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Director of MJ's comeback show takes stand

By Alan Duke, CNN
updated 12:15 AM EDT, Tue July 9, 2013


STORY HIGHLIGHTS

* Kenny Ortega worked closely with Michael Jackson in his last weeks
* Ortega wrote of Jackson's "strong signs of paranoia ... and obsessive-like behavior"
* An expert testifies Jackson was drug dependent, not addicted
* Widow, daughter of former Jackson manager face jail unless laptop is handed over

Los Angeles (CNN) -- Kenny Ortega, the director of Michael Jackson's aborted comeback show, began his testimony Monday about what AEG Live executives did and said in Jackson's final days.

His first hours on the stand Monday afternoon were spent discussing Jackson's creativity, saying his voice, songs and dancing were "like no one else in his generation." He will return Tuesday to resume his testimony.

Lawyers for Jackson's mother and children argue in the wrongful death trial against AEG Live that those executives ignored warning signs about his health and mental condition that, if heeded, could have saved his life.

The lawsuit contends the promoters hired, retained or supervised Dr. Conrad Murray, the physician convicted of involuntary manslaughter in Jackson's propofol overdose death.

AEG Live lawyers argue that Jackson -- not their executives -- chose and controlled the doctor, who was giving him nightly infusions of the surgical anesthetic in a desperate search for sleep in his last two months.

Ortega, who knew Jackson well and worked with him closely preparing his "This Is It" shows, sounded a warning to AEG Live CEO Randy Phillips in an e-mail on June 20, 2009 -- five days before Jackson's death -- that Ortega did not think the entertainer would be ready for the shows.

He described seeing "strong signs of paranoia, anxiety and obsessive-like behavior" with Jackson. "I think the very best thing we can do is get a top psychiatrist to evaluate him ASAP."

Expert: MJ was 'drug dependent,' not addicted

AEG says Jackson was secretive about his drug use, which the company contends was an addiction, so there was no way of knowing what treatments Murray was giving Jackson in his bedroom.

But a drug addiction expert testified last week that there was "not a lot of evidence to support" the belief that Michael Jackson was addicted to drugs.

If he was an addict, Jackson "would be taking drugs that were not prescribed by a medical professional, taking larger amounts than prescribed and have drug-seeking behavior," Dr. Sidney Schnoll testified.

There was no evidence Jackson ever took drugs that were not given to him by a doctor or that he took more than prescribed, Schnoll said.

The bottles of sedatives found in his home after his death had more pills remaining in them than he would have expected if Jackson was an addict, Schnoll said. This "indicated these were not being taken on a regular basis," he said.

Evidence shows Jackson sought drugs from a number of doctors, but that was not inappropriate because he needed them "to treat a legitimate medical problem," including back pain, scalp pain and dermatologic issues, Schnoll testified.

While not addicted, Jackson was dependent on drugs, he said.

The painkillers that forced Jackson to end his 1993 "Dangerous" tour early so he could enter a rehab program were taken to relieve the pain from scalp surgery needed to repair burns suffered when filming a Pepsi commercial, Schnoll said.

The burns left scars on damaged nerves in his scalp, which becomes "excitable tissue" that "can be firing just like the nerve," he said. The result "can be every painful, like a burning kind of pain -- persistent, sharp, shooting kind of pain," he said. "It's very uncomfortable and one of the most difficult to treat."

Pain relief is a legitimate use of opioid drugs and a person can function normally if they are taken under a doctor's care, he said.

President John Kennedy was opioid dependent to relieve "very severe back pain" while in the White House, he said.

"He did alright as president?" Jackson lawyer Michael Koskoff asked.

"It depends on your political affiliation," Schnoll answered.

The Demerol injections Jackson got during frequent visits to a Beverly Hills dermatologist between April and his death in late June 2009 were given for legitimate medical reasons, Schnoll testified.

If he were addicted to Demerol -- which is a powerful opioid -- he would not have gone 43 days between injections, which medical records show, he said.

Jackson also went roughly 13 years -- from 1993 until 2008 -- without the drug, he said. The doctor conceded under cross-examination by an AEG Live lawyer, however, that a gap in available medical records may be misleading.

Jackson's use of sedatives was an effort to treat his chronic insomnia, Schnoll said.

If the underlying sleep problem could be resolved, the chances of ending Jackson's use of the drugs would have been good, he said.

There was no indication that Jackson was addicted to propofol before Murray began giving him nightly infusions of the surgical anesthetic for 60 days leading up to his death, he said.

Unheeded warning signs?

Ortega, in his e-mail to AEG Live CEO Phillips on June 20, wrote that "I honestly don't think he is ready for this based on his continued physical weakening and deepening emotional state."

He said Jackson was having trouble "grasping the work" at rehearsals.

Production manager John "Bugzee" Hougdahl wrote in an e-mail to Phillips hours earlier that Ortega had sent Jackson home from a rehearsal that night because of his strange behavior.

"I have watched him deteriorate in front of my eyes over the last 8 weeks. He was able to do multiple 360 spins back in April. He'd fall on his ass if he tried now," Hougdahl wrote. "He was a basket case and Kenny was concerned he would embarrass himself on stage, or worse yet -- get hurt. The company is rehearsing right now, but the DOUBT is pervasive."

Phillips replied to Ortega: "Please stay steady. Enough alarms have sounded. It is time to put out the fire, not burn the building down."

By "burn the building down," he meant pulling the plug on the tour that was set to begin in three weeks, Phillips testified last month. "In a highly charged situation like this, I just wanted to keep things calm until we could have the meeting."

Phillips met with Murray, Jackson and Ortega at Jackson's home later that day. While Jackson lawyers argue that meeting was intended to pressure Murray to make sure Jackson was ready for rehearsals, AEG lawyers contend Murray assured producers nothing was wrong.

Phillips testified that he remembered little about the conversation at the meeting and Murray has invoked his constitutional protection against self-incrimination to avoid testifying in the trial. This makes Ortega's testimony crucial for both sides.

Hand over evidence or face jail

A related drama could unfold Monday in another courtroom as a judge in Ohio decides if he'll carry out a threat to throw the widow and daughter of a former Jackson manager in jail for refusing to hand over a laptop computer subpoenaed by Jackson lawyers.

Frank DiLeo, who served as Jackson's manager decades earlier, reappeared in his life in his last months. He died in 2011. Jackson lawyers want to search his laptop for evidence to support their contention that DiLeo was beholden to the concert promoter and not to Jackson.

His daughter, Belinda DiLeo, refused a judge's order last week to disclose where the computer was, prompting the contempt of court order. The judge gave the DiLeo's until Monday to hand it over or face jail. A hearing will be held Wednesday to determine of the women complied with the order.

Jackson changed managers twice in the last three months of his life. In late March 2009, he hired Leonard Rowe -- one of his father's friends -- to replace Tohme Tohme, the manager who initially negotiated the deal with AEG for his "This Is It" tour.

Jackson lawyers argue that AEG Live forced Jackson to take DiLeo, who had worked for him off and on for decades, as his manager in May 2009 because they did not want to work with Rowe.

A cache of 5,000 e-mails has already been recovered and a lawyer in Ohio is reviewing them to redact non-relevant and personal information before handing them over to Jackson lawyers.

http://www.cnn.com/2013/07/08/showbiz/jackson-death-trial/

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Ortega said MJ wanted to improve the human condition for children around the world.
Ortega sagt MJ wollte die humanen Bedingungn für Kinder auf der Welt verbessern.
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MJ wanted to make sure every child had what they needed, Ortega explained.
MJ wollte sicherstellen, dass jedes Kind erhielt was es benötigte, sagte Ortega.
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MJ went to an orphanage in Romania before going to his hotel. Ortega said MJ didn't want to do the show before the orphanage was cleaned up.
MJ ging in ein Waisenhaus in Rumänien bevor er ins Hotel ging. MJ wollte die Show nicht machen bevor das Weisenhaus gereinigt wurde.
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"It left people breathless," Ortega said.
"Es ließ die Leute atemlos." sagt O.
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Panish showed clip of opening of Dangerous. "It was one of the most spectacular openings that anyone has seen or done," Ortega said.
Eröffnungsclip wird gezeigt. " Es war einer der spektakulärsten Eröffnungen die jemals jemand gesehen oder gemacht hat, sagt Ortega.
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"He would call that milking the crowd," Ortega explained. "He knew how to work the crowd better than anybody."
"Er nannte dies das Puplikum melken, Er wusste mit dem Publikum zu arbeiten wie kein anderer."
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The "toaster" popped up and gave illusion of flying. Ortega said MJ would then stand still on stage for a few minutes.
Der Toaster stieg auf und gab die Illusion des Fliegens. MJ würde dann für einge Minuten auf der Bühne still stehen.
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Ortega helped prepared the opening of the Dangerous tour in 1992. Michael would enter the stage in what they called "toaster."
Ortega half die Eröffnung die für die Dangerous-Tour 1992 vorzubereiten. Michael kam auf die Bühne mit einem Toaster.
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"He always wanted something that was world class and thrilling," Ortega said.
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The opening of the show was significant to MJ. He wanted the audience to think how will be able to top that!, Ortega testified.
Die Eröffnung in der Show war bedeutend für MJ. Er wollte das das Publikum darüber nachdenkt wie er das toppen kann.
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"He wanted to rock the world," Ortega said. "He wanted to let them know he was back."
"Er wollte die Welt rocken, sagt Orteag. Er wollte die Welt wissen lassen er ist zurück."
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Ortega: It was primarily Michael's vision that I shared. He wanted to put on the greatest show that anyone had ever seen.
Ortega: "Es war primär Michaes Vision, die ich teilte. Er wollte die größte Show machen, die jemals jemand gesehen hat.
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Panish showed clip of "This Is It" movie showing the young dancers who had been chosen to dance with MJ and how he influenced them.
Panish zeigt TII Clip wo Tänzer, die von MJ ausgesucht wurden über seinen Einfluss sprechen
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"Like no one else in his generation," Ortega said. "I think he was the most influential dancer for generations of kids still even today."
"Wie kein anderer seiner Generation.., ich denke er ist einflußreichste Tänzer für Generationen von Kindern bis heute."
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Ortega has worked in the industry for over 40 years. Panish asked Ortega how MJ influenced other dancers.

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Ortega described Michael Jackson:
Musician: world class
Singer: one of a kind
Dancer: the best
Ortega beschreibt Michael Jackson
Musiker: Weltklasse
Sänger: Einzigartig
Tänzer: Der Beste

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"It was exciting, stimulating, awesome," Ortega said.
"Es war aufregend, stimulierend, atemberaubend", sagt Ortega
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He said he was co-director of Dangerous with MJ. MJ had a ton of ideas, asked him to realize those on stage.
Er sagt er war Co-Director mit MJ. MJ hatte eine Tonne von Ideen und fragte ihn diese auf der Bühne zu realisieren
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"I felt incredible, he was the greatest performer on the planet and as far as I'm concerned. The greatest song and dance man ever."
"Ich fühlte mich unglaublich, er war der größte Performer auf dem Planet. Der größte Song und Tanz-Mann den es gab.
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Ortega first met MJ in 1990. "MJ called me to help mount the Dangerous Tour," he said.
Ortega traf MJ erstmals 1990. "Mj rief mich an um die Dangerous Tour zu entwickeln."
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Ortega: Choreography is about the movement of the human body, technique, dance language, physical, how to instruct
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Ortega choreographed the 96 Olympics in Atlanta, 2002 Winter Olympics in Salt Lake City, Super Bowl half time, World Cup.
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"He was very generous, very sweet and kind to everyone," Ortega said about Michael Jackson.
"Er war sehr zuvorkommend, sehr nett und freundlich zu jedem." sagte Ortega über MJ.
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MJ went backstage. "The cast, they were just crying, and screaming, and just speechless," Ortega said.
MJ ging Backstage: "Die Mannschaft weinte und schreite, einfach sprachlos, sagte Ortega:"
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"I know for sure Paris was singing, they were all standing and enjoying it," Ortega recalled.
"Ich weiß sicher, dass Paris sang, sie standen alle und genossen es."
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Panish: How did it make you feel?
Panish: Wie haben Sie sich gefühlt
Ortega: (long pause) I'm speechless, I can't think
Ortega: Lange Pause, ich bin sprachlos, ich kann nicht denken
P: Was that a big thrill?
P: War es eine großer Thrill?
O: Beyond
O: Mehr als das
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Michael and the children went to see High School Musical in Las Vegas.
Michael und seine Kinder kamen um High School Musical in Las Vegas zu sehen
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HS Musical 1 and 2 were released on TV only, 3 was a movie. "It was the number one opening weekend of any musical ever," Ortega said.
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Panish showed clip of High School Musical. He directed and choreographed 1, 2 and 3.
Panish zeigte Clips vom High School Musical. Orteag war Direktor und Choreograph für Teil 1 bis 3.
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Panish showed excerpt of it with Patrick Swayze and Jennifer Grey; snippet of "Newsies," 1st full-length picture he directed/choreographed.
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Panish showed a video clip of Madonna's "Material Girl."

Ortega has been asked to do a new "Dirty Dancing" but he's not sure it will happen
Ortega wurde gefragt ein neues Dirty Dancing zu machen, aber er ist nicht sicher, dass dies passieren wird
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Ortega did choreography for Cher, Madonna, Kiss, Diana Ross, Barbra Streisand, Bette Midler.
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Ortega worked on High School Musical 1, 2 and 3, Dirty Dancing, Newsies, Pretty in Pink, St. Elmo's Fire, etc.
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Travis Payne was MJ's partner for the new choreography in TII.
T. Payne war MJ`s Partner für die neue Choregrahie in TII.
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Ortega said he didn't do the choreography for the This Is It tour. It was lots of people, some was classic and belonged to MJ for some time.
Ortega sagt, er machte nicht die Choreographie für TII. Es waren viele Leute, einige gehörten zu MJ seit langer Zeit.
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Choreographer creates the dance steps, movements in a stage show or concert or musical, Ortega explained.
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Ortega: I was in such awe of him and the brothers. It was such a momentous moment for me, it was like being touched by a star
Ortega: ich war in solcher Ehrfurcht vor ihm und den Brüdern. Es war ein so einzigartiger Moment für mich, es war vom Star berührt zu sein.
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"He looked at me and smiled. I was overwhelmed," Ortega said.
"Er schaute zu mir und lachte. Es war überwältigend." sagt O.
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He opened up his own theater company when he was 18. Ortega said around 1963-64, Michael was walking through backstage they made eye contact
Ortaga eröffnete seine eigene -Theater Firma als er 18 war. Orteag sagt um 1963-64 ging Michael backstage ein, sie hatten Augenkontakt.
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Ortega said he started dancing when he was 4 years old. There was always music at his house, watched his parents dance.
Orteaga sagt er begann zu tanzen als er 4 Jahre war. Es gab immer Musik in seinem Haus, schaute den Eltern beim Tanzen zu.
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"I'm not an employee of AEG," Ortega responded.
"Ich bin kein Angestellter von AEG" sagt Ortega

Ortega said he is from Redwood City, CA, grew up in the Bay area.
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Ortega was originally named a defendant in this case. Panish asked if he knew why he was dismissed from the suit.
Ortega war ursprünglich als Beklagter im Fall genannt. Panish fragte ob er weiß warum er von der Klage entfernt wurde.
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Panish: Do you consider yourself friend with MJ?
Panish: Betrachten Sie sich selbst als Freund von MJ?
Ortega: Yes
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Panish: Do you consider yourself friend with Randy Phillips?
Panish: Betrachten sie sich selbst als Freund von R. Phillips?
Ortega: Yes
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Ortega's rep dealt with Paul Gongaware in The Rolling Stones tour.
Ortegas Rep handelte mit P. Gongaware in der RS-Tour.

