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Hier ist jezt eine ausführliche Wiedergabe der Aussage von Prince mit wörtlicher Wiedergabe eingestellt aus den Gerichtsunterlagen. Darin auch ersichtlich das Panish sitpulierte das AEG Prince nicht unangemessen in seiner Deposition befragte. Wenn Ihr Euch erinnert, die Jackson-Anwälte behaupteten dies nach Prince Depostion ebenso wie TJ Jackson in einer gerichtl. Motion. Daraufhin stellte TJ den Antrag, dass Paris Depostion unbedingt an einem öffentlichen Ort stattfinden muss. Prince wird hierzu auch von Putnam befragt und anschließend auch noch von Panish. Der letzte Austausch von Prince mit Panish darüber ist für mich eindeutig einstudiert um das Ganze etwas ins Lächerliche zu ziehen.
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Attorneys and judge went into sidebar. Then Faye was excused, subject to recall.
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Faye said on June 18 Michael was almost catatonic, stoic, appeared scared to die.
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Faye said she discussed with mortician MJ's body weight. Panish asked if he looked worse than on June 19. Faye responded: "He was dead, sir"
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"I was quite sure he was deteriorating, sir" Faye said. "I had no idea what was going on, but there was something very, very wrong."
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Putnam questioned Faye for 5 days in deposition related to Lloyds of London lawsuit. There were no lawyer representing the Jacksons.
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Faye said MJ was scared, paranoid, pressure on the last two weeks of his life.
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MJ went to rehearsal on June 18 but arrived late, Faye said. Ortega was very angry Michael was late to rehearsal.
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Panish asked if someone has died after getting make-up. "I never even burned someone with a hot iron, sir," Faye responded.
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Panish: Did you take the Hippocratic oath when you became a make-up artist?
Faye: No, sir
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Panish: Were you being paid $150,000 a month?
Faye: No
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"He was burned a long time ago, had damage to his scalp," Faye said about MJ needing wig. "He had 1st, 2nd and 3rd degree burn."
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Panish: Who did you negotiate your contract with?
Faye: AEG Live
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Faye agreed with Bugzee that MJ was deteriorating in front of everyone eyes.
"He was not in good physical shape on June 19," Faye said.
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Panish: Did you think that MJ needed some medical assistance that time?
Faye: Absolutely
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Panish: Were you seeing Michael not able to sing and dance on June 16?
Faye: Yes, sir
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Phillips responded:
We control all the footage and it is locked at the vault at staples center
Phillips antwortet:
Wir kontrollieren das ganze Material und es ist in einem Tresor im Staples Center
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In an email on July 1, 2009, Faye expressed concern to Randy Phillips about footage of MJ shuffling and wrapping around in blankets
In einem E-Mail am 1. Juli 2009 schreibt Faye ihre Besorgnis an Randy Phillips über Material von MJ das ihn eingewickelt in Decken zeigt
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Email cont'd: Michael's OCD is getting worse. He repeats his actions and rambles words constantly.
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Faye's email to DiLeo:
Michael is painfully thin... His bones are protruding. I'm one person that has physical contact ith him very day.
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Putnam asked about her saying it was between the two alone, and she said her intention was for someone to help Michael.
Putnam fragt, sie schrieb es sie zwischen ihnen beiden alleine, und sie sagte ihre Intention war jemand zu beommen um Michael zu helfen
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No response from Frank DiLeo or anybody else, Faye said.
Keine Antwort von Dileo oder jemand anders sagt Faye
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Faye said she was trying to get their attention to do something. "I was desperate. I wanted a therapist for Michael."
Faye sagt sie versuche Aufmerksamkeit zu bekommen.Ich war verzweifelt, ich wollte einen Therapeuten für Michael
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"This is between you and me alone," Faye wrote in the email to DiLeo. "I am leaving this in your hands as you have instructed me to do."
"Das ist zwsichen Dir und mir allein, Schrieb Faye an Dielio. "Ich lasse es in Deinen Händen, so wie Du mich angewiesen hast.
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"I don't think you, Kenny or Randy deserve becoming the villains, or the financial victims," Faye wrote.
"Ich glaube nicht, dass Du Kenny oder Randy verdienen die Schurken und finanz. Ofper zu werden, schrieb Faye
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"He hurts himself most of all," Faye wrote. Putnam asked what she meant by that and Faye said "He's dead!"
"Er verletzt sich selbst am meisten, schrieb Faye. Putnam fragt was sie meinte, Faye. "Er ist tot."
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Faye said she thought there was some sort of fear with MJ.
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"I thought the best pathway, he needed some psychological help," Faye explained. "I'm trying to figure out what is going on."
"Ich dachte das beste ist er braucht pyscholg. Hilfe, erklärt Faye: Ich versuchte herauzufinden was vor sich geht
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"It seems like he is setting himself up to be the victim," Faye wrote in the email to DiLeo.
"Es scheint er macht sie selbst zum Opfer", sagte Faye im Mail an Dileo
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"I felt desperate when I wrote this email, because I felt I wasn't being heard or acknowledged," Faye said.
"Ich fühlte mich verzweiflet als ich die Mail schrieb, weil dachte das ich nicht zur Kenntnis genommen wurde.
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Faye added:
When he asked me to do this in May and met with him. I saw a slender but strong and coherent Michael Jackson.
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Another fan email forwarded on June 22 from Faye to DiLeo saying MJ was too thin.
[B]Eine weitere E-Mail am 22. Juni von Faye an Dileo, sagend MJ sei zu dünn. "Als er mich fragte dies zu machen und ich ihn im May traf sah ich einen schlanken aber starken und zuversichtlichen Michael Jackson. Es scheint das er sich selbst als Opfer darstellt..........
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Email cont'd: I'm fearful he I'll make himself so sick be will die. If he doesn't do this show he has no where else to go...
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Faye wrote in the email: Frank... Unfortunate she's right.
Faye schreibt im Mail. Frank ...Unglücklicherweis hat sie Recht. Ich fürchte er macht sich selbst so krank, dass er sterben wird. Wenn er diese Show nicht macht hat er nichts mehr wo er hingehen kann..
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Email Faye sent to Frank DiLeo was a note from a fan concerned with MJ's weight on June 20, 2009.
E-Mail Faye sendet eine Nachricht eines Fans mit Besorgnis über MJs Gewicht am 20. Juni 2009 an Dileo
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Putnam: Did you think MJ was self-sabotaging?
Putnam: Denken Sie MJ sabbotierte sich selbst?
Faye: I didn't understand what was going on
Faye: Ich verstand nicht was vor sich ging
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Faye said MJ talked about the tour seemed he was trying to convince himself to do it. "It was always like he was talking himself into it."
Faye sagt MJ versuchte sich selbst zu überzeugen, dass er die Tour machen kann. "Es war wenn er selbst zu sich sprach darüber"
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Faye testified earlier in the case that MJ didn't take no for answer. She said it had to do specifically with her work.
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Faye said the first time she heard about Propofol was after MJ died. She was surprised about it.
Sie hörte erstmals über Propofol nach seinem Tod. Sie war überracht darüber
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Faye said MJ believed in doctors and that wherever they prescribed he thought it was ok.
Faye sagt Mj glaube in Ärzte und was immer sie verschreiben hält er für in Orndung
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Putnam asked if Faye and MJ knew each other well. Faye said he thought so.
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Faye did not express any of her concerns to MJ's family remembers.
Faye sagte nichst über ihre Besorgnis gegenüber MJs Familienmitgliedern.
Putnam: That last week, you didn't know what was going on?
Putnam: Die letzte Woche, sie wustten nicht was vor sich ging?
Faye: Right
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"He would pretend everything was ok" Faye said. But she never asked MJ if he was ok since she thought he wasn't in the state of mind for it
"Er gab vor alles ist ok", sagt Faye. Aber sie fragte ihn nie ob alles ok ist, weil sie dachte er ist nicht im Zustand dafür.
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"I was voicing my opinions and what I thought and I wasn't getting too much response, sir," Faye said.
"Ich gab meine Meinung ab und ich dachte ich bekam nicht viel Antworten, sagt Faye
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Faye said she was a bit upset that no one seemed to have been listening to her back in June 2009.
Faye sagt sie war etwas sauer, dass niemand ihr zuzuhören schien im Juni 2009
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"Because Michael had lost so much weight and he kept losing weight. 136 lbs was a lot for MJ," Faye explained.
"Weil Michael so viel Gewicht verloren hat und weiter verlor. 136 Pfund war viel für MJ, sagt Faye
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Putnam: Did you think it was impossible for him to weigh that much?
Putnam: Halten Sie es für unmöglich, dass er so viel wog?
Faye: Yes
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Putnam asked Faye about the fact that Coroner's report saying MJ was 136 lbs at the time of his death.
Putnam fragt Faye über den Autopsiereport und das er 136 Pfund wog zum Todeszeitpunkt.
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Faye said people who didn't know MJ very well would probably not realize he lost lots of weight because of the several layers of clothes.
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Faye said that in Mar/Apr she told Michael she was concerned with his weight. She never talked to him about it during last weeks of his life
Faye sagt das sie im Märzt/April ihm sagte sie besorgt über sein Gewicht. Sie sprach nie darüber mit ihm in den letzten Wochen des Lebens
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"Michael wasn't very coherent that week to have a discussion like that," Faye said.
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Putnam: Were you observing Mr. Jackson becoming thinner and thinner?
Faye: Yes
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Putnam: Did you say he lost 10-15 lbs the last week of his life?
Faye: It was an estimate, yes
Putnam: Sagten Sie er verlore 10 bis 15 Pfund in der letzten Woche des Lebens?
Faye: Es war eine Schätzung, ja
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"Lisa Marie Presley and I became friends and she told me MJ liked to be at 120 pounds," Faye said.
"Lisa Marie Presley und ich wurden Freunde und sie sagte mir, dass MJ ihr sagte, er liebe es 120 Pund zu haben, sagte Faye
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Putnam: Did you ever testify his work weight was 120 pounds?
Faye: Lisa Marie Presley have me that information
Putnam: Sagten Sie jemals aus, dass sein Arbeitsgewicht 120 Pfund war?
Faye: LMP gab mir die Info.
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"I wasn't concerned for his weight for everyday life, but I was concert for his performance weight," Faye explained.
"Ich war nicht über sein Gewicht besorgt für das tägliche Leben, aber ich war über sein Performance Gewicht besorgt, sagt Faye
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"He was still cold, but his spirt was better, sir," Faye said.
"Ihm war immer noch kalt, aber sein Geist war besser," sagt Faye
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Faye said there was hope, though."I saw more of Michael, he was laughing, I saw him participating, yes, there was some relief."
Faye sagt, da war Hoffnung. "Ich sah Michael mehr lachen, ich sah ihn teilnehmen, ja, es war Erleichterung.
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Putnam: So you didn't think he could be ready after watching those rehearsals?
Putnam: So sie dachten MJ war nicht bereit nach diesen Proben?
Faye: No
"It was a very strenuous show," Faye said.
"Es war eine sehr anstrengende Show", sagt Faye.
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Faye explained MJ didn't gain any weight, there were changes that needed to be done to get him ready, perhaps if they could delay it a bit.
Faye erklärte das MJ kein Gewicht gemacht hat, Änderungen die gemacht werden müssten um ihn bereit zu bekommen, vielleicht wenn sie es etwas verschieben.
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Putnam: You didn't think he was ready to go?
Faye: Oh no
Putnam: Sie dachten nicht das er bereits war (die Shows zu machen)?
Faye: Oh Nein
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Putnam asked if Faye thought MJ would be ready to tour after those rehearsals. She responded "oh no, oh no!"
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Putnam: How about the 24th?
Faye: It was improved
Putnam. Was ist mit dem 24?
Faye: Sie war verbessert.
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Putnam: Did you think MJ had a good rehearsal on June 23?
Faye: It was much improved, sir
Putnam: Dachten Sie das MJ eine gute Probe am 23. Juni hatte ?
Faye: Sie war stark verbessert, Sir
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Faye said she didn't remember what she said to MJ, it was probably how are you doing, probably addressed him very casually.
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On June 23, Faye said there were lots of meetings at Staples Center with MJ. She was alone with MJ at some point in the day.
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Faye said she didn't have an opportunity to talk to anybody on June 22 about MJ and she didn't want to ask the children.
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Faye said Alvarez didn't want to stay on the phone, had to go and hung up.
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I made a phone call to security Alberto Alvarez on Saturday and asked him to watch MJ very closely that I was concerned," Faye testified.
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"I was very concerned during this period of time, I was very, very frightened," Faye explained. She said she had horrible thoughts.
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June 23 was the first time they were at Staples Center.
Faye said she was extremely concerned with MJ's health on June 19th.
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On June 22, Faye went over to MJ's house to replace MJ's wig. She waited couple of hours and was told to leave, MJ didn't want to do it.
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Faye said she wasn't around Phillips a lot, so she didn't recall Phillips telling anyone to get MJ on stage to rehearse.
Faye sagte sie war nicht viel um Pfhillips so sie kann sich nicht erinnern, dass Phillips irgend jemand sagte MJ auf die Bühen zum Proben zu bringen
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Faye: He told me he wanted to build a wall around Michael so he doesn't want to do anything but get to rehearsal
Faye: Er sagte mir ein wolle eine Wand um Michael so das er nichts machen wolle außer Proben
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Putnam: Did you ever observe Randy Phillips tell anyone to get MJ on stage to rehearse?
Putnam: Haben sie jemals beobachtet das R. Phillips jemanden gesagt hat MJ auf die Bühne zu bringen um zu proben?
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Putnam: Did Paul Gongaware ever personally instruct you to never listen to MJ?
Putnam: Hat PG Sie jemals angewiesen nicht auf MJ zu hören?
Faye: No
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Putnam: Did Randy Phillips ever personally instruct you to never listen no MJ?
Putnam: Hat R. Phillips Sie jemals instruiert nicht auf MJ zu hören?
Faye: No
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Putnam: Did Paul Gongaware ever pressure you to get MJ on stage?
Putnam: Hat PG Sie jemals gedrängt MJ auf die Bühen zu bekommen?
Faye: No
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Putnam: Did Randy Phillips ever pressure you to get MJ on stage?
Putnam: Hat R. Phillips Sie jemals gedrängt MJ auf die BÜhne zu bekommen?
Faye: No
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Faye said she saw MJ down to t-shirt several times, since she had to wire MJ, put wires and battery packs on him.
Sie sah in mehrmals in T-shirts
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Regarding the fitting day, where MJ wore t-shirt and shoulder piece, Faye said she was there but didn't see him when they did the fitting.
Bezgül. der Kostümprobe als MJ Schulterteile und T-shirt trug, sagt Faye sie war da, sah aber nicht die Anprobe
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Faye said she can't recall ever having a conversation with Ortega about Dr. Klein.
Faye sagt sie kann sich nicht erinnern jemals eine Unterhaltung mit Ortega über Klein gehabt zu haben.
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"I didn't know Conrad Murray at that particular point other than expressed the concern of what I think Michael needed," Faye said.
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Putnam: Did you express to KO any concern you had about Dr. Conrad Murray?
Putnam: Haben Sie KO gesagt welche Besorgnis sie über Dr. Murray haben?
Faye: Yes, that he wasn't a psychologist
Faye: Ja das er kein Psychologe ist
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Faye said she had a conversation with Kenny Ortega about Dr. Murray. She never asked about Dr. Klein.
Faye sagte sie hatte eine Unterhaltung mit Ortega über Murray. Sie fragte nie nach Klein
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She was concerned about Dr. Klein and aware of Dr. Murray in the week prior to MJ's death.
Sie war besorgt über Klein und wusste über Dr. Murray die Woche vor seinem Tod.
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"I was really getting worried about Michael's psychological state," Faye said.
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Faye said she expressed that concern to Frank DiLeo, MJ's manager at the time.
Faye never spoke with MJ about it.
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That concerned her, Faye said. "Because of the past, when I'd see doctors get involved in Michael's life," Faye explained.
Das besorgte sie, sagt Faye. "Wegen der Vergangenheit, als ich sah wenn Ärzte in seinem Leben involviert sind, sagt Faye.
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Faye said they said Jackson's security confirmed MJ was seeing Dr. Klein maybe 3-4 days a week.
Faye sagte die Securtiy bestätigte ihr, er sah Klein 3 bis 4mal die Woche
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"Because in the media, there were reports that he had gone to Dr. Klein," Faye explained. "What I asked is how often he went there."
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"I was kind on the lookout for doctors getting involved," Faye explained.
"Es war eine Art Ausschau halten über die Ärzte, die invovliert sind." sagt Faye
Putnam asked why Faye inquired specifically about Dr. Klein.
