K. Jackson-Klage gegen AEG- Der Prozess- Nur News -Keine Diskussion

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http://www.psblaw.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/Exhibit-462-5002-14LADA.pdf

falsches Geburtsdatum von murray? ich dachte immer
er wäre 1953 geboren.

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Habe gerade gesehen, dass ich die Tweets in den Dikussionsthread eingestellt habe, daher kopiere ich es hierhin (u. ausnahmsweise somit in 2 Threads)
Gongaware wird weiterhin bis mind. Dienstag im Zeugenstand bleiben.

Bisherige Befragung von Gongaware vom heutigen Tag: Von unten nach oben lesen

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Putnam: Wounded you like to be number 1? Gongaware: No. It's so much bigger, it gets so much more complex. I'm happy being a good number 2
Putnam: Wollen Sie die Nummer 1 sein? Gongaware: Nein, es ist so viel größer, es wird so viel komplexer. Ich bin glücklich, ein gute Nummer 2 zu sein

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"Our philosophy is different," Gongaware said, adding they choose what they want to do, whereas Live Nation has to meet their quota.
"Unsere Philosophie ist anders", fügte Gongaware hinzu, sagt sie entscheiden was sie tun wollen, während Live Nation ihre Quote zu erfüllen muss.

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Gongaware said AEG Live is the second largest concert promoter company. Live Nation is the first.
Gongaware sagte AEG Live ist das zweitgrößte Konzertveranstalter -Unternehmen. Live Nation ist das Größte

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Gongaware said he made a deal that requires him to work only half time starting this year.
Gongaware sagte, er habe einen Deal, der ihm erlaubt nur die Hälfte der Zeit zu arbeiten, startend ab diesem Jahr.

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AEG acquired the assets of Concerts West around 2000, Gongaware said, and Concerts West became AEG Live. Randy Phillips is AEG's CEO.
AEG erwarb die Vermögenswerte der Concerts West um 2000, sagte Gongaware und Concerts West wurde AEG. Randy Phillips ist AEG-Chef

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Concerts West started out with concerts of Andrea Bocceli, Mariah Carrey, Eagles and Millennium at Staples Center.
Concert West begann mit Konzerten von Andrea Bocceli, Mariah Carrey, Eagles und Millennium im Staples Center.

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Gongaware and his partner, John Meglen, created Concerts West in the late 90s.
Gongaware und sein Partner John Meglen kreierten die Concerts West in den späten 90er Jahren.

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He was tempted, Gongaware said, but he had lined up what he wanted to do. He worked with Yani next.
Er versucht sagte Gongaware, aber er hatte aufgereiht, was er tun wollte. Er arbeitete mit Yani als Nächstes.

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Gongaware said he didn't accept the offer and decided to go out on his own to promote concerts.
Gongaware sagte, er habe das Angebot nicht angenommen und beschloss seine eigenen Konzerte zu promoten

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"He liked my work, he liked what I did," Gongaware said, adding that MJ wanted him to be his business manager.
"Er mochte meine Arbeit, er mochte, was ich tat," fügte Gongaware hinzu, dass MJ ihn als seinen Buisiness Manager wollte.

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Gongaware said [lexicon]HIStory Tour[/lexicon] was pretty smooth. It ended in 1997. Right after, Gongaware said Michael called him as asked him to work for him
Gongaware sagte die [lexicon]HIStory Tour[/lexicon] war ziemlich glatt. Sie endete im Jahr 1997. Gleich danach fragte Michael Gongaware ob er für ihn arbeiten wolle.

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Gongaware said he would certainly notice if there was any problem during that tour.
Gongaware sagte, er hätte sicherlich bemerkt, wenn es irgendein Problem während dieser Tour gab.

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Putnam asked if there were signs MJ was using painkillers during [lexicon]HIStory Tour[/lexicon]. "No indication at all. I didn't think he was," Gongaware said
Putnam fragte, ob es Anzeichen gab das MJ Schmerzmitteln während [lexicon]HIStory Tour[/lexicon] nahm. "Keine Anzeige überhaupt nicht. Ich glaube nicht, dass er was nahm", sagte Gongaware

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Gongaware said he missed shows in [lexicon]Dangerous[/lexicon] tour but not in [lexicon]HIStory Tour[/lexicon].
Gongaware sagte er verpasst Shows in [lexicon]Dangerous[/lexicon] Tour aber nicht bei der [lexicon]HIStory Tour[/lexicon].
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MJ was told Diana was going to be okay and next morning he learned she died, Gongaware described. "That affected him greatly."
MJ wurde gesagt, dass Diana okay sei und am nächsten Morgen erfuhr er das sie starb, beschreibt Gongaware. "Das traf ihn sehr."
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Gongaware said MJ only missed one show on [lexicon]HIStory Tour[/lexicon] when Princess Diana died. "He went to bed, knew about the accident."
Gongaware sagte, dass MJ nur eine Show verpasste auf der [lexicon]HIStory Tour[/lexicon] als Prinzessin Diana starb."
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Putnam: How was MJ on the [lexicon]HIStory[/lexicon] tour? Gongaware: Great! He was sensational!
Putnam: Wie war MJ auf der History Tour? Gongaware: Großartig! Er war sensationell!
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The exec testified MJ didn't have doctor traveling with him on the second half of the tour and there was no tour doctor with the tour.
Der Executive sagte aus, dass MJ auf der 2. Hälfte der Tour keinen Arzt hatte der mitreiste und es gab keine Tourarzt auf der Tour.
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Gongaware said he didn't see anything that would suggest Michael was addicted to painkillers.
Gongaware sagt er sah nichts was annehmen ließ, dass MJ abhänig mit Schmerzmitteln war.
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Putnam: Was there an ongoing concern Mr. Jackson was having problems with painkillers during the [lexicon]HIStory[/lexicon] tour? Gongaware: No, not at all
Putnam: Gab es eine Besorgnis das Mr. Jackson Probleme mit Schmerzmitteln während der [lexicon]HIStory Tour[/lexicon] hatte? Gongaware: Nein, überhaupt nicht.

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We got the tour to break even, Gongaware testified, saying he worked closely with Jackson on the second half of the tour.
Wir kamen zur Tourpause, Gongaware sagte aus, dass er nahe mit Jackson auf der 2. Hälfte der Tour arbeitete.

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Second half of the tour, Gongaware was the tour executive and he worked directly for MJ. It netted$14 million, $11 million paid vendors.
2. Hälfte der Tour. Gongaware war Tourexexcutive und er arbeitete direkt mit MJ. Es saldierte mit 14 Mio, 11 Mio, zahlten Investoren
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Gongaware said he had to cut lot of expenses. They wanted to give Michael the same show, but he said there was so much excess to be trimmed
Gongaware sagte er hatte eine Menge Kosten zu senken. Sie wollten Michael die gleiche Show geben, aber es waren viele Ausgaben einzuschränken
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He switched managers to fixed things up in yhe second half of the tour, Gongaware explained.
Er wechselte Manager um die Dinge in der zweiten Hälfte der Tour zu fixieren erklärte Gongaware.
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After shows ended in Hawaii, Michael had lost $27 million, was in debt $11 million to lighting and sound, Gongaware testified.
Nachdem die Shows in Hawaii endeten hatte Michael 27 Mio. verloren und war 11 Mio. in Schulden mit Licht und Sound, sagte Gongaware aus
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Gongaware said he did not have a general concern with MJ having a drug addiction.
Gongaware sagte er hatte keine generelle Besorgnis das MJ Medikamentenprobleme habe.
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Gongaware did a Rod Stewart tour in North America after [lexicon]Dangerous[/lexicon] tour. He next worked with Michael in the "[lexicon]HIStory[/lexicon]" tour in 1996/97
Gongaware mache eine Rod Stewart Tour in Nord Amerika nach der [lexicon]Dangerous[/lexicon] Tour. Er arbeitete das nächste Mal mit Michael bei der [lexicon]HIStory Tour[/lexicon] in 1996/1997
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"I didn't know it was an addiction," Gongaware said, and that he learned MJ had drug problems after Mexico City.
"Ich wusste nicht das es eine Abhänigkeit war. Er erfuhr das MJ Medikamentenprobleme hatte nach Mexico City.
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"When he did the Pepsi commercial, his hair was burn at the top," Gongaware explained, saying they did surgery so hair would look natural.
" Als er das Pepsi Commercial machte ging sein Haar in Flammen, sagte Gongaware, sie machten eine Operation um das Haar natürlich aussehen zu lassen."
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Gongaware: Before 3rd leg of [lexicon]Dangerous[/lexicon] tour started, he had scalp surgery, hit nerve or something it was very painful; was treated for that
Gongaware: Vor dem 3. Leg der [lexicon]Dangerous[/lexicon] Tour hatte MJ eine Kopfhaut-OP, sein Nerv wurde getroffen, es war sehr schmerzhaft, er wurde deswegen behandelt
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Putnam asked Gongaware if he had any understanding as to [lexicon]Why[/lexicon] MJ was taking painkiller.
Putnam fragt Gongaware ob er weiß warum MJ Schmerzmittel nahm.
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Putnam setzt Befragung von Gongaware fort.
Marvin Putnam resumes questioning of AEG's Paul Gongaware. Katherine Jackson is wearing an orange jacket and Rebbie is in a black jacket.



