Anthony McCartney Anthony McCartney @mccartneyAP 8m

First questions of the day centered on “This Is It” scheduling. Jury was shown calendar of all 50 show dates.
Erste Fragen des Tages zentriert auf die "[lexicon]This is it[/lexicon]" Terminierung. Jury wurde alle 50 Showtermine gezeigt.
Anthony McCartney Anthony McCartney @mccartneyAP 9m

Gongaware is being questioned by defense attorney Marvin Putnam. He told him his testimony “shouldn’t be too much longer.” 2 days, he said.
Gongaware wird von Verteidiger Marvin Putnam befragt. Er sagte ihm seine Aussage "sollte nicht viel länger dauern." 2 Tage sagte er.
Anthony McCartney Anthony McCartney @mccartneyAP 9m

We’re no a break in Katherine Jackson vs AEG Live trial. Executive Paul Gongaware resumed testifying this morning.
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Jacksons vs AEG - Day 21 – May 31 2013 – Summary

Katherine and Rebbie Jackson are at court.


Paul Gongaware

AEG Cross

Putnam asked Gongaware if he had any understanding as to why MJ was taking painkiller. Gongaware: Before 3rd leg of Dangerous tour started, he had scalp surgery, hit nerve or something it was very painful; was treated for that . "When he did the Pepsi commercial, his hair was burn at the top," Gongaware explained, saying they did surgery so hair would look natural. "I didn't know it was an addiction," Gongaware said, and that he learned MJ had drug problems after Mexico City. (ABC7)

Gongaware did a Rod Stewart tour in North America after Dangerous tour. He next worked with Michael in the "HIStory" tour in 1996/97. (ABC7)

Gongaware said he did not have a general concern with MJ having a drug addiction. After shows ended in Hawaii, Michael had lost $27 million, was in debt $11 million to lighting and sound, Gongaware testified. He switched managers to fixed things up in yhe second half of the tour, Gongaware explained. Gongaware said he had to cut lot of expenses. They wanted to give Michael the same show, but he said there was so much excess to be trimmed. Second half of the tour, Gongaware was the tour executive and he worked directly for MJ. It netted $14 million, $11 million paid vendors. We got the tour to break even, Gongaware testified, saying he worked closely with Jackson on the second half of the tour.(ABC7)

Putnam: Was there an ongoing concern Mr. Jackson was having problems with painkillers during the HIStory tour? Gongaware: No, not at all . Gongaware said he didn't see anything that would suggest Michael was addicted to painkillers. The exec testified MJ didn't have doctor traveling with him on the second half of the tour and there was no tour doctor with the tour. Putnam: How was MJ on the HIStory tour? Gongaware: Great! He was sensational! Gongaware said MJ only missed one show on HIStory tour when Princess Diana died. "He went to bed, knew about the accident.". MJ was told Diana was going to be okay and next morning he learned she died, Gongaware described. "That affected him greatly." Gongaware said he missed shows in Dangerous tour but not in HIStory tour. Putnam asked if there were signs MJ was using painkillers during HIStory tour. "No indication at all. I didn't think he was," Gongaware said. Gongaware said he would certainly notice if there was any problem during that tour. Gongaware said when he went on tour with MJ in HIStory, he wasn't on any drug. (ABC7) Gongaware also said he didn’t recall a doctor being on that tour, despite doctors being present on “Dangerous” tour. (AP)

Gongaware said HIStory tour was pretty smooth. It ended in 1997. Right after, Gongaware said Michael called him as asked him to work for him. "He liked my work, he liked what I did," Gongaware said, adding that MJ wanted him to be his business manager. Gongaware said he didn't accept the offer and decided to go out on his own to promote concerts. He was tempted, Gongaware said, but he had lined up what he wanted to do. He worked with Yani next. (ABC7) Instead, Gongaware went on tour with Yanni. “It was tempting, but I wanted to do other things. I wanted to be out on my own,” he said. (AP)