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"I asked Michael's security if he was going to see Dr. Klein," Faye testified.
"Ich frage MJ`s Security ob er Klein sieht, sagte Faye
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"It wasn't the MJ at 29, but he did Billie Jean and it was MJ, everyone was really excited about that," Faye said about rehearsals in June.
"Es war nicht der MJ am 29?, aber er machte Billie Jean und es war MJ, jeder war wirklich aufgeregt darüber, sagt Faye über die Proben im Juni
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Faye said she was so concerned she brought an old time MJ's cook who had a restaurant nearby to bring him food.
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"It's thinness was still bothering me," Faye testified. "He wasn't gaining anything, that was a concern."
"Die Dünnheit ärgerte mich, sagt Faye. Er wollte nichts, das war eine Besorgnis.
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"I noticed some physical things that were odd," Fayed recalled.
"Ich dachte einige phys. Dinge sind seltsam, sagt Faye
Faye said rehearsal was really, really dried and that kind of bothered her
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"In compared to how I used to know him, it was little different, I can't say it was exactly how it used to be," Fay said.
"Ich verglich es mit dem wie ich ihn kannte, es war etwas verschieden, ich kann nicht sagen es war so wie es sein sollte, sagt Faye
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Faye doesn't recall how many times a week she saw MJ from March to June.
Faye kann sich nicht erinnern wie oft in der Woche sie MJ von März bis Juni sah
In the first period of rehearsals, Faye said he seemed ok.
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Faye said she worked in a bedroom downstairs at the Carolwood house, never went to the second floor bedrooms.
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"I was researching all the adhesives available, trying to figure out ways to have my job be successful," Faye said.
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Putnam asked Faye what she did in April and May 2009 to prepare for the tour. She said she attended productions meetings at Center Staging
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Putnam asked if AEG did financial check on her if they'd find problems. Plaintiffs objected, asserting witness's privacy. Judge sustained it
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Faye said she saw information about the trial on the news and internet.
She worked with MJ for 27 years.
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"No, there was no background check done on me," Faye said, explaining she knows the background check is one of the issued of the trial.
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Putnam: Did they do a background check on you?
Faye laughed out loud and said, you're so funny. I don't think so
Putnam: Machten Sie einen Background-Check mit Ihnen?
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Putnam: Did you work for Michael Jackson?
Faye: He requested me, sir, he called me and asked me
Putnam: Arbeiteten Sie für Michael Jackson?
Faye: Er fragte mich an, Sir, er rief mich an und fragte mich
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"Ortega demanded Michael to take off sunglasses, they gave me orders sir, but not pertaining to make-up and hair," Faye said.
Ortega wollte das Michael die Sonnenbrille runternimmt, sie gaben mir Anweisung, aber nicht bezgül. Make-up oder Haare."
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"I think I was giving her something to take care of all my business and pay bills, but can't recall the amount," Faye said.
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Faye said one of MJ assistants would some times give her skin creams to give to MJ.
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The Propecia rejuvenated hair on men's scalp, Faye said, and she needed as much healthy hair as possible.
Propecia erneuert die Haare, sagt Faye und sie brauchte so viele gesunde Haare wie möglich.
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Faye said Latisse and Propecia prescriptions for Michael were under her name.
Faye sagt Latisse und Propecia-Rezepte waren unter ihrem Namen für Michael.
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Botox inhibits sweating, so Faye thought MJ could have Botox injection on his scalp and he wouldn't sweat, the wig would stay on.
Botox verhindert das Schwitzen, so dachte Faye MJ könnte Botox-Injektionen auf der Kopfhaut haut haben und er würde nicht schwitzen und die Perrücke würde halten", sagt Faye
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"It meant Michael didn't want anybody to know he wore a wig," Faye said.
Faye requested the wig receipt be as discreet ad possible.
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Faye said she needed probably 5 wigs, each costing $3,500. She said it was a long process to get one ready, needed reserves for emergency.
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Faye said MJ liked privacy.
"When you do somebody's hair there's a lot of things involved and he didn't want people to see it," Faye said.
"Wenn man jemanden die Haare macht gibt es eine Menge Dinge die beteiligt sind und er wollte nicht, dass die Leute es sehen," sagte Faye.
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"I don't know where they were going to put me," she explained. "I wanted to make sure they could get to me if they needed."
"Ich weiß nicht, wo sie mich hinsteckten", erklärte sie. "Ich wollte sichergehen, dass sie mich holen wenn siemich benötigen."
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Faye said she needed to be able to get to MJ, so she asked in the contract to be close to him.
Faye sagte sie musste in der Lage sein zu MJ zu kommen, so sie fragte im Vertrag danach ihm nahe zu sein.
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"The process of his hair took a long time," Faye said.
Der Prozess der Haare brauchte eine lange Zeig, sagt Faye.
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Faye: I worked for This Is It and the production of the tour
Faye: Ich arbeitete für This Is It und die Produktion der Tour
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Putnam: Did you have an understating as to whether or not you were an employee of AEG Live?
Putnam: Haben Sie ein Verständnis ob Sie ein Mitarbeiter von AEG Live-waren?
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Putnam said the contract with between the company of her Tania's company, not Faye.
Putnam, sagte der Vertrag zwischen dem Unternehmen mit der Tania-Firma, nicht Fayes.
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Faye said a lot of her information came through Tania and their concerns. Tania took care of Faye's businesses affairs.
Faye sagte eine Menge ihrer Informationen kamen durch Tania und ihre Anliegen. Tania kümmerte sich um Fayes Unternehmens- Angelegenheiten.
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"They were going to throw him in jail if he didn't get there on time," Faye said.
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"The judge was informing MJ he had to go to court or he would be sent to jail" Faye said. So he went to court in pajamas, couldn't get ready
"Der Richter informierte, MJ hatte vor Gericht zu gehen, sonst würde er ins Gefängnis geschickt werden" sagte Faye. Also ging er zum Gericht im Schlafanzug, konnte sich nicht mehr bereit machen
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That day, Michael went to the hospital because something happened to his back and they gave him some pain killers, Faye testified.
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Faye explained the day during the criminal trial MJ went to court wearing pajamas one day.
Faye erklärte der Tag während des Strafprozesses als MJ vor Gericht ging mit einen Pyjama
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"I just noticed that Michael started having a lot of back pain" Faye said. "With the symptoms of losing a lot of weight, and the pajama day"
An diesem Tag, als Michael ins Krankenhaus ging, weil etwas passiert war mit seinem Rücken gaben sie ihm einige Schmerzmittel, sagte Faye.
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"Michael seemed to have more difficult time when Grace was brought back to Neverland," Faye said, referring to the time of criminal trial.
"Michael schien eine schwierigere Zeit gehabt zu haben als Grace wieder nach Neverland gebracht wurde", sagte Faye, bezogen auf die Zeit des Strafprozesses.
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"As her responsibilities grew, she kind of stood in the way, it seems she always tried to keep me away from Michael," Faye said about Grace.
"Als ihre Verantwortlichkeiten wuchsen, stand sie auf eine Art im Wege, es scheint mir sie hat immer versucht, mich fernzuhalten von Michael", sagte Faye über Grace.
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"I really, really loved Grace when I first met her," Faye said. "I adored her, I was really happy Michael used her as the nanny."
"Ich habe Grace wirklich geliebt wenn ich ihr zum ersten Mal begegnet bin" sagte Faye. "Ich liebte sie, ich war wirklich glücklich das Michael sie als Kindermädchen hat."
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She testified she needed to get some funds to start working on MJ's wigs and was told to speak with Dr. Tohme.
Sie bezeugte sie brauchte einige Fonds zu Beginn der Arbeit um an MJ-Perücken zu arbeiten und mir wurde gesagt, mit Dr. Tohme sprechen.
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Faye said she worked with a wig maker and they both went to Carolwood to see MJ. "Sir, we needed to prepare for the show, sir."
Faye sagte sie arbeitete mit einem Perückenmacher und beide gingen zu Carolwood um MJ zu sehen. "Sir, mussten es für die Show vorbereiten, Sir."
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Faye: I just wanted him to make sure he knew the schedule and if he was comfortable with it
Faye: Ich wollte sicherstellen, dass er wusste, dass den Zeitplan kennt und das er zufrieden mit ihm ist
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"By the conversation I had with him, he didn't seem to know the structure, only that it was 50 days," Faye said about MJ.
"Durch das Gespräch, das ich mit ihm hatte, er schien nicht zu wissen, die Struktur, nur, dass es 50 Tage waren," sagte Faye über MJ.
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"That's funny, my mother said the same thing," Faye said MJ told her.
"Das ist lustig, meine Mutter sagte das Gleiche." sagte Faye MJ sagte ihr
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"I think he didn't know how the schedule was, he should go a look at the schedule and how he feels about it," Faye explained.
"Ich glaube, er kannte den Zeitplan nicht, sollte er einen Blick auf den Zeitplan nehmen und wie er sich fühlt darüber", erklärt Faye.Zuletzt geändert von Lena; 29.06.2013, 10:08.
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Faye: “I wanted it to be as private for him as possible.”
Faye: "Ich wollte, dass es für ihn so privat wie möglich ist."
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She was also asked about contract terms that called for her to submit itemized receipts for expenses only if Jackson approved it.
Sie wurde auch über die Vertragsbedingungen befragt, die ihr auftrugen detaillierte Belege für Ausgaben vorzulegen, die von Jackson genehmigt werden mussten.
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She was asked about the wigs she bought for Jackson, which she said were ventilated. She said she needed 5 wigs for the London shows.
Sie wurde über die Perücken befragt, die sie für Jackson kaufte, worüber sie sagte sie wurden belüftet gekauft. Sie sagte, sie brauchte 5 Perücken für die Shows in London.
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Faye was then asked about her contract with AEG to work with Jackson on “This Is It.” She said she wasn't paid until contract was signed.
Faye wurde dann über ihren Vertrag mit AEG gefragt um auf Jacksons "This Is It"-Tour zu arbeiten. Sie sagte, sie sei nicht gezahlt wurden bis der Vertrag unterzeichnet wurde.
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She said she thought Jackson was better off when Grace wasn’t living at Neverland Ranch during the trial.
Sie sagte, sie dachte Jackson ging es besser als Grace nicht auf der Neverland Ranch während des Prozesses lebte.
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Faye was then asked about the Jackson family maid, Grace Rwaramba and her role during the molestation trial.
Faye wurde dann über das Jackson-Kindermädchen Grace Rwaramba und ihre Rolle während des Kindesmissbrauchsprozesses gefragt
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Faye said they were Kenny’s words and not hers. She said she didn’t recall saying the schedule was dangerous.
Faye sagte, es seien Kennys Worte und nicht ihre. Sie sagte, sie könne sich nicht erinnern, dass sie sagte der Zeitplan sei gefährlich.
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Putnam showed her an email Ortega sent to AEG exec Paul Gongaware saying Faye raised concerns about the schedule.
Putnam zeigte ihr eine E-Mail, die Ortega an AEG exec Paul Gongaware gesendet hat und besagt das Faye Bedenken über den Zeitplan hat.
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Faye said she didn’t characterize it that way. “I said it wasn’t the best schedule for Michael to be successful,” she said.
Faye sagte, sie charakterisierte es so nicht. "Ich sagte, es sei nicht der beste Zeitplan für Michael um erfolgreich zu sein", sagte sie.
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She added that she thought Jackson needed more time to recuperate. Putnam asked whether she called schedule dangerous.
Sie fügte hinzu, dass sie dachte, Jackson brauchte mehr Zeit sich zu erholen. Putnam fragte, ob sie die Terminierung für gefährlich hielt.
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“I didn't say definitively that it was going to be a problem,” Faye said. “I said this was something we should look at.”
"Ich habe nicht definitiv gesagt das es ein Problem werden könne," sagte Faye. "Ich sagte, dies sei etwas, was man übersehen solle"
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Faye said she was concerned about how close together the “This Is It” shows were and she reached out to Kenny Ortega, the tour director.
Faye sagte sie war darüber besorgt, wie nahe die "This Is It" -Shows waren und sie streckte die Hand aus um Kenny Ortega, den Tour-Direktor zu erreichen
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Faye recalled Jackson telling her, “’ It started out as 10 shows and then I woke up and it was 50.’”
Faye erinnert sich das Jackson ihr sagte, "'Es begann mit 10 Shows und dann bin ich aufgewacht und es waren 50'."
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Faye was asked about her conversation with Jackson about the “This Is It” shows. She says the singer seemed surprised about the 50 shows.
Faye wurde über ihr Gespräch mit Jackson über die "This Is It-Shows" gefragt. Sie sagt der Sänger schien überrascht über die 50 Shows.Zuletzt geändert von Lena; 28.06.2013, 23:10.
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Putnam asked whether she found the proceedings funny. “I don’t think the case is funny at all sir,” Faye responded. - Putnam fragt ob sie das Geschehen lustig findet. Ich denke nicht das der Fall lustig ist, sagt Faye.
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Putnam asked if she found anything else and she quipped, “I was going through my drawers. I found some sexy things for my boyfriend and I.” - Putnam fragt ob sie noch was anderes fand. "Ich ging durch meine Schubladen. Ich fand einige sexy Dinge für meinen Freund und mich.
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Faye didn’t give the text messages to AEG’s lawyers. Putnam: ““I guess we’re getting them now.” - Faye gab die Message nicht an die AEG-Anwälte. Putnam "Ich denke wir bekommen sie jetzt."
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Putnam asked Faye when she discovered the texts, and when she handed them over to plaintiff’s counsel. She said she turned them in today. - Putnam fragt Faye wenn sie den Text entdeckte und sie dem Klägeranwalt gab. Sie gab sie ihm heute.
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... that helped her remember when things happened during prep for the “This Is It” tour. AEG attorney Marvin Putnam seemed surprised. - die ihr half zu erinnern wenn Dinge passierten während der TII-Tour. AEG Anwalt Punam scheint überrascht
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It was about this time that the juror had an issue and court took a break. When court resumed, Karen Faye revealed she found texts (cont)
Nach einer kurzen Pause sagte Faye sie fand eine Textmassage
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She responded, “I thought his behavior was a little odd, but not out of the ordinary.”
Sie antwortet. " Ich dachte sein Verhalten ist ein wenig seltsam, aber nicht außergewöhnlich
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Faye said she thought his wig was too big. Putnam asked her about Jackson’s behavior.
Faye sagt die Perrücke war zu groß. Putnam fragt nach Jacksons Verhalten
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On seeing Jackson’s press conference announcing the London shows, Faye said, “I just thought he had a really bad hairpiece on, sir.”
Über die TII-PK in London sagt Faye: "Ich dachte er hat eine wirklich schlechte Perrücke an, Sir"
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Faye on not talking to Jackson after his acquittal: “He had been through a horrible, horrible ordeal and I was by his side s
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We're on the lunch break in Jackson vs. AEG Live. Court resumes at 2 p.m. Will try to get out a few more updates from the morning session.
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Ein paar Tweets von McCartney während einer kurzen Pause, Juror wollte ein Asperin. Putnam fragt, ob sie ihre bisherige Aussage nachgelesen habe. Faye verneinte, sie habe nur ihre Deposition nachgelesen, die über 6 Tage ging. Putnam fragt wie ihr Kontakt zu MJ war nach dem Freispruch. Sie habe alle paar Monate mit ihm telefoniert, ihn aber erst im April 2009 wieder gesehen. Über die TII-Tour erfuhr sie aus den Medien. Putnam fragt ob sie enttäsucht war, dass sie mit MJ nicht nach dem Freispruch sprach. Faye: Nein
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Looks like we're going back in session, so I'll update later.
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We're about to go back in session in Jackson vs AEG Live. Karen Faye just walked into the courtroom to resume testifying.
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The Jacksons vs. AEG Live — Zeugen der Jacksons, 30. Teil
28. Juni 2013
Gestern riefen die Jackson Anwälte Michaels Neffen T.J. Jackson in den Zeugenstand. T.J. Jackson ist der jüngste Sohn von Michaels Bruder Tito Jackson und gegenwärtig Vormund von Michaels drei Kindern zusammen mit Katherine Jackson. Als AEG Live Anwältin Jessica Stebbins Bina T.J. während des Kreuzverhörs fragte, ob er glaube, dass Michael ermordert worden sei, sagte er: “Das tu ich. Ich glaube das, weil er mir und meinen Brüdern ein paar Mal gesagt hatte, dass man ihn umbringen will. Er sagte, nur allein wegen seiner Stellung war er ein Ziel”, so T.J.