Panish: Do you consider yourself friend with Gongaware?
Panish: Betrachten Sie sich selbst als Freund von Gongaware?
Ortega: Yes
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Ortega: I believe Mick Jagger just made me an offer and we accepted it. My agent called me, daily offer, I accepted.
Ortega: Ich glaube Mick Jagger machte mir ein Angebpt und wir aktzeptierten. Mein Agent rief mich an, tägliches Angebot, ich akzeptierte.
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The director said he was called by Mick Jagger to work on the 50th anniversary tour, working with AEG.
Der Direktor sagt das er von Mickl Jagger gerufen wurde um am der 50. Geburtstas-Tour zu arbeiten, mit AEG
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Ortega said AEG was Michael's partner in promoting and producing TII, and they were financers of the project.
Ortega sagt AEG war Michaels Partner in Promotion und Produzieren von TII und sie waren Finanzierer vom Projekt
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Ortega said for the creative part, he reported to Michael and to AEG regarding budget or scheduling.
Ortega sagt für den kreativen Part berichtete er Michael und AEG bezüglich des Budget oder Terminierung.
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He said he's a director, choreographer and sometimes producer. "My role in This Is It, I was Michael's creative partner in the show."
Er sagt er ist ein Direktor, Choreograph und manchmal Produzent. "Meine Rolle für TII war Michaels kreativer Partner für die Show zu sein."
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Ortega said he has earring loss, so he can't hear well. He asked Panish to speak up.
Ortega sagt, er hat Gehörverlust und kann nicht gut hören. Er bittet Panish lauter zu reden.
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Ortega said at one point his rep said the negotiation turned from AEG Live to Michael Jackson. He doesn't know the details, though.
Ortega sagt sein Rep, sagte ihm das die Verhandlungen wechselten von AEG Live zu MJ an einem Punkt. Er weiß nichts zu den Details.
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Ortega said his agent and attorney negotiated his contract with AEG Live. Gongaware represented AEG Live.
Ortega sagt sein Agent und Anwalt handelte den Vertrag mit AEG aus. Gongaware repräsnetierte AEG Live.Expand
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For certain things, Ortega said he reported to Paul Gongaware and Randy Phillips.
Für bestimmte Sachen, sagt Ortega berichtete er P. Gongaware und R. Phillips.
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Ortega said he had a contract with AEG Live. "I was working in communication with them," he said.
Ortega sagte er hatte einen Vertrag mit AEG Live. "Ich arbeitete in Kommunikation mit ihnen, sagte Expand
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The director was deposed in the Lloyds of London litigation for several days.
Der Dirketor wurde in der Lloyds-Klage mehrere Tage vernommen.
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Ortega said he read some articles about this trial. He also read Karen Faye's deposition, given to him by his attorney.
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Ortega reviewed his deposition but did not read testimony given at Dr. Murray's criminal trial.

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Full name: Kenneth Ortega

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Gestern startete die Ortega-Aussage. Von unten nach oben


For the latest watch @ABC7 and go to http://www.abc7.com . We hope to see you tomorrow for full coverage of the trial. Good night everyone
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Panish said defendants have 14,000 exhibits on their list, down from 28,000. There are 1353 documents produced by Kenny Ortega.
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Judge adjourned trial until tomorrow at 1:30 pm PT. Ortega ordered to return then. Attorneys remained in court discussing exhibits.
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Ortega cont'd: Great news, I couldn't be happier for the Team.
Ortega: Großartige Nachrichten, es könnte nicht besser für das Team sein.Expand
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Ortega responded:
Ortega antwortet:
Yeah! Good for MJ, God knows he's been out through as much negative as any one person should have to go through.
Yeah! Gut für MJ, Gott weiß er ging durch so viel negatives Zeug wie es keine Person durchmachen musste
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Gongaware responded:
We stopped at 50 sold out shows at the O2 arena. Demand was there for another 50. This is history and you're part of it
Wir stoppten bei 50 ausverkauften Shows in der O2 Arena. Der Bedarf war da für weitere 50 Shows. Das ist Geschichte und Du bist Teil davon.Expand
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Ortega responded:
I'd say we are off to a good start. Congrats to all
Ortega antwortet:
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Email on 3/12/09 from Gongaware to Ortega:
Blew out 30 shows today on the presale. Hot doesn't begin to describe it
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"Honestly, I didn't even know if it was for sure," Ortega said. He testified in his depo he was surprised Phillips didn't tell him anything.
"Ehrlich, ich habe nicht mal gewusst, dass es sicher war." sagte Ortega. Er sagte in seiner Depo er war überrascht, dass ihm Phillips nichts erzählte."Expand
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"I didn't know anything had happened and I wasn't there, so there wasn't anything to be surprised about," Ortega said.
"Ich wusste nicht das es passierte und ich war nicht da, so es gibt nichts worüber ich überrascht war, sagt OrtegaExpand
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He said had he known, it would have had an impact on whether to go forward with TII.
Er sagte wenn er dies gewusst hätte, könnte es einen Einfluss auf ihn gehabt haben mit TII weiterzumachen.Expand
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Ortega said Randy Phillips never told him what happened before the TII press conference with Michael Jackson.
Ortega sagte R. Phillips erzählte ihm nie was vor der TII-Pressekonferenz mit MJ passierteExpand
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At times, Ortega said he can work in multiple projects, but once one takes off he needs to be exclusive to it.
Zu Zeiten sagt Ortega kann er an unterschiedlichen Projekten arbeiten, aber wenn eines beginnt muss er exklusiv dafür da sein.Expand
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At this time, Ortega was working on development of movie for Paramount, "Footloose" remake. He was going to direct it.
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Ortega said MJ kept referring to the tour as "This is it," so Ortega suggested the tour should be called TII.
Orteag sagt MJ bezog sich auf die Tour mit "TII", so schlug Ortega ihm vor die Tour TII zu nennen.Expand
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Email on Feb 10, 2009 from Gongaware to Ortega was the first email the director remembers about the TII.
Email am 19. Februar 2009 vo G. an Ortega war die 1. Mail an die er sich wegen TII erinnertExpand
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Ortega said Paul Gongaware and John Meglan were the ones who contacted him about being part of the TII tour.
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Ortega: If the show were to go on to other countries, then I would receive royalties, yes
Ortega; Wenn die Shows in andere Länder gehen würde, würde ich Royalities erhalten, ja. Expand
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Ortega said TII was going to be in London and there was hope for international tour.
Ortega sagte das TII nach London ging und es gab Hoffnung für eine interantionale Tour. Expand
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Ortega: The scalp burn, I didn't know he was taking medication for it, I knew he was injured from the Pepsi commercial.
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Panish: Did anyone tell you they thought MJ was 'assisted' with something?
Ortega: No
Panish: Sagte Ihnen jemand das sie dachten das MJ mit etwas unterstützt wurde?
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"He was a little... off, loopy," Ortega said.
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Panish: Did you observe MJ different after seeing a doctor?
Panish: Haben sie beobachtet das MJ anders war nachdem er einen Arzt besuchte?

Ortega: Yes
P: Please explain
O: Off, a little off
O: Ein wenig off
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O: Yeah
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Ortega said he thinks MJ had back problems afterwards. But the director said he never saw MJ take medication.
Ortega sagt, er glaubt MJ habe danach Rückenprobleme gehabt, sah ihn aber nie Medikamente nehmen
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"I know he hurt his back," Ortega said. MJ jumped up and went back on the stage. "The show must go on."
"Ich weiß er hat sich seinen Rücken verletzt", MJ spring hoch und ging zurück auf die Bühne. "The show must go on"Expand
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Ortega said because an improper cable replacement, the bridge came down faster that it was supposed to.
Ortega sagt wegen unangemessener Kabelanbringung kam die Brücke schneller runter als beabsichtigt.
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Ortega: In Munich, Michael was on a set held up by cables. During the big conclusion of Earth song there was a bridge supposed to float down
Brückensturz in München 1999 wir gezeigtExpand
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Panish showed clip of Earth song.

Ortega talked about shows that MJ did for charity.
Ortega sprach über Shows die MJ für Charity machte
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Ortega said the song "What About Us?" showed Michael's deep concern about healing the planet. "And that went deep," Ortega said.
Ortega sagt Earth song zeigt MJs Sorge für den Planeten und "Das ging tief".Expand
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"Greatest example of it is Man in the mirror," Ortega said. "Change needs to happen within each of us for a change in the world to happen.
"Große Beispiele sind MIM, Änderung muss bei jedem von uns beginnen, wenn es in der Welt passieren soll"
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Panish showed video of "HIStory" tour opening. Ortega said MJ wanted his music to inspire change in the world.
History Opening wird gezeigt
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Ortega said he went on first 6 or so dates on both "Dangerous" and "HIStory" tour. He explained it was the normal amount.
Ortega sagte er ging zu den ersten 6 Shows von der Dangerous und der HIStory Tour. Das ist eine normale Anzahl.
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Ortega: The video used for the show would have subtitles saying love one another, take care of the planet, take care of the children.
Ortega: Das Video das für die Show verwendet wurde hatte Untertitel mit Liebe für jeden, auf den Planeten zu achten, und auf die Kinder zu achten.Expand
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Panish: Was his creativity or demeanor different?
Ortega: He was still inspired, raised the bar on himself and on everyone working with him
Ortega: Er war immer noch inspierend, hob die Messlatte für sich selbst und jeden der mit ihm arbeitete.
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Ortega: We didn't always agree on 100%, we allowed ourselves to have creative joust, to play with the ideas and allowed it to ripe
Ortega: "Wir stimmten nicht immer 100% überein, wir erlaubten uns kreativen Joust, mit den Ideen zu spielen und sie reifen zu lassen.
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In "HIStory" tour Ortega and MJ were co-creators & co-directors. "We used to call creative jousting," Ortega described the creative process.
Auf der HIStory Tour waren Ortega und MJ Co-Kreatoren und Co-Direktoren. "Wir nannten es kreative Ritterspiele", beschrieb Ortega den kreativen Prozess
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MJ was then transported to the hospital by ambulance. "It could've been exhaustion, I don't know, I don't recall," Ortega said.
MJ wurde ins Krankenhaus gebracht. "Es könnte Erschöpfung gewesen sein, ich weiß es nicht, ich kann mich nicht erinnern, sagt O
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Ortega said MJ fainted and the show was cancelled.
Ortega sagt MJ fiel in Ohnmacht und die Show wurde gecancelt.
Panish: Can we say he collapsed?
Panish. Können wir sagen er kollabierte?
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Ortega: He called me in because he was unhappy with what was going on with his classic choreography, he didn't want it to be changed.
Ortega: Er rief mich rein weil er unglücklich war was mit seiner klassischen Choreographie geschah, er wollte keine Änderungen darin.
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Panish: Did you ever become aware he was not well?
Panish: Wurde ihnen bewusst es ging ihm nicht gut?
Ortega: He was unhappy
Ortega: Er war unglücklich.
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In 1995, Ortega was acting as a consultant to MJ for an event at Beacon Theater in NY.
1995 war Ortega Consultant für MJ für ein Event im Beacon Theater.Expand
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Panish: Did you know Michael was dependent on painkillers?
Panish: Hörten Sie jemals das MJ abhänig war von Schmerzmitteln
Ortega: No
P: Never heard of that?
O: No
P: To this day?
O: No

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Jacksons vs AEG - Day 41 – July 1 2013 – Summary

Katherine Jackson is not in court.

Jean Seawright, Human Resources Expert for Jacksons


Jackson direct


Jackson's attorney, Brian Panish, is questioning Jean Seawright, a Human Resources consultant. She has her own company, helps clients find, hire, train, compensate, terminate workers; basically the entire life cycle of an employment. Seawright said human resources relates to the people and the workers in a business. She has clients in various line of businesses: pest control, law firms, restaurants, car dealerships, hospitals, etc. Seawright has BS in Chemistry, has consulted in the field of HR for 25 years, advising owners and managers of human resources practices. (ABC7) Seawright has her own HR-consulting company based in Florida, but has clients in different parts of the case. (AP)

Seawright said there are several types of background check, including driving, criminal, credit and social security check. Depending on the reports, the cost can be as low as $5, background check from $10-15, $25 with other fees, Seawright testified.
(ABC7)

She has testified in around 16 court cases, including one in which an employee killed a supervisor. The worker had a previous murder conviction, but no background check had been done, Seawright said. (AP) Seawright has testified in approximately 16 cases. Being an expert witness composes about 10% of her company's revenue.She charges $300/hour and has works a little over 100 hours in this case, Seawright testified. (ABC7)

Seawright has never works in the music or show producing industry, but said that she's qualified to testify since HR principles are the same. (ABC7)

She said her goal is to hire workers who are fit for the position and who are not going to put themselves or others at risk. Seawright said she doesn't differentiate independent contractors and company employees, since it's just a classification/label of a worker. "The same risks exist, regardless of the label," Seawright explained. "You can't manage what you don't know," Seawright said. "It's important to understand what the history of what an individual is before hiring them," Seawright explained. She said that knowing the background of workers diminish the risks of the hiring. Seawright explained smart hiring process, which can minimize the risks and hire a competent and fit employee. (ABC7) Seawright said she doesn’t advise different procedures for checking the background of an employee vs an independent contractor. Doing background checks is relatively inexpensive, Seawright said. A Social Security number check might cost $5, criminal check up to $30. (AP)

Panish asked assuming Paul Gongaware knew MJ had prescription drug issues, would that knowledge be critical in hiring a doctor for MJ? "Yes indeed, it would elevate the risk even higher," Seawright answered. Seawright: The organization knows the potential to harm the artist, they have information about the parties, which would elevate the risk.(ABC7)

Attorney Brian Panish asked Seawright a hypothetical question. He told her to assume AEG Live hired Conrad Murray at MJ’s request. Panish asked whether Seawright believed AEG followed adequate hiring practices. She said the company didn’t follow good hiring practices. She said she would have considered Murray performing a high-risk job due to several factors. The factors included Murray working in Jackson’s home, having access to confidential info and the singer’s family and giving medical care. Seawright said in Murray’s case, she would have recommended the following checks: criminal, credit and driving history. She would have also recommended a verification of Murray’s Social Security information. Panish questioned whether the absence of a criminal record would be enough of a check. Seawright said no. In forming her opinion, Seawright said she relied on the testimony of Dr. Matheson and other witnesses during the trial. (AP)

"They did indeed fail to follow adequate hiring practices," she testified Monday.Serving as a personal doctor for Michael Jackson was "a very high risk position" that warranted a background check to determine if Murray was fit for the job, competent to do the work and did not have a conflict of interest, Seawright testified. A simple credit check -- taking five minutes and costing less than $10 -- would have revealed the conflict of interest, she said. Credit checks are routine for many companies hiring for high-risk positions, she said. (CNN)

"I'd recommend criminal background check, credit and motor vehicle check and a social security verification on Dr. Murray," Seawright said. "Dr. Murray was in position of administering medical care but was paid by company that had the ability to stop the tour," Seawright said. "Had that happened, Dr. Murray would not be able to continue to work, he was in a conflict of interest," Seawright continued. (ABC7)

She said she saw no evidence of AEG conducting checks on Dr. Murray. Panish showed a chart of AEG's process to check out people, which separates employees from independent contractors.(ABC7) Panish displayed a board with a blowup of an AEG Live exhibit that their corporate attorney, Shawn Trell, used in his testimony. The board was titled “AEG Process to Check Out People.” It drew distinctions between employees and independent contractors. Panish gave Seawright a red marker and asked her to write whether they were processes that reflect standard human resources practices. Seawright said some of the processes including on the AEG exhibit were standard practices. Others were not. There were seven items on the procedures for Independent Contractors. Seawright wrote that none were standard practices. The processes included relying on a previous working relationship with AEG, or being known to the artist. She said requiring an independent contractor to be fully insured and indemnifying AEG from liability benefited the company. She said using a process like AEG employed could lead to harm. She said an independent contractor can cause as much harm as an employee. Seawright said at the minimum, AEG Live should have done a credit check on Conrad Murray. AEG Live’s lawyers objected to some of the questions Seawright was being asked, but judge allowed her to respond to most of them. (AP)

Seawright said there are risks involving employees who are not necessarily dealing with money. The expert said that looking at someone's professional license is not enough to qualify a potential worker. Seawright went through all the procedures AEG has in place to hire independent contractors and said most of their process only protects AEG. Seawright said the label of the employee doesn't change the fact that the company is responsible for the hiring of fit and competent person. Panish: Could independent contractors cause the same damage as employees? Seawright: Yes (ABC7)

Seawright said background checking minimizes the risk of hiring someone. Seawright opined that just including in the contract that Dr. Murray needed to be licensed is not sufficient to determine his competency. "I did not see any evidence in my review of documents and testimony," Seawright said about AEG checking Dr. Murray's medical license. "You can't just always take people's word" Seawright explained, saying that until you check their credentials you don't know if they are fit. (ABC7)


Panish: Did you see anything that qualified Dr. Murray as extremely successful? Seawright: I saw nothing that was done to determine that. Seawright talked about Phillips' email where he said Dr. Murray was extremely successful and didn't need the gig. She said Phillips acknowledged what the criteria was, that they needed someone ethical and unbiased"The email is a recognition by Mr. Phillips to hire someone who doesn't need the gig," Seawright opined.. (ABC7)

Seawright then testified about an email from AEG Chief Executive Randy Phillips to tour director Kenny Ortega, in which Phillips said Murray was “extremely successful” – noting “we check everyone out” – and “does not need this gig, so he is totally unbiased and ethical.” Seawright said that email indicated Phillips understood the criteria for the job and that AEG had a process in place for examining its workers. When asked if she saw evidence indicating the company in fact “checked out” Murray’s background, she replied: “I did not.” Ultimately, she said, the email indicated AEG was in a "sort of trap … where if you don’t check out a worker adequately, then you are in a situation like this.” “It was Mr. Phillips saying what he hoped was the case but we later found out was not the case,” she said. (LATimes)

Seawright said entertainment companies are not different from others, HR is practice across businesses lines to find fit, competent workers. No matter what business you are, you need to follow HR protocols, Seawright said.(ABC7)

The expert explained the credit check is used to determine whether or not the person met all his/her obligations, if there had any default. Seawright explained the problem is not the debt at all, it's the fact you are in default of the debt, that you haven't met your obligations. She said credit checks are inexpensive, cost between $5-8 and takes about 5 minutes to get the report. As to Dr. Murray, Seawright said AEG should have done, at minimum, a credit check. MJ was just a referral of Dr. Murray, Seawright said, and AEG should've done further investigations on him. Seawright said Dr. Murray was going to be in MJ's house, would have exposure to confidential information, so he needed to be checked out. Moreover, Dr. Murray would be providing medical care to MJ, and AEG should've checked him out, the expert opined. To get a credit report, you have to have the individual's consent, Seawright said. (ABC7)

The expert analyzed an email from outside counsel Kathy Jorrie to Phillips recommending background check on Dr. Tohme. (ABC7)

During deposition, AEG's attorney Jessica Bina showed study where out of 158 employers 3 % indicated they did credit check in healthcare. Another part of the survey related to employees working at people's homes, in which 30% employers conduct credit checks, Seawright testified. Panish: Could AEG have done a background check on Dr. Murray? Seawright: There's no question they could've done that, if they wanted to. "Being in debt is just having debt," Seawright explained. "But default is not paying the debts." (ABC7)

Dr. Murray had three different social security numbers in his credit report, according to LAPD Detective Orlando Martinez. Seawright said AEG could've run Dr. Murray's background and would've gotten the same information Det. Martinez received. (ABC7)

Panish: Do you know any special rules that apply to AEG Live? Seawright: No (ABC7)
Nothing further from plaintiff.