Den restlichen Teil der gestrigen Befragung kann man hier nachlesen (Posts von Maja beginned 88 bis 86)

http://www.mjjackson-forever.com/index.php?page=Thread&postID=227002#post227002


Die KJ-Anwälte Panish und Boyle haben auf ihrer Anwaltsseite offensichtlich Prozessbeweisstücke eingestellt oder zumindest Teile davon

http://www.psblaw.com/michael-jackso...-exhibits.html

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The Jacksons vs. AEG Live – Zeugen der Jacksons, 13. Teil

31. Mai 2013

Gestern war der dritte Tag der Befragung von Co-CEO Paul Gongaware durch Jackson Anwalt Brian Panish. “Stellt sicher, dass wir die Aufnahmen von MJ in der roten Lederjacke auf der Bühne, wo die Minifilme gedreht wurden, rausnehmen. Er sieht da viel zu [dünn] und wie ein Skelett aus”, so Randy Phillips an Gongaware sechs Wochen nach Michaels Tod, als es um den “This Is It” Dokumentarfilm ging. Paul Gongaware, einer der Produzenten des Dokumentarfilms, antwortete Phillips: “Okay, werde es anschauen…”.

In einer weiteren E-Mail schrieb Gongaware: “Wir sind nun damit einverstanden, dass die Band, Sänger und Tänzer Interviews geben. Wir verlangen nur, dass sie positiv bleiben und betonen, dass MJ aktiv, engagiert und nicht die ausgemergelte Person war, wie ihn einige darstellen wollen”. Auf Folgefragen von Brian Panish antwortete Gongaware, dass er nicht versucht hatte, die Botschaft des Films zu kontrollieren. “Wir haben sie gebeten, positiv zu bleiben”. Gongaware sagte weiter, sie hätten nichts aus dem Dokufilm rausgenommen.

LA Times Senior Writer Jeff Gottlieb betonte, dass es auch an diesem Tag erneut Unterschiede zwischen Gongawares Antworten bei der eidesstattlichen Zeugeneinvernahme vor dem Prozess im Dezember 2012 und seinen Aussagen diese Woche im Zeugenstand gab. Wenn man die begleitenden Kommentare sowie die im Moment immer kürzer werdenden Berichte von Jeff Gottlieb liest, kommt man nicht um das Gefühl herum, dass er immer ungeduldiger und frustrierter wird mit den Aussagen der AEG Manager, insbesondere Paul Gongaware diese Woche. Ich kann es ihm gut nachempfinden…

Auch Alan Duke, der für CNN vom Prozess berichtet, geht es da wohl nicht viel anders. Als Einstiegssatz in seine aktuellste Berichterstattung vom Prozess schrieb er “Der meist gesprochene Satz von AEG Lives co-CEO während seiner Zeugenaussage im [...] Prozess war: “Ich kann mich nicht erinnern”.” Gongaware habe diesen Satz mehrere Dutzend Male wiederholt, als er diese Woche von Brian Panish befragt wurde. Es kam sogar soweit, dass die Geschworenen lachen mussten, insbesondere als Brian Panish begann, seine eigenen Fragen an Gongaware selbst mit “Ich kann mich nicht erinnern” zu beantworten. Sogar Richterin Yvette Palazuelos kommentierte am Mittwoch, als die Geschworenen den Gerichtssaal verlassen hatten, “Wir haben das so oft gehört. Wie viele Male noch?”

Der Prozess selbst wird ja nicht übertragen. CNN hat jedoch die Videoaufnahme von Paul Gongawares eidesstattlicher Zeugeneinvernahme am 12. Dezember 2012 erhalten (das Material wurde am Mittwoch den Geschworenen gezeigt). CNN hat einen kurzen Ausschnitt davon gepostet und so könnt Ihr Euch einen besseren Eindruck schaffen, was da wohl erst recht im Gerichtssaal abgehet. Hier der Clip http://edition.cnn.com/2013/05/29/sh...iref=allsearch. Es geht dabei um eine, wenn nicht die entscheidende E-Mail in diesem Prozess, nämlich der E-Mail von Gongaware an Kenny Ortega, in der ersterer schrieb “Wir wollen [Conrad Murray] daran erinnern, dass AEG und nicht Michael Jackson sein Gehalt zahlen.” (Siehe gestrige News für mehr Details.)

Als Gongaware sich dann am Mittwoch langsam zu erinnern begann, was er in seiner E-Mail gemeint hatte, deutete Jackson Anwalt Brian Panish an, dass es ja ein Fall von “unterdrückten Erinnerungen” sein könnte, bei der “sich jemand nicht erinnern kann, was vor drei oder vier Jahren geschehen ist. Sie haben keine Psychotherapie gehabt, um sich daran zu erinnern, was sie hier geschrieben haben”, fragte Panish Gongaware. “Sie wurden nicht in Schlaf versetzt –” (Richterin Palazuelos sagte: “Hypnotisiert?”) – “um zu sehen, ob sie sich erinnern können?” Nein, antwortete Gongaware schlicht.

Der Co-CEO von AEG hat nun wohl definitiv den letzten Funken an Glaubwürdigkeit verloren (wenn er die denn je besessen hat).

Quellen: jackson.ch, latimes.com, cnn.com

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Artikel Los Angeles Times 31.5.2013

DANKE maja5809 für die Übersetzung

About six weeks after Michael Jackson’s death, an AEG executive told a producer for the “This Is It” documentary to delete footage of the singer looking too “skeletal.”
Sechs Wochen nach Mjs Tod sagte ein Produzent der TII Dokumentation, Aufnahmen zu löschen, auf denen der Sänger zu „sklettartig“ aussehe.

Witnesses in the Jackson family’s wrongful-death suit have testified that they were worried about the singer’s health and dramatic weight loss in the day before his scheduled comeback tour and had expressed concerns to tour officials.
The paramedic who came to Jackson’s Holmby Hills home after the 911 call on June 25, 2009, testified that the singer was so emaciated that he thought Jackson was an end-stage cancer patient who had come home to die.

“Make sure we take out the shots of MJ in that red leather jacket at the sound stage where the mini-movies were being filmed,” AEG Live president and co-chief executive Randy Phillips wrote.
“He looks way too think (sic) and skeletal.”
„Versichere dich, dass die Aufnahmen von MJ in der roten Lederjacke von der Soundstage, wo die Mini-Movies gefilmt werden, herausgenommen werden. Er sieht zu „denk“ („think“- soll heissen „thinn“ = dünn (s.u.) und sklettartig aus.“

Phillips sent the email to Paul Gongaware, who was back on the witness stand Thursday for his third straight day of testimony. Gongaware, co-chief executive of AEG Live, was a producer of the documentary.
Phillips schickte die Mail an Gongaware, der am Donnerstag im Zeugenstand war, für den dritten Tag seiner Aussage. Gongaware war einer der Produzenten der Doku.

Gongaware replied to Phillips, his boss, “ok will have a look when it comes on screen.”
In another email, Gongaware wrote, “We are ok with the band, singers and dancers doing inteviews now. The only thing we ask is that they keep it positive and stress that MJ was active, engaged and not the emaciated person some want to paint him as being.”
Gongaware antwortete seinem Boss: „Ok, ich werde ein Auge drauf haben, wenn es auf den Bildschirm kommt“
In einer anderen Mail schrieb Gongaware: „ Wir sind jetzt soweit, mit den Sängern, Tänzern und der Band die Inteviews zu machen. Wir haben sie nur darum gefragt, es positiv zu halten und zu betonen, dass MJ aktiv, engagiert war und nicht die ausgezehrte /abgemagerte Person war, als die manche ihn darstellen wollen.“

Answering questions from Jackson family attorney Brian Panish, Gongaware said he was not trying to control the film’s message. “We’re asking them to keep it positive,” he said.
Auf die Frage von Panish, ob er nicht versuchte, die Botschaft des Films zu kontrollieren sagte Gongaware: „ Wir baten sie nur, es positiv zu belassen“

Gongaware said nothing was taken out of the documentary, which included rehearsals for the scheduled 50 concerts in London.
Gongaware sagt, es wurde nichts aus der Doku herausgenommen...

Gongaware’s testimony again emphasized the contrast between the answers he gave during his deposition under oath in December 2012 and his responses in the courtroom.
Gongawares Aussage zeigte wieder den Unterschied zwischen seinen Antworten, die er unter Eid im Dezember 2012 gab und seinen Antworten im Gerrichtssaal.

In testimony Wednesday, he agreed that Phillips meant “thin” in his email, instead of the word he typed, “think.”
Am Mittwoch stimmte er zu, dass Phillips mit dem Wort „think“ in der Email „thinn“ meinte.

Asked during the deposition what Phillips meant, he replied, ”I don’t know what he meant.”
In der eidesstattlichen Erklärung danach gefragt, hatte er gesagt: Ich weiss nicht, was er meinte.

The wrongful death case was brought by Jackson’s mother and three children against AEG, the promoter and producer of the London concerts.
The family contends that AEG negligently hired and supervised Conrad Murray, the doctor who gave Jackson the fatal dose of the anesthetic propofol. AEG says that the doctor worked for Jackson, and that any money the company was supposed to pay Murray were advances to the singer.

http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-aeg-skeletal-jackson-20130530,0,4702553.story

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The Jacksons vs. AEG Live – Zeugen der Jacksons, 12. Teil

30. Mai 2013

Und weiter ging’s gestern mit der Befragung von AEGs co-CEO Paul Gongaware durch Brian Panish, dem Anwalt der Jacksons. “Wir wollen [Conrad Murray] daran erinnern, dass AEG und nicht Michael Jackson sein Gehalt zahlen. Wir wollen, dass er versteht, was wir von ihm erwarten”, so Gongaware in einer E-Mail am 14. Juni 2009, 11 Tage vor Michael Jacksons Tod. Und was hatte Gongaware im Zeugenstand dazu zu sagen? “Ich verstehe das nicht, denn wir haben sein Gehalt nicht gezahlt”. Warum er das dann geschrieben hatte, fragte ihn Brian Panish (berechtigerweise). “Ich habe keine Ahnung”, so Gongaware. “Ich bearbeitete hunderte E-Mails pro Tag. Wenn ich gewusst hätte, dass vier Jahre später Anwälte alles auseinander nehmen, wäre ich wohl vorsichtiger gewesen in der Wahl meiner Wort”, versuchte sich Gongaware später herauszuwinden.