Zuvor hatte T.J. unter anderem über den Mord seiner Mutter, Delores Jackson, vor 19 Jahren gesprochen. “Meine Mutter wurde auch wegen Geld umgebracht.” Anfangs wurde der Tod von Delores Jackson, die sich 1993 von Tito hatte scheiden lassen, als Unfall angesehen. Sie ertrank in einem Swimming Pool. Der Fall wurde dann jedoch 1995 auf Initiative von T.J. und seinen zwei Brüdern wieder eröffnet und es wurde gegen einen Mann Anklage wegen widerrechtlicher Tötung erhoben. Drei Jahre später wurde der Mann wegen Totschlags zu 15 Jahren Gefängnis verurteilt.
T.J. sagte auch aus, welche verheerenden emotionalen Konsequenzen der Tod von Michael Jackson für seine drei Kinder gehabt hat. “Er war einfach alles [für sie]“, so T.J. “Der Verlust meines Onkels hat [Paris] auf eine andere Art und Weise getroffen [als Prince und Blanket] und sie es ist hart für sie. Aber wir lieben sie und tun, was immer wir können”, so T.J. Er sagte, er habe keine Worte um zu beschreiben, was Paris durchmache. Es sei hart. “Sie war Daddys Mädchen. Mein Onkel war die Welt für sie. Mein Onkel hat ihnen so viel Liebe gegeben und seit er nicht mehr da ist, hat es Paris sehr schwer, alle haben’s schwer”. Michaels jüngster Sohn Blanket, der 7 Jahre alt war, als sein Vater gestorben war, “hatte sich immer um [Michaels] Bein geklammert, er war sehr schüchtern. Wo immer mein Onkel war, Blanket war neben ihm. Mein Onkel hat Blanket alles bedeutet”, so T.J. Was Michaels Sohn Prince betrifft, der am Tag zuvor ausgesagt hatte, sagte T.J., dass er Michaels “kleiner Assistent” war. “Er war für sein Alter sehr reif, sehr intelligent. “Mein Onkel hatte ihn für Sachen vorbereitet”, als er mit ihm über Geschäfte sprach.
Als Vormund von Michaels Kindern müsse er sie ständig vor auflauernden Paparazzis schützen, die Fotos von den Kinder machen wollen. “Um ehrlich zu sein, es nervt total. Es ist schlimm”, so T.J. Er schlug vor, dass es ein neues Gesetz geben sollte, das Kinder von Prominenten vor Fotografen schützen sollte. “Es macht alles nur schwieriger für die Kinder, um trauern, sich vom Verlust erholen und mit dem Leben weitermachen zu können”, sagte T.J.
Quellen: jackson.ch, cnn.com
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The Jacksons vs. AEG Live — Zeugen der Jacksons, 29. Teil
27. Juni 2013
Gestern war’s nun soweit. Einen Tag nach dem vierten Jahrestag von Michael Jacksons Tod nahm sein Sohn Prince den Zeugenstand ein. In den ersten 30 Minuten wurden den Geschworenen von den Jackson Anwälten diverse Videos und Fotos von Michael und seinen Kindern gezeigt. Anschliessend befragte Jackson Anwalt Brian Panish Prince zu den letzten Wochen in Michaels Leben. Michael Jackson hatte oft geweint, nachdem er mit AEG Live Leuten telefoniert hatte, so sein Sohn. “Er hatte gesagt ‘Sie werden mich umbringen; sie werden mich umbringen’”, so Prince. Mit “sie” waren gemäss Prince AEG Live CEO Randy Phillips sowie Michaels Manager Dr. Tohme Tohme gemeint.
Prince sagte aus, dass Randy Phillips in der Nacht vor Michaels Tod in ihrem Haus war und Conrad Murray besucht hatte, während Michael noch bei den Proben war. “[Phillips] hatte [Murray] am Ellbogen gefasst. Aus meiner Sicht sah’s aggressiv aus. [...] sie waren sehr nah beisammen und [Phillips] gestikulierte mit den Händen”, so Prince. Er habe jedoch nicht gehört, worüber sie gesprochen hatten. Nachdem er den Vorfall beobachtet hatte, rief Prince seinen Vater vom Häuschen der Sicherheitsleute aus an, um ihm zu sagen, dass Phillips bei ihnen zu Hause sei. Michael habe seinem Sohn daraufhin gesagt, er solle Randy Phillips etwas zu essen und zu trinken anbieten. Das war das letzte Mal, dass Prince mit seinem Daddy gesprochen hatte.
Das nächste Mal, als er seinen Vater gesehen hatte, hing dieser “halb von seinem Bett runter, seine Augen waren zurückgerollt” und Murray hatte versucht, ihn wiederzubeleben. Paris war Prince die Treppe hinauf gefolgt, “aber wir haben sie die Treppe runtergezogen. Sie hat die ganze Zeit geschrien, dass sie ihren Daddy sehen wollte”, so Prince. Im Spital habe Dr. Murray ihnen dann gesagt: “Sorry Kinder, Euer Dad ist tot”, so Prince.
Im 25-minütigen Kreuzverhör versuchte AEG Live Anwalt Marvin Putnam Princes Aussage betreffend Randy Phillips Besuch bei ihnen zu Hause und dessen Auseinandersetzung mit Conrad Murray zu diskreditieren. Prince blieb jedoch bei seiner Aussage; er gestand einzig ein, dass es möglich sei, dass dieser Vorfall sich zwei Nächte vor Michael Jacksons Tod abgespielt hatte und nicht am Vorabend.
Brian Panish gab Prince weiter die Gelegenheit über den emotionalen Verlust, den die drei Kinder infolge des frühzeitigen Tods ihres Vaters, erlitten hatten zu sprechen. “Ich kann nachts nicht schlafen. Ich habe Schwierigkeiten, nachts zu schlafen”, so Prince. Der Tod seines Vaters habe ihn für eine Weile emotional von vielen Leuten distanziert gehalten. Er habe es vermisst, mit seinem Vater seine Erfahrungen nach seinem ersten Schultag, mit seiner ersten Freundin oder mit dem Autofahren zu teilen, sagte Prince.
Prince sprach auch über seine Schwester Paris und wie der Tod ihres Vaters sie speziell hart getroffen hat. (Paris’ Selbstmordversuch und ihre Einlieferung ins Spital wurden im Gerichtssaal nicht angesprochen und es ist nicht klar, ob die Geschworenen wissen, dass dies vorgefallen ist.) “Ich denke, von all meinen Geschwistern, hat es sie wohl am meisten betroffen, weil sie die Prinzessin meines Dads war”, so Prince. Prince sagte auch, dass die zweitägige Befragung durch die AEG Anwälte im März dieses Jahres (im Rahmen der eidesstattlichen Zeugeneinvernahme) von Paris “schmerzhaft für sie” gewesen war. “Sie hatte einige Probleme davor, danach und, so vermute ich, währenddessen”, so Prince. “Sie geht definitiv auf ihre eigene Art und Weise damit um”, so Prince weiter.
Wie wir am 22. Juni im Rahmen der Aussage von Michaels persönlicher Köchin, Kai Chase, berichtet hatten, feiert Paris ihren Geburtstag seit dem Tod ihres Vaters nicht mehr, “weil es ohne [ihren Vater] nicht mehr dasselbe ist. Dies gilt ebenfalls für Prince. Michaels jüngster Sohn, Blanket, jedoch möchte seine Geburtstage weiterhin feiern. “Im Moment weiss ich nicht, ob Blanket realisiert, was er verloren hat. Er war so jung”, so Prince. Und wie er, habe Blanket keinen Vater mehr, der ihm den Weg zeigt.
AEG Live hatte versucht, Blanket im Rahmen dieses Prozesses ebenfalls zur Aussage zu nötigen. Die Richterin hatte den Antrag jedoch abgelehnt, nachdem ein Psychologe ausgesagt hatte, dass es dem Jungen schaden würde. Paris wird wie erwähnt aufgrund der laufenden psychiatrischen Behandlung nach ihrem Selbstmordbesuch ebenfalls nicht (mehr) vor Gericht aussagen. Es kann jedoch weiterhin vorkommen, dass Videoaufnahmen von ihrer eidesstattlichen Zeugenaussage im März vor Gericht verwendet und den Geschworenen gezeigt werden.
Die Geschworenen bekamen von Prince auch einen Einblick in die Welt von Michael und seinen drei Kindern. Unter anderem wurde ihnen ein bisher unbekanntes Home Video gezeigt, das an einem Weihnachtstag von Michael selbst aufgenommen wurde. Darin hatte er seine Kinder gefragt, wie sie “die Welt verändern” möchten, wenn sie gross sind.
Hier das Home Video( *http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LpOun...ature=youtu.be.)
Prince wurde zudem zu seinen Schulleistungen und seinen sonstigen Aktivitäten befragt. So erfuhren die Geschworenen, dass er sehr gute Noten hat in der Schule und Kampfsport betreibt sowie als Mechaniker für das Roboterprogramm seiner Schule arbeitet. Nach dem Abschluss der High School möchte er an die University of Southern California, Film und Business studieren gehen. Sein Vater habe ihm gezeigt, wie die besten Filmemacher ihr Handwerk betrieben. Prince ist ehrenamtlich auch im Kinderspital in Los Angeles tätig für ein Programm, das junge Patienten mit Büchern beliefert, “um sich von ihren Problemen abzulenken”, so Prince. Sein Vater habe “immer gesagt, man solle Gutes tun für die Gemeinschaft und man solle so oft helfen, wie man kann”, sagte Prince.
Den Geschworenen wurden auch Videos von Michael und seinen Kindern auf der Neverland Ranch gezeigt, bevor sie nach dem Arvizo Prozess von dort weggezogen sind. “Sie haben es meinem Dad verdorben”, sagte Prince. Überall auf dem Gelände der Neverland Ranch waren auch immer wieder Zitate und Gedichte seines Vaters. Eines davon lautet: “Wenn Kinder spielen, Tyrannen weinen, dann gibt es nichts zu sagen”. Als auch Videos von den verschiedenen Bahnen etc. auf Neverland gezeigt wurden, berichtete Prince, “Wir gingen nur bei besonderen Anlässen auf diese Bahnen und zum Zoo, weil mein Dad wollte, dass wir bescheiden bleiben”. Als ein Foto von Prince und Michael an einem Klavier gezeigt wurde, sagte Prince, dass er nie ein Instrument wird spielen können. “[U]nd ich kann definitiv nicht singen”, so Prince.
Prince erzählte auch, dass er zu Lebzeiten seines Vaters sechs Tage pro Woche Schule hatte; entweder wurde er von einem Lehrer oder von seinem Vater selbst unterrichtet. Ein wichtiger Aspekt war jeweils, über andere Kulturen und Religionen zu lernen. Prince betonte auch, dass Michael seine Kinder immer fragte, wie es ihnen in der Schule ging und was sie machten, um die Welt zu verbessern.
Ein Thema war auch das Tragen von Masken in der Öffentlichkeit, als sie klein waren, “damit niemand wusste, wie wir aussahen, so dass, wenn wir mal ohne [unseren Vater] unterwegs waren, wir eine normale Kindheit haben konnten.” Nachdem er nun konstant beobachtet bzw. verfolgt würde, verstehe er jetzt, warum sein Daddy das so wollte und gemacht hatte, sagte Prince.
Quellen: jackson.ch, cnn.com, latimes.com, youtube.com
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Hier der letzte Teil der Aussage von TJ. Von oben nach unten. Alles dann hier zu lesen.
Insgesamt schöne und emotionale Äußerungen über MJ von TJ und Taj.
Intressant, dass er sagte, dass er traurig war, dass Grace als Kindermädchen von der Jackson-Familie entlassen wurde. Sie wollte die Erziehung der Kinder im Stil von MJ, genau wie TJ und seine Brüder fortsetzen, aber es habe Differenzen mit Teilen der Familie gegeben. Nachdem die Kinder ins Haus der Großmutter kamen sei es schwer möglich gewesen den Erziehungsstil fortzusezten, gleiches äußert er auch darüber über die vielen öffentlichen Auftritte (es sei schwer das Leben der Kinder privat zu halten).
Insgesamt ist es natürlich eine Aussage um den Verlust zu erläutern, die Jury muss das ja irgendwann im Urteilsfalle in einen Betrag umwandeln. Relevantes zum Klagepunkt erwartungsgemäß nicht dabei. Er sah MJ einmal in 2009, beim Familientreffen. Dort habe er einen glücklichen Eindruck gemacht. Von Phillips nahm er nach seinem Tod für MJs Kids Karten für die Lakers an. Dieses Spiel besuchte er mit den Kindern. In der Depositon sagte er aus, dass er sich bei Phillips für die Karten bedankte, im Prozess sagte er, er kann sich nicht erinnern ob er sich bedankt hat. Die Jackson-Anwältin hebt im Re-Cross später dann noch hervor TJ habe da ja zu dem Zeitpunkt noch nichts von den Treffen von Murray mit Phillips gewusst. MJ hat TJ und Brüdern mehrmals in den 90ern und 2000ern gesagt, dass er umgebracht werden wird auf Grund seiner Erfolges.
Heute dann Karen Faye im Zeugenstand.
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After MJ died, Grace Rwamba came back to work with the family, TJ explained. But he said there was a situation where Grace had to move on.
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TJ: I was a little disappointed she had to. Along with my grandmother, she was the mother figure the kids had in their lives.
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"I don't know specifically what happened but I think there had been conflicts between Grace and other members of the family," TJ said.
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TJ said MJ raised the kids differently. They read a lot, didn't watch tv during the week, one movie a week if they earned, TJ explained
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"Once my uncle passed, they came into my grandma's house in regular society, it was hard to maintain the same lifestyle," TJ expressed.
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"She (Grace) wanted to maintain, as did my brothers and I, my uncle's child raising," TJ said.
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Boyle asked TJ about Paris deposition regarding Grace. Defendant's attorney objected, they went to a sidebar and lunch break.
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Attorney Jessica Stebbins Bina did the cross examination of TJ on behalf of AEG.
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Bina asked about Katherine's health problems last summer and if he's aware of any health problems? TJ said no.
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Bina inquired how many times TJ saw or spoke with MJ and the children. He said he spoke with his uncle every other month.
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TJ definitely remembers seeing MJ at least once in 2009.
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Katherine was in court wearing a fuschia jacket. Aside from TJ, she was also accompanied by Taj Jackson.
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Bina asked if TJ draws salary for being MJ's children co-guardian.
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"It was hard for me to accept it, my grandmother insisted and a couple of months ago I began receiving it," TJ said.
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Bina asked about children being more exposed to the media after MJ died, like going on Oprah and Prince working on Entertainment Tonight.
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"It's difficult, because they are 15 and 16," TJ said. "It's hard to maintain that private life."
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"It was very important for him to excel in his career," TJ said about Prince.
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"I didn't release music until I was 16 or 17," TJ said. "I encourage them to be children first."
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Paris wants to be an actress, Prince says he wants to act then become a producer, TJ explained.
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Bina: As their guardian you haven't prevented them to be in the public eye TJ: It's hard to do that when he's straight A student with honors
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'If he really wants to do it, 100%, he should be able to do it at 16," TJ said about Prince working on a television show.
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"I wanted to do for the art of it, I like the quiet, private life," TJ explained.
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"I would say they want to build their own career, and ET is a stepping stone for his acting career," TJ said about Prince.
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TJ: It's tough, as long as he (Prince) understands his responsibilities and the pitfalls, it's hard to say no
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Bina: You didn't go to Carolwood house? TJ: Not before MJ died
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TJ said the last time he saw MJ alive was in his grandparents anniversary, where most of the family member were there.
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Bina notes the anniversary happened on May 14, 2009.
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"He was in a good mood," TJ recalled. "He was happy, he was talking about the kids, making jokes, that stuff."
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TJ didn't remember MJ being extremely thin then, but said he wasn't concerned to check it.
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"He was just happy and jolly and I was just happy to see him and the kids," TJ said.
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TJ: We talked primarily about the children, that I wanted more kids, talked about movies.
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TJ said before MJ left, he asked him if he was going to London. "I said 100% and he said ok, see you there," TJ testified.
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TJ said MJ was excited that TJ was going to London. TJ said he didn't know if MJ was happy because of tour or for being around his family
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The only time TJ recalled seeing his uncle in 2009 was at the anniversary dinner.
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Bina asked TJ about MJ's wedding gift to him, which was $30,000 in cash. "He wanted to pay for my wedding, but the wedding passed," TJ said.
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TJ reluctantly accepted the gift. Bina asked if MJ was in financial difficulties then and couldn't afford the gift. TJ said he didn't know.
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Bina: Did you ever talk to your uncle about his finances? TJ: No
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"At the dinner, MJ seemed happy," TJ said. "I don't think he would be sad if he was sad," TJ said about MJ during the anniversary dinner.