AEG Cross

AEG's attorney Jessica Stebbins Bina did cross examination.

Bina asked if all the opinions Seawright offered are based on the assumption that AEG, not MJ, hired Dr. Murray. She said yes. Seawright said she did not analyze the info assuming Michael Jackson hired Dr. Murray. Judge told the jurors that ultimately they are the ones who are going to decide who hired Dr. Murray. (ABC7)

Seawright Associates has four employees currently. Seawright said she has no idea if plaintiffs checked her background, but that she did not sign a release to check her credit. (ABC7)

Seawright said she never ran her doctors' background. She has not worked with concert promoters or the music industry. The expert said this is the 1st case where a person's credit history is major issue. The other cases involved criminal history and behavior (ABC7) She said the Jackson vs AEG Live case is the first one where a person’s credit history was an issue. Other cases involved criminal history. (AP)

Stebbins Bina tried to get Seawright to define the term “Independent contractor.” Seawright said there wasn’t a standard definition. The effort to define independent contractor prompted a lengthy sidebar. Afterward, Stebbins Bina read a definition from the dictionary. Seawright said the dictionary definition didn’t totally define what an independent contractor was. Seawright wouldn't define the term. (AP) The expert said there's no precise definition for independent contractor; there may be characteristics, but not a definition Bina gave hypotheticals to explain independent contractor. Most common background checks are criminal and reference checks, Seawright said. Seawright: It's important to be able to identify the best way to hire a worker, minimize the risk, determine if they are fit and competent. (Some jurors had their eyes closed at this point. It was very dry testimony, some audience members were sleeping.) (ABC7) A couple of the jurors seemed to be struggling to stay away during Seawright’s cross-examination. (AP)


A company can be accused of discrimination if the criteria involved in the hiring uses discriminatory practices, Seawright said. (ABC7)

Before the break, there was a tense session outside the jury’s presence on EEOC guidelines with regard to credit checks. AEG attorney Jessica Stebbins Bina asked Seawright about whether the EEOC now prohibits credit checks. Stebbins Bina showed the jury a printout from the EEOC website that she said showed the agency prohibited credit checks. Plaintiff’s attorney Brian Panish objected, and pointed out the printout doesn’t have a date on it. He said doc shouldn’t have been shown. Stebbins Bina acknowledged during the sidebar that she wasn't sure if the printout was a federal regulation, so she'll check on it tonight. Panish was extremely upset during the sidebar, saying Stebbins Bina and the judge erred by showing the printout to jury. He wanted the printout and comments about it made in front of the jury stricken from the record, but judge refused for now. Judge Yvette Palazuelos said she would wait to strike the printout and discussion from the record until she hears more about it tomorrow. (AP)

Outside the presence of the jury, there was a heated discussion about a document AEG showed to the jury. Bina showed an Equal Employment Opportunity Commission (EEOC) policy on credit check, saying it is a discriminatory practice. Jackson's atty Brian Panish argued vehemently that there was no foundation as to the date of the document and if it was in effect in 2009. Judge offered to take judicial notice of the document, but Panish said judge couldn't legally do it. Judge Yvette Palazuelos: is this is a regulation, rule, statute I can take judicial notice? Bina claimed the document, printed out of the website, is a policy and judge should be able to take judicial notice. She will look further. "The court should not allow that, plaintiff has been prejudiced by the misconduct of defendants' counsel," Panish told the judge. Judge read the document and noted it says "generally should be avoided", and it doesn't says it is prohibited. "It doesn't exactly say what you said," judge told Bina. Here's the text of the policy.

Document Pre-Employment Inquiries and Credit Rating or Economic Status: Inquiry into an applicant's current or past assets, liabilities, or credit rating, including bankruptcy or garnishment, refusal or cancellation of bonding, car ownership, rental or ownership of a house, length of residence at an address, charge accounts, furniture ownership, or bank accounts generally should be avoided because they tend to impact more adversely on minorities and females. Exceptions exist if the employer can show that such information is essential to the particular job in question. (ABC7)

Panish said the document is not a rule, regulation or policy and asked judge to admonish the jury to disregard it. Panish said it's misleading, inappropriate, should not be presented to the jury and it's unduly prejudicial to the plaintiffs. Bina argued she thinks it's clearly admissible, doesn't think it's appropriate to instruct jury now. "I do not believe there's any error in showing this document to the jury," Bina said. "You, improperly, took judicial notice over my objection and I'm requesting to admonish the jury now," Panish requested Judge Palazuelos. Judge: if it turns out judicial notice was improper but admissible in other ground, it may be difficult to explain to the jury. Judge wants to make sure they get to the bottom of it, whether it is admissible or not, before instructing the jury one way or another. Judicial notice is a rule in the law of evidence thatallows a fact to be introduced into evidence if the truth of that fact is so notorious or well known, or so authoritatively attested that it cannot reasonably be doubted. This is done upon the request of the party seeking to rely on the fact at issue. Facts & materials admitted under judicial notice are accepted without being formally introduced by witness or other rule of evidenceand they are even admitted if one party wishes to lead evidence to the contrary. (ABC7)

Bina resumed cross examination, jury back in the courtroom. Bina: Dr. Murray had a medical license, right? Seawright: My understanding, yes. Seawright said that once she checked Dr. Murray's credit check it made him ineligible for employment, thus she didn't investigate further. "There was no need to," Seawright said, explaining the fact that Dr. Murray failed the credit history was sufficient to deny him employment. (ABC7)

Regarding Dr. Murray's contract "4.1 Perform the Services reasonably by Producer" Bina said it was an error and Producer should read Artist. Seawright said she saw contradicting testimony, several well-qualified people reviewed the contract and it wasn't changed in final version. (ABC7)

Zusammenfassung von Ivy, MJJC #43
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Zusammenfassungen der vorangegangenen gerichtstage:
Day 1 - anträge u. eröffnungsstatements
Day 2 - anhörung und zeugen Senneff u. Martinez
Day 3 - forts. zeuge Martinez u. anhörung
Day 4 - forts. zeuge Martinez
Day 5 - zeugen Anderson und Rogers
Day 6 - zeuge Dr. Wohlgelernter
Day 7 - zeugin Sankey
Day 8 - zeugin Faye
Day 9 - forts. zeugin Faye
Day 10 - zeugen Walker, Rogers, Payne
Day 11 - forts. zeuge Payne
Day 12 - zeugin Hollander
Day 13 - M. Hom videodeposition, forts. zeugin Hollander
Day 14 - forts. zeugin Hollander; zeuge Trell
Day 14 fortsetzung - forts. zeuge Trell
Day 16 - forts. zeuge Trell
Day 17 - forts. zeuge Trell
Day 18 - zeuge Gongaware
Day 19 - forts. zeuge Gongaware
Day 20 - forts. zeuge Gongaware
Day 21 - forts. zeuge Gongaware
Day 22 - forts. zeuge Gongaware
Day 23 - forts. zeuge Gongaware; zeuge R. Phillips
Day 24 - forts. zeuge Phillips
Day 25 - forts. zeuge Phillips
Day 26 - forts. zeuge Phillips
Day 27 - forts. zeuge Phillips
Day 28 - forts. zeuge Phillips
Day 29 - forts. zeuge Phillips
Day 30 - forts. zeuge Phillips
Day 31 - zeuge Berman
Day 32 - zeugin Chase
Day 33 - forts. zeugin Chase; videodeposition Dr. Earley
Day 34 - zeuge Dr. Czeisler
Day 35 - forts. zeuge Dr. Czeisler
Day 36 - forts. Dr. Earley video depo
Day 37 - Dr. Matheson
Day 38 - zeuge Michael Jackson Jr.
Day 39 - zeugen TJ Jackson, Taj Jackson
Day 40 - zeugin Karen Faye


Exklusiv transcripts eröffnungsstatements u.a. (MJJC #1 ff.)
Zeugenaussage von Prince Michael Jackson Jr.; exklusiv transcripts von MJJC # 7

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Jacksons vs AEG - Day 40 – June 28 2013 – Summary

Katherine Jackson is not in court.

Karen Faye Testimony

AEG Cross

AEG defense attorney Marvin S. Putnam is cross-examining Faye. He started out stating it had been 7 weeks since she was last in court. (AP) Faye testified 7 weeks ago, May 10. Putnam asked her if she done anything to prepare, like look at the transcript. She said yes, periodically. "I was deposed for 4 or 5 days and I talked to plaintiffs for 1 day," Faye said. She reviewed transcripts but not what she said on the stand. She didn't look at exhibits, but met with plaintiffs' counsel, Faye said. (ABC7) Putnam asked whether Faye had reviewed her trial testimony. She said she hadn’t. She reviewed her deposition. Faye said her deposition spanned five or six days. At one point, she held up her hands to show how huge the file was. (AP)

Putnam asked Faye about her interactions with Michael Jackson after his acquittal in the child molestation case. (AP) Faye got MJ ready for the criminal trial in June 2005. She didn't talk to him at the day of acquittal, he left for Bahrain. Putnam: Were you upset you that you had been there every day and he didn't say good bye? "He had been thru a horrible, horrible ordeal. Whatever he had to do to recover from that, that was fine," Faye said. Faye on MJ: "I understood that he wanted to leave." (ABC7) Faye didn’t talk to Jackson after his acquittal. Putnam asked Faye whether that upset her. “It didn’t upset me. No sir.” Faye on not talking to Jackson after his acquittal: “He had been through a horrible, horrible ordeal and I was by his side sir.” (AP)

Faye said MJ never returned to Neverland after that, neither did she. She didn't see MJ in 2008 at Carolwood. Faye didn't talk to MJ when he came back into the country, heard from him every 3,4, 5 months and they were like brother and sister.

She said she talked to him every few months, but didn’t see him again until April 2009. She found out about ‘This Is It’ tour from the news. (AP) Faye said she found out about "This is It" tour on the news. She wasn't surprised, MJ had mentioned he had projects. Faye said she got a call from Michael Amir mid March saying he was MJ's assistant; Michael wanted her to go on the tour with him. She said she didn't think it was strange that Michael had an assistant calling her. Previously, MJ would call her directly. "He didn't give me too much information, said MJ would call me from blocked number, make sure to pick up, it had to do with tour," Faye said. It was a really happy and light conversation, Faye recalled. "Work with me Turkle, Work with me Turkle," Faye said MJ told her. "We kind of laughed and chuckled. I think I mentioned in that conversation I was excited for him going back on tour," Faye testified. Faye said MJ told her he thought it was only going to be 10 shows but when he woke up, and it was now 50. He was a little discouraged about the number of shows, Faye said. She told MJ they would have to work on his hair to get him ready to tour. Faye said she knows that was part of their conversation, but wasn't sure if it was part of their first conversation. (ABC7)

Putnam: He asked you to work on the tour and you said yes?
Faye: Yes (ABC7)

Faye said she remembers seeing the media following his bus, but is not sure she saw the press conference announcement live. "His wig was so big," Faye said, explaining that because of her work she notices people's hair and make-up. "I thought his behavior was a little odd, but not out of the ordinary," Faye said. (ABC7) On seeing Jackson’s press conference announcing the London shows, Faye said, “I just thought he had a really bad hairpiece on, sir.” Faye said she thought his wig was too big. Putnam asked her about Jackson’s behavior. She responded, “I thought his behavior was a little odd, but not out of the ordinary.” (AP)

Putnam: How did you think he looked?
Faye: Oh, ok. I just thought that he had a really bad hair piece on (ABc7)

Karen Faye revealed she found texts that helped her remember when things happened during prep for the “This Is It” tour. AEG attorney Marvin Putnam seemed surprised. Putnam asked Faye when she discovered the texts, and when she handed them over to plaintiff’s counsel. She said she turned them in today. Faye didn’t give the text messages to AEG’s lawyers. Putnam: ““I guess we’re getting them now.” (AP) Faye said she found some text messages related to the period, couple of days before MJ's death. Faye said she didn't even know she still had the phone. She said she looked at the texts to remember dates, turned them to defendants today. Faye said she was sick a couple of weeks ago and that's when she found the phone. Faye: You keep asking me things about dates, I'm trying to remember, I was trying to refresh my memory about things. (ABC7)

Putnam asked if she found anything else and she quipped, “I was going through my drawers. I found some sexy things for my boyfriend and I.” Putnam asked whether she found the proceedings funny. “I don’t think the case is funny at all sir,” Faye responded. (AP)

"I was concern on how close the shows were together, sir" Faye said. She reached out to Kenny Ortega and Michael about it. Faye said she learned about the tour schedule online. She doesn't recall if there was a three month break. "He might make 1st week but it will go downhill after," Faye said. "I felt the schedule was too difficult for him to maintain" (ABC7)

Putnam: You didn't see MJ for 4 years and thought it was a problem?
Faye: I said it could possibly be problem, I didn't say it was definite (ABC7)

Putnam showed Faye the calendar for the shows of "This Is It." She said she had not seeing it, what she saw was a list online. Faye agreed with the concept that she did call and expressed concern, but didn't say it was dangerous and impractical. "I had no concept of Michael's ability at this time," Faye said. "I was always protective of Michael and his well being." Faye: When I saw that there may be a problem, I did speak out, but exactly what they are talking here, I don't know. "I think he didn't know how the schedule was, he should go a look at the schedule and how he feels about it," Faye explained. "That's funny, my mother said the same thing," Faye said MJ told her. "By the conversation I had with him, he didn't seem to know the structure, only that it was 50 days," Faye said about MJ. Faye: I just wanted him to make sure he knew the schedule and if he was comfortable with it (ABC7).