Betreffend Michael Jacksons Gesundheit sagte Gongaware aus, dass er versuchte, einen Ernährungsberater und Physiotherapeuten zu finden, als Kenny Ortega sich Sorgen um Michaels Gesundheit gemacht hatte. Ortegas E-Mail Antwort darauf lautete: “Super. Keine Minute zu früh. Retten wir diesen Kerl!” Gongaware sagte aber auch aus, dass er sich nie Sorgen gemacht hatte um Michael Jackson. “Ich wusste, dass wenn die Saalbeleuchtung [vor dem Konzertanfang] ausgeht, er voll da sein und loslegen würde”.

In einer weiteren E-Mail vom 5. Mai 2009 an die Assistentin von Tim Leiweke, dem damaligen CEO der Muttergesellschaft von AEG Live, schrieb Gongaware, dass er ihr nicht sagen könnte, wann die “This Is It” Konzerttour in London eröffnet würde, da Michael Jackson nicht zu den Proben erschien. “Bete für mich”, so Gongaware in der E-Mail weiter. “Dies ist ein Alptraum. Es ist kein Zufall, dass ich jede Nacht Alpträume habe. Kalten Schweissausbruch dazu. Das Leben hat mal so viel Spass gemacht…” Als Gongaware im Zeugenstand mit dieser Aussage konfrontiert wurde, meinte er lediglich, dass er in der E-Mail nur gewitzelt hatte.

Was hat Gongaware oben gesagt, als er sich wieder einmal versuchte herauszuwinden? “Wenn ich gewusst hätte, dass vier Jahre später Anwälte alles auseinander nehmen, wäre ich wohl vorsichtiger gewesen in der Wahl meiner Worte”. Und dies gilt für jede E-Mail, die Sie in diesem Fall geschrieben haben, Mr. Gongaware? Mir kommt da gerade ein schönes und treffendes englisches Sprichwort in den Sinn: If it looks like a duck, swims like a duck, and quacks like a duck, then it probably is a duck. [Wenn es wie eine Ente ausschaut, wie eine Ente schwimmt und wie eine Ente quakt, dann ist es wahrscheinlich eine Ente.]

Quellen: jackson.ch, latimes.com

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The Jacksons vs. AEG Live – Zeugen der Jacksons, 12. Teil

30. Mai 2013

Und weiter ging’s gestern mit der Befragung von AEGs co-CEO Paul Gongaware durch Brian Panish, dem Anwalt der Jacksons. “Wir wollen [Conrad Murray] daran erinnern, dass AEG und nicht Michael Jackson sein Gehalt zahlen. Wir wollen, dass er versteht, was wir von ihm erwarten”, so Gongaware in einer E-Mail am 14. Juni 2009, 11 Tage vor Michael Jacksons Tod. Und was hatte Gongaware im Zeugenstand dazu zu sagen? “Ich verstehe das nicht, denn wir haben sein Gehalt nicht gezahlt”. Warum er das dann geschrieben hatte, fragte ihn Brian Panish (berechtigerweise). “Ich habe keine Ahnung”, so Gongaware. “Ich bearbeitete hunderte E-Mails pro Tag. Wenn ich gewusst hätte, dass vier Jahre später Anwälte alles auseinander nehmen, wäre ich wohl vorsichtiger gewesen in der Wahl meiner Wort”, versuchte sich Gongaware später herauszuwinden.

Betreffend Michael Jacksons Gesundheit sagte Gongaware aus, dass er versuchte, einen Ernährungsberater und Physiotherapeuten zu finden, als Kenny Ortega sich Sorgen um Michaels Gesundheit gemacht hatte. Ortegas E-Mail Antwort darauf lautete: “Super. Keine Minute zu früh. Retten wir diesen Kerl!” Gongaware sagte aber auch aus, dass er sich nie Sorgen gemacht hatte um Michael Jackson. “Ich wusste, dass wenn die Saalbeleuchtung [vor dem Konzertanfang] ausgeht, er voll da sein und loslegen würde”.

In einer weiteren E-Mail vom 5. Mai 2009 an die Assistentin von Tim Leiweke, dem damaligen CEO der Muttergesellschaft von AEG Live, schrieb Gongaware, dass er ihr nicht sagen könnte, wann die “This Is It” Konzerttour in London eröffnet würde, da Michael Jackson nicht zu den Proben erschien. “Bete für mich”, so Gongaware in der E-Mail weiter. “Dies ist ein Alptraum. Es ist kein Zufall, dass ich jede Nacht Alpträume habe. Kalten Schweissausbruch dazu. Das Leben hat mal so viel Spass gemacht…” Als Gongaware im Zeugenstand mit dieser Aussage konfrontiert wurde, meinte er lediglich, dass er in der E-Mail nur gewitzelt hatte.

Was hat Gongaware oben gesagt, als er sich wieder einmal versuchte herauszuwinden? “Wenn ich gewusst hätte, dass vier Jahre später Anwälte alles auseinander nehmen, wäre ich wohl vorsichtiger gewesen in der Wahl meiner Worte”. Und dies gilt für jede E-Mail, die Sie in diesem Fall geschrieben haben, Mr. Gongaware? Mir kommt da gerade ein schönes und treffendes englisches Sprichwort in den Sinn: If it looks like a duck, swims like a duck, and quacks like a duck, then it probably is a duck. [Wenn es wie eine Ente ausschaut, wie eine Ente schwimmt und wie eine Ente quakt, dann ist es wahrscheinlich eine Ente.]

Quellen: jackson.ch, latimes.com

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[Lena]

Medienzusammenfassung von Ivy vom gestrigen Tag. Aussage Gongaware geht noch bis einschl. Montag weiter.
Beide Parteien haben offensichtlich auch schon gesagt, dass die bislang veranschlagte Zeit für den Prozess nicht ausreichend ist und alles noch viel länger gehen wird.

Anthony McCartney @mccartneyAP4h The sense I'm getting is that both sides think this taking longer than they expected. But no one is putting an end date on it yet



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Jacksons vs AEG - Day 20 – May 30 2013 – Summary

Katherine and Rebbie Jackson are in court.

The court also heard an update on efforts to get emails and any other records from a computer used by Jackson’s former manager Frank Dileo. Apparently an LA attorney has a copy of Dileo's computer hard drive. Attorneys are working to get a copy of the HD to both sides. The copy was revealed during a deposition of Dileo’s widow earlier this week in Pennsylvania, plaintiff’s lawyer Brian Panish said. (AP)


Paul Gongaware Testimony


Jackson direct

Gongaware said he met with his attorneys again yesterday to refresh his recollection. (ABC7)

Panish asked if AEG was concerned about Mr. Jackson's health. "When he was sick we obviously had a concern," Gongaware responded. Gongaware said he understood MJ was sick from reading the chain of emails shown yesterday. But Gongaware told the jury he didn't have any particular concern about Michael Jackson. Other than on June 19th, no one told Gongaware about being concerned with MJ's health. (ABC7) Gongaware testified that he disagreed with Houghdahl's opinion, saying he had no "particular concern" about Jackson's health and ability to perform. (CNN)

Talking about the email Hougdahl sent saying MJ was deteriorating quickly, Gongaware explained: "I didn't see it the way he saw." (ABC7)

Hougdahl, in response to concerns expressed by Travis Payne about Jackson’s weight, wrote singer needed a new diet.(AP) Email 6/15/09 from Hougdahl to Gongaware He needs some cheeseburgers w/ bunch of Wisconsin cheesehead bowlers and couple of brats and beers. (ABC7 & AP) Panish asked Gongaware whether he thought the email was funny. Gongaware said yes. He also said he wasn’t concerned about Jackson’s health. (AP)

"Was he joking around about this situation?" Panish asked Gongaware, referring to Hougdahl.
"I think he was," Gongaware replied.
"Did you think that was funny?" Panish asked.
"I did," Gongaware admitted. (NYDailyNews)

Panish: Was Mr. Hougdahl joking about it?
Gongaware: A little bit (ABC7)

Panish inquired whether Gongaware had indemnity clause in his contract. Panish asked about indemnity in Gongaware's contract. The exec said indemnity means that someone else is taking on the responsibility. "I haven't read my contract in 12/13 years, I don't know what it says," Gongaware said. Gongaware said he does not know how many pages his employment agreement is. Panish asked if he AEG would cover for Gongaware should they be found guilty.(ABC7) Gongaware said it was his understanding that he wouldn’t be personally responsible financial if the jury sided with Jackson family. (AP) Panish: That means if you did something wrong... Gongaware: They would be responsible "I've been assuming that," Gongaware responded, adding that depending upon the size of the judgment, AEG could go after him. Panish asked how much AEG would be able to afford, and Gongaware said he didn't know. Panish emphasized there are various ways for AEG to pay a judgment, and Gongaware mentioned they had some sort of cancellation insurance. (ABC7)

Panish went back to discuss the email from Randy Phillips where he wrote Dr. Murray didn't need the gig and was unbiased and ethical. Panish: Is Mr. Phillips unbiased and ethical, sir? Gongaware: I think he is. Panish asked if it was ethical for Phillips to represent to Ortega that the doctor is 'extremely successful' and 'we checked everyone out'. Gongaware responded that he didn't know what Phillips knew at the time. (ABC7)

Panish: Is number one priority 'the show must go on'? Gongaware: I don't know if that's number one P: What's number one? G: Getting it right (ABC7)

Panish showed the email John Branca, Michael's attorney, saying he had the right therapist for MJ and asked if substance abuse was involved. "This is referring to the meeting that was going to happen and I was waiting to see the results of it," Gongaware said. "I didn't believe there was a substance abuse issue," Gongaware testified. "In the entire time I was dealing with him in this tour, I saw it once when he came back from his doctor," Gongaware testified. Gongaware said that was the only time he saw Michael with slurred speech and under the influence of something. Gongaware said he didn't know what Dr. Klein was giving Michael Jackson. When Panish asked Gongaware if he checked Dr. Klein out, he replied: "No, he was Michael's doctor and it was none of my business." (ABC7)