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Bina: Did you consider your uncle to be a private person? TJ: For the most part, yes
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Bina: Did you ever see a doctor on Dangerous tour? TJ: No
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"I don't remember seeing a doctor in the HIStory tour either," TJ said.
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TJ testified he was familiar with Dr. Metzger. He said he had not heard of the drug Propofol before MJ died.
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"I've heard many rumors about my uncle that were not true," TJ testified.
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Bina: You never personally saw substance abuse? TJ: No
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TJ said he didn't believe MJ had a substance abuse problem, never saw him take pills.
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Bina asked if TJ thought MJ would've told him if he had a drug problem.
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"I don't think he would've told me, but I'm not sure. He told me some things, but I don't think so," TJ responded.
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"My cousins and I were going to Laker game, they wanted to go to ESPN zone before the game, and that's when I met Randy Phillips," TJ said.
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Bina asked if TJ thanked Phillips for getting them tickets. TJ testified he didn't know he got the tickets.
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But in his deposition, TJ testified he did thank Phillips for the tickets.
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Bina asked about MJ's lavish lifestyle.
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"It's hard to measure myself against my uncle, he was kind of person who loved art, liked collectibles, liked the best of the best" TJ said
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But TJ noted MJ wore pajama bottoms, V necks, and Mickey Mouse watches.
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"Homes I would say yes, he wanted nice homes. Cars yes and no," TJ explained.
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TJ said MJ was very important to him, had a lot of influence on him.
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Bina: It's hard for you to believe he could've died of drug overdose? TJ: It's hard for me to know that he's dead
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Bina: Do you believe your uncle was murdered? TJ: I do
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"He (MJ) did tell me and a couple of his brothers he would be murdered because of his position, because he was a target," TJ said.
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TJ had conversation with MJ about it during mid 90s to mid 2000s.
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In re-direct, Boyle said he wanted to talk about the Lakers tickets.
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Boyle: Did you know at that time that Mr. Phillips had a secret meeting with Dr. Murray? TJ: I didn't know
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TJ said they didn't go with Phillips to the Laker game, he was just there, at the game zone.
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Boyle: Do you think Jackson's kids should be allowed to go to the Laker games? TJ: I think they should go anywhere they want
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TJ said he began acting as the children's co-guardian shortly after MJ died.
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Boyle: Did you do it for four years for free? TJ: It was out of love
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TJ said his grandma convinced him to accept payment because he has three kids of his own that are losing a lot of his time.
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Nothing further from the attorneys, TJ he was excused. He traded places with brother Taj in audience, sat next to his grandmother.
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Deborah Chang did direct examination.Taj, real name Tariano Jackson, II is 39 years old. He is the first grandson.
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"I was spoiled with love, let's just say that," Taj said.
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Taj said he was close to MJ. "My uncle, besides being my musical role model, he was like an older brother to us," Taj explained.
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"He guided our lives, he was everything," Taj said about MJ. "I feel lost some times because he's not here."
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"When my mom passed, he stepped in and made sure our whole world didn't crumble," TJ said about MJ.
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MJ helped us with school, Taj said, paid for his college. He encouraged his nephew do it for his mother, to make her proud.
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Taj said his mother and father were very much in love, but separated. "They loved each other, I never understood the problem."
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"My mom really looked up to my uncle, leaned on him a lot," Taj testified. "He loved the way that she raised us."
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"It was known she put us first," Taj said. Dolores (DD) Jackson was Taj's mom's name.
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Taj said he stayed at Neverland many times. "Neverland to me, he (MJ) always let us know, it was to help people," Taj explained.
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"My uncle didn't eat candy, it was for the sick children he was bringing to Neverland," Taj explained.
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Taj said MJ would take hundreds of people from Make a Wish foundation. "He wanted to make them better, he felt that he could."
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Ryan White became poster child for HIV/AIDS Taj said. This was during the time we were all terrified about it; Ryan was kicked out of school
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"They had a really strong relationship," Taj said, explaining MJ took Ryan to Neverland, went into the pool with him.
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"It was Disneyland," Taj said about Neverland. "He named the train station after my grandma, Katherine. There's a plaque with her name."
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After Ryan White died, Taj said MJ dedicated the song "Gone Too Soon" to him.
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Chang played the video clip of the song.
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Taj: Michael taught us that being a musician and having the influence not only to make music but to make a change in the world
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"He was constantly trying to help people," Taj said, adding there were lots of things the media didn't know about MJ.
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"I was the first Jackson to go to college, he was so proud of that," Taj said.
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Taj also attended Buckley School, went to Loyola Marymount college, studying Music, Film and TV. He needs to finish the last year of school.
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Chang: Was he your mentor? Taj: Yes, definitely
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Taj said his dad Tito was his mentor at baseball. He coached their little league team.
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Taj said he shared three things with MJ: Music, Film and the Three Stooges, which Michael loved.
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"He bought me my first camera," Taj said. He shot home video of his mother and brothers while she was still alive in 1994.
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"I keep my most sentimental things in my safe," Taj explained about a note he has from MJ.
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Note: Taj, I saw these and thought they were perfect for you. Love always, Uncle Doo Doo
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Taj said MJ was very close with Lionel Richie. Played snippet video of 3T.
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Taj co-directed their last video for album brotherhood. Chang played a snippet of it, quite funny video. Some jurors were laughing.
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Chang: Was your uncle proud of you? Taj: Yes, very proud
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Taj said he lived at Neverland for 6 months. He said his grandma was there all the time.
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Taj said MJ asked him to help raise the children. Taj said he was just about to begin your with 3T and MJ understood it.
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Taj became the person in charge of MJ's storage and belongings.
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Chang asked Taj who was MJ's mentor: "Definitely my grandma, he would tell me that, you could see it, I sensed that," Taj responded.
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"My mom was my mentor and my mom's mentor was my grandma," Taj said. "They all shared the purity in their heart," Taj explained.
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"My grandma was my uncle's compass in life," Taj said. "He was constantly trying to make her proud of him."
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Taj said having children was something they encouraged MJ, since they thought he was going to be a great father.
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"It lit him up, that's what he lived for, his kids and my grandma," Taj said. When MJ died, Taj said they stepped in right away.
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"I think it's more difficult because my uncle to them was both father and mother, he was everything for them," Taj said.
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"When you lose a parent, your life is never the same again," Taj expressed. He said it hurts specially during milestones moments in his life
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"I just got married," Taj said, crying. "And my mom wasn't there."
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Taj told the jury they chose to marry at Hayvenhurst because it was the place his mom and his uncle would be.
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Taj got married on June 16. He said he had a vase with a candle in it lit for his mother.
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Taj said he and his brothers wrote the song "Everything" at Hayvenhurst. Judge breaks for afternoon session. Katherine wipes her eyes.
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Attorneys and the judge discussed extensively about things that one side wants to show the jury but the other side doesn't.
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Judge adjourned session early for the jury. They are ordered back tomorrow morning at 10 am PT.
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Karen Faye will resume her testimony tomorrow from a few weeks back. We hope to see you then!Zuletzt geändert von Lena; 28.06.2013, 11:55.
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Jacksons vs AEG - Day 38 – June 26 2013 – Summary
Prince arrived with Katherine, TJ and Trent Jackson.
Michael Jackson Jr. Testimony
Prince's wearing a dark suit and dark tie, white shirt. (ABC7) Before his testimony, Prince sat in a chair in the “well” of the courtroom, looking around and taking everything in. The "well" is the area where attorneys and the court reporter sit. Prince sat across a barrier from his grandmother. Katherine Jackson, Trent and TJ Jackson all sat in the front row of the audience. All stood to greet the jury when they came in at 9:55 a.m. (AP)
Jackson direct
In court, Prince wore a black suit with a dark grey tie with his long brown hair tucked behind his ears. He spoke softly as he began testifying, and the first exhibit shown to jurors was a photo taken with their grandmother on his and Paris' first day of school. He described his school life, including taking a summer course in U.S. history, participating on the school's robotics team and volunteer work. (AP)
The first 15 minutes of Prince Jackson’s testimony were dominated by family photos, videos. He said he helped pick them out for trial. Lots of photos were shown throughout Prince Jackson's testimony, including one of him, Paris and their grandmother on 1st day of school. (AP)
Jackson's attorney Brian Panish did direct examination. Prince Michael Joseph Jackson sworn in at 9:57 am PT. "Michael Joseph Jackson, Jr." Prince was originally named after the family name, but then his brother Blanket was born and they called him Prince. (ABC7)
Panish: Are you nervous? Prince: A little bit (ABC7)
He said he was born on Feb 13, 1997, he's 16 years old. Prince was born at Cedars Sinai Hospital. Prince said Paris he's 15 years old, born on Apr 3, 1998. Prince Michael Joseph Jackson, known as Blanket, was born on Feb 21, 2001; he's 11. (ABC7)
Prince said he attends Buckley School in Sherman Oaks, has just finished up sophomore year. Prince is taking US History class in the summer, a very compact course. He belongs to the National honor society, received artistic award. Prince used to play football and basketball, did martial arts. In school Prince works with metal. He said he's the mechanic, there is a team that design robots and they compete nationally. Prince said he has a 3.68 GPA. He said education is something important to him because it is something his dad taught them. Prince wants to go to college at USC to study either Film, or Mechanical science or business. Prince described how Michael taught him to find the good shots in movies, encouraged him to learn about films. MJ's son said community service is required in school and he does it at the Children's Hospital in LA. He described how he brought books and read to the kids that were in the cancer wards. Prince said he wants to help out as much as he can, got the desire to help from his father. (ABC7) "He always said you should give back to the community and to give back as much as you can," Prince said. "I got my desire to give back from my father." Prince added that his dad always told him "everything is a learning experience...always learn from your experience." (Eonline)
The testimony by Prince Jackson began with the teenager showing jurors roughly 15 minutes of private family photos and home videos. He described growing up on Neverland Ranch and showed the panel videos of the property's petting zoos and other amenities. After his father's acquittal of child molestation charges, Prince described living in the Middle East, Ireland and Las Vegas. (AP)
Another image shown to jurors was Michael Jackson playing piano with his son while Prince was still an infant or toddler. Plaintiff's attorney Brian Panish asked Prince whether he was interested in pursuing a career in music."I can never play an instrument and I definitely cannot sing," Prince said to laughter from the jury. (AP) He can't sing and he can't play an instrument, he noted, and added that his father suggested he could become an actor. (Today)
Prince said MJ always dressed them up so when he grew up, he could show his kids how he looked when little (ABC7)
Prince said he lived in Neverland and in France. Neverland was a property his dad owned and he lived there until he was 6 years old. "After the criminal case there were some complications in the house from the police; I guess they ruined the house for him" Prince testified . About Neverland, Prince explained: "When my dad bought the house, he built it for the kids he wanted to have, he built it for us." Prince said that Neverland was a family home, that everyone was family, from housekeeper to nanny. He said they had amusement park and zoo. Prince said Neverland's zoo had pet giraffe, alpacas; amusement park, poetry his dad wrote. "We only went there (amusement park and zoo) for special occasions, because my dad wanted us to remain humble," Prince said. (ABC7) One video showed a giraffe and several alpacas in the Neverland Zoo. "I never really went near them because they would spit on us," Prince said. (CNN) "I guess they ruined it for my dad," he said of the investigators handling the molestation case and why it led his father to leave Neverland. He said the fireplaces were always on, and so was classical music when the family lived at Neverland Ranch. (AP) His attorneys showed home movies and photos of Neverland, which Prince called "a very homey place." He said the children were only allowed to go to the zoo and ride the Ferris wheel on special occasions. "My dad wanted us to remain humble," he said. Posted around the compound, he said, were messages and poems from their father.“When children play, tyrants cry, there is nothing to say,” said one. (LATimes)
Prince said MJ loved making films of them. Panish showed several home movies and pictures of the children and Michael. MJ wrote the song"The Lost Children" for his children, Panish played clips of the song. (ABC7)
Prince said that after Neverland they travelled a bit: went to Bahrain, Ireland, Dubai, Aspen and New York for a little, and then to Vegas. "My dad had a lot of business, not just music, and he wanted to take us, he didn't want to leave us," Prince testified. Nanny changed from time to time, but mostly it was Grace Rwamba, Prince said. (ABC7)
"He (MJ) wanted to know what we were learning," Prince said. "He wanted to know how we were doing in school, how we could better the world." (ABC7) Prince Jackson said he would spend six days in school, either with his father or a tutor, learning about other cultures and religions. His father would ask them how they were doing in school and what they were doing “to better the world.” (LATimes)
Prince: We wrote a lot of screenplays, my dad taught me how to write scripts, helped me unlock thinking with the right side of my brain. Prince described how he and MJ would first watch movie without sound to learn to find the good shots. "We watched the sound afterwards and he would show how the sound could actually make or break the movie," Prince said. (ABC7) He described his interest in filmmaking as something he and his dad shared. They'd watch movies twice -- the first time on mute. Prince said his father would show him how the scenes were shot, and then impart on him how important sound was on the 2nd viewing. Prince said his dad gave him a necklace with a camera viewfinder on it, so he could see how to compose shots. (AP)
Jurors watched a home video of Michael Jackson questioning his three children about how they planned "to change the world" when they grow up.Prince testified that the video was made at Christmas.
"What's Christmas mean?" Jackson is heard asking his children.
"Love," Blanket responded.
"Who's Blanket going to be to change this world?" Jackson asked.
"I don't know," Blanket, who appeared to be about 5 at the time, answered.
"What does Paris want to do? Be honest search your heart," Jackson said.
"Help the poor," she answered. Paris also said she would like to be a gymnast.