AEG defense attorney Marvin Putnam then asked Gongaware to describe the founding of his company, and its purchase by AEG. Gongaware had co-founded a new version of a company called Concerts West. After it was sold, it became AEG Live. (AP) Gongaware and his partner, John Meglen, created Concerts West in the late 90s. Concerts West started out with concerts of Andrea Bocceli, Mariah Carrey, Eagles and Millennium at Staples Center. AEG acquired the assets of Concerts West around 2000, Gongaware said, and Concerts West became AEG Live. Randy Phillips is AEG's CEO.Gongaware said he made a deal that requires him to work only half time starting this year. (ABC7)

Putnam then asked Gongaware about plaintiffs’ contention that AEG was desperate for “This Is It” because it wanted to pass rival Live Nation. “It’s so much bigger,” AEG Live exec Paul Gongaware said of Live Nation. “It is so much more complicated.” He said that Live Nation has to find artists to fill the many venues it owns, and that AEG Live doesn’t have that issue. (AP) Gongaware said AEG Live is the second largest concert promoter company. Live Nation is the first. "Our philosophy is different," Gongaware said, adding they choose what they want to do, whereas Live Nation has to meet their quota. Putnam: Wounded you like to be number 1? Gongaware: No. It's so much bigger, it gets so much more complex. I'm happy being a good number 2 (ABC7)

Next time Gongaware worked with MJ was in "This Is It" tour. Peter Lopez, MJ's attorney, called Gongaware's partner in 2007, asked to meet. From 97 to 2009, MJ did not do any touring, only a couple of shows. Gongaware said he went to Vegas to meet with Michael in 2007. The meeting was to discuss how AEG did tours, didn't talk about MJ touring. They met again in 2008 also in Vegas. "Paul Gongaware! I knew that if you came, things were going to be ok," Michael said about him. (ABC7) Gongaware said Jackson remembered him and told him re: “HIStory” tour, “Whenever I saw you, I knew things were going to be OK.” (AP)

Putnam asked about Gongaware’s use of the term “Mikey” to describe Jackson. Gongaware said he used it with Jackson. He described Jackson as getting in playful moods, and that’s when he would call Jackson “Mikey.” Said he wasn’t mocking him. (AP) Mikey was not meant as insult, Gongaware said. He was not trying to mock him, would use Mikey in person with MJ. (ABC7)

Putnam: Did he seem thin in 07? Gongaware: Yes, he was always thin
Putnam: Did he seem to have a problem with painkillers? Gongaware: No P: Did he seem to be under the influence? G: No (ABC7)

Gongaware said MJ was alert, engaged, interested on what was going on in the meeting in 2007. He wanted to do a King Tut mini-movie. The next meeting with MJ was in NY. Gongaware didn't remember what they discussed. Sometime in 08, they began discussion of MJ going back on tour. Dr. Tohme, MJ's manager, approached AEG. Randy Phillips was primarily the one involved in the discussions with Dr. Tohme and Peter Lopez regarding the comeback tour. The meeting in 2008 began with discussion of a possible MJ exhibit at the Hilton in Las Vegas. (ABC7)

Colony Capital is an investment company that bought the note of Neverland, Gongaware said. By 'note' he meant the 'mortgage'. Neverland was MJ's residence in Santa Barbara, Gongaware explained. "They (Colony) were trying to figure out what to do with Neverland." (ABC7)

Gongaware talked about being at MJ's house at Carolwood when the singer signed the contract with AEG for the "This Is It" tour. Michael read everything in the contract, Gongaware said. He remembered MJ being engaged, alert and paying attention. "He was good." "I felt great about it," Gongaware said. "It was a MJ tour, it was a great thing." Gongaware said he watched Michael pretty carefully in the meetings, he knew MJ went to rehab, but he didn't see any signs of drug problems. (ABC7)