Gongaware said he once observed Michael looking "slow" and possibly intoxicated after a visit to his dermatologist but he didn't believe the singer had any serious health problems — even after Jackson appeared weak and disoriented at a June 19 rehearsal. "My observation of Michael Jackson was that he was healthy," Gongaware said. "They had a meeting to discuss (the June 19 incident), and he took a couple days off and he came back strong." (NYDailyNews)

Gongaware talked about the meetings he attended at MJ's house. He couldn't remember how many, but said one w/ Dr. Murray was in June. (ABC7)

On June 24th, Gongaware saw MJ rehearse the song 'Thriller'. He said he thought Michael was engaged and alert.(ABC7)

As to insurance issues, Gongaware said he was involved only peripherally. On June 25, Gongaware sent an email saying that if they didn't get sickness coverage in the insurance, they would be dropping the policy. Gongaware said he didn't know why he was pressing for sickness insurance on the day MJ died. Bob Taylor, the insurance broker, wrote back that it was always down to the medical issued from the word go. Regarding Randy Phillips asking for life insurance the day MJ died, Gongaware said he didn't pay much attention to insurance, didn't recall. (ABC7)

The day MJ died, Gongaware said Phillips called him and told him to get over to the house right away, there seems to be a problem. Randy followed the ambulance to UCLA. "The second call was that he informed me that he had died," Gongaware remembered. On June 25, Gongaware said he went to the rehearsal at the Staples Center and talked to Kenny Ortega. Panish: Were you sad Mr. Jackson died? Gongaware: Very much so (ABC7)

He was a business associate, Gongaware said about MJ. They did not didn't hang out as friends (ABC7)

Panish asked about Phillips' email directing Gongaware to remove thin, skeletal footage of MJ in red jacket from This Is It documentary. Gongaware testified today he remembered receiving the email. In his deposition played in court, Gongaware said he didn't recall the email. Panish: Did you change your testimony? Gongaware: No. I saw the email as part of my preparation (ABC7)
“Make sure we take out the shots of MJ in that red leather jacket at the sound stage where the mini-movies were being filmed,” AEG Live president and co-chief executive Randy Phillips wrote in Aug. 9 email. “He looks way too think (sic) and skeletal.” Gongaware replied to Phillips, his boss, “ok will have a look when it comes on screen.” (LATimes)

Gongaware said he didn't try to control any of the messages about MJ after his death to reflect he was fully engaged in rehearsals. Panish asked about an email from Gongaware okay'ing the band, singers and dancer to give interviews but asked them to keep it positive. (ABC7)

In another email July 9, 2009, email to music coordinator JoAnn Tominaga, Gongaware wrote, “We are ok with the band, singers and dancers doing interviews now. The only thing we ask is that they keep it positive and stress that MJ was active, engaged and not the emaciated person some want to paint him as being.” Answering questions from Jackson family attorney Brian Panish, Gongaware said he was not trying to control the film’s message. “We’re asking them to keep it positive,” he said.(LATimes)

"You're telling them what not to say, aren't you sir?" Katherine's lawyer Brian Panish asked Gongaware. "I'm asking them to keep it positive," Gongaware replied. "And not say he was emaciated," Panish shot back."Yes …we did ask them to keep it positive," Gongaware said. "So you were controlling the message as a producer of that documentary," Panish said, referring to the follow-up "This Is It" movie that included taped interviews. "I don't think so," Gongaware replied. (NYDailyTimes)

Email: The only thing we ask is that they keep it positive and stress that MJ was active, engaged & not emaciated person some want to paint
Panish: You were controlling the message as producer of that documentary, sir? Gongaware: I don't think so (ABC7)

Gongaware’s testimony again emphasized the contrast between the answers he gave during his deposition under oath in December 2012 and his responses in the courtroom. In testimony Wednesday, he agreed that Phillips meant “thin” in his email, instead of the word he typed, “think.”Asked during the deposition what Phillips meant, he replied, ”I don’t know what he meant.” (LATimes)

Gongaware said nothing was taken out of the documentary, which included rehearsals for the scheduled 50 concerts in London. (LATimes) Gongaware promised in a follow-up email to Phillips that he'd "have a look," but he testified Thursday that he never dumped any footage. "We didn't keep anything out based on what Randy wrote," Gogaware told jurors.(NYDailyNews) Gongaware testified that he did not know why Phillips would ask that. "We didn't keep anything out based on what Randy wanted." (CNN)

Gongaware said there were 15,000 tickets per show, $1.5 million in tickets per show, $47 million for all 31 shows. Tickets were selling at lightening fast, Gongaware said. "As fast as the system can sell.". The tickets were sold in March, Gongaware said. It was held by the arena, AEG had control of the money. Gongaware said merchandising was another way of making money. The building, which is owned by AEG, would keep the revenue of beverage sold. Gongaware said the beverage money would offset the arena rent, which Michael would not have to pay. Gongaware: His (MJ) potential was great Panish: Unlimited ceilings? Gongaware: If he was willing to work that hard, he would've done well. (ABC7)

Before lunch, Panish asked Gongaware whether “This Is It” was intended to be a multi-city tour. Gongaware said no, it was just going to be the 50 shows at London’s O2 arena. (AP) "The only thing we knew was 50 shows in London. Michael had not agreed to anything else," Gongaware explained. (ABC7)

Panish asked Gongaware by the time the show was sold out, how many people were in the queue to buy tickets. "250,000 people were still in the queue, which would be enough to sell another 50 shows," Gongaware answered (ABC7) During Murray’s trial, Gongaware testified that 250k people still wanted tickets. He told that jury “This Is It” would be a multi-city tour. (AP)

Panish: Did you tell the truth when you testified in this case, sir? Gongaware: Yes Panish then concluded his questioning of Gongaware. (ABC7)



AEG cross

AEG's attorney, Marvin Putnam, did the questioning of Gongaware on behalf of the defendants.

Putnam: Have you ever been sued personally for the wrongful death of anyone? Gongaware: No
Putnam: How are you feeling?
Gongaware: It's difficult, it's very stressful
Putnam: Are you nervous?
Gongaware: Yes (ABC7)

Putnam asked about Gongaware's memory and he said it's okay. (ABC7)

When AEG defense attorney Marvin Putnam took over, he asked Gongaware about some of the emails shown to jurors yesterday. Putnam was trying to show that not all the contents of the emails had been shown to jury. Some email addresses had been redacted. Attorney Brian Panish objected to the redactions, and got testy with the judge. It prompted another lengthy sidebar. When attorneys returned from the judge's chambers, Putnam resumed questioning Gongaware about email sent to his private account. (AP)

Putnam said Gongaware handed over more than 13,000 emails in discovery from the "This Is It" period. (ABC7 &AP)

Putnam inquired about Gongaware's Kazoodi personal email account. On 6/20/09, the chain of emails with "Trouble at the Front" was sent there. Gongaware said he didn't remember receiving this email. Gongaware said he had more than one "Kazoodi" email account. He said he was not using the account the email was sent to on 6/20. "The account was closed at the time," Gongaware testified, saying he never received the email. But he said he never denied it was sent. Gongaware claimed yesterday was the first time he saw the chain of email subject Trouble at the Front. (ABC7)

He presented Gongaware a document that indicated the private email account had been closed at the time a message sent him an MJ-related msg. The email in question was titled "trouble at the Front" and included concerns about Michael Jackson's health. Gongaware had testified that he'd never seen it. Putnam used the closed email account to try to show Gongaware's testimony was truthful (AP).

"Why could you not recall e-mails?" Putnam asked him Thursday. "I had not reviewed them and had not seen them in years," Gongaware answered. Some of the e-mails were new to him because he was so busy putting Jackson's tour together that he never read them, he said. "Mostly, it was just a time factor if it was something that didn't have to do with me."(CNN)

Gongaware said he was receiving hundreds of email a day at the height of 2008/09 tour preparation. Gongaware testified he didn't read all of them because of time factor or it was something it didn't have to do with him. (ABC7)

Gongaware said he doesn't have an office at AEG, and that he works in his own projects. He has an office at his house. Gongaware is the Co-CEO of AEG Live Concerts West with John Meglen. He said he was the co-founder of the company. Phillips is AEG Live CEO. (ABC7)

Gongaware explained be has been testifying about what he could recall. If he didn't remember, he said he told the jury he couldn't recall. Gongaware testified he looked at the emails after his deposition because he wanted to put everything together and see the bigger picture. Putnam: Did you try to give your best testimony? Gongaware: Yes, I did (ABC7)

Regarding the phone call between Gongaware and Dr. Murray where the doctor asked about $5 million, Gongaware said he remembers that call. The next call between the two, it was the $150,000 call, where Gongaware offered the doctor $150k. Gongaware said those were the only two calls he had with Dr. Murray. (ABC7)

Gongaware said the 1st time he met Dr. Murray was a meeting at MJ's Carolwood house. He said MJ, Kenny, Randy, Frank, Dr Murray were present. Gongaware recalled the other meeting with Dr. Murray was an encounter with him at The Forum. He remembers saying hello to him. Gongaware said he's sure he didn't meet with Dr. Murray other than on those two occasions.(ABC7)

Break down: Gongaware said he spoke with Dr. Murray on the phone two times and met with him two times. (ABC7)