Prince told his father he aspired to be a movie director and architect because he liked "making things." [CNN]
Plaintiff's attorney Brian Panish then showed a video of the kids on Christmas attorney. Jackson asked them what they wanted to do in life. Blanket said he didn't know. Paris said she wanted to help the poor.Prince: "I’d like to be a movie director and an architect." Paris also said she wanted to do something artistic, like gymnastics. (AP) Panish showed a Christmas video, where MJ is asking the kids what they wanted to do in life. He told Paris to search your heart. Paris said she wanted help the poor, and be a gymnast. Prince testified that day was the first time his dad taught him how to tie a tie. "Every time he would ask how we would help the world," Prince said. "Most my work ethics I learned from my dad." (ABC7) What's more, Prince noted he got his work ethic from the late pop star, stating, "If he wasn't working, he got depressed." (Eonline)
Panish asked if Prince would describe his father as "lazy." "I don't think he ever sat and did nothing, we were always running, exercising, he would teach me how to drive," Prince responded. (ABC7)
He told the jury that his father was always working, but his children had no idea he was a global superstar."We always listened to his music, but we never knew how famous he was," Prince said.He said he and his sister Paris watched a video of one of their father's performances and got a sense of his fame when overwhelmed fans were carried from his shows on stretchers. (AP). Prince said he really didn't know how famous his dad was until he watched movie of MJ's concert with girls crying, taken out in stretchers. "We always listened to his music, but we never knew how famous he was," Prince said. (ABC7) Prince said he and his brother and sister grew up not knowing how famous their father was. “He never wanted us to know,” he said. Prince said he and Paris discovered their dad’s fame after watching a video of one of his concerts. “We always listened to his music, but we never knew how famous he was,” Prince Jackson said. (AP)
Panish inquired about the masks the children wore while with MJ in public. "He used to make sure no one would know how we looked like; when we went out no one would recognize us, we could be normal kids" Prince said. Panish: Was your dad protective of you? Prince: Very (ABC7) His father, he testified, made all of them wear masks in public “so no one would know what we looked like so if we went out without him we could have a normal childhood.” Prince said he's now followed all the time."So I know why he did it. (LAtimes) "When I was little, the masks were annoying," he said. "It was hot and the feathers were always in my face but now that I'm older, I understand why he did it." (Today)
Prince said Grace worked with MJ before he was born then came on as nanny after his sister was born. She worked with them for about 12 years. (ABC7) Prince was asked a couple times about Paris now. He said she was having a rough time. He was asked about the deposition clip of Paris that was played earlier in the trial in which she related a story about nanny Grace Rwaramba Prince said he saw Grace and Paris together recently. “They were happy,” he said. (AP)
He then related the family receiving Kenya, their chocolate Labrador, on a Christmas morning a few years ago. Prince said his father was terrified of dogs, but wanted his children to have one. (AP) Plaintiff’s attorney Brian Panish then played a montage of the song “You Are My Life” played over several photos and a video. The video showed Prince, Paris and Blanket excitedly receiving Kenya. The montage was first shown during opening statements, but is now officially part of the evidence in the case. (AP)
Panish played clip of song "You are my life", which MJ wrote for the kids. Prince watched. Next Panish played video of the Christmas when kids got their chocolate Labrador dog named Kenya. Panish: How did you feel then? Prince: Very happy. Panish: How did you feel when you, your brother, sister and dad were living in Vegas? Prince: That was happy for us. Prince said they lived in a hotel before moving to Carolwood before Christmas 2008.(ABC7)
Prince talked about MJ's dealings with AEG and Dr. Tohme: "No, from what he (MJ) told me he wasn't happy with it." "He was very excited about the tour, this would've been probably last time we would be able to see him perform," Prince expressed. Prince said he saw MJ perform once when he was little. Prince said MJ would come home from rehearsal, he just wished he had more time to rehearse and have more time to prepare. (ABC7)
Prince then described his father’s feelings toward the “This Is It” tour. He said he wasn’t happy with the terms. Prince said his father was excited about performing the “This Is It” shows, but wanted more time to rehearse. Michael Jackson was excited about the prospect of performing for his children, and knew it would probably be his last tour, Prince said. “He just wished he had more time for rehearsals,” Prince said about the "This Is It" shows. (AP)
Prince saw MJ on the phone. Most of the times, it was with Randy Phillips or Dr. Tohme. "He'd get off the phone, he would cry sometimes," Prince said. "They are gonna kill me, they are gonna kill me," Prince said MJ would say. "He (MJ) would say "they are gonna kill me, they are gonna kill me", Prince testified, referring mostly to AEG and Randy Phillips, and Tohme. (ABC7) Prince then described seeing his father while he was talking on the phone with AEG Live CEO Randy Phillips. He said his dad would get upset. “He would cry sometimes,” Prince said of his dad’s conversations with Phillips. He said his father once told him “They’re going to kill me.” (AP) On Wednesday his son Prince said Jackson was upset on the phone "a lot of time," most of the time with AEG Live chief Randy Phillips. "He would cry sometimes. He said: 'They're gonna kill me, they're gonna kill me.'" Asked who he was talking about, he said: "People in AEG, Randy Phillips." (AFP)
Prince that his father was excited about going back on tour before his death but wasn't happy about the terms of the ill-fated shows. Prince Jackson told jurors his father wanted more time to rehearse and had several tense phone conversations with promoters of his "This Is It" shows that sometimes ended with his father in tears.The 16-year-old said his father remarked after one of the conversations, "'They're going to kill me,'" Prince testified. He did not elaborate.(AP)
"After he got off the phone, he would cry," Prince Jackson testified. "He would say 'They're going to kill me, they're going to kill me.'" His father told him he was talking about AEG LIve CEO Randy Phillips and his ex-manager, Dr. Tohme Tohme, Prince said. (CNN)
"My dad didn't fight, he was like my grandma, too kind to fight, that's why he called my grandpa," Prince said. (ABC7)
Prince: When at the Bel Air Hotel, my dad tried to fire Dr. Tohme. He got in a fight on the phone, yelled. Prince: We applauded him, we didn't like being around him (Dr. Tohme), he brought bad energy to us. (ABC7)
"My dad was always optimistic," Prince said. (ABC7)
Prince said he first met Dr Conrad Murray in Vegas. "He came over to our house to treat us for multiple sickness, cold and things like that". Prince said he remembers Cherilyn Lee coming to the house to give his dad IVs. He said he thought it was vitamins. "Dr. Murray came over every day, except Sunday night. He spent the nights," Prince said. "I saw him give my dad IV injection once, I thought it was vitamins," Prince recalled about Dr. Murray. Prince said that when Dr. Murray first started treating MJ he would do it in the library, and later on in the master bedroom upstairs. (ABC7) The 16-year-old told how Murray acted as the family doctor, treating the children for minor ailments. In the months before his death Murray "would come every day, except Sunday night," he said, adding that: "I saw him give my father IVs (intravenous drips) of clear liquid.... I saw IV holders and oxygen tanks" in his bedroom, he said. (AFP)
Panish: Did your dad write notes?
Prince: All the times, on mirrors, bathroom doors. Sometimes it was song lyrics or messages he got down from religious or spiritual leaders (ABC7)
Prince showed where his bedroom was. Paris had her own, Blanket would go back/forth between their bedrooms. (ABC7)
Prince said Blanket excels in school. (ABC7)
Prince then testified about the Carrolwood mansion. He said it was his understanding that his dad kept his bedroom locked. He said one time he tried to go into his father’s room, and it was locked. His dad was doing a meditation session on Skype, he said. (AP) "To my understanding the door to his bedroom was locked" Prince said. "When I tried I think he was meditating on Skype w/ person from India" (ABC7)
Prince also talked about seeing oxygen tanks in the home. He said they weren’t hidden and were visible to anyone downstairs. Prince on Conrad Murray: “I was 12, to my understanding he was supposed to make sure my dad stayed healthy.” (AP)
Prince said he saw IV bags and oxygen tanks at the house. Panish: Did you think it was weird to have oxygen tanks?
Prince: No, I was 12 and to my understanding he (Dr. Murray) was supposed to make sure my dad stayed healthy. (ABC7)
Prince said he never saw Murray's treatments of his father. "I was 12. To my understanding he was supposed to make sure my dad stayed healthy," Prince testified. (AP)
He then talked about Conrad Murray. He said it was his understanding from his dad that AEG was supposed to be paying Murray but wasn’t. Prince said his dad would give him and Paris a few hundred dollars occasionally to give Murray. Murray wouldn’t take the money directly from Michael Jackson, Prince said. He said the doctor would only take half the cash. (AP)
Prince said AEG wasn't paying Murray and MJ felt bad. "My dad used to give me couple hundred dollars to give to Murray," Prince testified. "I'd give him but he'd only take a portion of it" Prince recalled. He said money was to help Murray with the basics like food, water and gas. (ABC7)
After discussing Murray, Prince talked about AEG Live CEO Randy Phillips. Plaintiff's attorney Brian Panish then asked Prince if he ever saw Randy Phillips at the mansion on Carrolwood Drive. He said yes. Prince said he saw Phillips would sometimes show up when his father wasn’t home. He said he saw Phillips talk to Murray twice. He described a tense meeting in which Phillips seemed “aggressive” and was grabbing Murray by the elbow. Prince said he couldn't remember exactly which night he witnessed this tense meeting between Phillips and Murray. Prince said he thought he saw Phillips on the night of June 24, 2009, but he didn’t remember the exact date. He also said Phillips would sometimes come with Jackson’s on-again, off-again, manager, Tohme Tohme. (AP)
Phillips would come either with Dr. Tohme or some other man to his house, Prince said. "I saw him talk twice to Dr. Murray," Prince testified. "He was grabbing his elbow and looked aggressive to me.". "He (Phillips) was grabbing him (Dr. Murray) by the back of the elbow, they were really close," Prince recalled. Panish: Did it surprise you? Prince: Yes. Prince said MJ was in rehearsals either the night before or 2 nights before he died, Phillips showed up at the house to talk to Dr. Murray. "I came in and asked if they'd like something to drink or eat," Prince said. "Randy Phillips was talking to Dr. Murray, grabbing his elbow." As to Dr. Tohme, Prince said: "From what I heard he's not even a real doctor." "I was surprised they were all in the house," Prince said. "I hadn't seen Dr. Tohme in a while, I still didn't like him." (ABC7)
Prince said that he saw AEG Live CEO Randy Phillips at the family's rented mansion in a heated conversation with his father's doctor in days before his father's death. The teenager said he wasn't sure what day the conversation occurred, but that he saw Phillips grabbing former cardiologist Conrad Murray's elbow. Phillips "looked aggressive to me," Prince said. Michael Jackson wasn't at home at the time and was probably at rehearsals, Prince said. (AP)
Prince testified that Phillips visited Jackson's rented Los Angeles mansion and spoke aggressively to Dr. Conrad Murray the night before his father's death. "He was grabbing his elbow," Prince said. "It looked aggressive to me. He was grabbing by the back of his elbow and they were really close and he was making hand motions." He couldn't hear what Phillips was saying to Murray, he said. Michael Jackson was not there because he was at his last rehearsal, Prince said. He called his father from the security guard shack telephone to let him know Phillips was there. His father asked him to offer Phillips food and drink. Prince said that was his last conversation with his father. Prince was 12 when the pop icon died, but he said his father confided in him about whom he trusted and didn't trust and what he feared as he prepared for his comeback concerts. (CNN)
[Murray's attorney Valerie Wass and AEG defense attorney Marvin S. Putnam later denied outside court that the meeting Prince described ever happened. Putnam said Prince would be re-called to the witness stand during the defense case later in the trial. "I think as the testimony will show when he is called in our defense that's not what happened," Putnam said. "He was a 12-year-old boy who has had to endure this great tragedy." (AP)]
"From my perspective back then I thought he was healthy," Prince said about MJ. A few weeks later, Prince said MJ was working a lot and looked really, really skinny, almost malnourished. Prince: Sometimes he would be really cold. Sometimes really hot. He was not strong enough. (ABC7) The teen recalled that while preparing for the 2009 tour, his father would sometimes come down the stairs and be "freezing cold" and "not strong enough." Jackson looked "malnourished," his son said. (Today) In June 2009, Prince said his father was acting differently. “He ate by himself a lot,” he said of that time period. Michael Jackson would sometimes come downstairs and complain he was freezing, despite the fact it was summertime, Prince said. Sometimes his father would complain it would be too hot. “His body temperature was up and down,” Prince said. (AP)
Prince said he saw MJ last the day before he died. Last phone conversation was when he called his dad to say Randy Phillips was at the house. (ABC7)
Prince then talked about the day his father died. He said he heard screaming upstairs, then footsteps on the stairs. Prince said he went to see what was going on and saw Murray running back upstairs, then was told by Kai Chase the doctor needed him. Bodyguard Alberto Alvarez ran into the house and Prince said he ran upstairs. “I saw Dr. Conrad doing CPR on my dad,” Prince said. He said his father was hanging halfway off the bed, his eyes rolled back in his head. Paris Jackson was screaming for her dad, Prince said. He said he was crying while all this was going on. He said on the ride to the hospital, he tried to reassure Paris and Blanket by telling that angels were watching over them. Prince said the phrase about angels watching over them was something his father often said. Prince’s eyes were red while he testified about June 25, 2009. He didn't break down. He kept his composure throughout this testimony. Prince said he was optimistic about what would happen with his father, until Conrad Murray came in and told them he was dead. Prince recalls Murray telling him, Paris and Blanket something to the effect of, Sorry kids, dad’s dead. Michael Jackson’s manager, Frank Dileo, was also at the hospital, Prince recalled. (AP)
The day MJ died, Prince recalled being downstairs in the sitting room. He heard screaming coming from upstairs. "I ran into the kitchen, saw Dr. Murray go back upstairs, Alberto just came inside, Kai said Dr Murray wanted me upstairs," Prince described"I saw Dr. Conrad doing CPR on my dad," Prince testified. "My dad was hanging halfway off the bed and his eyes were rolled back in his head". "Me and my sister came upstairs," Prince said. "My sister was screaming the whole time, she wanted her daddy." Kids were escorted downstairs."I was waiting in the bottom of the stairs crying," Prince said. He saw the stretcher take MJ to the hospital. They followed the ambulance."My dad always told us that angels always look out for us," Prince said. He tried to comfort his siblings..Prince said Frank DiLeo and Dr. Murray told them 'sorry kids, dad is dead.' They said it was a heart attack "I just cried," Prince recalled. Sister Rose, my sister, my brother, me, security guard, Dr. Conrad Murray and Frank DiLeo were in the room. (ABC7)
The teenage also for the first time publicly described the day his father died. Prince was summoned to his father's bedroom and saw Murray performing CPR on his father, who was hanging off the bed halfway and it appeared his dad's eyes were rolled up in the back of his head. Prince's eyes appeared red as he described being told by Murray at a nearby hospital that his father was dead. (AP)
On the day of his father's death, Prince Jackson testified that the family chef screamed at him that Murray wanted him upstairs. No employees, except for Murray, were allowed upstairs. "My dad was hanging halfway off the bed and his eyes were rolling back in his head," he testified. "Murray was doing CPR. My sister was screaming the whole time saying she wants her daddy. I was waiting at the bottom of the stairs crying." When they got to the hospital, he told his sister, "Angels were watching over us," and tried to remain optimistic, but then Murray delivered the news that their father had suffered a heart attack. (today)
Prince was then asked about the memorial service in which the children appeared and Paris gave a heartfelt speech about her father. Prince said Paris’ speech was impromptu. “She just grabbed the microphone and started talking,” he said. (AP) Prince said Paris speaking during the memorial service was not planned. (ABC7)
Prince said he now lives with his grandma, cousin Trent, his sister and brother in Calabasas. Prince said they go back to Gary, Indiana for memorial services in the house MJ grew up on. Prince said his grandma Katherine Jackson and cousin TJ are his guardians. (ABC7) "It will never be the same," said the teen who lives with his grandmother, a cousin, and siblings in Calabasas, Calif. (Today)
The court took the morning break, and after that Panish asked Prince about the impact of his father’s death on his life. “Nothing will ever be the same,” Prince said. He said he has a hard time sleeping. He said his father's death had hit Paris especially hard. "She was my dad's princess," he said. He said that he and Paris don't celebrate birthdays anymore. They "wouldn't be the same without him," he said. As for Blanket, Prince said he's not sure he knows what he's lost. He said they're doing best they can as a family. Panish asked: "Do you miss your dad a lot?" Prince: "Yes." (AP)
After MJ died: "I can't sleep at night, have hard time sleeping" Prince said. "For a while, I became emotionally distant from lot of people". Prince said he wished his father was with him 1st day of school, talk about his first girlfriend, being able to drive, see his awards/honors. Panish: Do you think your dad is proud of your robotics work? Prince: Maybe, I tried making him proud. Prince: I think out of my siblings she (Paris) was hit the hardest, she was my dad'd little princess. She's dealing with it in her own way. Panish: Is she going through a rough time? Prince: Yes, she is. "Me and my sister don't celebrate birthdays, it was something we did with our dad," Prince said. Prince: Blanket was so young, my brother is still growing up like I am, he doesn't have a dad to tell him what's right and wrong. "We have someone, but it's just not the same," Prince said. Panish: Do you miss your dad a lot? Prince: Yes (ABC7)
Upon Michael's death, "we had our ways of dealing with it. [Paris] is having a hard time right now," said Prince (Eonline)
"I can't sleep at night," Prince said. "I have a hard time sleeping." The death left him "emotionally distant from a lot of people" for a while, he said. He's missed sharing with his father "the first day of going to school, having the first girlfriend, being able to drive," Prince testified. While Paris Jackson's suicide attempt and hospitalization was not brought up in court -- and it is unclear if jurors learned about it in the news -- Prince did speak about his sister. "I think out of all of my siblings she was probably hit the hardest because she was my dad's princess," he said. Prince said the questioning of Paris by AEG Live lawyers over two days in March was painful for her. "She had some problems before, after and, I assume, during," he said. "She definitely is dealing with it in her own way," her brother said.
Paris, who was 11 when her father died, is not available to testify in person in court because she is hospitalized for psychiatric treatment. While he and his sister no longer want to celebrate birthdays because "it's not the same without" their father, Blanket, now 11, does, Prince said. "Right now, I don't know if Blanket realizes what he lost," he said. "He was so young. He is still growing up just like I am and he doesn't have a father to guide him." (CNN)
AEG Cross
Marvin Putnam, attorney for AEG, did the cross examination.
AEG Live lead lawyer Marvin Putnam's cross-examination of Prince lasted just 25 minutes. It centered on trying to discredit his testimony about Phillips' visit to his home and about cash payments that Prince said his father gave Murray at times. (CNN)
AEG Live defense attorney Marvin S. Putnam did the questioning. He focused on Jackson’s payments to Conrad Murray. Prince said he never saw his dad pay Murray while they lived at Carolwood, but he would give him and his sister money for the doctor. Murray would only take a portion of the stack of $100 bills that Michael Jackson provided, Prince said. Prince: “My understanding is that I don’t think Dr. Conrad didn’t want to take money from my dad because he felt bad.” (AP)
Putnam asked why MJ wouldn't give Dr. Murray money himself. "My dad tried to, but he would've never take the money," Prince said. "I saw my dad offer money to him, but he would never take it," Prince explained. Putnam: Did you father give money to Dr. Murray? Prince: Not directly. Prince: He (MJ) never gave him (Dr. Murray) the cash directly, he would always give it us to give to Dr. Murray. He would only take half."I don't think Dr. Murray wanted to take the money from my dad, he felt bad," Prince said. "Me & my sister would do it," he remembers a couple of times. Prince said in depo it was about 10 times, but Murray would not always take it. Prince said MJ started giving Prince and Paris money to give to Dr. Murray while they were living in Las Vegas. (ABC7) Prince also said his father gave him and his sister Paris a stack of $100 bills on a few occasions to give to Murray. The teen said his father told him that Murray wouldn't take the money from him, and the doctor wouldn't take the full amount from the children. The teenager said his understanding was that the money was meant to tide Murray over until he got paid by AEG Live. (AP)
Prince said there was a man chef who took Kai Chase's job in May 2009, then was let go and Chase went back. (ABC7) Prince was asked about a chef who worked at the Carrolwood mansion for the month Kai Chase was gone, but he didn’t know his name. (AP)
Prince said he didn't remember seeing anyone giving MJ's IV, other than Cherilyn Lee. (ABC7)
Putnam: No employees were allowed upstairs?