Faye was asked about her conversation with Jackson about the “This Is It” shows. She says the singer seemed surprised about the 50 shows. Faye recalled Jackson telling her, “’ It started out as 10 shows and then I woke up and it was 50.’” Faye said she was concerned about how close together the “This Is It” shows were and she reached out to Kenny Ortega, the tour director. “I didn't say definitively that it was going to be a problem,” Faye said. “I said this was something we should look at.” She added that she thought Jackson needed more time to recuperate. Putnam asked whether she called schedule dangerous. Faye said she didn’t characterize it that way. “I said it wasn’t the best schedule for Michael to be successful,” she said. Putnam showed her an email Ortega sent to AEG exec Paul Gongaware saying Faye raised concerns about the schedule. Faye said they were Kenny’s words and not hers. She said she didn’t recall saying the schedule was dangerous. (AP)

Faye said she worked with a wig maker and they both went to Carolwood to see MJ. "Sir, we needed to prepare for the show, sir." She testified she needed to get some funds to start working on MJ's wigs and was told to speak with Dr. Tohme. (ABC7)

Faye was then asked about the Jackson family maid, Grace Rwaramba and her role during the molestation trial. She said she thought Jackson was better off when Grace wasn’t living at Neverland Ranch during the trial. (AP) "I really, really loved Grace when I first met her," Faye said. "I adored her, I was really happy Michael used her as the nanny." "As her responsibilities grew, she kind of stood in the way, it seems she always tried to keep me away from Michael," Faye said about Grace. "Michael seemed to have more difficult time when Grace was brought back to Neverland," Faye said, referring to the time of criminal trial. "I just noticed that Michael started having a lot of back pain" Faye said. "With the symptoms of losing a lot of weight, and the pajama day". Faye explained the day during the criminal trial MJ went to court wearing pajamas one day. That day, Michael went to the hospital because something happened to his back and they gave him some pain killers, Faye testified. "The judge was informing MJ he had to go to court or he would be sent to jail" Faye said. So he went to court in pajamas, couldn't get ready. "They were going to throw him in jail if he didn't get there on time," Faye said. (ABC7)

Faye said a lot of her information came through Taunya Zilkie and their concerns. Taunya took care of Faye's businesses affairs. Putnam said the contract with between the company of her Taunya's company, not Faye. Putnam: Did you have an understating as to whether or not you were an employee of AEG Live? Faye: I worked for This Is It and the production of the tour. "I think I was giving her (Taunya) something to take care of all my business and pay bills, but can't recall the amount," Faye said. (ABC7) Faye was then asked about her contract with AEG to work with Jackson on “This Is It.” She said she wasn't paid until contract was signed. (AP)

She was asked about the wigs she bought for Jackson, which she said were ventilated. She said she needed 5 wigs for the London shows. (AP) "The process of his hair took a long time," Faye said. Faye said she needed to be able to get to MJ, so she asked in the contract to be close to him. "I don't know where they were going to put me," she explained. "I wanted to make sure they could get to me if they needed." Faye said MJ liked privacy. "When you do somebody's hair there's a lot of things involved and he didn't want people to see it," Faye said. Faye said she needed probably 5 wigs, each costing $3,500. She said it was a long process to get one ready, needed reserves for emergency. "It meant Michael didn't want anybody to know he wore a wig," Faye said. Faye requested the wig receipt be as discreet as possible. (ABC7) She was also asked about contract terms that called for her to submit itemized receipts for expenses only if Jackson approved it. Faye: “I wanted it to be as private for him as possible.” (AP)

Botox inhibits sweating, so Faye thought MJ could have Botox injection on his scalp and he wouldn't sweat, the wig would stay on. Faye said Latisse and Propecia prescriptions for Michael were under her name. The Propecia rejuvenated hair on men's scalp, Faye said, and she needed as much healthy hair as possible. Faye said one of MJ assistants would sometimes give her skin creams to give to MJ. (ABC7)

"Ortega demanded Michael to take off sunglasses, they gave me orders sir, but not pertaining to make-up and hair," Faye said. (ABC7)

Putnam: Did you work for Michael Jackson?
Faye: He requested me, sir, he called me and asked me (ABC7)

Putnam: Did they do a background check on you?
Faye laughed out loud and said, you're so funny. I don't think so(ABC7)

"No, there was no background check done on me," Faye said, explaining she knows the background check is one of the issues of the trial. Faye said she saw information about the trial on the news and internet. She worked with MJ for 27 years. Putnam asked if AEG did financial check on her if they'd find problems. Plaintiffs objected, asserting witness's privacy. Judge sustained it (ABC7)

Putnam asked Faye what she did in April and May 2009 to prepare for the tour. She said she attended productions meetings at Center Staging. "I was researching all the adhesives available, trying to figure out ways to have my job be successful," Faye said. Faye said she worked in a bedroom downstairs at the Carolwood house, never went to the second floor bedrooms. Faye doesn't recall how many times a week she saw MJ from March to June. In the first period of rehearsals, Faye said he seemed ok. "In compared to how I used to know him, it was little different, I can't say it was exactly how it used to be," Faye said. "I noticed some physical things that were odd," Fayed recalled. Faye said rehearsal was really, really dried and that kind of bothered her. "His thinness was still bothering me," Faye testified. "He wasn't gaining anything that was a concern." Faye said she was so concerned she brought an old time MJ's cook who had a restaurant nearby to bring him food. "It wasn't the MJ at 29, but he did Billie Jean and it was MJ, everyone was really excited about that," Faye said about rehearsals in June. (ABC7)

"I asked Michael's security if he was going to see Dr. Klein," Faye testified. "I was kind on the lookout for doctors getting involved," Faye explained. Putnam asked why Faye inquired specifically about Dr. Klein. "Because in the media, there were reports that he had gone to Dr. Klein," Faye explained. "What I asked is how often he went there." Faye said they said Jackson's security confirmed MJ was seeing Dr. Klein maybe 3-4 days a week. That concerned her, Faye said. "Because of the past, when I'd see doctors get involved in Michael's life," Faye explained. Faye said she expressed that concern to Frank DiLeo, MJ's manager at the time. Faye never spoke with MJ about it. "I was really getting worried about Michael's psychological state," Faye said. She was concerned about Dr. Klein and aware of Dr. Murray in the week prior to MJ's death. Faye said she had a conversation with Kenny Ortega about Dr. Murray. She never asked about Dr. Klein. Faye said she can't recall ever having a conversation with Ortega about Dr. Klein. (ABC7)

Putnam: Did you express to KO any concern you had about Dr. Conrad Murray?
Faye: Yes, that he wasn't a psychologist (ABC7)

"I didn't know Conrad Murray at that particular point other than expressed the concern of what I think Michael needed," Faye said. (ABC7)

Regarding the fitting day, where MJ wore t-shirt and shoulder piece, Faye said she was there but didn't see him when they did the fitting. Faye said she saw MJ down to t-shirt several times, since she had to wire MJ, put wires and battery packs on him. (ABC7)

Putnam: Did Randy Phillips ever pressure you to get MJ on stage?
Faye: No
Putnam: Did Paul Gongaware ever pressure you to get MJ on stage?
Faye: No
Putnam: Did Randy Phillips ever personally instruct you to never listen no MJ?
Faye: No
Putnam: Did Paul Gongaware ever personally instruct you to never listen to MJ?
Faye: No
Putnam: Did you ever observe Randy Phillips tell anyone to get MJ on stage to rehearse?
Faye: He told me he wanted to build a wall around Michael so he doesn't want to do anything but get to rehearsal.

Faye said she wasn't around Phillips a lot, so she didn't recall Phillips telling anyone to get MJ on stage to rehearse. (ABC7) Faye told jurors that she was never pressured by AEG executives Randy Phillips or Paul Gongaware to get Jackson to rehearse. (AP)

On June 22, Faye went over to MJ's house to replace MJ's wig. She waited couple of hours and was told to leave, MJ didn't want to do it. (ABC7)

June 23 was the first time they were at Staples Center. Faye said she was extremely concerned with MJ's health on June 19th. "I was very concerned during this period of time, I was very, very frightened," Faye explained. She said she had horrible thoughts. "I made a phone call to security Alberto Alvarez on Saturday and asked him to watch MJ very closely that I was concerned," Faye testified. Faye said Alvarez didn't want to stay on the phone, had to go and hung up. Faye said she didn't have an opportunity to talk to anybody on June 22 about MJ and she didn't want to ask the children. On June 23, Faye said there were lots of meetings at Staples Center with MJ. She was alone with MJ at some point in the day. Faye said she didn't remember what she said to MJ, it was probably how are you doing, probably addressed him very casually. (ABC7)

Putnam: Did you think MJ had a good rehearsal on June 23?
Faye: It was much improved, sir
Putnam: How about the 24th?
Faye: It was improved (ABC7)

Putnam asked Faye how Jackson's performance was on the 23rd. Her response: "It was much improved." Putnam asked, "Did it restore your hope?" Faye replied, "Oh yeah." (KABC)

Putnam asked if Faye thought MJ would be ready to tour after those rehearsals. She responded "oh no, oh no!"
Putnam: You didn't think he was ready to go?
Faye: Oh no (ABC7)

Faye explained MJ didn't gain any weight, there were changes that needed to be done to get him ready, perhaps if they could delay it a bit.

Putnam: So you didn't think he could be ready after watching those rehearsals?
Faye: No

"It was a very strenuous show," Faye said. (ABC7)

Faye said there was hope, though."I saw more of Michael, he was laughing, I saw him participating, yes, there was some relief." "He was still cold, but his spirit was better, sir," Faye said. "I wasn't concerned for his weight for everyday life, but I was concert for his performance weight," Faye explained. (ABC7)

Putnam: Did you ever testify his work weight was 120 pounds?
Faye: Lisa Marie Presley gave me that information
"Lisa Marie Presley and I became friends and she told me MJ liked to be at 120 pounds," Faye said. (ABC7)

Putnam: Did you say he lost 10-15 lbs the last week of his life?
Faye: It was an estimate, yes

Putnam: Were you observing Mr. Jackson becoming thinner and thinner?
Faye: Yes (ABC7)

Faye said that in Mar/Apr she told Michael she was concerned with his weight. She never talked to him about it during last weeks of his life. "Michael wasn't very coherent that week to have a discussion like that," Faye said. Faye said people who didn't know MJ very well would probably not realize he lost lots of weight because of the several layers of clothes. (ABC7)

Putnam asked Faye about the fact that Coroner's report saying MJ was 136 lbs at the time of his death.
Putnam: Did you think it was impossible for him to weigh that much?
Faye: Yes
"Because Michael had lost so much weight and he kept losing weight. 136 lbs was a lot for MJ," Faye explained. (ABC7)

Defense attorney Marvin Putnam asked Faye if she would be surprised that Jackson weighed 136 pounds when he died. Faye's response: "136 pounds would be good for Michael." (KABC)

Faye said she was a bit upset that no one seemed to have been listening to her back in June 2009. "I was voicing my opinions and what I thought and I wasn't getting too much response, sir," Faye said. "He would pretend everything was ok" Faye said. But she never asked MJ if he was ok since she thought he wasn't in the state of mind for it. Faye did not express any of her concerns to MJ's family remembers. (ABC7)

Putnam asked if Faye and MJ knew each other well. Faye said he thought so. Faye said MJ believed in doctors and that wherever they prescribed he thought it was ok. Faye said the first time she heard about Propofol was after MJ died. She was surprised about it. (ABC7)

Faye testified earlier in the case that MJ didn't take no for answer. She said it had to do specifically with her work. (ABC7)

Faye said MJ talked about the tour seemed he was trying to convince himself to do it. "It was always like he was talking himself into it." (ABC7)

Putnam: That last week, you didn't know what was going on?
Faye: Right
Putnam: Did you think MJ was self-sabotaging?
Faye: I didn't understand what was going on (ABC7)

Email Faye sent to Frank DiLeo was a note from a fan concerned with MJ's weight on June 20, 2009. Faye wrote in the email: Frank... Unfortunate she's right. I'm fearful he I'll make himself so sick be will die. If he doesn't do this show he has no where else to go. Another fan email forwarded on June 22 from Faye to DiLeo saying MJ was too thin. When he asked me to do this in May and met with him. I saw a slender but strong and coherent Michael Jackson. "I felt desperate when I wrote this email, because I felt I wasn't being heard or acknowledged," Faye said. "It seems like he is setting himself up to be the victim," Faye wrote in the email to DiLeo. "I thought the best pathway, he needed some psychological help," Faye explained. "I'm trying to figure out what is going on." Faye said she thought there was some sort of fear with MJ. "He hurts himself most of all," Faye wrote. Putnam asked what she meant by that and Faye said "He's dead!" "I don't think you, Kenny or Randy deserve becoming the villains, or the financial victims," Faye wrote. "This is between you and me alone," Faye wrote in the email to DiLeo. "I am leaving this in your hands as you have instructed me to do." Faye said she was trying to get their attention to do something. "I was desperate. I wanted a therapist for Michael." No response from Frank DiLeo or anybody else, Faye said. Putnam asked about her saying it was between the two alone, and she said her intention was for someone to help Michael. Faye's email to DiLeo: Michael is painfully thin... His bones are protruding. I'm one person that has physical contact with him very day. Michael's OCD is getting worse. He repeats his actions and rambles words constantly. (ABC7)

Hair and makeup artist Karen Faye testified about two emails she sent to Jackson's manager Frank Dileo within the five days before the singer's death that his health was deteriorating. In one of the messages, Faye warned Dileo that he and AEG Live CEO Randy Phillips might become "villains" or "financial victims" if Jackson were to die while preparing or performing a series of comeback shows called "This Is It." Faye said she struck a dire tone in the messages because she felt that earlier concerns about Jackson's health had been ignored. Faye sent the warning that Jackson may die in a message on June 20, 2009 — five days before the singer died of an overdose of the anesthetic propofol. Two days later, on June 22, she sent the warning about Dileo, Phillips and tour director Kenny Ortega being held financially responsible for the entertainer's demise. "I don't think you, Kenny, or Randy deserve becoming the villains, or the financial victims," her email states. She wrote that the message was "between you and me alone." She told jurors she was concerned the men "could be responsible for that in some way. Just kind of like where we are right now," she said, referencing Katherine Jackson's ongoing civil case against AEG Live.Faye's emails described Jackson as emaciated, paranoid and unable to perform. She told jurors Friday that while the singer's performances dramatically improved in his final two rehearsals, she was still not convinced he would be able to perform the 50-concert schedule of "This Is It," let alone its premiere. (AP)

In an email on July 1, 2009, Faye expressed concern to Randy Phillips about footage of MJ shuffling and wrapping around in blankets. Phillips responded: We control all the footage and it is locked at the vault at staples center (ABC7)


Jackson redirect

Panish: Were you seeing Michael not able to sing and dance on June 16?
Faye: Yes, sir
Panish: Did you think that MJ needed some medical assistance that time?
Faye: Absolutely
Faye agreed with Bugzee that MJ was deteriorating in front of everyone eyes.

"He was not in good physical shape on June 19," Faye said. (ABC7)

Panish: Who did you negotiate your contract with?
Faye: AEG Live (ABC7)

"He was burned a long time ago, had damage to his scalp," Faye said about MJ needing wig. "He had 1st, 2nd and 3rd degree burn." (ABC7)

Panish: Were you being paid $150,000 a month?
Faye: No
Panish: Did you take the Hippocratic oath when you became a make-up artist?
Faye: No, sir (ABC7)

Panish asked if someone has died after getting make-up. "I never even burned someone with a hot iron, sir," Faye responded. (ABC7)

MJ went to rehearsal on June 18 but arrived late, Faye said. Ortega was very angry Michael was late to rehearsal. Faye said MJ was scared, paranoid, pressure on the last two weeks of his life. Putnam questioned Faye for 5 days in deposition related to Lloyds of London lawsuit. There were no lawyer representing the Jacksons. "I was quite sure he was deteriorating, sir" Faye said. "I had no idea what was going on, but there was something very, very wrong." Faye said she discussed with mortician MJ's body weight. Panish asked if he looked worse than on June 19. Faye responded: "He was dead, sir" Faye said on June 18 Michael was almost catatonic, stoic, appeared scared to die. (ABC7)


Zusammenfassung von Ivy, MJJC #42

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Zusammenfassungen der vorangegangenen gerichtstage:
Day 1 - anträge u. eröffnungsstatements
Day 2 - anhörung und zeugen Senneff u. Martinez
Day 3 - forts. zeuge Martinez u. anhörung
Day 4 - forts. zeuge Martinez
Day 5 - zeugen Anderson und Rogers
Day 6 - zeuge Dr. Wohlgelernter
Day 7 - zeugin Sankey
Day 8 - zeugin Faye
Day 9 - forts. zeugin Faye
Day 10 - zeugen Walker, Rogers, Payne
Day 11 - forts. zeuge Payne
Day 12 - zeugin Hollander
Day 13 - M. Hom videodeposition, forts. zeugin Hollander
Day 14 - forts. zeugin Hollander; zeuge Trell
Day 14 fortsetzung - forts. zeuge Trell
Day 16 - forts. zeuge Trell
Day 17 - forts. zeuge Trell
Day 18 - zeuge Gongaware
Day 19 - forts. zeuge Gongaware
Day 20 - forts. zeuge Gongaware
Day 21 - forts. zeuge Gongaware
Day 22 - forts. zeuge Gongaware
Day 23 - forts. zeuge Gongaware; zeuge R. Phillips
Day 24 - forts. zeuge Phillips
Day 25 - forts. zeuge Phillips
Day 26 - forts. zeuge Phillips
Day 27 - forts. zeuge Phillips
Day 28 - forts. zeuge Phillips
Day 29 - forts. zeuge Phillips
Day 30 - forts. zeuge Phillips
Day 31 - zeuge Berman
Day 32 - zeugin Chase
Day 33 - forts. zeugin Chase; videodeposition Dr. Earley
Day 34 - zeuge Dr. Czeisler
Day 35 - forts. zeuge Dr. Czeisler
Day 36 - forts. Dr. Earley video depo
Day 37 - Dr. Matheson
Day 38 - zeuge Michael Jackson Jr.
Day 39 - zeugen TJ Jackson, Taj Jackson


Exklusiv transcripts eröffnungsstatements u.a. (MJJC #1 ff.)
Zeugenaussage von Prince Michael Jackson Jr.; exklusiv transcripts von MJJC # 7

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LOS ANGELES (KABC) -- An addiction specialist took the stand Wednesday at the Michael Jackson wrongful death trial.