Gongaware said he promoted couple of shows/dances in college. He graduated in '69 from Waynesboro College in Pennsylvania in Accounting. Gongaware worked for Arthur Andersen in NYC after college as auditor. He said one needed two years of experience in order to get CPA license.The company ended up shutting down after being involved in the Enron scandal, Gongaware explained. Gongaware said there's a continuing education requirement in order to maintain his CPA license, but he hasn't kept current. "I didn't like that work," Gongaware said about leaving the practice. "I wanted to do things and not just being an accountant." Gongaware said he ski bummed for a winter and would do bookkeeping to pay for his lodge. After, he promoted the Grateful Dead at Folsom Field in Boulder, CO. Gongaware said he didn't know the band, cold called them & got the work. (ABC7) His first big show was in Colorado -- he got The Grateful Dead to perform at Folsom Field in Boulder, Colo. He said he didn't know the band or any of its managers, but asked them to come to Colorado. They did, and the show was a hit. (AP) The concert was sold out, Gongaware said, and he became an independent promoter. Around 1975, he met Terry Bassett who worked at Concerts West and Gongaware went to work for them in their Seattle's office. He worked for them for about 10 years. Gongaware said he went to work for the company because the money was steady. At Concerts West, Gongaware worked with Bad Company, Led Zeppelin, Beach Boys, Chicago, Eric Clapton, among others. This Concerts West is not the same he is the currently the co-CEO. Jerry Weintraub was Elvis' promoter and Concerts West assigned him to work with Colonel Parker, Elvis' manager. (ABC7)

On Jun 25, 2009 Gabriel Sutter (a tech guy) wrote Gongaware a condolences email. "It was such an incredible shock to go through that experience," Gongaware explained. Gongaware's response on July 5, 2009: I was working on the Elvis tour when he died so I kind of knew what to expect. Still, quite a shock.(ABC7) Gongaware's response: "I was working for Elvis when he died so nothing came at me that I didn’t expect. Still, quite a shock."(AP) "You have all these people out of work," Gongaware explained. "At the Elvis some were without jobs permanently."(ABC7) Under questioning from Putnam, Gongaware said he didn't mean that he expected Jackson to die like Elvis. He was referring to the trauma of people losing their jobs because a tour is canceled, he said. (CNN) Putnam: When you wrote the email, did you expected MJ to die? Gongaware: No, not all P: Did you ever consider the idea MJ would die? G: No (ABC7) AEG defense attorney Marvin Putnam asked Gongaware whether he meant that he expected Jackson to die. Gongaware said no. Gongaware said he was referring to people working on the tour who would lose their jobs, and the estate taking control over MJ's legacy. (AP) Here's what Gongaware had to say about the role of the estate after Elvis died (and what he expected after Jackson's death.) Gongaware: "Then the estate takes over, and everything’s different. You have nothing to say about anything." (AP)

When one of his friends asked about his plans after MJ's death, Gongaware replied he was "trying to recover our losses from the show." (AP)

"MJ died of overdose of Propofol," Gongaware testified. He didn't die of being sick or malnutrition, Gongaware said. "It was overdose of Propofol." Gongaware said he had no idea of what Propofol was. (ABC7) "I had no idea" Jackson was using propofol in the weeks before his death, Gongaware testified. (CNN)

Gongaware was in his 20s when he worked w/ Elvis. He said when they'd announce Elvis concert, there would be lines at the box office 4 days. Gongaware said Colonel would buy ads on every radio station and promote the show. When tickets went on sale, Gongaware was to report to Colonel every hour regarding the ticket sales.(ABC7) Gongaware said he would update Parker on ticket sales for Elvis' shows. (AP) Gongaware said Elvis died of a heart ailment. ((On Tuesday, Gongaware testified Presley died of drug overdose)). Gongaware said he never met Elvis. At a point, Gongaware said Elvis was not performing. "The Colonel was keeping Elvis from work.".Gongaware said he came to find out later, after Elvis' death, that the artist had drug problems. (ABC7)

Although he worked advance promotion on Elvis Presley's last tours -- under the direction of Presley manager Colonel Tom Parker -- Gongaware testified he never met Presley.
"Did you understand he had a problem with drugs?" AEG lawyer Marvin Putnam asked.
"I understood that later," Gongaware said. "There was a period of time when we didn't work. I didn't understand at the time, but I learned that it was a drug problem and the Colonel said he couldn't work."(CNN)

Elvis Presley's death became a controversy at the Michael Jackson wrongful death trial as a man who promoted both artists' last tours testified.AEG Live Co-CEO Paul Gongaware testified Wednesday that Presley died of a drug overdose, but when his own lawyer questioned him Thursday he changed his testimony to say Elvis died of a heart ailment. Presley collapsed in the bathroom of his Memphis, Tennessee, mansion -- Graceland -- on August 16, 1977, at the age of 42. While his death was ruled the result of an irregular heartbeat, the autopsy report was sealed amid accusations that abuse of prescription drugs caused the problem.How Presley died is relevant because Jackson lawyers argue Gongaware's experience as Elvis's promoter should have made him more aware of drug abuse by artists, including Michael Jackson. (CNN)

Gongaware said he worked on MJ's memorial service. He was in charge of the tickets and worked closely with the family. He said he didn't charge for his work. Putnam: Why did you work at the memorial service? Gongaware: It was the right thing to do (ABC7)

Gongaware left Seattle and came to LA to work at Concerts West. He then went to Warner Miller Films. The company did primarily ski movies. Around 1992, Gongaware went to work on the "Dangerous" tour with MJ. This was his first time working with Michael Jackson. He worked with the Jacksons in 2000. But he remembered working on a tour with the Jacksons prior to 92 and said MJ was part of the group. "I was the tour manager, handled the logistics and travel for the B party," Gongaware said, adding he worked for MJ but not for A party. A party - artist B party - band and administration C party - crew D party - documentary people. Gongaware said there were several legs on Dangerous tour. It was a worldwide tour. He never met MJ on that tour, saw him on stage few times.(ABC7)

The first time Gongaware met MJ was in Las Vegas when he was visiting Colonel Parker. Steve Wynn's brother called and said MJ wanted to meet Colonel. Gongaware stayed and met MJ.(ABC7)

Putnam: Were there any doctors in that tour? Gongaware: Yes, two. Gongaware said Dr. Forecast was MJ's personal doctor. He didn't think Dr. Forecast treated anyone else, so they had Dr. Finkelstein also. Dr. Finkelstein, a general practitioner, was in the B party. They went to places where they didn't know the quality of local healthcare. Gongaware explained Dr. Finkelstein treated B, C and D parties. Gongaware said he did not see any doctor treat MJ. Dr. Finkelstein told Gongaware he treated MJ two times. Dr. Forecast wasn't in Bangkok yet, so Dr. Finkelstein treated him when he needed. The King of Thailand said MJ would have to do the second show because his friends were attending, Gongaware recalled. Gongaware said the King put armed guards outside their doors to make sure they didn't leave.(ABC7)

Putnam: During the Dangerous tour, have you come to have an understating that MJ had a problem with drugs or painkillers? Gongaware: No. The Dangerous tour in 93 was cut short in Mexico City, Gongaware said. He learned it had to do with drug addiction because MJ announced it. "My friends and doctors advised me to seek professional guidance immediately in order to eliminate what has become an addition. It is time for me to acknowledge my need for treatment " MJ said. Putnam played the audio with MJ's statement. (ABC7)

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The Jacksons vs. AEG Live – Zeugen der Jacksons, 11. Teil

30. Mai 2013

Seit Dienstag ist Paul Gongaware, Co-CEO von AEG Live, im Zeugenstand. Am Vormittag kam Janet Jackson in den Gerichtssaal, um ihre Mutter zu unterstützen. Schwester Rebbie war auch anwesend, was die AEG Anwälte dazu veranlasste, Einspruch zu erheben, da am Anfang des Prozesses vereinbart wurde, dass neben Mutter Katherine jeweils nur ein weiteres Familienmitglied dem Prozess beiwohnen dürfte (siehe unsere Meldung vom 5. Mai, Absatz 7). Janet konnte bleiben und Richterin Palazuelos sagte, die Sache würde zu einem späteren Zeitpunkt diskutiert werden. Es ist zu erwarten, dass die Befragung von Paul Gongaware durch Brian Panish, Anwalt für die Jacksons, einige Tage in Anspruch nehmen wird. Man darf gespannt darauf sein, was Paul Gongaware aussagen bzw. wie er sich verhalten wird.

Paul Gongaware war während Michael Jacksons “Dangerous” Tour der Tour Manager. Er sagte aus, dass er damals wusste, dass Michael Jackson Schmerzmittel verabreicht wurden, er jedoch bis zur öffentlichen Ankündigung, dass Michael die Tour abbrechen und sich in eine Reha-Klinik einweisen lasse, nicht wusste, wie ernsthaft das Problem war. Der Gerichtsreporter von der LA Times berichtete, wie Gongaware sich locker im Sessel zurückgelehnt hatte, als er von Brian Panish in dieser Sache befragt worden war. “Hatte keine Zeit”, so Gongaware. Schliesslich musste er ja seinen Job erledigen.

Paul Gongaware begann ca. 1976 für Concerts West zu arbeiten. Concerts West wurde später von AEG übernommen. Eine interessante Zusatzbemerkung von LA Times Journalistin Corina Knoll hierzu: “[Paul Gongaware] arbeitete an Elvis Presleys letzter Tour, die mit dem Tod des Künstlers endete”. Was wollte die Journalistin damit implizieren? Dass Paul Gongaware zwei Superstars auf dem Gewissen hat? Aber zurück zu dem, was sich im Gerichtssaal abspielte.

Als Brian Panish den Zeugen dann fragte, dass er in dem Fall wusste, was zu erwarten war, als Michael Jackson gestorben war, antwortete Gongaware: “Ich hatte so eine Idee, was geschehen würde, ja.”