Prince: Yes (ABC7)
Prince said none of the household staff were allowed upstairs at the mansion, and the singer kept his bedroom locked while receiving treatments from Murray. (AP)
Prince said there was a time in 2009 no one was allowed to go upstairs. Only Dr. Murray could.
Prince testified that not even the housekeeper was allowed to go upstairs. (ABC7)
Prince said that when Cherilyn Lee was treating MJ, she would do it in the open, there was no door to lock.He said when Dr. Murray started, he also did it in the open. (ABC7)
During cross-examination, Putnam played a clip from a deposition of Prince in which the teen said he discovered the bedroom was locked when he and his siblings were playing hide-and-seek and couldn't get inside. (AP) Prince said he learned MJ's bedroom door was locked when he was playing hide and go seek and couldn't get in. (ABC7) Putnam at one point played some of Prince’s deposition. He described trying to playing hide-and-seek but finding his dad’s bedroom locked. Prince said he assumed that the door was locked when his dad and Conrad Murray were in the room together. (AP)
As to Dr. Tohme, Prince said he knew him for about 3 years. He said he never regularly saw him, though. (ABC7)
Prince said he saw Murray and Phillips talking two times. He doesn't remember dates, but thinks the 2nd meeting was the day before MJ died. (ABC7) Prince stood by his story about the Phillips and Murray encounter, although he conceded it could have been two nights before his father's death and not the last night. (CNN)
Putnam showed Prince another portion of his deposition in which he said he talked to his dad the morning after the Phillips/Murray meeting. That would rule out June 24th as the day of the tense exchange, but Prince said today he was unclear on which day the exchange happened. (AP)
Putnam asked Prince about how people got let into Jackson’s mansion, and the teenager dropped a zinger. Prince: “People from AEG, they got let in, but people like my grandpa would get turned away.” (AP) Prince said security would let AEG people and Dr. Tohme in, but "people like my grandpa were turned away." (ABC7)
Jackson redirect
Panish took over questioning again, and he asked Prince about his deposition. It took place on a Saturday, but had to be interrupted. There was a lot of back-and-forth about how long the deposition actually lasted. Then he moved on to another question. (AP)
Prince said in re-direct he wasn't scared during his deposition, apologized to the jury for not wear suit that day; it was the weekend. (ABC7)
After his deposition, Prince said he told TJ that Paris shouldn't be able to do that and go through the questioning."She had some problems before, after and I assuming during her deposition," Prince said.
Panish: She had some emotional problems after her deposition?
Prince: Yes (ABC7)
Prince said Dr. Murray wasn't getting paid and that his dad wanted to help him out until he got paid."AEG was supposed to pay him," Prince said. "Something was going on with Dr. Murray's finance and he wasn't getting paid." (ABC7)
Prince remembered Cherilyn Lee being a nurse. Panish asked if Prince knew what Lee was injecting MJ with."I thought it was for my dad, so he could get the proteins he needed, he was burning so much," Prince responded. (ABC7)
Panish: “Have you ever gone through anything in your whole life like the loss of your father?” Prince: “No.” (AP)
AEG recross
In re-cross, Putnam asked why deposition was on Saturday. Prince said he thinks it was due to school; continued another day.
Putnam: Do you remember your grandma thanking us for being so accommodating?
Prince: I don't remember that (ABC7)
Jackson redirect
Panish: Did you think he was being a lawyer representing his client?
Prince: As a defense lawyer, yes
"It's not how I want to spend my Saturday," Price said about his deposition. (ABC7)
Putnam asked a few more questions about the deposition, Panish asked Prince about his impressions of Putnam and they were done. (AP)
Prince was then excused, subject to recall should AEG choose
[Prince is done testifying. After he left the witness stand, he hugged plaintiff's attorney Deborah Chang. Prince also went over and shook AEG defense attorney Marvin Putnam's hand. Chang sounded like she told him about Prince's grades. (AP)]
Former AEG Inc. CEO and president Tim Leiweke video deposition
(source : all of the below is from ABC7)
Leiweke was the highest employee in the company in 2009. He said they have 130 different companies, 7-8 divisions within AEG.
Kevin Boyle: Are you aware the LA Kings have a team physician?
Leiweke: I would assume we do
"I'm not sure who hires the doctors for the Kings," Leiweke said.
Boyle: Do the doctors work for the team or for the players?
Leiweke: I'm not sure
Leiweke said he didn't remember the email Phillips sent him saying "MJ is locked in his room drunk and despondent.""I got a call from Randy Phillips about the press conference," Leiweke staid. However, he insisted he didn't remember the email."I said that five times, is that good enough?" Leiweke responded.Leiweke said Phillips called to say Michael had a hangover, they were late to get to the press conference and Randy was wound up.A subsequent conversation, everyone had calmed down, Leiweke said. "He was informing me that the press conference was going to be delayed" Leiweke said he was in an important meeting and asked Phillips to fill him in later.
"I knew Randy had production costs issues," Leiweke said. Leiweke didn't remember the exact number they had overspent.Leiweke didn't remember a specific board meeting where Phillips Anschutz was present and the tour budget was the sole topic.
Leiweke said he met Dr. Tohme once or twice in passing. He said he didn't remember ever having a meeting with Dr. Tohme about MJ.
"I remember it was an expensive commitment he as asking us to make," Leiweke said about the This Is It tour."We wanted to make sure that he was healthy," Leiweke said. "I believe our folks had a medical for the purpose of MJ and his health."
Boyle: Did you ever refer to Mr. Anschutz as paranoid scrooge?
Leiweke: I don't remember any specific conversation
Boyle asked if Mr. Anschutz was concerned with ticket scalping. "There had never been in AEG Live anyone scalping tickets" Leiweke responded. "Mr. Anschutz is very tight," Leiweke said. "I don't remember this email but I remember him being concerned tickets were being scalped."
Leiweke met Michael Jackson in person either 4 or 5 times."Michael wanted to tour," Leiweke said about the first meeting. "AEG Live was interested."Second time was in the guest house of Ron Burkle in Los Angeles. Jessie Jackson was there too, Leiweke said.
Boyle: What was the reason of the meeting?
Leiweke: There wasn't really one. We prayed a lot
"Michael asked to meet Mr. Anschutz to talk about films," Leiweke said about the third meeting in Las Vegas.
Leiweke said he never met Murray and/or exchanged emails, calls with him. The exec didn't remember specifically the 1st time he heard of him. Leiweke testified he never saw or heard the name Dr. Murray on pretour budgets.
"I've never seen this email between Randy and Kenny," Leiweke said about the 'Trouble at the Front' email chain.Boyle said the chain was forwarded to Leiweke. The exec apologized and said he doesn't remember ever seeing the emails."We were aware that MJ had missed several rehearsals," Leiweke said.Leiweke wrote email saying "Trouble with MJ. Big Trouble." He testified he didn't remember this specific email.
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Tomorrow's witnesses: TJ and Taj Jackson. Jackson's attorney told us they aren't sure if Paris will testify. It's up to her doctor to ok it
Zusammenfassung von Ivy, MJJC #40
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Zusammenfassungen der vorangegangenen gerichtstage:
Day 1 - anträge u. eröffnungsstatements
Day 2 - anhörung und zeugen Senneff u. Martinez
Day 3 - forts. zeuge Martinez u. anhörung
Day 4 - forts. zeuge Martinez
Day 5 - zeugen Anderson und Rogers
Day 6 - zeuge Dr. Wohlgelernter
Day 7 - zeugin Sankey
Day 8 - zeugin Faye
Day 9 - forts. zeugin Faye
Day 10 - zeugen Walker, Rogers, Payne
Day 11 - forts. zeuge Payne
Day 12 - zeugin Hollander
Day 13 - M. Hom videodeposition, forts. zeugin Hollander
Day 14 - forts. zeugin Hollander; zeuge Trell
Day 14 fortsetzung - forts. zeuge Trell
Day 16 - forts. zeuge Trell
Day 17 - forts. zeuge Trell
Day 18 - zeuge Gongaware
Day 19 - forts. zeuge Gongaware
Day 20 - forts. zeuge Gongaware
Day 21 - forts. zeuge Gongaware
Day 22 - forts. zeuge Gongaware
Day 23 - forts. zeuge Gongaware; zeuge R. Phillips
Day 24 - forts. zeuge Phillips
Day 25 - forts. zeuge Phillips
Day 26 - forts. zeuge Phillips
Day 27 - forts. zeuge Phillips
Day 28 - forts. zeuge Phillips
Day 29 - forts. zeuge Phillips
Day 30 - forts. zeuge Phillips
Day 31 - zeuge Berman
Day 32 - zeugin Chase
Day 33 - forts. zeugin Chase; videodeposition Dr. Earley
Day 34 - zeuge Dr. Czeisler
Day 35 - forts. zeuge Dr. Czeisler
Day 36 - forts. Dr. Earley video depo
Day 37 - Dr. Matheson
Originaldokumente eröffnungsstatements u.a. (MJJC #1 ff.)
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noch etwas über die Aussagen von Prince und was so an Material gezeigt wurde
unten sieht man auch noch ein Video, das an Weihnachten 2008, also das letzte Fest zusammen mit seinen Kindern, aufgenommen wurde
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Diese E-Mail von Karen Faye an Frank Dileo, geschrieben am 22. Juni 2009 findet man auf Panishs Anwaltwebseite.
Die Mail am 22. Juni 2009 von Karen Faye zeigt, dass sie Michael für den einzigen verantwortlichen hält für die Situation, die vorherrscht und die Leute drumherum machtlos zusehen müssen wie sich Michael selbst zerstört und die Leute gegeneinander ausspielt und das Projket kaputt macht, etwas was sie schon oft bei ihm erlebt hat. Es zeigt wahrlich keine Frau, die einen Frank Dileo, R. Philipps oder andere vergeblich angefleht hat Michael zu helfen.
Die deutsche Zusammenfassung habe ich aus dem Forever von @Dancerübernommen
Frank DiLeo ("Tookie" ist sein Spitzname) vom 22.Juni 2009.
http://www.psblaw.com/wp-content/uploads…Depo-Ex-101.pdf
Sie leitet offensichtlich eine der besorgten Fan-Mails an DiLeo weiter und schreibt dazu an DiLeo:
Sie sende sie ihm, damit er einen Schritt voraus sei (also eher Bescheid wisse) : Michael berichte Fans von seinem schwachen Zustand und dass er nicht in der Lage sei, 50 Shows zu machen. Es scheine, dass er sich selbst als das Opfer darstelle. Sie sehe dieses Muster wieder einmal bei seinen care takers (caretaker heißt eigentlich Hausmeister, Verwalter, Betreuer - ich nehm mal an, sie meint damit seine "Arbeitgeber"?), er benutze sie um sein Leben zu finanzieren und ziehe weiter, wenn er seine Versprechungen nicht erfüllen könne. Sie sage nicht, dass er anfangs nicht vorhabe, seine Verpfichtungen zu erfüllen, sie spekuliere nur, dass er vor wie Angst gelähmt sei. Deshalb denke sie, Therapie sei das wichtigste, damit er Erfolg haben könne.
Im Mai habe sie einen schlanken, aber starken Michael gesehen. Es tue ihr weh, so viele Menschen investieren in seinen Erfolg und glauben an ihn, und dann müsse sie sehen, wie er sich selbst zerstöre. Sie habe mit eigenen Augen gesehen, wie er innerhalb eines Monats körperlich abgebaut habe. Das habe sie in der Beziehung mit ihm mehrmals gesehen.
Er wende Menschen gegeneinander, die doch so hart arbeiten, um ihm zu helfen. Sie wünsche sich nichts mehr als dass er und seine Kunst weiter blühen, nicht nur für ihn selbst und die Geschichte, sondern auch für seine Kinder. Er verletze sich selbst am meisten.
Sie liebe ihn wie einen Bruder und bete, dass Frank Recht habe damit, dass er alles unter Kontrolle habe, sie vertraue Frank und mache sich auch um ihn Gedanken, sie glaube, dass Frank, Randy und Kenny es nicht verdienen würden, die Schurken zu sein, oder die finanziellen Opfer/Leidtragenden. Sie denke jeder verdiene den Erfolg. Sie alle müssten zu jeder Zeit am gleichen Strang ziehen. Auch Frank würde nicht wollen, dass er vor Hunderttausenden von Menschen zusammenbreche, er habe ja jetzt schon für viele Zeugen gesorgt.
Er sei schmerzlich dünn, die Knochen stünden hervor. Sie habe tgl. körperlichen Kontakt zu ihm. Seine OCD werde schlimmer. Er wiederhole sich ständig abschweifend und die Worte passten nicht zum Gespräch. Sie sehe, dass Travis kämpfe und erschöpft sei und während der Proben Michaels Part übernehme. Er sei (bei den Konzerten dann) über dem Publikum im Cherry Picker und er klettere hoch, dabei könne er nicht die Rampe ohne Hilfe heruntergehen. Kenny habe die weibl. Tänzerin gebeten, ihm zu helfen beim Verlassen der Bühne.
Dies (diese Mail) sei eine Sache zwischen Frank und ihr. Sie überlasse es ihm, so wie er sie instruiert habe. Sie bekomme viele ähnliche Mails von Fans. Michael gebe es an seine Fans weiter. Auch habe er verschiedene Fans in die Culver City Studios mitgebracht und sie hätten die vorstehenden Knochen an seinem Rücken gesehen, als er ein Kleidungsstück anprobierte, das sie ihm mitgebracht hättenZuletzt geändert von Lena; 27.06.2013, 09:02.
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Putnam sagt, das Prince wieder einberufen wird, wenn die Verteidigung zum späteren Zeitpunkt den Fall präsentiert. "Ich denke wie das Zeugnis zeigen wird, wenn er in unserer Verteidigung berufen wird, dass dies nicht passiert ist.", sagt Putnam. (Phillps Ellbogencrabsch mit Murray) "Er war 12 Jahre und hat eine große Tragödie erlebt."
Prince sagte zudem aus, dass er gesehen hat wie Murray CPR machte und sein Vater halb aus dem Bett hing. Es erschien seine Augen waren nach hinten in den Kopf gerollt." Prince Augen erschienen rot als er sich daran erinnerte, dass Murray ihm im Krankenhaus sagte sein Vater wäre tot.
Prince sagte, er sah nie Behandlungen von Murray an seinem Vater.
"Ich war 12. Es war mein Verständnis, dass er meinen Vater gesund hielt."
Prince sagte aus, dass Schlafzimmer war verschlossen während der Behandlungen von Murray und das kein Hauspersonal nach oben durfte. Im Cross zeigte Putnam ein Video von Prince aus der Depostion wo er sagte, dass er entdeckte beim Versteckenspiel mit den Geschwistern, dass die Schlafzimmertür verschlossen war und sie nicht reinkamen.
Prince sagte auch, dass sein Vater ihm und seiner Schwester einen Haufen $ 100 bills gab bei mehreren Gelegenheiten um sie Murray zu geben. Prince sagte sein Vater sagte Murray würde das Geld nicht von ihm nehmen und er würde (oder nahm?) nicht den vollen Betrag von den Kindern. Prince sagte es sei sein Verständnis das dies zur Überbrückung war bis AEG Murray zahlte.
Putnam said Prince would be re-called to the witness stand during the defense case later in the trial.
"I think as the testimony will show when he is called in our defense that's not what happened," Putnam said. "He was a 12-year-old boy who has had to endure this great tragedy."
For the first time, the teenage publicly provided details about the day his father died. Prince testified that he saw Murray performing CPR on his father, who was hanging halfway off a bed. It appeared his dad's eyes were rolled up in the back of his head, Prince told jurors.
Prince's eyes appeared red as he recalled being told by Murray at a hospital that his father was dead.
Prince said he never saw Murray's treatments of his father.
"I was 12. To my understanding he was supposed to make sure my dad stayed healthy," Prince testified.