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Dr. Sidney Schnoll painted a picture of the king of pop as a typical pain patient -- that is, he says, until the entrance of Jackson's doctor, Conrad Murray.

Dr. S. Schnoll zeichnete das Bild des KOP, als das eines typischen Schmerzpatienten - so war es, sagte er, bis Jacksons Arzt CM die Bühne betrat.

Schnoll reviewed 16 years of the artist's available medical records, from the time in 1993 when Jackson announced his struggle with pain medication to the day he died.

The opinion of Schnoll is that the music icon was probably drug dependent. He testified there was not enough evidence to conclude that Jackson was an addict, a person who seeks a drug to get high.

[B]Schnoll überprüfte 16 Jahre aus der Krankenakte des Künstlers, von 1993 an bis zu seinem Tod.
Schnolls Meinung ist, dass die Musikikone möglicherweise auf Medikamente angewiesen war. Er bezeugte, dass es nicht genug Beweise gäbe, die auf eine Abhängigkeit Jacksons schließen, als eine Person die Drogen/Medis missbraucht um high zu sein. [B]

Schnoll is testifying in support of Katherine Jackson's lawsuit against concert promoter AEG Live. The expert listed Jackson's medical procedures, including scalp surgeries after pyrotechnics in a Pepsi commercial set his hair on fire.

Later, months before his death, Jackson was getting cosmetic treatments and dozens of shots of Demerol, an opioid pain medication.

Schnoll said Jackson's available medical records showed that his treatments were legitimate and that Jackson never abused drugs.

Der Experte, der für KJ Klage gg. AEG aussagt, listete medizin. Behandlungen auf, darunter KopfhautOPs, nachdem seine Haare durch einen pyrotechnischen Unfall, während eines Pepsi Drehs, in Flammen stand.
Später, Monate bevor seinem Tod erhielt Jackson kosmetische Behandlungen und Dutzende Demerol-Injektionen, ein Opiat zur Schmerzbekämpfung.
Schnoll sagte, Jacksons medizin. Aufzeichnungen zeigten, dass seine Behandlungen berechtigt/zulässig waren und dass er nie Medikamente/Drogen missbraucht habe.

That changed, he said, as Jackson prepared for his comeback tour. It was in the same period that Murray signed on to be Jackson's personal physician. According to evidence in Murray's criminal case, Murray provided infusions of the anesthetic propofol six nights a week for two months.

The plaintiffs say Jackson's health was deteriorating. Schnoll says that when Jackson missed rehearsals in mid-June, he was showing symptoms typical of Demerol withdrawal, such as chills and runny nose. He said Murray failed to diagnose it.

Yet on cross-examination, Schnoll said the dates did not coincide with Jackson's Demerol treatments. He said it was hard to say whether Jackson was dependent on Demerol at this time.

The plaintiffs said Jackson's earnings could go into the billions of dollars. Schnoll said Jackson could have gone on to live a long and healthy life. Under defense questioning, he qualified his opinion, saying it depended on Jackson getting help for his dependency.

Das änderte sich, sagte er, als sich Jackson auf die Comeback-Tour vorbereitete. Es war in der gleichen Zeit, als CM als MJs persönl. Arzt erschien. Nach den Beweisen aus Murrays Prozess, versorgte er 6 Nächte. die Woche, 2 Monate lang, Michael mit Popofol Infusionen.

Die Ankläger behaupten, mit Jacksons Gesundheit sei es bergab gegangen. Schnoll sagte, dass, als Jackson Mitte Juni die Proben ausließ , er Symptome von typ. Demerol-Entzug zeigte, solche wie laufende Nase und Schüttelfrost. Er sage, Murray habe es verfehlt, dies zu diagnostizieren.

Im Kreuzverhör sagte Schnoll die Zeiten stimmten nicht mit Jacksons Demerol Behandlungen überein. Er sagte, es sei schwer zu sagen, ob Jackson zu dieser Zeit auf Demerol angewiesen war.

Die Kläger behaupten, Jacksons Verdienste hätten in die Milliarden gehen können. Schnoll sagte, Jackson hätte ein langes u. gesundes Leben leben können.
Unter Befragung der Verteidigung, schränkte er seine Meinung ein, in dem er sagte, dass es von Michael abhing Hilfe für seine Abhängigkeit zu bekommen.

Katherine Jackson's attorneys allege that AEG hired Murray and had a responsibility to monitor him. AEG says Jackson selected Murray and that AEG executives were not privy to Jackson's medical care.

Meantime, outside the presence of the jury, the judge warned attorneys to heed her admonishment or they were headed for a mistrial.

K. Jacksons Anwälte unterstellen, dass AEG CM angeheuert habe und eine Verantwortlichkeite hatte, in zu überwachen. AEG sagt, Jackson habe sich CM ausgesucht u. dass die AEG Veranwortlichen nicht mit Jacksons medizinischer Versorgung vertraut gewesen seien.

Unterdessen, während der Abwesenheit der Jury, hat die Richterin die Anwälte ermahnt ihre Verwarnung zu beherzigen, andernfalls würden sie einen Fehlprozess riskieren.
Der Grund hierfür ist ein Statement einer Zeugin der Jacksons am Dienstag. Sie äußerte die Meinung, dass sie überzeugt sei AEG habe CM eingestellt. Die Richterin sagte, dass dies eine Beeinflußung der Jury gewesen sei u. dass die Expertin nicht nach ihrer Meinung hätte gefragt werden dürfen.


The issue was raised because of a statement on Tuesday by a witness for the Jacksons. A human resources expert testified that in her opinion, AEG hired Murray. The judge says that is a determination for the jury and that the expert should not have been asked her opinion.

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Re: Jacksons vs AEG - Day 43 - July 3 2013 - News Only (no discussion)

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That concluded Day 43 of testimony, Week 10. We hope to see you all back on Monday. Happy 4th of July everybody!
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Panish told the judge he's now estimating to finish his case in chief another week or so after the July 8th week, his last estimate.
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Jury ordered to return on Monday at 10 am PT. Plaintiffs will play Dr Finkelstein's deposition. Kenny Ortega set to testify in the afternoon
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Koskoff: And Dr. Murray gave it to him?
Dr. Schnoll: Yes

Dr. Schnoll was then excused and session adjourned. No court tomorrow or Friday.
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Koskoff noted that MJ replied it would be safe if done under the supervision of a doctor.
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Dr. Schnoll said Lee responded that MJ was taking chances.
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Cahan in re-cross: What did nurse Cherilyn Lee said to MJ when he was looking for a doctor to give him Propofol?
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Koskoff asked in re-direct if Propofol was given for the drug or underlying condition. Dr. Schnoll said MJ asked Propofol to help him sleep.
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"They were not symptoms of Demerol withdrawal, but probably of Propofol," Dr. Schnoll testified about MJ's symptoms in June 2009.
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Dr. Schnoll said he looked at the totality of the picture, like a puzzle, trying to put everything together to understand what was going on.
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Dr. Schnoll said he saw a concern one time of MJ going to Santa Ynez Cottage Hospital for excessive use of Demerol.
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Cahan asked if Dr. Schnoll reviewed testimony that MJ had boxes of Propofol at Neverland and asked a doctor to inject him. He said yes.
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Cahan asked about MJ's family failed interventions. He said he doesn't know if they were appropriately done; practice not used as much.
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Dr. Schnoll: MJ could've been off the drugs or taking the drugs in appropriate dosages if properly treated
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Dr. Schnoll said he didn't have 100% success rate in his practice and that no one does.
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"That's why your job is to motivate them and help them see the problems with the dependency," Dr. Schnoll responded.
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Cahan asked about patients who think they have their addiction under control and don't want to quit the drug.
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He doesn't think the symptoms MJ was having on June 19, 2009 were related to Demerol withdrawal.
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Dr. Schnoll: It was very hard for me to say he was dependent that time.
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"It didn't coincide with when I expected that withdrawal to occur," Dr. Schnoll said about MJ.
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"Was he really dependent?" Dr. Schnoll asked himself. He said the appearance of withdrawal from Demerol usually shows within 24-36 hours.
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Dr. Schnoll said he asked for a chart to be made to be able to see how much Demerol MJ was getting and how frequent.
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The expert said that if the withdrawal symptoms were present, someone might have asked why MJ had the flu.
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Dr. Schnoll said he would probably give her initial dose of 50 mg.
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Cahan asked what would happen if doctor gave her 375 mg of Demerol. "For you? You'd probably sleep for a while, about several hours" he said
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In April 2009, MJ received 375 mg of Demerol, the highest amount given by Dr. Klein.
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Dr. Schnoll said he doesn't think MJ was dependent on Demerol in January of 2009.
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Dr. Schnoll said he could not opine whether the treatment after the burn on MJ's scalp was appropriate.
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He's also not absolutely sure, but says MJ was probably dependent on Demerol in 1993.
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He said he continued to investigate the case, looked at more records, and is now uncertain.
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However, Dr. Schnoll says today he's not sure MJ was dependent on Demerol in 2009.
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Cahan asked if Dr. Schnoll testified in his deposition that MJ was dependent on Demerol? He answered yes, the time around the Dangerous tour
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Cahan: Is it legal to write prescription to someone under another name?
Dr. Schnoll: Yes, it's illegal
C: Have you ever done it?
Dr: No
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Dr. Schnoll said you try to look at the whole picture of what was going on and not look at the possibilities, but probablilities.
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Dr. Schnoll: I don't like to work under possibilities, since everything under the sun is possible. I like working with probablilities
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Cahan: Could MJ have opiates in pill forms in 2009 from doctors while having Demerol injections from Dr. Klein?
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Cahan: Did Dr. Klein write prescriptions to Mr. Jackson under other names?
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Cahan: Are you aware of Dr. Klein being investigated...

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Cahan asked if MJ was seeing other doctors at the same time he saw Dr. Murray, like Dr. Klein. Dr. Schnoll said yes.
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Cahan resumed questioning Dr. Schnoll. Katherine left for the day.
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Instruction cont'd: she believed they, AEG, hired Dr Murray. That violated a court order, the statement is stricken, shouldn't be considered
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Jurors brought in at 3:27 pm PT. Judge read them the following instruction: Yesterday, plaintiiff's expert Jean Seawright said
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Judge admonished Panish to tell all experts to abide by her motions in limine.
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Judge: I don't know why you are pointing your fingers that way, Mr. Panish (to AEG's side). I really don't.
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Judge: Every expert is only to make assumptions about hiring. I specifically did that (ruling) for a reason. Advise them about my order!
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Judge: I don't want this kind of problem that can lead to mistrial. I'm asking you to speak with all your experts
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Dr. Schnoll said some of the patients might have been addicted to Propofol, but others were just abusing it.
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Dr. Schnoll said he has treated tens of thousands of patients and only 5-6 were addicted to Propofol. These people were in the medical field
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The doctor agreed that some lay people could identify the symptoms as flu.
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Dr. Schnoll said most doctors would be able to put all the symptoms together and conclude it is opioid withdrawal.
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Some of opioids withdrawal include chills, running nose, tearing of the eyes, dilated pupil, goose bumps.
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The expert said people would recognize there was something wrong with MJ, but may not be able to recognize it as withdrawal from opioids.
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Dr. Schnoll said people get confused as to whether the patient is addicted or dependent of drugs.
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Cahan: There has got to be some amount of trust between doctor and patient?
Dr. Schnoll: Right
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Dr. Schnoll: Well, of they came to me to treat addiction, they usually would come because they wanted to treat their addiction
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Cahan: Did some patients did not want to get treatment?
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Cahan: When you are evaluating a patient you rely on the patient being honest with you, correct?
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Dr. Schnoll did not offer opinion whether the amount or type of drug MJ was taking for cosmetic and dental work was appropriate.
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"There was no evidence of addiction at that time," Dr. Schnoll said about MJ in 2009.
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Dr. Schnoll said he last prescribed Demerol in the late 1970s. He stopped treating patients in 2001.
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Dr. Schnoll: Probably not at all at this point, pain specialist would not keep Demerol handy
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Dr. Schnoll said use of Demerol for pain went into question in the '90s.

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Dr Schnoll said Demerol is not commonly used anymore because it has other effects than just opioids, considered a dirty drug the doctor said
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Dr. Schnoll responded he didn't know, since he doesn't do these procedures.
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Cahan asked if it's common practice to use Demerol for Botox injections and facial fillers treatment.
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Just the fact that Dr. Klein injected MJ with Demerol doesn't raise concern of a relapse of Demerol dependency, Dr. Schnoll.
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Dr. Schnoll: If they have a severe pain problem that can only be treated by opioids, it is appropriate to give it.
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A professional doctor knows the difference between addiction and pseudoaddiction.