Am 25. März 2009 schrieb Randy Phillips an Gongaware: “Wir müssen jetzt den Stecker rausziehen. Ich erklär’s dir noch.” Gongaware sagte, dass sich dies nicht auf die “This Is It” Shows bezog, sondern auf Karen Faye. “Wir haben nie darüber gesprochen, die Michael Jackson Tour zu beenden, nicht dass ich mich erinnern mag”, so Gongaware. In einer weiteren E-Mail vom 25. März schrieb Kenny Ortega an Gongaware, dass Faye davon “überzeugt ist, dass dies gefährlich und unmöglich ist, wenn man MJs Gesundheit und Fähigkeit zu performen in Betracht zieht”. Gongaware sagte dazu aus, dass er glaubte Kenny Ortega wollte Kayes Anstellung beenden aufgrund dessen, wie sie die Situation gehandhabt hatte. “Sie versuchte den Zugang zu Michael Jackson zu kontrollieren und Kenny mochte das nicht”, so Gongaware.

In einer anderen E-Mail machte Gongaware Michaels Arbeitsethik schlecht. Er sagte seinem Assistenten, er solle die Farben im Kalender ändern, so dass Michael meinte, er hätte mehr freie Tage. “Finde einen Weg, so dass es ausschaut, als arbeite er nicht so viel”, so die E-Mail.

Eine weitere E-Mail von Gongaware bezog sich auf den notwendigen Auftritt von Michael für die Ankündigung der Konzerttour in London. “Wir können nicht gezwungen werden, dies zu stoppen, was MJ versuchen wird, weil er faul ist und stets seine Meinung ändert, wie es ihm gerade lieb ist und passt”. Gongaware nahm Stellung dazu und erklärte im Zeugenstand, dass Michael Jackson es nie mochte zu proben. Er mochte diese Sachen nicht”. Dumme Frage hier, aber was hat diese Erklärung mit dem Inhalt der E-Mail zu tun?

In einem weiteren Teil der Befragung beschäftigte sich Brian Panish mit Gongawares Rolle betreffend das Budget für Conrad Murrays Dienste. Gongaware sagte aus, dass (obwohl er der Tour Manager war) er sich nicht um das Budget für die Tour kümmerte. Er vertraute darauf, dass der zuständige Buchhalter “wusste, wovon er sprach”. Und obwohl Conrad Murrays Lohn für mehrere Monate auf AEGs Budget aufgelistet war, betrachtete er es nicht als Geld, das dann auch wirklich ausbezahlt würde. “Potentielle Kosten werden ins Budget aufgenommen, so dass es später keine Überraschungen gebe”, so Gongaware.

Gongaware habe zweimal mit Conrad Murray telefoniert. Beim ersten Mal habe Murray USD 5 Mio. für seine Dienste verlangt, beim zweiten Mal war Murray mit USD 150’000 pro Monat einverstanden, einem Betrag, den Michael Jackson vorgeschlagen hatte. Conrad Murray habe zuerst gesagt, er wolle mehr. Als Gongaware ihm dann sagte, das Angebot käme von Michael Jackson, “akzeptierte er sofort”, sagte Gongaware aus. “Es war keine beschlossene Sache. Wir hatten uns auf die Lohnsumme geeinigt, aber es mussten noch viele weitere Sachen geklärt werden”, so Gongaware. Gongaware sagte ferner, dass er einen Freund von ihm, der Arzt war, gefragt hatte, wieviel er verlangen würde für diesen Job und dieser habe ihm gesagt USD 10’000 pro Woche, dh. USD 40’000 pro Monat.

Betreffend AEG Lives fehlendem Background Check von Conrad Murray sagte Gongaware, dass sie Murray im Rahmen ihres Standardverfahrens überprüft hätten. “Wenn wir jemanden überprüfen, verlassen wir uns entweder darauf, ob wir diese Person kennen oder sie in der Branche bekannt ist oder darauf, dass sie vom Künstler empfohlen wird. Und in diesem Fall wurde Conrad Murray vom Künstler empfohlen — der Künstler hat sogar auf ihn bestanden”.

Übrigens, nur so nebenbei, Mr. Gongaware, der Künstler hat einen Namen: Michael Jackson.

Sie hätten aber nichts gemacht um zu verifizieren, wer Conrad Murray sei und was er für einen Ruf habe, so Brian Panish. “Nun, Michael Jackson bestand auf in, empfahl ihn und das hat mir gereicht. Es liegt nicht an mir, Michael Jackson zu sagen, wer sein Arzt sein sollte”, so Gongaware. Panish fragte dann weiter: “Sie hätten Dr. Murray jederzeit sagen können, dass seine Dienste nicht länger benötigt waren, richtig?” Nein, so Gongaware. Aber AEG habe Michael Jacksons Kindermädchen entlassen, als ein Assistent von Michael Jackson das verlangt hatte, so Panishs Kommentar.

Als Panish Paul Gongaware zum Juni Meeting bei Michael Jackson zu Hause befragte, bei dem neben Michael noch weitere AEG Direktoren, Frank DiLeo und Conrad Murray anwesend waren, meinte Gongaware, dass es in dem einstündigen Meeting nicht darum ging, dass Michael nicht zu den Proben erschien, sondern darum, “ob Dr. Murray und Michael alles hatten, was sie brauchten, um sich um Michaels Gesundheit zu kümmern”. Daraufhin wurde den Geschworenen ein Polizeibericht, der das Meeting zusammenfasste, gezeigt. Darin stand: “Gegenstand des Meetings war Jacksons Gesundheit, dh. seine Ernährung, seine Ausdauer und sein Gewicht. Jackson war nicht zu Proben erschienen und man nahm an, er würde zu Hause tanzen. Jedoch fanden sie heraus, dass er sich nur Videos angeschaut hatte. Doktor Murray war empfänglich für die Bedenken [der andern] und sagte, er würde sich um die Situation kümmern”.

In einem separaten Meeting mit Michael Jackson habe Gongaware festgestelt, dass dessen Aussprache undeutlich war und er “ein bisschen Weg vom Fenster war… Ich glaube, er war unter dem Einfluss von irgendwas, denn etwas stimmte nicht mit ihm”.

Gongaware sagte auch aus, dass als sie Michael Jackson, den grössten Künstler seiner Zeit, für die Tour unter Vertrag nehmen konnten, diese eine riesen Sache war für AEG. In einer E-Mail im 2008 beschrieb Gongaware Randy Phillips gegenüber, wie sie Michael Jackson und seinen Manager für ein mögliches Comeback angehen sollten: “Wir müssen bei der Grundlagen anfangen. Wie packen wir es an. Der Unterschied zwischen [Live Nation] und uns ist riesig. Unser Fokus ist auf dem Künstler, sie sind Wall Street angetrieben. Wir sind schlaue Leute. Wir sind vollkommen ehrlich und transparent mit allem, was wir tun. So will es Phil [Anschutz, der Gründer von AEG]“.

Fortsetzung folgt.

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Jacksons vs AEG - Day 19 – May 29 2013 – Summary

Katherine and Rebbie Jackson are at court.

Paul Gongaware Testimony


Jackson direct

"My understanding Michael Jackson is a party (to the contract)," Gongaware said about Dr. Murray's contract. He said he never saw it, though.(ABC7) Gongaware told jury he’s never looked at Conrad Murray’s contract to serve as Michael Jackson’s tour doctor. (AP)

Panish: Why did AEG have to enter into a contract with Dr. Murray? Gongaware: I don't know. About AEG terminating Dr. Murray, Gongaware said he didn't believe they could do it, because he was Michael's doctor. Gongaware said it was fair to say he didn't know why AEG would enter into a contract with a doctor for Michael Jackson. Panish asked Gongaware if MJ negotiated the price/contract with Dr. Murray. "I believe he did through me, he instructed me what to offer" (ABC7)

Gongaware said he didn't know for sure whether Karen Faye was an independent contractor or not. (ABC7)

"Dr. Murray would've been 100% charged to Michael Jackson," Gongaware testified. (ABC7)

Gongaware said he didn't know what the $300k budgeted for medical management was for. (ABC7)

Panish tried 'impeaching' Gongaware, which is the process of calling into question the credibility of an individual who's testifying. Yesterday and today the plaintiffs' attorney would ask a question then play parts of the deposition to catch Gongaware in contradiction. (ABC7)

At one point, a portion of Gongaware’s deposition was played in which he discussed a meeting at Michael Jackson’s house with Conrad Murray. At depo, Paul Gongaware said the meeting “was about Dr. Murray and engaging him.” Gongaware later changed testimony to state “him” meant MJ. That change was read to the jury, leading attorney Brian Panish to question Gongaware about what he meant by word “engage.” “Here I think we were talking about making sure Michael Jackson was engaged and focused,” Gongaware said. (AP) Gongaware told the jury he was concerned in getting MJ involved and focused, engaged mentally. "I believe that was Kenny's concern, that he wanted him to be focus," Gongaware explained. MJ had gone before without rehearsing, Gongaware recalled. "When he got to London, MJ was going to be sensational." (ABC7) Gongaware said he thought at the meeting they discussed Jackson’s nutrition, not his health (i.e. sleep issues.) (AP)

Gongaware said Dr. Murray didn't discuss with him MJ's sleeping problems. In his deposition, Gongaware said he didn't remember. Panish asked Gongaware what made him remind that Dr. Murray didn't talk to him about MJ's sleeping problems; example of impeaching witness. (ABC7)

Panish asked Gongaware about another meeting at Jackson’s house in which the singer showed up late after a visit to Dr. Arnold Klein. “I didn't know what he was under the influence of, but he was a little bit off,” Gongaware said of the meeting. (AP) "I don't know way he was on, he was a little off," Gongaware said, adding that he didn't know what kind of drugs Dr. Klein was giving MJ. (ABC7)

Panish then asked Gongaware whether he was involved in getting Jackson a nutritionist. Lots of back-and-forth on this issue. Panish showed emails in which Gongaware emailed others at AEG telling them Jackson needed a nutritionist and physical therapist. “I was trying to find a nutritionist, but I wasn’t involved in his nutrition,” Gongaware said. (AP)