Prince said none of the household staff were allowed upstairs at the mansion, and the singer kept his bedroom locked while receiving treatments from Murray.
During cross-examination, Putnam played a clip from a deposition of Prince in which the teen said he discovered the bedroom was locked when he and his siblings were playing hide-and-seek and couldn't get inside.
Prince also said his father gave him and his sister Paris a stack of $100 bills on a few occasions to give to Murray. The teen said his father told him that Murray wouldn't take the money from him, and the doctor wouldn't take the full amount from the children.
The teenager said his understanding was that the money was meant to tide Murray over until he got paid by AEG Live.
Prince's grandmother, Katherine Jackson, sat in the front row of the courtroom during his testimony. She held a tissue and removed her glasses several times.
The testimony began with the teenager showing jurors roughly 15 minutes of private family photos and home videos.
He described growing up on Neverland Ranch and showed the panel videos of the property's petting zoos, amusement park and other amenities. After his father's acquittal of child molestation charges, Prince described living in the Middle East, Ireland and Las Vegas.
He told the jury that his father was always working, but the children had no idea he was a global superstar.
"We always listened to his music, but we never knew how famous he was," Prince said.
He said he and his sister Paris watched a video of one of their father's performances and got a sense of his fame when overwhelmed fans were carried from his shows on stretchers.
Prince is the first Jackson family member to testify during the trial, now in its ninth week. Attorneys have said TJ Jackson, who serves a co-guardian to Prince and his siblings, and Taj Jackson, are also expected to take the witness stand. They are the sons of Tito Jackson.
Prince Jackson, his sister Paris and brother Blanket are plaintiffs in the case against AEG, which their grandmother and primary caretaker filed in August 2010.
Prince spoke softly as he began testifying, and the first exhibit shown to jurors was a photo taken with his grandmother on his and Paris' first day of school.
He described his school life, including taking a summer course in U.S. history, participating on the school robotics team and volunteer work.
Another image showed Michael Jackson playing piano with his son while Prince was still a toddler.
Plaintiffs' attorney Brian Panish asked Prince whether he was interested in pursuing a career in music.
"I can never play an instrument and I definitely cannot sing," Prince said to laughter from the jury.
He said he wanted to study film or business when he goes to college.
The trial is expected to last several more weeks.
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Anthony McCartney can be reached at http://twitter.com/mccartneyAPZuletzt geändert von Lena; 26.06.2013, 22:41.
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Jacksons vs AEG - Day 37 – June 25 2013 – Summary
Katherine Jackson was in court
Source : all of the below is from ABC7.
Dr. Gordon Matheson
Jackson direct
Bloss asked about email from Phillips to Ortega on June 20. Phillips was recognizing the decline of Jackson's health, Dr. Matheson opined. "It's also evident that there are conflict of interest issues," Dr. Matheson expressed. About Phillips saying 'The doctor is successful, completely unbiased.' Dr. Matheson said that tells exec was aware of conflict of interest. Matheson opined the email demonstrates “pushback” - Not good for a producer or team owner to be involved directly with the player or artist. As to email "he was shaking, couldn’t cut food, no shape to go on stage” Dr Matheson reacted: "It's indication health concern is serious".
Dr. Matheson - “First and foremost we want an understanding of what the problem is. That is what leads us to the proper treatment.” Dr. Matheson said Phillips was trying to diagnose the problem, yet Jackson was being put back in rehearsal; that is a concern. As to Phillips saying "Take the doctor with you", Dr. Matheson said it means AEG wanted to have some input, influence in the meeting. "It would have been inappropriate, shows AEG still wanted to manage the doctors decision," Dr. Matheson testified.
As to 'Trouble at the Front' email where Phillips says Dr. Murray 'is not a psychiatrist so I am not sure how effective he can be..." Dr. Matheson: It says Phillips is not sure, first says it's covered, then he questions doctors effectiveness. Dr. Matheson said emails showed it was business as usual, continued pushback. Kenny’s hysteria is in check. Dr. Matheson said Phillips put forth information regarding a health problem with MJ, qualified by Ortega hysteria. Dr. Matheson: When you get information, you need to act on that information rather than label it as hysteria.
Bloss asked if an athlete doesn’t want to get out of the game, what should a doctor do. "The role of the physician is to make the right decision for the short term and the long term," Dr. Matheson said. "May have to do it over the objection of the player," Dr. Matheson explained.
Bloss: Does the fact that AEG hired Dr. Murray at the behest of MJ make a difference?
Dr. Matheson: AEG chose to set up that structure and they didn’t have to do that
Bloss: How about the fact AEG would be repaid through the proceeds of the tour?
Dr Matheson: The conflict of the interest is still present
Dr. Matheson: Although we expect all professionals to act in the best interests of the patient, their judgement is often affected.
AEG cross
AEG's attorney Jessica Stebbins Bina did re-cross of Dr Matheson. Bina asked if Stanford reviewed his credit prior to his hire. He said no.
Bina: In general a 50 year old man is competent to chose his personal physician?
Dr. Matheson: Yes
Bina: Dr. Murray was just going to treat MJ and family, not Kenny Ortega or others on tour?
Dr. Matheson: Yes
Bina: It was everyone’s interest to play the entire show?
Dr. Matheson: Yes
Bina asked if Dr. Matheson is an expert in general medical ethics. He answered no.
Dr. Matheson explained plaintiffs chose him because there was a 3 way relationship analogous to the sports industry. Dr. Matheson reviewed Det. Martinez' testimony, half of Mr. Phillips' testimony (3 days), Kai Chaise and Travis Payne's testimony.
Bina: You are not an expert in the concert industry?
Dr. Matheson: No.
B: Never worked in entertainment industry?
Dr. M: No
Bina: You said it's the system's responsibility, but it's physician's responsibility to place the patients welfare first?
Dr Matheson: Yes
"If conflict of interest develops, it must be resolved to the patient's interest," Dr. Matheson opined; doctors have duty to patient.
Bina: If MJ demanded propofol, begged, Dr. Murray violated his duties? Assuming he did that, did he violate his duties?
Dr. Matheson: Yes
Bina: Average Medical school grad has $200,000 in debt
Dr. Matheson: Yes. Just to become a doctor is expensive
"No injuries are expected in performance as in typical team sports," Dr. Matheson said. "The physician's concerns are not going to be the same as treating a football player," Dr. Matheson explained.
Bina: Was MJ able to consent to that relationship?
Dr. Matheson: Yes, but signature line put him in contract as a participant
Bina: The only way to structure a deal would be to give $1.5 million up front?
Dr. Matheson: Should structure deal so termination and cancellation are not incorporated in deal
Bina: Do you know how the deal for Celine Dion’s doctor is structured? Or Rolling Stones?
Dr. Matheson: No
Bina: If you were setting up a tour in Europe, what would you sent up for ethical arrangement?
Dr. Matheson: I would set up a staff, conduct a comprehensive medical assessment
"Ethically you'd want an assessment of the artist," Dr. Matheson said. "It would require a team of people because there are various aspects". That is for assessment initially, Dr. Matheson explained. "Then for the tour I would hire a team of people to provide care during the tour." Dr. Matheson: I would get people who have expertise in a particular area, develop a particular group in London.
Bina: A group only?
Dr. Matheson: It is hard to imagine only one person.
Bina asked if MJ told AEG he'd want to bring his personal doctor on tour, what should AEG have done. Dr. Matheson: AEG should have said we are not experts in medical care so we want to get experts in medical care to make an assessment.
Bina: Would that eliminate the conflict of interest?
Dr. Matheson: It would minimize conflict of interest
"I found the lawyers to be very supportive of evaluating records and making my own decisions," Dr. Matheson said.
Bina: Is it fair to say that you are making more money because you agree with the plaintiffs?
Dr. Matheson: I don’t need this job
Bina: What if AEG just fronts $34 million?
Dr. Matheson: Dr. Conrad Murray would be still conflicted
"Dr. Murray would still be beholden to AEG," Dr. Matheson opined.
Dr. Matheson: My understanding is that Murray's treatment was episodic not regular.
Bina talked about May 2009 and asked if people were concerned about MJ's health. Dr. Matheson: "I don’t know if people had concerns about his health. I think people had concerns about the show."
Bina: If MJ said I want to bring my long term doctor on board, your opinion is that AEG should have said No you cannot?
Dr. Matheson: Yes
Bina: Are you aware of Gongaware's testimony on effort to get MJ to agree to London doctor but MJ saying no. AEG should not have done that?
Dr. Matheson: No. I wouldn’t. The conflict of interest is too high
Bina: Even when you believe the artist is healthy?
Dr. Matheson: It creates a risk
Bina: Is it possible to have doctor ethically go on tour with artist?
Dr. Matheson: It's possible if the conditions are right
"I don't think it's possible under the terms of this case," Dr. Matheson said.
"The greater the conflict, the increased likelihood of bad decisions will be made," Dr. Matheson opined. "He had a choice,"Dr. Matheson said. "That choice may have been to forfeit his job."
Bina: If I pay for my health care by credit care, does the credit card has the right of dictating my health care?
Dr. Matheson: No
Dr. Matheson said he's spent 100 hours on this case. He's making $500/hour, which adds up to $50k so far.
Dr. Murray's contract said 'Perform the Services reasonably requested by Producer.' Bina said the contract was supposed to read "by Artist". Dr. Matheson said if there was no reference to service requested by AEG, that sentence wouldn't be part of his opinion. "To me, this is a document that indicates what the intention was," Dr. Matheson said.
Dr. Matheson said he had to fill out a lot of forms and take a test to obtain his license in the US. Dr. Matheson is originally from Canada.
Agreement required Dr. Murray to have malpractice insurance.
Bina: Isn't the real problem in this case not Dr. Murray's feelings towards AEG, but that he gave in to Michael Jackson?
Dr. Matheson: That's part of the conflict, yes
Bina: There's nothing wrong with concert promoter to ask if there was anything they can do to help?
Dr. Matheson: Not if used those terms
Conflict of interest happened if there was influence on decision making, Dr. Matheson explained.
Bina: So you think it's appropriate for producer to dictate MJ's care?
Dr. Matheson: Phillips was the one receiving the information
Bina: But, presumably, MJ went home his doctor, right?
Dr. Matheson: There's no record of that
Bina: Do you think Mr. Phillips has the right to question MJ's health?
Dr. Matheson: Phillips has the right to say I'm concerned with your health, you can't come back to rehearsal until you're checked out.
"We want you to see a doctor before you come back," Dr. Matheson said Phillips could have told. If Jackson denied it, they should have had a discussion about it, Dr. Matheson opined. Dr. Matheson said he wasn't suggesting Phillips forced MJ to go to their doctor, but they could've taken him to ER for another set of eyes.
If MJ was severely stressed about the tour, Dr. Matheson said the producers have to listen to artist. "The artist knows their body better." Murray said he had the situation under control. The issue was that he wasn't reliable, Dr Matheson explained; he was very heavily conflicted. "Conflict of interest contributed in a very significant way in Dr. Murray's standard of care," Dr. Matheson opined. "Conflict of interest was set up, physical symptoms appeared and there was an attempt to control those," Dr. Matheson explained.
"Likely that was not a friendly meeting, that was a confrontational meeting," Dr. Matheson said about meeting where Dr. Murray left angry. Dr. Matheson:
The concern should be for the artist's health. Dr. Matheson: Any time symptoms are brought forward, there's a need to be paid attention to. In this case they weren't.
Dr. Matheson said he reviewed other depositions with exhibits attached prior to his own deposition. As to Dr. Finkelstein, Dr. Matheson said he recalls Gongaware discussed possibility of doctor going on the tour with a couple of conditions.
Dr. Matheson said he doesn't believe the analogy Bina offered regarding credit card paying for your health care is related to this case.
"It's hard to leave a practice," Dr. Matheson said. He said it takes a long time to build the practice, normally doctors sells the practice. Dr. Matheson said it takes much more than 10 days to wind down a busy practice.
"A conflict of interest isn't a single event," Dr. Matheson testified. "It's a set of circumstances that develop over a period of time."
Dr. Matheson said he was not aware of any efforts to send Dr. Murray's contract drafts to MJ's people. "It says to me the agreement was being constructed and negotiated without Mr. Jackson's input," Dr. Matheson opined. "It was effectively put in place and the doctor was engaged whether Mr. Jackson signed it or not," Dr. Matheson explained. "I believe AEG indicated, the record indicates AEG acted in way they felt they employed Dr. Murray," Dr. Matheson said. "The conflict of interest environment in this case was severe," Dr. Matheson opined. He's been in this field for 35 years.
Bloss: How many as severe as the one here?
Dr. Matheson: None
Dr. Matheson said the record shows Dr. Finkelstein didn't get the job because MJ wanted to bring his own physician.
Bina: It wasn't in Dr. Murray's interest to keep MJ unhealthy
Dr. Matheson: No
As to Dr. Murray buying Propofol, Dr. Matheson said "I think AEG Live enabled it, yes."
"Conflict of interest erodes judgement unconsciously in a way you're not even aware of it," Dr. Matheson explained.
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Prince, TJ and Taj Jackson will be the next witnesses.
Zusammenfassung von Ivy, MJJC #39
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Zusammenfassungen der vorangegangenen gerichtstage:
Day 1 - anträge u. eröffnungsstatements
Day 2 - anhörung und zeugen Senneff u. Martinez
Day 3 - forts. zeuge Martinez u. anhörung
Day 4 - forts. zeuge Martinez
Day 5 - zeugen Anderson und Rogers
Day 6 - zeuge Dr. Wohlgelernter
Day 7 - zeugin Sankey
Day 8 - zeugin Faye
Day 9 - forts. zeugin Faye
Day 10 - zeugen Walker, Rogers, Payne
Day 11 - forts. zeuge Payne
Day 12 - zeugin Hollander
Day 13 - M. Hom videodeposition, forts. zeugin Hollander
Day 14 - forts. zeugin Hollander; zeuge Trell
Day 14 fortsetzung - forts. zeuge Trell
Day 16 - forts. zeuge Trell
Day 17 - forts. zeuge Trell
Day 18 - zeuge Gongaware
Day 19 - forts. zeuge Gongaware
Day 20 - forts. zeuge Gongaware
Day 21 - forts. zeuge Gongaware
Day 22 - forts. zeuge Gongaware
Day 23 - forts. zeuge Gongaware; zeuge R. Phillips
Day 24 - forts. zeuge Phillips
Day 25 - forts. zeuge Phillips
Day 26 - forts. zeuge Phillips
Day 27 - forts. zeuge Phillips
Day 28 - forts. zeuge Phillips
Day 29 - forts. zeuge Phillips
Day 30 - forts. zeuge Phillips
Day 31 - zeuge Berman
Day 32 - zeugin Chase
Day 33 - forts. zeugin Chase; videodeposition Dr. Earley
Day 34 - zeuge Dr. Czeisler
Day 35 - forts. zeuge Dr. Czeisler
Day 36 - forts. Dr. Earley video depo
Originaldokumente eröffnungsstatements u.a. (MJJC #1 ff.)
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Jacksons vs AEG - Day 36 – June 24 2013 – Summary
Katherine Jackson was in court.