Gongaware said he was aware of the physical exam done on Jackson after the signing of the tour.Email on 2/11/09 from Bob Taylor to Gongaware: Thanks Paul. I now have the medical and blood reports. Look good. I now need more info of what is available. This will help with the presentation to the insurers. Another request from insurance broker: I would like to offer insurers a medical update say every 21 days. Response from Gongaware: I'm not ready to put anything in writing. Gongaware said it was because he didn't have the answers. Gongaware said he did not have concerns with MJ abusing prescription drugs. "It just confirmed what I believed, that he was fine. He wasn't doing any drugs," Gongaware said about the results of Mj's physical exam. (ABC7) A February 2009 email between him and the insurance broker showed that insurers wanted med checkups on Jackson every 21 days. The broker also wanted details on the concert set, dates, and other details that Gongaware said weren't decided on yet. “The back to back shows WILL be a problem,” the broker wrote Gongaware. Suggested adding them in after Jackson started performing shows. (AP)

AEG produced/promoted TII tour. "We needed to front all the money," Gongaware said. "He didn't have the money, so he needed us to do it." Tohme, MJ's manager, told AEG about needing the money. Gongaware said Tohme emphasized several times that Michael needed to make money.Gongaware said MJ and Ortega figured out the creative elements they wanted and Gongaware had to figure out how to make those them happen. Gongaware said the initial phase of rehearsal was done at Center Staging in Burbank, but venue didn't have room for production elements. They moved rehearsals to The Forum, which didn't have high ceiling to hang the lights. Then they moved to Staples Center. (ABC7)

After the morning break, Gongaware said MJ chose "This Is It" tour as the name because it was going to be his last. Gongaware said they weren't sure how MJ tour would do. "Because of the kid thing, we wanted 2 go 2 the strongest market and that as London". Gongaware: You never know what kind of business a tour will do. We had no idea the demand, we wanted to make sure it was successful. Initially, they had 31 shows scheduled. Gongaware said Prince had done 21 shows at the O2 arena, and Michael wanted to do 10 more. "You didn't know what the ticket sales would be," Gongaware said. So they announced only 10 shows to test the waters. "Demand was there obviously in the presale," Gongaware said. He talked to Tohme, asked for more than 50 shows. Tohme said MJ would do 50. (ABC7)

On March 5, 2009, MJ held a press conference in front of O2 arena and announced the comeback tour. Gongaware was present. MJ was not on time, late a couple of hours. Gongaware said it didn't surprise him since MJ didn't like to do those things (press conference) Gongaware was a little annoyed but not surprised, he testified, "MJ came up to me, gave me big hug, whispered in my ear 'make sure the TelePrompTer has big words, I don't have my glasses'" Gongaware said. Putnam: Did he seem inebriated? Gongaware: No P: Drunk? G: No P: Smelled like alcohol? G: No. Gongaware thought the presser was great. "The reaction of the press was really good, I think people liked he was returning." Gongaware said they asked people to register on a website and only people registered could get into the presale to purchase tickets. He said that based on the response, they knew the tour was going to be a major successful. (ABC7)

Gongaware said he was annoyed but not surprised when Jackson showed up a couple hours late.

“Michael really doesn’t like to do those things," Gongaware testified. "His schedules don’t always run like clockwork."

The tour announcement took place at the O2. When Jackson saw Gongaware backstage, "he came up to me and gave me a big hug and said, 'Make sure the teleprompter has big words. I don’t have my glasses.'”

Gongaware said Jackson did not smell of alcohol or appear drunk.