Obviously I was looking for a nutritionist for him, but I wasn't involved in his nutrition," Gongaware said. Panish played Gongaware's deposition where he said he was not involved in finding a nutritional person. Gongaware explained he believes nutritional person and nutritionist were not necessarily the same. (ABC7)

On June 15, 2009, Gongaware sent and emai to Ortega in response to request for nutritionist and physical therapist for MJ. Email: We're on it. AEG owns major sports teams in this market so we think we can find the right people quickly. Kenny responded: Super.Not a minute too soon. Let's turn this guy around! (ABC7)

Plaintiff’s attorney Brian Panish then asked Gongaware about a friend of AEG CEO Randy Phillips who was going to work with Jackson. Gongaware said he didn’t know whether this friend of Phillips was a nutrition specialist. He told Panish he’d have to ask Randy Phillips. (AP) Gongaware testified he remembers someone named David Loughner working with MJ. Panish pointed out Laughner is Randy Phillips' friend. "I don't know if he was a nutritionist, it was someone in charge of making MJ eat," Gongaware explained. Gongaware: He's a guy who's dealt with artists quite a bit Panish: Artists in trouble? Gongaware: Artists in general. Gongaware said he doesn't know what Laughner did, but he's seen him working with JLo and Enrique Iglesias. (ABC7)

Gongaware didn't know why MJ would need a nutritionist when he had a doctor hired. "Kenny asked for it," Gongaware explained. Gongaware said he told Dr. Murray he wanted him to have everything he needed. He said Michael Jackson had always been thin. (ABC7)

Gongaware said he didn't attend rehearsals frequently. "I was at the rehearsal facility at all the times but I wasn't in the arena much.". "We were always concerned about MJ's health and well being," Gongaware explained, saying he was responding to Kenny Ortega's requests. Gongaware said Kenny Ortega was responsible for keeping an eye on everything, including MJ and his health. (ABC7) AEG exec Paul Gongaware was then asked whether there was anyone responsible for handling AEG’s interests at rehearsals. Gongaware responded yes, that was Kenny Ortega. (AP)

Panish: Do you think Ortega was overreacting? Gongaware: Perhaps. I knew that when house lights went up, he was going to be there
Panish: You think Ortega was overreacting when raised concerns about MJ's health? Gongaware: I think I wasn't concerned as he was (ABC7)

"I was never concerned about Michael Jackson. I knew when the houselights went off, he would be there and on." (LATimes)

Panish asked Gongaware whether he thought Ortega was overreacting about Jackson’s health? “Perhaps,” Gongaware replied. “I knew when the house lights went out, he was going to be out there and on,” Gongaware said of Jackson. On whether Kenny Ortega was overreacting about Jackson’s health, Gongaware also said: “I wasn’t concerned as he was.” (AP)

Talking about the email Gongaware wrote saying he wanted to remind him (Dr. Murray) that it's AEG, not MJ, who's paying his salary. In his deposition, Gongaware said he didn't know what he meant to say in the email. Gongaware testified he spent some of the time himself looking at this email, putting it in context with the rest of the material he had. Panish: After meeting with your lawyers and talking about an hour or two about this email, did you refresh your memory what you meant? "I did come to conclusions a lot on my own, then I discussed it with my attorneys," Gongaware explained. Gongaware: After you go through you remember the facts Panish: You didn't have psychotherapy to refresh your recollection? G: No. "I still don't recall writing it," Gongaware said, "I don't recall writing it, but I admit I wrote it."(ABC7)

Plaintiff’s attorney Brian Panish asked him whether he’d met with AEG’s attorneys to refresh his memory. “It’s always been there,” Paul Gongaware said about whether his memory was refreshed by his lawyers. (AP)

Panish on Wednesday played for jurors a section of Gongaware's deposition, recorded in December, in which Jackson lawyer Kevin Boyle questioned him about what he meant when he wrote to Ortega, "We want to remind him that it is AEG, not MJ, who is paying his salary."
Boyle: "Based on the assumptions that AEG is your company and MJ is Michael Jackson, do you have an understanding of what that means?"
Gongaware: "No, I don't understand it, because we weren't paying his salary."
Boyle: "So why would you write that?"
Gongaware: "I have no idea."
Boyle: "Now, let's go on to the next sentence. When you say 'his salary,' who are you talking about?"
Gongaware: "I don't know."
Boyle: "Oh, but how do you know you weren't paying his salary if you don't know who we're talking about?"
Gongaware: "I don't remember this e-mail."
Boyle: "Didn't you just testify that 'we weren't paying his salary'?"
Gongaware: "AEG?"
Boyle: "Yes. No. You just testified 'we weren't paying his salary.' You just testified to that a few seconds ago, right?"
Gongaware: "I guess."
Boyle: "Well, whose salary were you referring to? Dr. Murray?"
Gongaware: "Yes."
After Gongaware began recalling in court Wednesday what he meant in the e-mail, Panish suggested it may be a case of "repressed memories" where "someone doesn't remember something for three or four years."
"You didn't have any psychotherapy to remember what you wrote here?" Panish asked. "You didn't like get put to sleep? (Judge Yvette Palazuelos injected: "Hypnotized?") to see if you remembered this?
"No," Gongaware answered. (CNN)

Panish went through every word of the email, which was to Kenny Ortega and Frank DiLeo. Panish: You're referring to Dr. Murray and what's expected of Dr. Murray, right? Gongaware: Yes"We did talk about Dr. Murray's salary, but a deal was never consummated," Gongaware said. "His responsibility was to take care of his patient," Gongaware said about Dr. Murray. Panish asked if he thought Dr. Murray knew what his responsibility was, so the need to remind him what's expected of him? "This thing was shorthand between me, Kenny and Frank," Gongaware explained. He said he should've been more careful choosing his words. He claimed he was referring to Kenny's email re nutritionist, physical therapist. "I certainly feel Dr. Murray should be competent to do that (be a nutritionist). He's a doctor!" Gongaware testified. Panish asked why Gongaware thought they needed a nutritionist when they had a doctor hired. "Kenny asked for one," he responded. (ABC7)

"If MJ were signed the contract and if MJ would've instructed us to pay him, we would've pay him," Gongaware said about Dr. Murray. (ABC7)

"I was writing in shorthand," Gongaware explained the email. Here's the email: Frank and I have discussed it already and have requested a face-to-face meeting with the doctor, hopefully Monday. We want to remind him that it is AEG, not MJ, who's paying his salary. We want him to understand what's expected of him. He's been dodging Frank so far. (ABC7)

“Frank and I have discussed it already and have requested a face-to-face meeting with the doctor, hopefully Monday," AEG Live co-CEO Paul Gongaware wrote on June 14, 2009, 11 days before Murray administered a fatal dose of the anesthetic propofol to the singer. "We want to remind him that it is AEG, not MJ who is paying his salary. We want him to understand what is expected of him." Confronted with the email as he sat on the witness stand Wednesday, Gongaware said he didn't recall writing it. “I don’t understand it because we weren’t paying his salary," Gongaware said. “So why were you writing it?" asked Brian Panish, the Jackson family's attorney. "I have no idea," Gongaware replied. The AEG executive later said the email was "shorthand" between him, tour director Kenny Ortega and Jackson's manager Frank Dileo. “I was going through hundreds of emails a day. If I knew lawyers four years later were picking everything apart, I may have been more careful choosing my words,” Gongaware testified. (LATimes)

"Michael didn't like to rehearse, it didn't surprise me," Gongaware expressed, saying it was known that MJ didn't go to rehearsals.(ABC7) He said Jackson didn't like to rehearse, that previously Jackson didn't rehearse before the "HIStory" tour either. But when the lights went up, Jackson was "on," he stated. (KABC)

In May, Gongaware sent an email to Tim Leiweke's secretary, Carla Garcia, wrote that he couldn't tell her which day the "This Is It" concerts would open in London because Jackson hadn't shown up to rehearsal (LATimes) asking her to pray for him, since everything was a nightmare. Email on 5/5/09 from Gongaware to Carla Garcia: Pray for me. This is a nightmare. Not coincidentally, I have them now every night. Cold sweats too. Life used to be so much fun... (ABC7) It was not an admission that he was concerned about Jackson's ability to do the show, he said. "It was just playing around, joking," with AEG President Tim Leiweke's assistant, Carla Garcia, he testified.

"Carla is an absolute babe and I was just chatting her up," he said. (CNN) "Carla is an absolute babe, I was trying to chat her up," Gongaware explained. "I wasn't trying to hit on her. I don't have cold sweats, I don't have nightmares, I sleep great!" Gongaware said. Panish asked him if he was lying in the email, white lie? Gongaware: Let's just say I was joking. Panish: You ask people to pray for you joking? G: I did there (ABC7) Gongaware said he was joking in the message. "I don't have cold sweats," he said. "I don't have nightmares. I sleep great." (AP)

Response from Phillips on Jun 20: Bugzee, I know because I just got Kenny's message on my voicemail.What did he do when he got there and what happened between him and KO? I have a meeting with MJ tomorrow morning. (ABC7)

From Hougdahl (Bugzee)to Phillips, cc'd Gongaware: MJ came out and watched all the pyro demonstration and endorsed the all the effects then went into his room and asked Kenny "you aren't going to kill the artist, are you?" We assumed this was reference to pyro, but Kenny said he was shaking and couldn't hold his knife and fork. Kenny had to cut his food for him before he could eat, and then had to use his fingers. I don't know how much embellishment there is to this, but (Kenny) said repeatedly that MJ was in no shape to go on stage. He kept going on and on how no one was taking responsibility for "getting him ready". We might be getting beyond ... damage control, here. (ABC7)

"I didn't worry about, it sounded like he was sick and they were going to talk about it next morning," Gongaware explained. (ABC7)

Phillips replied: Tim and I are going to see him tomorrow, however, I am not sure what the problem is. Chemical or physiological? (ABC7)