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Pseudoaddiction is when a patient is undertreated for pain, Dr. Schnoll said.
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Dr. Schnoll said doctor shopping is going from doctor to doctor to receive medication.
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There were weeks he put in 7-8 hours, some didn't do anything. He said it would be hard to estimate, spoke with plaintiff atty 10-15 times
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Dr. Schnoll said he has no idea how many hours he has worked in this case. He was retained back in January.
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Cahan said Pinney Associates is charging $790/hour for Dr. Schnoll's time.
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Dr. Schnoll works for Pinney Associates, he's a salaried employee and receives bonus at the end of the year, should there be one.
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Cahan: You were never hired as a doctor to accompany a band on tour?
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"I knew most of them and I knew them well," Dr. Schnoll said.
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Cahan asked if Dr Schnoll brought medical students to help him out. He said yes. She asked if he did background or credit checks on them
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Dr. Schnoll said he acted ethically at that job. He worked at rock concerts in the '70s.
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Cahan: Did you think that created a conflict of interest?
Dr. Schnoll: As long as I acted ethically, I did not
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Dr. Schnoll said his primary duty was to treat concert goers. He was paid by the promoters.
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Dr. Schnoll said at times he was asked to treat performers, was hired to provide medical treatment at the facility to fans or artists.
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I know some people who worked at concerts, Dr. Schnoll said. He has been one.
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Cahan: Do you think it's ethical for doctors to go on tour?
Dr. Schnoll: It depends on what they do when they go on tour with them
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Dr. Schnoll created the term "Rock Doc", referring to doctors who work on rock n roll concerts.
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Koskoff finished direct examination. AEG attorney Kathryn Cahan did cross examination of Dr. Schnoll.
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Dr. Schnoll said he's reading Richards' book, but hasn't finished yet. Defendant's objected to the doctor talking about it based on hearsay.
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Keith Richards and The Rolling Stones have been performing for 50 years. Richards writes in his autobiography about his drug addiction.
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If MJ got proper treatment, he would have like normal life expectancy, Dr. Schnoll said.
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Drug addicts can die early due to overdose; infections are very common, like HIV, Dr. Schnoll said.
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Dr. Schnoll: If appropriately treated, it would have no affect
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Koskoff: Assuming he was not addicted, but had periods of drug dependency, would that have an impact on his life expectancy?
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Dr. Schnoll agreed MJ had the means to get proper drug dependency treatment.
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Koskoff: Based on Mr. Jackson's family, do you know if any members of his family were addicted?
Dr. Schnoll: I have no indication of that
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Dr. Schnoll: Some of the best outcomes in treatment are with people who have a lot to lose if they continue their addiction.
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"The autopsy said he was in really, very good condition," Dr. Schnoll told the jury about MJ.
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Having a supportive family and environment is critical in overcoming addiction, Dr. Schnoll explained.
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Dr. Schnoll: He could've been treated, he could've been treated if he had the proper people
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Koskoff: Let's assume MJ really was addicted to Demerol in 2009, do you have an opinion as to his prognosis for successful treatment?
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Koskoff: Assuming MJ was dependent, do you think proper treatment would be able to eliminate his dependency?
Dr. Schnoll: Yes
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Dr. Schnoll said if MJ were treated appropriately for pain and sleeping problems, it would not have an effect in shortening his life.
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Dr. Schnoll: Should MJ have someone knowledgeable for treatment of pain, he could've been treated appropriately
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Dr. Schnoll testified MJ had two major problems: pain and insomnia.
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"He would've been able to continue to perform if he was appropriately treated for the underlying medical conditions," Dr. Schnoll said.
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Dr. Schnoll: If his underlying medical condition, pain, insomnia, had been appropriately treated, he may have been able to get off the drugs
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Koskoff asked if MJ were under the care of a competent doctor, would he have been able to get off the drugs, Demerol and benzodiazepines.
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"They pass catheters and look at hearts, which is totally unrelated to pain," Dr. Schnoll said about cardiologists.
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Dr. Schnoll: Dr. Murray was an interventionist cardiologist and that is a highly specialized field. He had no background in treating pain.
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Koskoff: Assuming AEG hired Dr. Murray, was he fit and competent to treat Michael's sleep problems?
Dr. Schnoll: No, he was not
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Koskoff: Assuming AEG hired Dr. Murray, was he fit and competent to treat Michael's pain problems?
Dr. Schnoll: No, he was not
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Koskoff: Was Dr. Murray competent to handle MJ's sleep problems?
Dr. Schnoll: He was not competent
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Koskoff: Was Dr. Murray competent to handle MJ's drug dependency issues?
Dr. Schnoll: He was not competent
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Koskoff: Was Dr. Murray competent to handle MJ's pain?
Dr. Schnoll: He was not competent
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The hospital computer overloaded with people trying to get information on what happened with Sinatra, Dr. Schnoll said.
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Dr. Schnoll said once Frank Sinatra went to the hospital he worked after collapsing on the stage.
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Sometimes prescription is given under other people's names, Dr. Schnoll said, since celebrities often don't want people prying their records
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"If you are dependent, you could have some insomnia if you go off of it," Dr. Schnoll testified.
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Koskoff: What does Demerol do to sleep?
Dr. Schnoll: When you are taking it, it could make you sleepy
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He also said this drug would not have had effect on MJ on June 25.
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Dr. School said there was no trace of the drug in MJ's body at the time of his death.
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The very last Demerol injection MJ received from Dr. Klein was on June 22, 100 mg dose, according to the records, Dr. Schnoll testified.
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Koskoff: Is there a record MJ was getting Demerol from any other doctor?
Dr. Schnoll: No
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Dose went up in January 2009. Dr Schnoll said if a person was previously dependent on Demerol, stops and then resumes, tolerance is built up
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Dr. Schnoll talked about Dr. Klein giving MJ 100mg doses of Demerol in 2008. He said from mid-year to December it was the same amount.
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Dr. Schnoll said Propofol is not appropriate to treat insomnia, even if MJ suggested it.
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Koskoff asked if there was any evidence MJ was addicted or dependent of Propofol up until Dr. Murray. Dr. Schnoll said no.
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Dr. Murray used Propofol for sleep, which Dr. Schnoll said was inappropriate. "Plus, he was not an anesthetic or an anesthesiologist."
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The drug was used for dental procedures and cosmetic treatment, Dr. Schnoll said, adding it was appropriate for that.
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Between 1994 and 1996, Dr. Schnoll saw no evidence of any use of Propofol by MJ under any circumstance.
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Koskoff: What kind of specialist was on that tour for Michael?
Dr. Schnoll: He was anesthesiologist
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Dr. Schnoll testified Debbie Rowe said yes, but she wasn't sure if it was Propofol or Fentanyl. He didn't think Rowe was a licensed nurse.
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Koskoff showed a timeline and asked if there was any record MJ received Propofol during the Dangerous tour in 1994.
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Propofol is the most popular anesthetic in the world, Dr. Schnoll said. Propofol is the generic term.
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Dr. Schnoll said after the Propofol infusion stops, the effect wears off quickly.
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"Typically, they steal it from operating room or critical care unit or inject it in a home, or a bathroom," Dr. Schnoll explained.
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Dr. Schnoll treated patients addicted to Propofol. They were health technicians and none had it administered by another person.
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Koskoff: Did he use it for sleep?
Dr. Schnoll: Yes
K: Is that appropriate?
Dr: Yes
K: Did MJ have a sleep problem?
Dr: Yes
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Dr. Schnoll said MJ was prescribed Midazolam and Versed which is commonly for short term surgical procedures, dental procedures.
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Koskoff: Was there a time MJ did take benzodiazepines?
Dr. Schnoll: Yes
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Dr. Schnoll: I don’t know if MJ was an addict. I haven’t seen the information that would allow me to make a diagnosis of addiction
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Koskoff: On Dangerous tour, was MJ getting opioid drugs according to Dr. Finkelstein?
Dr. Schnoll: Yes
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Dr. Schnoll talked about the surgery MJ to repair damage to his scalp.
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The expert said he saw evidence MJ was afraid of needles; didn't take medications in excess of what was prescribed by doctors.
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Dr. Schnoll said he saw no evidence that MJ ever used recreational drug or self-injected in the absence of a doctor.
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Koskoff: Do you agree with that opinion?
Dr. Schnoll: No
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Koskoff asked if Dr. Schnoll read testimony from Dr. Earley saying MJ was a drug addict and that he was going to die early.
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Koskoff asked if that was consistent with a drug addict. Dr. Schnoll answered no.
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Koskoff said based on the medical records in the last 16 years of MJ’s life, he was Demerol free for 13 1/2 years.
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The patch was done for treatment of Demerol dependency in early 2000s. The drug would block the effect of the opioid, Dr. Schnoll said.
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Dr. Schnoll said he reviewed medical records that Dr. Farshian implanted a patch into MJ's abdomen.
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Koskoff: Was there a period of time when MJ used Demerol for scalp treatments?
Dr. Schnoll: Yes
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Koskoff: Any evidence from any witness that MJ used Demerol outside the medical setting?
Dr. Schnoll: No
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“Opioids are most popular because they work," Dr. Schnoll said. "Pain is the most common complaint that comes to a doctor's office.”
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Dr. Schnoll explained pain threshold is the level at which someone feels discomfort. They are quite variable, he said.
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Dr. Schnoll: The figures indicate 10 to 12% become addicted, the same percentage of people who become addicted to alcohol.
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Some patients become addicted, Dr. Schnoll said. But it's not s large percentage.
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Dr. Schnoll: if they're on long term opioid treatment, they'll become dependent. Opioids are the most commonly prescribed drugs in the US.
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Koskoff: If a person is being treated, as part of good medical practice, can someone become drug dependent?
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Dr. Schnoll said addiction can also be treated by competent and fit physicians.
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Koskoff: Any famous people who have been opioid dependent?
Dr. Schnoll: President John F. Kennedy (Judge asks why?) Back pain.
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If a person has underlying condition and take opioid they could function better, Dr Schnoll explained. There's no harm in doing it medically
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Koskoff: What if a person has chronic osteoarthritis?
Dr. Schnoll: May have remain on medication all his life
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Dr. Schnoll said the most important factor in determining if the person should go off the drug is to find out what the underlying problem is
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Methodone is an opioid drug used for pain and treatment of opioid addiction. Dr. Schnoll explained how the drug works.
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Koskoff asked if you take someone off Demorol suddenly what happens. Dr. Schnoll: “like falling off a cliff, you don’t want that to happen.”
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Katherine Jackson was present in court wearing a long periwinkle jacket and pearl earrings.
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Addiction specialist Dr. Sidney Schnoll resumed testimony. Jackson's attorney Michael Koskoff did direct examination.

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Re: Jacksons vs AEG - Day 43 - July 3 2013 - News Only (no discussion)

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Schnoll spent about another hour on the witness stand, reiterating his point that there was no sign in records that Jackson was an addict.
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The judge said the jury should disregard her testimony about whether AEG Live hired Conrad Murray.
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The jury was brought in, and Palazuelos read an instruction stating that Seawright violated a court order.
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Palazuelos: “I don’t know why you’re pointing the finger that way.” She told Panish to make sure he warns his experts from now on.
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Panish also said that he was trying to counter questions from AEG’s attorneys that suggested Seawright didn’t have an opinion.
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Palazuelos: “This is my concern. Nine weeks into this trial and this is getting in a mistrial situation.” (We’re in 10th wk of testimony.)7
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Panish protested, saying “All I was trying to show was that she was trying to show was that she has an opinion.”
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The judge said the answer veered into mistrial territory, and that Panish should have warned Seawright to not state her opinion.
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Panish had asked whether Seawright she had an opinion on whether AEG Live hired Murray. He said today he thought it was a yes-no question.
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Seawright told the jury she thought AEG did hire Murray, based on a question from plaintiff’s attorney Brian Panish.
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The judge noted that expert witnesses had been instructed not to state opinions on whether AEG Live hired Conrad Murray.
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After the afternoon break, Judge Yvette Palazuelos returned to the testimony of HR expert Jean Seawright. She was upset about yesterday.
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The doctor said he probably hadn’t prescribed Demerol since the 1970s. (He hasn’t been practicing with patients for several years.)
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AEG defense attorney Kathryn Cahan also asked Schnoll about Demerol. He called it a “dirty opioid.”
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On cross-examination, she tried to make the point that it’s hard for a lay person to tell difference between addiction and dependency.
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Schnoll said even if Jackson were addicted to medications, with proper treatment he could have lived a long, healthy life.
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The doctor also addressed Demerol use, saying there was no sign Jackson received the drug between 2003 and 2008.
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Schnoll’s point about the documented use of propofol by Jackson was that it was in medical settings with proper supervision. Until C. Murray
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He said Rowe used two different names for medications she saw Jackson receive in 1993, so it wasn’t clear if propofol was used.
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Schnoll said it wasn’t clear if Jackson received propofol during the 1993 “Dangerous” tour because Debbie Rowe wasn’t clear.
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The records showed that Jackson received propofol for dental procedures dating back to 1997, Schnoll said.
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Schnoll reviewed medical records dating back until at least 1997. They included dental records, and files of Arnold Klein.
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Schnoll said based on his review of medical records, he saw no evidence that Jackson was addicted to prescription meds.
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I’ve been dealing with some tech issues and a time crunch today, so will address the main points of Schnoll’s testimony.
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As for today's proceedings, testimony of Dr. Sidney Schnoll concluded today.
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Finkelstein's deposition will take the morning session. Kenny Ortega is scheduled to be the Monday afternoon witness.
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We're done for the day in Jackson vs. AEG Live. Court resumes on Monday at 10 a.m.
They'll play the deposition of Dr. Stuart Finkelstein.
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He's also started to discuss Michael Jackson's medical history. I may have more updates in a little while. Gotta review some notes.
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Schnoll is being questioned by plaintiff’s attorney Michael Koskoff. He started out discussing pain management drugs, addiction solutions.
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Dr. Sidney Schnoll, an addiction and pain management expert, remains on the stand.
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We’re on a break in Jackson vs AEG Live trial. Katherine and Trent Jackson are here today.

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Michael Jackson was not abusing pain medication in years leading up to comeback tour deal with AEG Live, says doctor

Michael Jackson missbrauchte keine Schmerz Medikamenmte in den Jahren vor seiner Comeback Tour, sagt ein Arzt.


Michael Jackson apparently was clean and not abusing pain medication in the years leading up to his comeback tour deal with concert promoter AEG Live, a Connecticut doctor testified Wednesday.

Dr. Sidney Schnoll based his opinion on medical records stating the King of Pop only needed 100 milligrams of the narcotic pain medication Demerol to knock him out for a dermatology procedure in late 2008.

Dr. Sidney Schnoll begründet seine Meinung auf den medizinischen Aufzeichnungen, die besagen, dass Mj nur 100mg Demerol benötigte, um ihn in einer OP 2008 zu betäuben.
Schnoll sagt, würde eine zu hohe Toleranz afgebnaut haben, dass diese Dosis wirkenwürde, wenn er Opiate missbraucht hätte ab dem Prozess 2005.
„Er hätte dann viel höhere Dosen Demerol nehmen müssen, um den nötigen Effekt für eine OP zu erzielen.“ sagt Schnoll den Juroren.

Schnoll said Jackson would have built up too much tolerance for that dose to work if he frequently abused opioids during the era of his 2005 molestation trial and subsequent travels abroad.
“He would have to take a much higher dose of Demerol to get the (necessary) effect for the surgery," Schnoll told jurors.
The New Jersey-born doctor was acting as a paid expert witness for Jackson’s mother, Katherine.

Der Arzt sagt als bezahlter Experte für Jacksons Muter Katherine aus.

Katherine Jackson, 83, is suing AEG Live for wrongful death, claiming the concert promoter negligently hired Dr. Conrad Murray as tour physician and set the stage for her son’s fatal 2009 overdose on the surgery-strength anesthetic propofol.
AEG vehemently denies any wrongdoing, saying Jackson personally hired Murray and begged for secret, bedroom-based infusions of the intravenous drug he called “milk.”

During his testimony, Schnoll said he didn’t believe Michael was an addict who craved and used drugs recreationally. Rather he was a patient who developed an opioid dependence because of legitimate pain related to his burned scalp.
He said plenty of celebrities have suffered opioid dependence, including President John F. Kennedy, who had debilitating back pain.
Schnoll said Jackson even got a Narcan implant in his abdomen in 2003 that steadily released Naltrexone, a drug that blocks the euphoric effects of opioids.

Während seiner Aussage sagt Schnoll, er glaube nicht, dass MJ ein Süchtiger war, der Drogen zum Spass ("Freizeitdrogen") gebrauchte. Er war vielmehr ein Patient, der eine Opiat -Abhängigkeit entwickelt hatte auf Grund von Schmerzen, die er von seiner Kopfverbrennung hatte.
Er sagte dass viele Celebrities Opiat Abhängigkeiten haben, incl. Präsident J.F. Kennedy, der unter Rückenschmerzen litt.
Schnoll sagt, MJ habe 2003 sogar ein Narcan Implantat bekommen, welches konstant Naltrexon abgibt, ein Medikament, was die euphorisierenden Effekte von Opiaten blockiert.

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The Jacksons vs. AEG Live — Was letzte Woche sonst noch Interessantes lief

2. Juli 2013

Zwei Ersatzgeschworene berichteten der vorsitzenden Richterin am Freitag, dass während einer Pause eine Frau mit ihnen Kontakt aufgenommen hatte.

Ersatzgeschworener Nr. 1 sagte, die Frau habe gesagt “Bitte gebt ihnen (den Jacksons) kein Geld”. Dem Ersatzgeschworenen Nr. 5 habe sie gesagt: “Ich wollte nur sagen, dass Sie ihnen kein Geld zusprechen sollen”. Beide Ersatzgeschworenen sagten, der Zwischenfall würde ihre Fähigkeit, ein faires Urteil in diesem Prozess zu fällen, nicht beeinträchtigen.

Kommentar von jackson.ch: Wie bereits bei den Anschuldigungen von Wade Robson sowie den neuen Anschuldigungen in der Boulevardpresse (siehe unsere heutige Meldung dazu), ist neben dem Inhalt das Timing höchst interessant — und suspekt.

Interessant war auch AEG Lives Reaktion auf die obigen Ereignisse. So nahm AEG Anwalt Marvin Putnam diese zum Anlass zu beantragen, dass die Richterin die Zahl der Michael Jackson Fans, die im Gang zum Gerichtssaal Michael Jackson T-Shirts und Schilder zur Unterstützung von Katherine Jackson tragen, reduzieren möge. Richterin Palazuelos wies den Antrag ab mit der Begründung, dass die Jackson Fans das Recht auf freie Meinungsäusserung hätten und sie dieses Recht nicht einschränken kann. Manchmal nimmt es mich ja schon Wunder, was in Putnams Kopf vorgeht. Aber vermutlich ist es besser, wenn wir das nicht wissen.

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The Jacksons vs. AEG Live — Zeugen der Jacksons, 31. Teil

2. Juli 2013

Am letzten Freitag fuhr AEG Live Anwalt Marvin Putnam mit seinem Kreuzverhör von Karen Faye fort. Gestern rief Jackson Anwalt Brian Panish mit Personalberaterin Jean Seawright eine weitere Expertenzeugin für die Jackson Seite in den Zeugenstand.

Am letzten Freitag wurde Karen Faye, Michaels langjährige Hair & Make-up Artist und langjährigen gute Freundin, nach sieben Wochen seit ihrer ersten Befragung zurück in den Zeugenstand gerufen. AEG Lives Anwalt Marvin Putnam wollte mit seinem Kreuzverhör weiterfahren, das sieben Wochen zuvor abgebrochen wurde. Was Putnam mit seiner Befragung bezweckte bzw. für seine Seite herausholte oder holen wollte, ist (auf jeden Fall auf den ersten Blick) nicht ersichtlich. Es gab, wenn man den Bericht der LA Times liest, weder neue Informationen noch kam es soweit, dass Karen frühere Aussagen ihrerseits widerrief bzw. korrigierte. Ein Grossteil der Befragung schien sich um die diversen Perücken von Michael drehen. Weshalb das von Interesse und vor allem von Relevanz sein soll, das wissen die (AEG) Götter. Wer interessiert ist, kann hier http://teammichaeljackson.com/archives/8898 das Protokoll von Karen Fayes Kreuzverhör nachlesen.