“He was good," the AEG executive testified. "I think he was excited." (LATimes)

One day after that, Gongaware said MJ called him to discuss the tour. He said Michael chose Kenny Ortega to direct the show. MJ liked special effects, Gongaware said. He put together presentation for Michael with latest effects and made MJ promise he would show up. Demonstration was on 3/16/09 at Sony Studios. It had 3D on LED that was never done before, pyro and new type of flame. Putnam showed clip of TII documentary where they ave the pyro effects that were going to be used. "Jackson loved it," Gongaware said, adding MJ didn't seem to be bothered with pyro usage. Gongaware said there was a pretty cool water fountain effect shown and not used. "It was messy," he described. In the demonstratiin, MJ was great, Gongaware said. "He was really engaged, as he saw all the effects he got really excited." Gongaware said he had no concern MJ had drug problems, didn't seem slow or lethargic in March of 2009. A meeting was scheduled for March 17, 09. Gongaware emailed MJ's assistant that only MJ and Kenny Ortega should be in that meeting. MJ and Ortega were the creative forces and needed to find the show's path before including everyone else, Gongaware explained. (ABC7)

Regarding Kenny Ortega watching out for MJ's health, Gongaware said no one at AEG asked him to do that. Gongaware thought Ortega watched MJ out because they were friends and worked together. (ABC7)

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Gongaware will join The Rolling Stones tour this weekend, but will return on Monday to resume testifying.


Zusammenfassung von Ivy MJJC #23

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Zusammenfassungen der vorangegangenen gerichtstage:
Day 1 - anträge u. eröffnungsstatements
Day 2 - anhörung und zeugen Senneff u. Martinez
Day 3 - forts. zeuge Martinez u. anhörung
Day 4 - forts. zeuge Martinez
Day 5 - zeugen Anderson und Rogers
Day 6 - zeuge Dr. Wohlgelernter
Day 7 - zeugin Sankey
Day 8 - zeugin Faye
Day 9 - forts. zeugin Faye
Day 10 - zeugen Walker, Rogers, Payne
Day 11 - forts. zeuge Payne
Day 12 - zeugin Hollander
Day 13 - M. Hom videodeposition, forts. zeugin Hollander
Day 14 - forts. zeugin Hollander; zeuge Trell
Day 14 fortsetzung - forts. zeuge Trell
Day 16 - forts. zeuge Trell
Day 17 - forts. zeuge Trell
Day 18 - zeuge Gongaware
Day 19 - forts. zeuge Gongaware
Day 20 - forts. zeuge Gongaware

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Tears, Emails and $24 Million Blown at Michael Jackson Trial

http://blogs.lawyers.com/2013/05/damaging-emails-in-michael-jackson-trial/

Posted May 28, 2013 in Personal Injury by Aaron Kase
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The Michael Jackson wrongful death trial concluded its fourth week with tears and more explosive emails documenting the relationship between the King of Pop, his doctor and his concert promoter.

Jackson’s mother Katherine burst into tears on Thursday while hearing about the pressure her son was under to perform for his scheduled This is It tour.

The singer died in 2009 from a prescription drug overdose administered by his personal physician, Conrad Murray, who was convicted of manslaughter in 2011. The lawsuit filed by Jackson’s family alleges that promotion company AEG Live was negligent in hiring Murray and pressured him to keep Jackson in shape to perform at the expense of his health.

On Monday, AEG Controller Julie Hollander continued her testimony, revealing that the company shelled out $24 million in preparation for the tour that never happened. AEG had budgeted $1.5 million to pay Murray, although Jackson never signed the contract authorizing payments to the doctor.

While the plaintiffs argue that the company was responsible for hiring and paying Murray, AEG claims that Jackson himself hired the physician and they only were paying him as an advance to the singer.

Incriminating Emails

After Jackson’s death, AEG asked his estate to reimburse them $30 million for concert expenses, including $300,000 for Murray’s salary. AEG General Counsel Shawn Trell testified Monday that requesting compensation for the doctor fees was a mistake.

Attorneys brought up an email from tour director Kenny Ortega that insinuates the company was more involved in the doctor-patient relationship than they would care to admit. “My concern is now that we’ve brought the doctor into the fold and have played the tough love, now or never card is that the artist may be unable to rise to the occasion due to real emotional stuff,” the email said. “I believe that he really wants this. It would shatter him; break his heart if we pulled the plug … It broke my heart … there still may be a chance he can rise to the occasion if we get him the help he needs.”