Dr. Paul Earley video deposition (continued)
Early is an addiction medicine expert. He is an AEG -retained expert, but Katherine Jackson’s lawyers are playing his deposition. AEG’s attorneys say they expect to call Dr. Early to the stand later in the case. (AP)
Kevin Boyle: Do you think Demerol addiction caused MJ's death? Dr. Earley: I do not (ABC7)
Dr. Earley opined that benzodiazepines alone were not the cause of MJ's death, but the synergy with propofol was fatal. After reviewing MJ's medical record, Dr. Earley opined: "There's evidence of addiction to opioids dating back to early 1990s." However, Dr. Earley said he didn't think there was sufficient data to reach a conclusive opinion about MJ being addicted to Propofol. Opioids dependency start when they're used, Dr. Earley explained. He said the single largest contributor is genetic. It matters whether your parents had substance abuse or dependency disorder, but not true in 100 percent of the cases, Dr. Earley said. Other contributing factors for opioid dependency: psychological issues, early life trauma, access to drug, alcohol abuse. (ABC7)
Dr. Earley said Michael was a man whose reputation, skills, wonder exceeded 99% of the people in the planet, so it was hard to say no to him. "I'd like to say I wouldn't have done what other doctors did" Dr. Earley testified. "Prescribing MJ's Propofol ultimately caused his death". (ABC7)
Dr. Earley conducted a case study with 22 Propofol dependent individuals. The study was funded by AEG Live. Dr. Earley said the withdrawal of Propofol can cause depression, insomnia and irritability. Dr. Earley: MJ most likely had some baseline insomnia, which was worsen by the use of benzodiazepine and Propofol use. "When you take away the Propofol, you have insomnia," Dr. Earley explained. People can be irritable, don't have chills, some had seizures. (ABC7)
Dr. Earley: Chills is very generic symptom and could mean anything: flu, cold, low blood sugar, lots of different reasons people have chills. (ABC7)
Dr. Earley: Discontinuing opioids cold turkey is not life threatening, it can be done. Before we had detox drug, that's what I would do. Dr. Earley explained the current practice to treat opioid dependency is to use a drug called buprenorphine (suboxone). "I saw evidence MJ was treated with buprenorphine, I think by doctor Saunders," Dr. Earley said, but couldn't remember the dates. Dr. Earley said he did not see any record that Dr. Murray treated MJ with suboxone. (ABC7)
"When people are addicted to Propofol, you just stop it," Dr. Earley said. "Discontinuing it is not life threatening." Occasionally, Dr. Earley had to give sedative drugs because patients are agitated and irritable. (ABC7)
"Benzodiazepine requires cautious, careful taper," Dr. Earley said. Some individuals are very sensitive, it's very difficult to get off." Detox is difficult, slow but safe and preferred. "I don't make my medical decisions based on corporate decision," Dr. Earley testified.( ABC7)
"MJ was taking opioids for a prolonged period of time," Dr. Earley said, which decreased his prognosis. (ABC7)
Dr. Earley: His legendary status caused people to, unfortunately, set aside boundaries. Also, the fact MJ was providing financial resources to family made it harder for an intervention, Dr. Earley opined. MJ was extremely secretive regarding his style, would not talk about drug use to all physicians treating him, Dr. Earley testified. Dr. Earley said if he were to treat MJ, he would have tried to understand if family could stand behind him not obtaining drugs. He would also explain the need for prolonged period of rehab, more than 3 months and less than year treatment. Dr Earley would prescribe naltrexone, alternative ways to manage pain. He would close down access to opioid, contact every doctor, pharmacy. Dr. Earley said he would've given MJ skills called drug refusal, unearth tragic secrecy surrounding his life, which contributed to his death. Dr. Earley testified he saw no evidence the family gave MJ drugs."I'm completely clear his family wanted nothing but to help him." One intervention failed because Michael Jackson appeared quite healthy, Dr. Earley said. "The problem comes from the issue of power," the expert testified. "It's much more difficult to treat a patriarch than the patriarch's son." Dr Earley: I'm not inferring the family was getting/giving him drugs. There's zero evidence of that, they wanted nothing but the best 4 him. (ABC7)
"Addiction is a biological disease, once it gets going overrides a lot of decision making," Dr. Earley explained. (ABC7)
Boyle: Was MJ's death all his own fault? Dr. Earley: I dedicated my career to take care of addicted people in this planet.
Dr. Earley: I will stand strongly against someone saying it was the addict's fault.
Dr. Earley: I will stand strongly against someone saying it was the addict's fault.
Dr. Earley: However, it doesn't mean addict doesn't have to take charge of recovery at some point
"No, I don't believe it's proper to blame the addict," Dr. Earley expressed. (ABC7)
"There was secrecy, hiding, one doctor not talking to another, that's the kind of stuff we saw," Dr. Earley said. (ABC7)
Dr. Earley testified some people can overcome addiction with very little initial motivation. Dr Earley: Everyone gets motivation from different source. Some by professional reasons, other by family, getting their pride/name back. Dr Earley: Universally was stated in the record MJ's dedication/compassion to his children, wanting the best for them, desire to be good dad. Dr. Earley said he remembered some statements in the record that MJ wanted his children to see him perform, wanted to be a good parent. (ABC7)
"Addiction memory is a expression I coined," Dr. Earley said. "The brain learns automatically how to maintain the addiction." "Unfortunately, doctors became a source of drugs for him," Dr. Earley opined. "Having doctor with him, prescription pad, was dangerous." (ABC7)
Dr. Earley: I saw nothing on the record showing that in the last two months of his life any doctor, but Dr. Murray, gave him PropofolDr Earley: Being around physicians triggered drug craving inadvertently and power was inverted. MJ was in the power seat cause of his status. (ABC7)
That concluded Dr. Earley's video deposition
Dr. Gordon Matheson, a conflict of interest specialist, Jacksons expert.
Jackson direct
Matheson is an expert in sports doctors and conflicts of interest. He teaches at Stanford University and is a team physician. Matheson is a Canadian and was educated there. He started out as a doctor in Inuit communities and has been at Stanford for 19 years. Part of Dr. Matheson’s work is to work with Stanford athletes, keeping them healthy. He’s also been team physician for NHL’s Canucks. He also served as the team physician for the Canadian hockey team for 8 years. Fun fact from Dr. Matheson: Stanford as won 2 ½ times as many Olympic gold medals as the country of Canada, he said. (AP)
Dr. Matheson is a physician, works at Stanford University, Professor in the School of Medicine, sports medicine. Dr. Matheson work splits between teaching, research and medical care. He has written about 150 articles for professional publications. Sports medicine is the care of athlete involved in competitive endeavors and physical activity, nutrition and health, Dr. Matheson explained. Dr. Matheson was recruited to Stanford to take care of their sports medicine program and their athletes. He has worked with Canadian hockey team, Olympic games as medical officer and looked after university teams prior to Stanford. (ABC7)
He explained what a conflict of interest is in the sports medicine world. He said it’s when there are 3 interested parties in medical care. He said in sports medicine, there may be conflicts between the patient, the doctor and the coach or team administrator, agents, etc. Matheson said financial gain is one potential conflict of interest, but so are reputation, status, recognition. (AP)
"In clinical practice it's you and patient," Dr. Matheson said. "But in team practice you have 3 way parties: patients, coach, agent, etc". "The minute you have a three way party there may be conflict of interest," Dr. Matheson opined. (ABC7)
Dr. Matheson said conflict of interest is circumstances that create risks that decisions may be unduly influenced for secondary interest. "When someone stands to gain, it stands to affect their decision-making," Dr. Matheson explained. (ABC7)
Dr. Matheson worked with former Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice at Stanford in the conflict of interest area. Dr. Matheson said Dr. Rice loved football, and her quote was that if she were a man, she would play football. (ABC7)
Dr. Matheson never testified as a witness before. He's been paid $500/hour, got information with colleagues on what to charge. (ABC7) Matheson, who has never been an expert witness, said he is being paid $500 an hour. (AP)
Dr Matheson never worked in music industry but said one of the most obvious relations between sports/musicians is the 3 way party scenario. "I think Mr. Jackson's performance was highly physical, similar to what an athlete does," Dr. Matheson expressed. (ABC7)
He said assuming that Dr. Murray was hired by AEG Live, it appears there was a conflict of interest in his care of Michael Jackson. Part of that conflict was created by Murray's debts and his expected $150k/mo. payday. Another conflict source was his contract w/ AEG. Matheson said since the contract allowed for Murray's services to be terminated if the tour was postponed or canceled, that was a conflict. Dr. Matheson: "When Mr. Jackson’s health deteriorated, I think that conflict of interest played out." (AP)
Bloss: Do you believe there was conflict of interest between MJ and AEG? Dr Matheson: Yes, I do. I believe they created conflict of interest. Dr. Matheson said he believes Dr. Murray was in a conflicting position, promised payment he was to receive to get MJ ready. "Contract made him answerable to AEG," Dr. Matheson said. "It could be canceled if the tour were canceled or terminated. "When MJ was deteriorating, I think that conflict of interest played out," Dr. Matheson said. Dr. Matheson: "I think in this case the conflict of interest led to poor medical decisions." "The contract was negotiated," Dr. Matheson opined. "I think Dr. Murray was operating under the assumption the contract was enforced." (ABC7)
The Stanford doctor, who worked as the team physician for the Vancouver Canucks professional hockey team and the Canadian Olympic hockey team, said it didn’t make a difference that AEG didn’t sign the contract because the terms had been negotiated, and that Murray was “fully engaged” and had passed on his bank information to the company so he could get paid. “Whether it was signed or not didn’t change my feeling as to whether there was conflict of interest,” he testified. Matheson pointed to a line in the contract that said Murray was to “Perform the services reasonably requested by Producer.” The language he said, tied Dr. Murray to AEG even though his was supposed to be looking after Jackson’s health, creating a conflict “as to which of the interests is primary.” AEG has argued that the contract Murray signed was one of the three or four drafts and that “Producer” was one of several mistakes that would have been corrected in the final version of the contract. Matheson wondered why Murray would close his practice when he faced losing his job caring for Jackson if the show were canceled, especially since he was in such bad financial straits. “It can produce a bias in the thinking where Dr. Murray wants to preserve that income at all costs and keep the people paying that income happy,” he said. (LAtimes)
"It's a lot of money to be paid to a physician, particularly a physician who was deeply indebted," Dr. Matheson testified. "I think Dr. Murray needed to be paid certain amount of money, because he owed a lot of money," Dr. Matheson said. (ABC7)
The director of Stanford University’s sports medicine program testified Monday that Michael Jackson’s doctor for his “This Is It” concert series, who administered a fatal dose of the anesthetic propofol to the singer, had conflicts of interest with the tour promoter that “were likely to lead to poor medical decisions.” Testifying in the wrongful death case brought by Jackson’s mother and children against promoter and producer AEG Live and two of its executives, Dr. Gordon Matheson said Dr. Conrad Murray’s debts meant he badly needed the $150,000 a month he was supposed to receive. Matheson testified that the contract made him answerable to AEG rather than his patient, and that because he would have been out of a job if the 50 concerts had been postponed, Murray was more likely to want to please the company. Matheson, who has an M.D. and a doctorate, said that when Jackson’s health deteriorated, “that conflict played out.” (LATimes)
Dr. Gordon Matheson, the director of the sports medicine department at Stanford University, testified as an expert in medical conflicts of interest Monday.After reviewing testimony and evidence in the case, Matheson concluded that AEG Live created a conflict of interest because the contract it negotiated with Murray to serve as Jackson's personal doctor for $150,000 a month "was likely to lead to poor medical decisions." Matheson, the team doctor for Stanford's athletic department, compared it to a football coach telling a team doctor on the sidelines in the fourth quarter of a big game that a star quarterback has to go back in the game despite a suspected concussion. Murray, who had closed his clinics to take the job and was $1 million in debt, would be inclined not to resist the AEG Live executives' pressure to get Jackson to rehearsals despite evidence of his failing health, Matheson testified. Murray himself was conflicted because the negotiated contract was structured so that he answered to AEG, but it also could be canceled if the tour was canceled, he said. "I think that conflict played out as Michael Jackson's health began to deteriorate." (CNN)
"When doctors take on roles, you want them to make independent medical decisions not tied to secondary interests," Dr. Matheson explained. Dr. Matheson said the contract was subject to immediate termination if show was canceled or postponed. Dr. Matheson: It can produce bias in thinking, the doctor wants to retain that payment and please the producer paying him. "That conflicts which priority is primary: MJ or producer of shows," Dr. Matheson explained. (ABC7)
Matheson spent much of his later testimony going through emails he said supported his conflict of interest determination. The doctor focused on emails sent by Kenny Ortega on June 14th, and also the 'trouble at the Front' emails from June 20, 2009. (AP)
Bloss talked about emails exchanged. On 6/14/09 Ortega asked who was responsible for MJ's nourishment, advised doctor didn't allow rehearsal. Dr. Matheson said the email pointed some health concerns that needed attention, questioned if physician was making independent decisions. As to Phillips' email saying AEG was paying doc salary email: "That very directly relates to the intent to control the doctors' decision." "The email shows lack of independent decision," Dr. Matheson said about Phillips' email. "The result of a conflict of interest could be a bad medical decision," Dr. Matheson explained. (ABC7)
The pressure increases as you get close to the end of the game, for example, Dr. Matheson said. "If MJ was unable to rehearse or perform, the show would stop completely," Dr. Matheson said. Bloss: What impact would that have on Dr. Murray? Dr. Matheson: He wouldn't have a job and he wouldn't have an income."Doctors should be able to make independent medical decision on what the best care is for the patient," Dr. Matheson expressed. (ABC7)
Regarding chain email "Trouble at the Front": Dr Matheson said he was intrigued Hougdahl needed to qualify he wasn't being 'a drama queen'."Basket case is a strong word, doubt is pervasive is fairly strong statement," Dr. Matheson said. Phillips responded "we have a real problem here," which Dr. Matheson said showed Phillips recognized there was a problem with MJ. Ortega's reference that 'we brought Dr. Murray into the fold' shows Dr. Matheson that there's a full alignment with the way they thought. But it also showed it wasn't working, MJ was still weak and showing psychological problems, Dr. Matheson explained. Phillips' response 'I will call you when I figure this out' showed that Phillips was in charge, Dr. Matheson said. "We wouldn't normally put an athlete back in the game while their health was declining," Dr. Matheson explained. As to Phillips writing Dr. Murray is extremely successful and doesn't need this gig, Dr. Matheson reacted: "The fact that Mr. Phillips realizes that's important, to me he realizes there's a potential for conflict in this scenario." (ABC7)
Matheson said he got sense of Conrad Murray's debt from Detective Orlando Martinez's testimony, investigation. He said Murray's expected payday was problematic because he was in such deep debt (about $1 million), and it might bias his care of Jackson. He drew a distinction between the June 14 email in which Murray held Jackson back from practice, possibly for good medical reasons versus the June 20, 2009 conversations in which Murray apparently told AEG that practice would keep MJ from deteriorating more. Matheson also pointed to the language in one of Gongaware's emails about reminding Murray who was paying him as a possible conflict. The doctor likened that to a coach telling a team doctor to put an injured player back in a ballgame because it was an important time. Matheson said a later email about bringing Murray "into the fold" showed a conflict. Matheson said it signaled "the removal of independence" (AP)
Matheson discussed several emails written by AEG executives, the tour manager and tour director that have become central pieces evidence in the trial. In one email, AEG Live executive Paul Gongaware wrote of Murray, “We want to remind him that it is AEG, not MJ who is paying his salary. We want him to understand what is expected of him.” Matheson said the email “relates directly to attempts to control the doctor’s decision-making or professional judgment.” He likened it to a quarterback being pulled from a game in the fourth quarter because of an injury and the team owner pressuring the doctor to put him back into the game by reminding the physician that he was paying his salary. “We wouldn’t normally put an athlete back into the game when they had worsening symptoms related to their health,” he said. The sports medicine expert said that in order to avoid conflicts, the doctors for Stanford athletic teams are in charge of an athlete’s healthcare. He said they also teach or perform research at the university so their decisions about athletes don’t affect their income. He said there is a separate facility away from the coaches where players and doctors can have confidential discussions. Matheson said that an email from AEG Live Chief Executive Randy Phillips showed he was aware of the potential conflict with Murray but did not believe one existed. In the email he wrote that Murray “does not need this gig he [is] totally unbiased and ethical.” (LATimes)
Zusammenfassung von Ivy, MJJC #38
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Zusammenfassungen der vorangegangenen gerichtstage:
Day 1 - anträge u. eröffnungsstatements
Day 2 - anhörung und zeugen Senneff u. Martinez
Day 3 - forts. zeuge Martinez u. anhörung
Day 4 - forts. zeuge Martinez
Day 5 - zeugen Anderson und Rogers
Day 6 - zeuge Dr. Wohlgelernter
Day 7 - zeugin Sankey
Day 8 - zeugin Faye
Day 9 - forts. zeugin Faye
Day 10 - zeugen Walker, Rogers, Payne
Day 11 - forts. zeuge Payne
Day 12 - zeugin Hollander
Day 13 - M. Hom videodeposition, forts. zeugin Hollander
Day 14 - forts. zeugin Hollander; zeuge Trell
Day 14 fortsetzung - forts. zeuge Trell
Day 16 - forts. zeuge Trell
Day 17 - forts. zeuge Trell
Day 18 - zeuge Gongaware
Day 19 - forts. zeuge Gongaware
Day 20 - forts. zeuge Gongaware
Day 21 - forts. zeuge Gongaware
Day 22 - forts. zeuge Gongaware
Day 23 - forts. zeuge Gongaware; zeuge R. Phillips
Day 24 - forts. zeuge Phillips
Day 25 - forts. zeuge Phillips
Day 26 - forts. zeuge Phillips
Day 27 - forts. zeuge Phillips
Day 28 - forts. zeuge Phillips
Day 29 - forts. zeuge Phillips
Day 30 - forts. zeuge Phillips
Day 31 - zeuge Berman
Day 32 - zeugin Chase
Day 33 - forts. zeugin Chase; videodeposition Dr. Earley
Day 34 - zeuge Dr. Czeisler
Day 35 - forts. zeuge Dr. Czeisler
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