Gestern rief Jackson Anwalt Brian Panish einen weiteren Experten für ihre Seite in den Zeugenstand: Jean Seawright, eine Personalberaterin. Seawright sagte aus, dass nach Durchsicht der Unterlagen, AEG Live es unterlassen hatte, das angemessene Anstellungsprozedere bei der Wahl von Conrad Murray anzuwenden, ungeachtet dessen, ob er als Angestellter von AEG Live oder als selbständiger Unternehmer betrachtet wird. Conrad Murrays Rolle wurde von Seawright als eine Position mit “sehr hohem Risiko” beschrieben, wenn man die damit verbundenen Pflichten in Betracht zieht (inkl. Zugang zur Krankengeschichte von Michael Jackson und dessen privates Leben). Ein Unternehmen, das sich korrekt verhält, wenn es um die Personalanstellung geht, wägt die Risiken ab, die mit der Stelle verbunden sind. Als Brian Panish seine Zeugin fragte, ob sie der Meinung sei, dass AEG Live dies gemacht habe, antwortete sie, dass sie keine Beweise gesehen habe, die dies bestätigen würden. Wie bereits einige Male zuvor, wurde auch hier die E-Mail von AEG Live CEO Randy Phillips an Kenny Ortega zum Diskussionspunkt. Es handelte sich um die E-Mail, in der Phillips Ortega geschrieben hatte, dass Murray ein sehr erfolgreicher Arzt wäre und sie jeden, den sie anstellen überprüfen. Phillips schrieb in der E-Mail auch, dass Murray diesen Job nicht brauche und er daher total unbefangen sei. Gemäss Seawright weise die E-Mail darauf hin, dass Phillips die Kriterien für diesen Job kannte und dass AEG ein Prozedere aufgesetzt hatte, um (potentielle) Mitarbeiter zu überprüfen. Sie habe jedoch in den Unterlagen nichts gesehen, dass bestätigen könnte, dass AEG damals Murrays Background überprüft hatte. Und nun hätten sie, salopp gesagt, den Salat.

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Jacksons vs AEG - Day 39 – June 27 2013 – Summary

Katherine, TJ and Taj Jackson are in court.


TJ Jackson Testimony

Jackson direct

Plaintiffs called next witness, Tito Jackson, also known as TJ Jackson. TJ is MJ's children cousin and co-guardian. (ABC7)

Jackson's attorney Kevin Boyle questioning him Boyle: Have you testified before? TJ: I think this is my first time, so I'm a little nervous. (ABC7)

TJ says he goes by TJ Jackson, since his father is also Tito and people would get the two confused. Katherine Jackson is TJ's grandmother. Tito is MJ's brother, member of Jackson 5 with Jackie, Marlon, Jermaine and Michael. TJ is cousin and co-guardian of Michael's children. TJ said he's from Encino, CA, raised there like most of his family. He went to Buckley School in Sherman Oaks, same as Prince attends now. TJ said he has 3 biological children and 2 stepchildren. He has 2 daughters, age 2 and 5, 13 year old son, 19 and 21 year old stepchildren. TJ said he does music with his brothers primarily, he's a third of band "3T." TJ' wife is a fitness trainer, and they have their own fitness center. He's also a real estate broker, has license but doesn't practice. (ABC7)

"My primary things are my kids, my cousins and my family," TJ said. Boyle: So you don't have a lot of free time? TJ: No, I don't (laughs)

TJ and his brothers Taj and Taryll Jackson compose the 3T group. Boyle: I know you're humble, but you sold millions and millions of records? TJ: Yes (ABC7)

TJ lives in Corona, CA. He explained that when he had his son Royal, he wanted to slow down the pace, wanted smaller community feeling. TJ explained Corona is multi-national area. "When I grew up, I was the only black kid in school," he said. "It was sometimes uncomfortable".TJ doesn't go to Calasabas, where the children live, during rush hour. Sometimes he's there for six days in a row, sometimes once a week. TJ testified he's 34 years old and drives a Honda Accord. "I just need something to get from A to B and the Honda has served me well." Prince has a Ford truck, TJ said. No Ferrari, or Porsche, or expensive car. (ABC7)

TJ broke down when Boyle asked him about his relationship with MJ. He bowed his head for a few minutes and cried. TJ: "My mother was murdered a month after I turned 16. My world crumbled and my uncle Michael saved it""He was just, he was there. He kept me inspired, he kept me ambitious, he was just there for me," TJ explained about Michael Jackson. He said he was raised by his brothers, father and when he needed advice he'd turn to his uncle Michael. (ABC7) TJ’s mother Delores, also known as Dee Dee, was murdered when he was 16. “My world crumbled and my uncle Michael saved it,” he said. (AP)

"He was just everything," T.J., bowing his head in tears and needing a minute to compose himself. (NYDailyNews)

TJ said he's teaching MJ's children to be ambitious, be giving, be loving, be honest and to make their mark in the world. (ABC7)
TJ said his uncle gave him advice and tried to provide him with inspiration tried to keep him inspired. “He was just there for me.” He said Jackson bought him and his brothers instruments and fostered their interest in music, but wanted them to earn their careers. (AP)

TJ said MJ wanted him to go to college. He applied at LMU, UCLA and University of Pennsylvania. He wanted to study Business. "I got into all three," TJ said. They are all considered the top Business schools in the country. TJ said MJ wanted him to go, and he regrets turning it down. "He wanted me to go, he just though it was going to be good for me." "My brothers and I were doing quite well touring around the world," TJ said, that's why he didn't go to Wharton School in Pennsylvania. (ABC7) He said his uncle pushed him to go to the Wharton School of Business, but TJ didn’t end up going. He said he regretted it. (AP)

"From the beginning, along with my father, he was there inspiring us," TJ said about uncle Michael. TJ said his mother would call all her children the 3T, which originated the name of the group. "Especially when my mother passed, he took us under his wing and became important part of our success," TJ said about MJ. "I think he wanted us to earn things in our own," TJ explained, saying MJ would not use his power to benefit the group. Boyle showed video of 3T and clip of MJ's song "Why." Boyle: Did you consider your uncle your mentor? TJ: Definitely (ABC7)

"He's always wanted to be a parent," TJ said about Michael Jackson.
"Eventually he did have his kids, and they were everything to him, the joy of his life," TJ testified. (ABC7)

TJ said he never knew how famous his uncle was until he was already grown-up. "On the HIStory tour, I was probably 19, my uncle had a show on a stadium. The whole route there were people clapping," TJ recalled. "That was probably the first time I really realized his impact in the world," TJ said about MJ. TJ: He was very humble, extremely humble, checking on us, talking about school, amazing to see contradiction outside, people cherishing him. (ABC7) He recounted an incident in Spain where people lined the streets for 5 miles to cheer Jackson on. “He was very humble about that,” TJ said. (AP)

TJ told the jury about Jackson’s generosity and how he won $200 in a trivia contest his uncle officiated between TJ and his brothers. (AP)"My uncle was kind of person he would give us some cash," TJ testified. "He's always given couple of hundred of dollars to myself, my brothers and pretty much whomever was around," TJ said. "He would drive around to areas with poor people and would give hundred dollar bills to people to make their lives a little better," TJ said. As to MJ's charities, TJ said he knows about "Heal the World." He said MJ visited hospital around the world, worked with "Make a Wish"."He was very giving of his time, everything that help put a smile on children's face," TJ explained. (ABC7)

"My grandmother is the queen," TJ testified. "She's the CEO and I help her with the day to day stuff (of co-guardianship) as much as I can." TJ said he does a lot of the doctor's appointments, school stuff, extra curriculum activity, deals with security for children. "Because of who they are, it demands a lot of time and energy," TJ explained saying it's not the kids fault but their high profile status. TJ: Grandma is the overseer, she knows everything that happens, she's there every day, making decisions. "If they want to go out it the movie they know to ask grandma," TJ testified. "She's the one to be commended, her life had changed quite a bit as well," TJ said about grandma Katherine. TJ: I don't think I would be able to live properly my life if I didn't try to help my cousins to be who my uncle wanted them to be. "I can't really see myself far away from them until I make sure they are adults and are what they are supposed to be" TJ said about the kids. (ABC7)

Boyle was then asked about each of the children. Of Prince, he said he’s “poised and ambitious” and is extremely smart, reads a lot of books. “I just think the loss of the uncle has hit her at a different level,” TJ said of Paris. TJ then described Paris’ relationship with her dad. He described her as a daddy’s girl who’s struggling with the loss of her father. He said he always thought Prince was his uncle’s little assistant. Blanket was always wrapped his father’s leg, TJ recalled.(AP)

"Prince is an amazing person, very strong, very smart," TJ testified; he was always devouring books, very poised and ambitious, very loving. "Paris has a heart of gold as well," TJ said. TJ on Paris: I think the loss of my uncle has hit her in a different spot. She's having a difficult time, but we're giving her love/support. (ABC7)

TJ talked about the paparazzi. "It's a complete annoyance, it's awful, I feel there should be something done." He agrees with Halle Berry's attempt to create a law preventing paparazzi to follow children. TJ said he supports it 100%. (ABC7)

Scrutiny by paparazzi has made it more difficult for the children of Michael Jackson to grieve for their dead father, TJ told jury.TJ Jackson said the three children don't like the attention, and he supports any legislative effort to curb photographers from pursuing images of the sons and daughters of celebrities. "In my opinion, I know it's making everything harder for the kids to grieve and recover and progress," Jackson said. TJ Jackson said he had to consider whether Michael Jackson's youngest son Blanket should attend martial arts classes on Tuesday because photographers would be interested in getting a shot of the 11-year-old on the fourth anniversary of his father's death. (AP)

"I know it's making harder for the kids to progress," TJ said about the paparazzi. TJ on Paris: It's tough. She was daddy's girl. My uncle was her world, he gave her more love for it to be taken away it's been very hard. "For all of them, but for her more being the princess," TJ said about Paris. "Prince was my uncle's little assistant," TJ said. He is very mature. "I think my uncle knew he would have to be very sharp," TJ said. "Prince had always been mature beyond his years." Blanket was always wrapped around behind MJ's leg, TJ said. "Wherever my uncle was, Blanket was just steps away. "My uncle was everything for Blanket," TJ said. Blanket was either 7-8 when MJ died.(ABC7)

T.J. Jackson said Prince was Michael Jackson's "little assistant." "He was very mature for his age, very smart. My uncle would prepare him for things" by telling him about his business deals. "He's very strong, he's very smart," he testified. "He was always the smartest kid I'd ever known." As a guardian, T.J. Jackson said he must constantly deal with paparazzi stalking the children for photographs. "It's, just to be frank, a complete annoyance," he said. "It's awful." He suggested there should be a new law to protect celebrity children from photographers. "I know it's making everything harder for the kids to grieve and to recover and to progress," he said. (CNN)

"I don't want to go into details on what's going on with Paris now, but could you explain how Paris is handling the loss of her father?" asked Kevin Boyle, one of the lawyers representing Katherine in her wrongful death case against concert promoter AEG Live. "It's tough," TJ said. "She was daddy's girl. My uncle was her world."T.J. acknowledged Michael's death has "been very hard" for all three kids - including Michael’s sons Prince, 16, and Blanket, 11 - but Paris was "the princess of his life.""Paris has a heart of gold," he said of the 15-year-old. "I just think the loss of my uncle has hit her at a different level. She's in a tough spot, but we're all loving her and doing everything we can to get her where she should be." (NYDailyNews)

"The loss of my uncle has hit her at a different level and she's in a tough spot, but we're loving her and doing everything we can," T.J. Jackson testified Thursday. He said he was at a loss for words to describe what Paris is going through. "It's tough, you know, it's tough." "She was daddy's girl," he said. "My uncle was her world. My uncle gave them more love and for it to be taken away, it's been very hard for Paris, and for all of them." Blanket, who was 7 when his father died, "was always wrapped around his leg, very shy," T.J. Jackson said. "Wherever my uncle was, Blanket was a foot away, My uncle was everything to Blanket." (CNN)

TJ said he lived a couple of blocks away from Hayvenhurst, would go out there to grandma's house quite often. "My uncle just cherished my grandmother, named everything after her, from mountain to next house," TJ testified. "My grandma is the queen." "I think my grandmother was everything to my uncle," TJ testified. (ABC7)

TJ on grandma Katherine: It's hard, very hard, it's tough for me as her grandson, don't know what to say or do. I try to help with the kids."Our children is supposed to outlive us, so it's been very difficult on my grandmother," TJ said. (ABC7)

Boyle asked TJ about Kai Chase, his uncle’s chef who now works for Katherine. He says he had no idea she might be a witness in this case. TJ said he hadn’t heard of Chase until Prince, Paris and Blanket asked for her. (AP) Boyle: Who hired Kai Chase back? TJ: It was a suggestion I made. A couple of employees were let go, as co-guardian job to replace cook/nanny. "The kids just liked Kai, they asked for Kai, and I asked my grandmother and she was okay with it," TJ said. Boyle asked if Chase was hired back in an effort to influence her testimony in this case. "Not a chance, it's silly," TJ said. "It's impossible, I did a lot of the legwork to get Kai back," TJ testified. (ABC7)

TJ first heard of Dr. Murray after MJ passed. (ABC7)

After MJ died, Grace Rwamba came back to work with the family, TJ explained. But he said there was a situation where Grace had to move on. TJ: I was a little disappointed she had to. Along with my grandmother, she was the mother figure the kids had in their lives. "I don't know specifically what happened but I think there had been conflicts between Grace and other members of the family," TJ said. TJ said MJ raised the kids differently. They read a lot, didn't watch tv during the week, one movie a week if they earned, TJ explained."Once my uncle passed, they came into my grandma's house in regular society, it was hard to maintain the same lifestyle," TJ expressed. "She (Grace) wanted to maintain, as did my brothers and I, my uncle's child raising," TJ said. (ABC7)

Boyle asked TJ about Paris deposition regarding Grace. Defendant's attorney objected, they went to a sidebar and lunch break. (ABC7)


AEG Cross

Attorney Jessica Stebbins Bina did the cross examination of TJ on behalf of AEG. (ABC7)

Bina asked about Katherine's health problems last summer and if he's aware of any health problems? TJ said no. (ABC7) Her first questions before the lunch break were about Katherine Jackson’s absence last year. Stebbins Bina asked whether he was aware of any health problems Katherine Jackson experienced that prompted her time away. TJ said he’d heard talk about Katherine Jackson having health issues, but he’s not aware of any that she actually has. (AP)

Bina inquired how many times TJ saw or spoke with MJ and the children. He said he spoke with his uncle every other month. TJ definitely remembers seeing MJ at least once in 2009. (ABC7)

Bina asked if TJ draws salary for being MJ's children co-guardian. "It was hard for me to accept it, my grandmother insisted and a couple of months ago I began receiving it," TJ said. (ABC7)

Bina asked about children being more exposed to the media after MJ died, like going on Oprah and Prince working on Entertainment Tonight. "It's difficult, because they are 15 and 16," TJ said. "It's hard to maintain that private life." "It was very important for him to excel in his career," TJ said about Prince. "I didn't release music until I was 16 or 17," TJ said. "I encourage them to be children first." Paris wants to be an actress, Prince says he wants to act then become a producer, TJ explained. Bina: As their guardian you haven't prevented them to be in the public eye TJ: It's hard to do that when he's straight A student with honors. 'If he really wants to do it, 100%, he should be able to do it at 16," TJ said about Prince working on a television show. "I wanted to do for the art of it, I like the quiet, private life," TJ explained."I would say they want to build their own career, and ET is a stepping stone for his acting career," TJ said about Prince. TJ: It's tough, as long as he (Prince) understands his responsibilities and the pitfalls, it's hard to say no (ABC7)

Bina: You didn't go to Carolwood house? TJ: Not before MJ died (ABC7)