Another email exchange showed that Trell described Jackson as “creepy,” after a different executive referred to him as “the freak.”


Conflicts and Ethics

Trell maintained that he did not know of any conflict of interest that could have influenced Murray’s judgement.

Even if the court does determine that Murray worked for AEG, not Jackson, it would be a huge breath in ethics to act against the patient’s interests to appease the promoter, a personal injury lawyer points out. “There are many ethical conflicts presented in the Jackson trial — in terms of who Jackson’s doctor actually worked for,” says Jonathan Rosenfeld, an attorney with Rosenfeld Injury Lawyers in Chicago.

Selbst wenn das Gericht feststellt, dass Murray für AEG arbeitete und nicht für Jackson arbeitete, wäre es ein großer Atemzug in der Ethik gegen die Interessen des Patienten zu handeln, um dem Promotor zu beschwichtigen , sagt ein Anwalt für Körperverletzung . "Es gibt viele ethische Konflikte, die in dem Jackson-Prozess vorgestellt werden- in Bezug auf für wen Jacksons Arzt tatsächlich arbeitete", sagt Jonathan Rosenfeld, ein Rechtsanwalt für Rosenfeld Injury Lawyers in Chicago.



Jonathan Rosenfeld

“From what I understand, the promotional company paid the doctor’s salary for treating Jackson,” Rosenfeld says. “Even though the physician’s salary was paid by a company, there is no doubt that the physician had an ethical responsibility to provide care to Jackson that was in his best interest — not that of the company. To suggest that a physician’s ‘interest’ can be purchased goes against all considerations of quality care and flies in the face of medical ethics.”

"Von dem wie ich es verstehe hat die Promotions-Firma das Gehalt des Arztes gezahlt für die Behandlung von Jackson," sagt Rosenfeld. "Auch wenn das Gehalt des Arztes von einer Firma bezahlt wurde, gibt es keinen Zweifel, dass der Arzt eine ethische Verantwortung hat die Behandlung Jacksons in seinem besten Interesse warzunehmen und nicht von dem der Gesellschaft. Zu behaupten, dass das Intresse des Arztes erworben werden kann geht gegen alle Überlegungen von Qualität in der Pflege und ist ein Schlag in das Gesicht der medizinischen Ethik. "

The trial continues this week, when AEG CEO Paul Gongaware is expected to testify. It was recently revealed in the trial that Gongaware received an email from a stage manager a week before Jackson’s death that read, “I have watched him deteriorate in front of my eyes over the last 8 weeks . . . He was able to do multiple 360 spins back in April. He’d fall on his ass if he tried now.”

AEG executives have denied that they had any way of knowing of the singer’s precarious state before his overdose.

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The Jacksons vs. AEG Live – Zeugen der Jacksons, 14. Teil

1. Juni 2013

Und weiter ging’s gestern mit Paul Gongawares Befragung durch Jackson Anwalt Brian Panish. Scheinbar gibt es jedoch nicht viel Neues zum Fall selbst zu berichten. Wahrscheinlich hatte der Co-CEO von AEG wie bereits die ganze Woche über mit akuten Gedächtnisproblemen zu kämpfen. Zwei Themen, die von der LA Times aufgegriffen wurden vom gestrigen Prozesstag: die ominöse Geschichte betreffend die Anzahl der “This Is It” Konzerte sowie die nicht minder ominösen äusseren Umstände betreffend Michael Jacksons Ankündigung der London Konzerte im März 2009.