TJ said the last time he saw MJ alive was in his grandparents anniversary, where most of the family member were there. Bina notes the anniversary happened on May 14, 2009. "He was in a good mood," TJ recalled. "He was happy, he was talking about the kids, making jokes, that stuff." TJ didn't remember MJ being extremely thin then, but said he wasn't concerned to check it."He was just happy and jolly and I was just happy to see him and the kids," TJ said. TJ: We talked primarily about the children, that I wanted more kids, talked about movies.TJ said before MJ left, he asked him if he was going to London. "I said 100% and he said ok, see you there," TJ testified. TJ said MJ was excited that TJ was going to London. TJ said he didn't know if MJ was happy because of tour or for being around his family. "At the dinner, MJ seemed happy," TJ said. "I don't think he would be sad if he was sad," TJ said about MJ during the anniversary dinner. The only time TJ recalled seeing his uncle in 2009 was at the anniversary dinner. (ABC7) Once testimony resumed TJ testified about Katherine and Joe Jackson’s 40th anniversary party. It was the last time he saw his uncle Michael. He said Jackson seemed happy but they didn’t talk about “This Is It” or music or career issues.TJ said he said goodbye to his uncle Michael, who asked if he was headed to London for “This Is It.” TJ said he would see him there. (AP)

Bina asked TJ about MJ's wedding gift to him, which was $30,000 in cash. "He wanted to pay for my wedding, but the wedding passed," TJ said. TJ reluctantly accepted the gift. Bina asked if MJ was in financial difficulties then and couldn't afford the gift. TJ said he didn't know. Bina: Did you ever talk to your uncle about his finances? TJ: No (ABC7)

Bina: Did you consider your uncle to be a private person? TJ: For the most part, yes (ABC7)

Bina: Did you ever see a doctor on Dangerous tour? TJ: No
"I don't remember seeing a doctor in the HIStory tour either," TJ said. (ABC7)

TJ testified he was familiar with Dr. Metzger. He said he had not heard of the drug Propofol before MJ died. "I've heard many rumors about my uncle that were not true," TJ testified. (ABC7)

Bina: You never personally saw substance abuse? TJ: No
TJ said he didn't believe MJ had a substance abuse problem, never saw him take pills.
Bina asked if TJ thought MJ would've told him if he had a drug problem.
"I don't think he would've told me, but I'm not sure. He told me some things, but I don't think so," TJ responded. (ABC7)

"My cousins and I were going to Lakers game, they wanted to go to ESPN zone before the game, and that's when I met Randy Phillips," TJ said. Bina asked if TJ thanked Phillips for getting them tickets. TJ testified he didn't know he got the tickets. But in his deposition, TJ testified he did thank Phillips for the tickets. (ABC7)

Bina asked about MJ's lavish lifestyle. "It's hard to measure myself against my uncle, he was kind of person who loved art, liked collectibles, liked the best of the best" TJ said. But TJ noted MJ wore pajama bottoms, V necks, and Mickey Mouse watches. "Homes I would say yes, he wanted nice homes. Cars yes and no," TJ explained. (ABC7)

TJ said MJ was very important to him, had a lot of influence on him.(ABC7)

Bina: It's hard for you to believe he could've died of drug overdose? TJ: It's hard for me to know that he's dead
Bina: Do you believe your uncle was murdered? TJ: I do
"He (MJ) did tell me and a couple of his brothers he would be murdered because of his position, because he was a target," TJ said.TJ had conversation with MJ about it during mid 90s to mid 2000s. (ABC7)

Stebbins Bina then asked TJ whether he believed his uncle Michael was murdered. “I do,” TJ responded. Michael Jackson told TJ and his brothers a couple times that he thought he would be murdered, he said. He said he didn't believe it at first. “My mother was murdered for money,” TJ said. “I don’t put anything past anyone.” (AP)

"Do you believe your uncle was murdered?" AEG Live attorney Jessica Stebbins Bina asked T.J. Jackson. "I do," he answered. "I believe it because he did tell me and the brothers that he was going to be murdered on a couple of occasions. "He said that just because of his position he was a target." T.J. Jackson had earlier testified that his mother, Delores Jackson, was the victim of murder 19 years ago. "My mother was murdered for money, too, so I don't put that past anyone," he said. (CNN)


Jackson redirect

In re-direct, Boyle said he wanted to talk about the Lakers tickets. Boyle: Did you know at that time that Mr. Phillips had a secret meeting with Dr. Murray? TJ: I didn't know. TJ said they didn't go with Phillips to the Lakers game, he was just there, at the game zone. Boyle: Do you think Jackson's kids should be allowed to go to the Lakers games? TJ: I think they should go anywhere they want. (ABc7)

TJ said he began acting as the children's co-guardian shortly after MJ died. Boyle: Did you do it for four years for free? TJ: It was out of love. TJ said his grandma convinced him to accept payment because he has three kids of his own that are losing a lot of his time. (ABC7)


Taj Jackson testimony

Jackson direct

Deborah Chang did direct examination.Taj, real name Tariano Jackson, II is 39 years old. He is the first grandson. "I was spoiled with love, let's just say that," Taj said. (ABC7)

Taj said he was close to MJ. "My uncle, besides being my musical role model, he was like an older brother to us," Taj explained. "He guided our lives, he was everything," Taj said about MJ. "I feel lost some times because he's not here." "When my mom passed, he stepped in and made sure our whole world didn't crumble," TJ said about MJ. MJ helped us with school, Taj said, paid for his college. He encouraged his nephew do it for his mother, to make her proud. Taj said his mother and father were very much in love, but separated. "They loved each other, I never understood the problem." "My mom really looked up to my uncle, leaned on him a lot," Taj testified. "He loved the way that she raised us." "It was known she put us first," Taj said. Dolores (DD) Jackson was Taj's mom's name. (ABC7)

Taj said he stayed at Neverland many times. "Neverland to me, he (MJ) always let us know, it was to help people," Taj explained. "My uncle didn't eat candy, it was for the sick children he was bringing to Neverland," Taj explained. Taj said MJ would take hundreds of people from Make a Wish foundation. "He wanted to make them better, he felt that he could." Ryan White became poster child for HIV/AIDS Taj said. This was during the time we were all terrified about it; Ryan was kicked out of school."They had a really strong relationship," Taj said, explaining MJ took Ryan to Neverland, went into the pool with him. "It was Disneyland," Taj said about Neverland. "He named the train station after my grandma, Katherine. There's a plaque with her name." After Ryan White died, Taj said MJ dedicated the song "Gone Too Soon" to him. Chang played the video clip of the song. (ABC7)

Taj: Michael taught us that being a musician and having the influence not only to make music but to make a change in the world. "He was constantly trying to help people," Taj said, adding there were lots of things the media didn't know about MJ. (ABC7)

“I was the first Jackson to go to college, he was so proud of that," Taj said. Taj also attended Buckley School, went to Loyola Marymount college, studying Music, Film and TV. He needs to finish the last year of school. Chang: Was he your mentor? Taj: Yes, definitely. Taj said his dad Tito was his mentor at baseball. He coached their little league team. (ABC7)

Taj said he shared three things with MJ: Music, Film and the Three Stooges, which Michael loved. "He bought me my first camera," Taj said. He shot home video of his mother and brothers while she was still alive in 1994. "I keep my most sentimental things in my safe," Taj explained about a note he has from MJ. Note: Taj, I saw these and thought they were perfect for you. Love always, Uncle Doo Doo (ABc7)

Taj said MJ was very close with Lionel Richie. Played snippet video of 3T. Taj co-directed their last video for album brotherhood. Chang played a snippet of it, quite funny video. Some jurors were laughing. Chang: Was your uncle proud of you? Taj: Yes, very proud (ABC7)

Taj said he lived at Neverland for 6 months. He said his grandma was there all the time. (ABC7)

Taj said MJ asked him to help raise the children. Taj said he was just about to begin your with 3T and MJ understood it. Taj became the person in charge of MJ's storage and belongings. (ABC7)

Chang asked Taj who was MJ's mentor: "Definitely my grandma, he would tell me that, you could see it, I sensed that," Taj responded. "My mom was my mentor and my mom's mentor was my grandma," Taj said. "They all shared the purity in their heart," Taj explained."My grandma was my uncle's compass in life," Taj said. "He was constantly trying to make her proud of him." (ABC7)

Taj said having children was something they encouraged MJ, since they thought he was going to be a great father. "It lit him up, that's what he lived for, his kids and my grandma," Taj said. (ABC7)

When MJ died, Taj said they stepped in right away."I think it's more difficult because my uncle to them was both father and mother, he was everything for them," Taj said. "When you lose a parent, your life is never the same again," Taj expressed. He said it hurts specially during milestones moments in his life. "I just got married," Taj said, crying. "And my mom wasn't there." Taj told the jury they chose to marry at Hayvenhurst because it was the place his mom and his uncle would be. Taj got married on June 16. He said he had a vase with a candle in it lit for his mother. Taj said he and his brothers wrote the song "Everything" at Hayvenhurst. Judge breaks for afternoon session. Katherine wipes her eyes. (ABC7)

Taj Jackson is 39, is TJ’s older brother and a member of 3T. “I feel lost because he’s not here,” Taj Jackson of his uncle Michael. He added, “When my mom passed, he stepped in and just made sure that our whole world didn't crumble.” He broke down when he described the impact of losing a parent. He cited them being gone for major milestones. Taj cited his wedding last weekend. He held it at the Jackson family’s Hayvenhurst home in Encino. Taj said he wanted to have it in a “place where both my uncle and my mom would be.” (AP)

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Attorneys and the judge discussed extensively about things that one side wants to show the jury but the other side doesn't. Judge adjourned session early for the jury. They are ordered back tomorrow morning at 10 am PT. (ABC7)

Shortly after this, there was an afternoon break and they held a sidebar hearing over notes that Taj was going to testify about. One of the notes was from Paris to her father, expressing happiness that she got a hug. The judge ruled it couldn’t be shown to jury.
Another note that Jackson wrote about something Blanket said at age 6 will be shown to jury, but with his age will be redacted. Plaintiff’s attorneys argued that the notes were “classic wrongful death evidence” and should be allowed in. The Jackson vs AEG Live trial ended for the day on arguments about whether Phil Anschutz could be ordered to come testify. Judge denied it. (AP)

"Paris is not going to be testifying," lawyer Deborah Chang told Los Angeles Superior Court Judge Yvette Palazuelos while the jury was out of the courtroom. "We have a little girl in so much pain right now, she cannot come," Chang said. Chang confirmed Paris won't take the witness stand as she argued to admit a handwritten note the King of Pop's daughter purportedly wrote to her dad in the months before his death. "Dead Daddy, I love you so much & I'm so glad I got a goodnight hug," the note reads. "Sleep well. I love you & good night. I'll see you tomorrow! XOX Goodnight. Lots of love, Paris Jackson". Chang argued that the pencil-written note depicts how Paris "felt about her father" and the great love they shared. A lawyer for AEG objected that it was hearsay, and the judge agreed. The note was not admitted as evidence. (NYDailyNews)

Karen Faye will resume her testimony tomorrow from a few weeks back. (ABC7)

Zusammenfassung von Ivy, MJJC #41

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Zusammenfassungen der vorangegangenen gerichtstage:
Day 1 - anträge u. eröffnungsstatements
Day 2 - anhörung und zeugen Senneff u. Martinez
Day 3 - forts. zeuge Martinez u. anhörung
Day 4 - forts. zeuge Martinez
Day 5 - zeugen Anderson und Rogers
Day 6 - zeuge Dr. Wohlgelernter
Day 7 - zeugin Sankey
Day 8 - zeugin Faye
Day 9 - forts. zeugin Faye
Day 10 - zeugen Walker, Rogers, Payne
Day 11 - forts. zeuge Payne
Day 12 - zeugin Hollander
Day 13 - M. Hom videodeposition, forts. zeugin Hollander
Day 14 - forts. zeugin Hollander; zeuge Trell
Day 14 fortsetzung - forts. zeuge Trell
Day 16 - forts. zeuge Trell
Day 17 - forts. zeuge Trell
Day 18 - zeuge Gongaware
Day 19 - forts. zeuge Gongaware
Day 20 - forts. zeuge Gongaware
Day 21 - forts. zeuge Gongaware
Day 22 - forts. zeuge Gongaware
Day 23 - forts. zeuge Gongaware; zeuge R. Phillips
Day 24 - forts. zeuge Phillips
Day 25 - forts. zeuge Phillips
Day 26 - forts. zeuge Phillips
Day 27 - forts. zeuge Phillips
Day 28 - forts. zeuge Phillips
Day 29 - forts. zeuge Phillips
Day 30 - forts. zeuge Phillips
Day 31 - zeuge Berman
Day 32 - zeugin Chase
Day 33 - forts. zeugin Chase; videodeposition Dr. Earley
Day 34 - zeuge Dr. Czeisler
Day 35 - forts. zeuge Dr. Czeisler
Day 36 - forts. Dr. Earley video depo
Day 37 - Dr. Matheson
Day 38 - zeuge Michael Jackson Jr.


Exklusiv transcripts eröffnungsstatements u.a. (MJJC #1 ff.)
Zeugenaussage von Prince Michael Jackson Jr.; exklusiv transcripts von MJJC # 7

[Lena]

Iiiiinteressaaaant, was sie zu der Frage sagt

Ich glaube die Menschen im Gericht fanden es nicht so intressant. Wird mehrmals erwähnt wie trocken das Ganze war, einige der Juroren schlossen die Augen und ein paar Zuschauer schliefen ein.

Und natürlich sagt der Experte, dass AEG die Mindestandarts fürs Personlchecking unterließ und zumindest die Kreditwürdigkeit hätte checken müssen. Er machte alle Aussagen unter der Annahme, dass AEG und nicht MJ den Arzt einstellt. Richter erinnerte die Jury, dass sie entscheiden werden wer Murray einstellte. Zum Schluss gab es noch eine heftige Auseinandersetzung über eine geseztlichen? Regelungstext den AEG zeigte und der besagt, dass das Checken von Arbeitgebern über die Kreditwürdikgeit zur Diskremierung von Arbeitgebern führt und daher zu unterlassen ist. Panish will dass Richterin Jury belehrt, dass der Text nicht zur Kenntnis genommen werden darf. Richterin scheint sich darüber aber nicht schlüssig. Die Entscheidung ob der Text zugelassen wird ist vertagt. Das hier sind nur die letzten Tweets. Alle kann man im Link nachlesen. Morgen wird er nochmals im Stand sein. Morgen ist zudem Dr. Schnoll im Zeugenstand der zu MJs Medikamentenabhänigkeit aussagen wird. Am Mittwoch dann Taj Jackson. Donnerstag und Feitag Ferien, kein Gericht.

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The plan is to have Taj Jackson back on Wednesday. There's no trial on Thursday and Friday due to the holiday.
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End: and they are even admitted if one party wishes to lead evidence to the contrary.
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Cont'd: Facts & materials admitted under judicial notice are accepted without being formally introduced by witness or other rule of evidence
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Doc ends: information is essential to the particular job in question.
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Bina showed an Equal Employment Opportunity Commission (EEOC) policy on credit check, saying it is a discriminatory practice.
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Bina asked if all the opinions Seawright offered are based on the assumption that AEG, not MJ, hired Dr. Murray. She said yes.

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Iiiiinteressaaaant, was sie zu der Frage sagt

[Lena]

Erster Zeuge der Jackson-Anwälte heute ein Personalexperte. Seawright hat ihre eigene Firma in Californien und arbeitet für unterschiedliche Klienten. Sie hat bereits in 16 Fällen ausgesagt, darunter einer wo ein Arbeitgeber seinen Angestellten tötete. Seawright erhält 300 Dollar die Stunde für das Zeugnis und hat bereits 100 Stunden in den Fall investiert. Panish beginnt mit einer hypothet. Frage. Sie solle sich vorstellen AEG stellte Murray auf MJs Wunsch ein. Hätte dann AEG die Richtlinien einer guten Anstellung befolgt. Expertin verneint, da Murray einen Hochsicherheitsjob annahm. Nur die Prüfung der Nicht-Vorstrafen sei nicht genug. Social Security-Nummer sei zu überprüfen, die Kriminal, Kredit und Fahrhistorie.



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In forming her opinion, Seawright said she relied on the testimony of Dr. Matheson and other witnesses during the trial.
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Panish questioned whether the absence of a criminal record would be enough of a check. Seawright said no.
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She would have also recommended a verification of Murray’s Social Security information.
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The factors included Murray working in Jackson’s home, having access to confidential info and the singer’s family and giving medical care.
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She said she would have considered Murray performing a high-risk job due to several factors.
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Panish asked whether Seawright believed AEG followed adequate hiring practices. She said the company didn’t follow good hiring practices.
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Doing background checks is relatively inexpensive, Seawright said. A Social Security number check might cost $5, criminal check up to $30.
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Seawright said she doesn’t advise different procedures for checking the background of an employee vs an independent contractor.
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The worker had a previous murder conviction, but no background check had been done, Seawright said.
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She has testified in around 16 court cases, including one in which an employee killed a supervisor.
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Seawright has her own HR-consulting company based in Florida, but has clients in different parts of the case.
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We’re on a break in Jackson vs. AEG Live. First witness today is a human resources expert, Jean Seawright.r