Gongaware sagte, der Grund, weshalb London für die “This Is It” Shows ausgewählt wurde, war, weil Michael dort sehr beliebt war. Während einer anderen Tour hatte er im Wembley Stadium 10 Konzerte à 75’000 Plätze ausverkauft gehabt. Ursprünglich waren 10 Shows geplant gewesen. Die Anzahl wurde dann aufgrund der riesigen Nachfrage zunächst auf 31 Shows erhöht, weil Michael Jackson Princes O2-Rekord von 21 Konzerten übertreffen wollte, und am Ende sogar auf 50 Konzerte erhöht, so Gongaware. Der Co-CEO hatte sich sogar gewünscht, dass Michael Jackson noch mehr Shows geben würde. Das ist ja nun alles nicht neu für uns. Leider wurden (noch) keine weiteren Informationen zu diesem Thema gegeben. Gerichtsprotokolle sind auch noch nicht verfügbar. Sobald wir mehr erfahren, informieren wir Euch selbstverständlich. Der Vertrag zwischen MJ und AEG insbesondere betreffend das umstrittene Thema der Anzahl der Shows wird sicherlich noch Gegenstand des Prozesses und eingehend behandelt werden. Im Moment ist uns auch nicht bekannt, ob Gongawares Befragung nächste Woche fortgesetzt wird. Ich vermute es mal.

Zurück zum Freitag. Ihr mögt Euch eventuell noch an die E-Mail von Randy Phillips an Paul Gongaware erinnern betreffend Michaels Auftritt für die Ankündigung der “This Is It” Shows in London Anfang März 2009. Wenn nicht, hier nochmals, was CEO Randy Phillips an dem Tag an Gongaware schrieb: “MJ ist betrunken und niedergeschlagen und und hat sich in seinem Zimmer eingeschlossen. Ich versuche, ihn auszunüchtern. Ich hab ihn so laut angeschrien, dass die Wände gezittert haben. Er ist ein emotional gelähmtes Wrack, voll von Selbsthass und Zweifel, nun da es Showtime ist”. Und was hatte Gongaware dazu zu sagen, als er damit im Zeugenstand von Brian Panish konfrontiert wurde? Ja, er habe sich geärgert, als Michael zwei Stunden zu spät kam, aber er war nicht wirklich überrascht. Michael hatte solche Auftritte nicht gemocht und Pünktlichkeit sei nicht seine Stärke gewesen. Aber als Michael Gongaware vor der Pressekonferenz hinter der Bühne sah, “kam er auf mich zu und umarmte mich und sagte, ‘Stell sicher, dass der Teleprompter grosse Buchstaben hat. Ich habe meine Brille nicht dabei’.” Michael Jackson habe weder nach Alkohol gerochen noch erschien er betrunken. “Es ging ihm gut. Ich glaube, er war aufgeregt”, so Gongaware. Auch AEG Anwalt Marvin Putnam — der, erinnert Ihr Euch noch, ja der Meinung ist, die Jackson Anwälte hätten bis anhin keinerlei relevante Beweise für ihren Fall aufzeigen können — meinte in einem früheren Interview mit The Times dazu, dass Randy Phillips in seiner E-Mail übertrieben hatte und dass Michael Jackson einfach nur nervös war.

Für wie blöd halten diese Leute uns alle eigentlich? Oder vorsichtiger gesagt: irgend jemand sagt hier nicht die Wahrheit. Ich bin ja schon gespannt, was Randy Phillips uns dann erzählen wird. Brian Panish wird ihn sicherlich auch noch zu dieser und diversen anderen E-Mails, an die sich Gongaware gar nicht mehr oder nur sehr langsam und mühsam wieder erinnern konnte, befragen.

Quellen: jackson.ch, latimes.com

Weiterlesen unter http://www.jackson.ch/the-jacksons-v...ksons-14-teil/
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[Brigitte 58]

Stimmt, im polizeiprotokoll vom 27.06.09 hat C.M. DOB 19.02.1953 angegeben.
Wo in den unterlagen steht's denn falsch?

na hier:http://www.psblaw.com/wp-content/upl...002-14LADA.pdf
Exhibit-462-5002
wie ich gerade gesehen habe, ist in den anderen dokumenten auch 1958 angegeben.

[rip.michael]

Stimmt, im polizeiprotokoll vom 27.06.09 hat C.M. DOB 19.02.1953 angegeben.
Wo in den unterlagen steht's denn falsch?