Gongaware said he was at a family wedding and wasn't really paying attention to this. This was 1st time he heard something was wrong with MJ (ABC7)

Gongaware responds: Take the doctor with you. Why wasn't he there last night? (ABC7)

"Yes, if he (MJ) was sick, why wasn't he (the doctor) there?" Gongaware said he meant in the email. (ABC7)

Phillips responded and added Tim Leiweke in the chain: He is not a psychiatrist so I'm not sure how effective he can be at this point. Obviously, getting him there is not the issue. It is much deeper. "I think Randy is stating his opinion," Gongaware said. (ABC7)

Panish asked if Gongaware inquired what Phillips meant by "the issue... It's much deeper." He said no. Gongaware: Well, there was going to be a meeting that day to discuss it Panish: We're you concern? Gongaware: Not necessarily. Panish: Nobody told you anything where Dr. Murray was? Gongaware: No P: And never sought to find out? G: No (ABC7)

Response from Hougdahl to Phillips, about needing trainer/therapist: I've watched him deteriorate in front of my eyes over the last 8 weeks. He was able to do multiple 360 spins back in April. He'd fall on his a** if he tried it now. (ABC7)

"There was a meeting on June 20th. I wasn't there, I was back East," Gongaware recalled. (ABC7)

Email from Phillips: Unfortunately, we are running out of time. That's my biggest fear. "He was afraid of that, I wasn't," Gongaware said. (ABC7) "That is my biggest fear," Phillips wrote to Gongaware and the CEO of AEG Live's parent company, Anschutz Entertainment Group, on June 20, 2009, five days before Jackson's death. Gongaware said he didn't agree with Phillips' assessment. "He may have said that, but I didn't agree with that," Gongaware testified.(AP)

Katherine Jackson's attorney questioned Gongaware about whether the company put too much emphasis on the showbiz maxim, "The show must go on." Gongaware denied that was the case. He told the jury that he was concerned about Jackson's health, but that he thought "This Is It" tour director Kenny Ortega may have been overstating concerns about the singer's wellbeing. (AP) Gongaware agreed that in this business, the show must go on. (ABC7)

Gongaware said AEG has a policy that they check people out either by knowing them, by being known in the industry or recommend by the artist. (ABC7)

Gongaware testified he didn't know when Dr. Murray's contract was to begin. "That contract was for London and the shows for London, I believe," Gongaware said. (ABC7)

Email on 6/20/09 from Phillips to LeiwekeComm and Kazoodi: This guy is really starting to concern me. Read his email and my response. Dr. Murray and I are meeting with MJ at 4pm today at The Forum. (ABC7) Phillips also expressed concerns about Ortega, writing to Gongaware's private email address, "This guy is really starting to concern me." Gongaware testified Wednesday that he wasn't sure who Phillips was referring to, and his boss may have been expressing concerns about Jackson or Murray. (AP)

Phillips sent this email to Leiweke and Gongaware's private email accounts. "Kazzodi" is a private email address that belongs to Gongaware. "The artist's health is paramount. Without the artist, there's no show. The artist if the most important thing," Gongaware testified. (ABC7)

Email on 6/19/09 from Phillips to Leiweke: We have a real problem here. (ABC7)

There was a meeting that was going to happen the next day, Gongaware said, and he waited to see what would come out of it. (ABC7)

Email on 6/19/09 from Leiweke to Phillips: Let's set up a time for your and I to meet with him. I want Kenny in the meeting as well. (ABC7)

Ortega wrote back: I will do whatever I can to be of help with this situation. My concern is now that we've brought the Doctor into the fold played the tough love, now or .He appeared quite weak and fatigued this evening. He had a terrible case of the chills, was trembling, rambling an obsessing. Everything in me says he should be psychologically evaluated. If we have any chance at all to get him back in the light it's going to take a strong Therapist to help him through this as well as immediate physical nurturing. I was told by our choreographer during the artists costume fitting w/ his designer tonight they noticed he's lost more weight.: As far as I can tell, there's no 1 taking responsibility (caring) for him on a daily basis. Where was his assistant tonight? Email cont'd: Tonight I was feeding him wrapping him in blankets to warm his chill, massaging his feet to calm him and calling his doctor. There were four security guards outside his door, but no one offering him a cup of hot tea. Finally, it's important 4 everyone 2 know I believe he really wants this. It would shatter him break his heart if we pulled plug. He's terribly frightened it's all going to go away. He asked me repeatedly tonight if i was going to leave him. He was practically begging for my confidence. It broke my heart. He was like a lost boy. There still may be a chance he can rise to the occasion if we get him the help he needs. (ABC7)

Phillips responded: Kenny, I will call you when I figure this out,we have a person like that, Brigitte, who's in London advancing his stay. We will bring her back asap and Frank, too, however, I'm stymied on who to bring in as a therapist and how they can get through to him in such a short time. (ABC7)

Gongaware said Brigitte is a lawyer who was in charge of accommodations for MJ in London. (ABC7)

"This all happened prior to the meeting, and I was waiting to understand what the situation was," Gongaware explained. (ABC7)

"I think they are special," Gongaware said about artists. Gongaware: He was obviously concerned Panish: Seriously concerned, right sir? Gongaware: Seemed to be (ABC7)

Email response from Philips to Kenny urging him, and everyone else, not to become amateur psychiatrists or physicians on 6/20/09. Email: "You cannot imagine the harm and ramifications of stopping this show now" (ABC7)

Panish: Can you name a single person at AEG who checked Dr. Murray out? Gongaware: I don't know if anyone did. I didn't know anything about him," Gongaware said about Dr. Murray. "Some people work for reasons other than money," Gongaware opined, but said he didn't know whether Dr. Murray was in that category. "I believe every doctor is unbiased and ethical," Gongaware said. "I think it's a natural assumption on my part." Gongaware: I never checked any doctor that I used. I just go by recommendation, never checked anyone's financial situation. (ABC7)

Gongaware said everyone thought MJ had all the money in the world, and it was not unusual for him to see people asking for a lot of money. Gongaware said he never heard before today anything about Dr. Murray's financial conditions. (ABC7)

Panish: He knew MJ's health was declining based on what the doctor told I'm, right? Gongaware: Based on what his doctor told him, yes (ABC7)

"I did talk to him and he said the meeting went well," Gongaware recalled. (ABC7)

"This guy is starting to concern me," Phillips wrote in an email to Leiweke, Gongaware and Frank DiLeo. "It is not clear to me who 'this guy' is," Gongaware said. "I don't know what Randy meant here," Gongaware explained. "I can easily take 'this guy' is MJ here." (ABC7)

Gongaware said he was in a family wedding, hadn't seen the family for a long time and was not paying attention to work. Gongaware said he produced every email he had related to this case. (ABC7)

Email on 6/22/09 from Hougdahl (Production Manager, known as Bugzee) to Gongaware: Further to the earlier email Let's keep our 2 docu people out of here today, unless they stay in the dressing room area only. Tomorrow is another story... (ABC7)

Panish: Sir, Michael was sick this time, wasn't sir? Gongaware: I don't know, he showed up next day and was great! Panish: But you were not at the rehearsal, sir? Gongaware: I saw reports (ABC7)

Panish then asked Gongaware about his attendance at Jackson’s rehearsals. Gongaware said he didn’t attend many. Gongaware said he watched Jackson perform “Thriller” two days before he died, but that was the only time he spent at that rehearsal. (AP) Panish talking about June 24th rehearsing: "He appeared to me to be fully engaged," Gongaware said. "I recall seeing Thriller because it was the first time they were rehearsing with the costume and I wanted to see it," Gongaware said. (ABC7)



Zusammenfassung von Ivy MJJC #21


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Zusammenfassungen der vorangegangenen gerichtstage:
Day 1 - anträge u. eröffnungsstatements
Day 2 - anhörung und zeugen Senneff u. Martinez
Day 3 - forts. zeuge Martinez u. anhörung
Day 4 - forts. zeuge Martinez
Day 5 - zeugen Anderson und Rogers
Day 6 - zeuge Dr. Wohlgelernter
Day 7 - zeugin Sankey
Day 8 - zeugin Faye
Day 9 - forts. zeugin Faye
Day 10 - zeugen Walker, Rogers, Payne
Day 11 - forts. zeuge Payne
Day 12 - zeugin Hollander
Day 13 - M. Hom videodeposition, forts. zeugin Hollander
Day 14 - forts. zeugin Hollander; zeuge Trell
Day 14 fortsetzung - forts. zeuge Trell
Day 16 - forts. zeuge Trell
Day 17 - forts. zeuge Trell
Day 18 - zeuge Gongaware

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Originaldokumente der eröffnungsstatements (MJJC #1 ff.)

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Michael Jackson Trial: 5 Newest Developments in the
Estate's Case Against AEG
Tensions rose during Tuesday's court session when AEG Live's Co-CEO Paul Gongaware
took the stand for the first time

Published: May 28, 2013 @ 9:02 pm

The Katherine Jackson vs. AEG trial entered its second month in a downtown Los Angeles courtroom on Tuesday.

Among the day's court proceedings was the first appearance of AEG Live Co-CEO and former Jackson tour manager Paul Gongaware, who is being sued along with AEG and AEG Live's CEO and President Randy Phillips. Gongaware testified during a tense courtroom examination by Jackson attorney Brian Panish. Janet Jackson, who showed at court for the first time since the trial began, was seated next to her mother Katherine.

The ongoing trial is over a wrongful death lawsuit filed by Katherine Jackson and Michael's children, Paris, Prince and Blanket, against concert promoter AEG. The suit claims AEG was responsible for negligently hiring Dr. Conrad Murray, currently serving four years for involuntary manslaughter over Jackson's death on June 25, 2009 from a fatal dose of Propofol. AEG contends that they never hired the doctor, claiming he was employed by Jackson himself.

Here's a look at the 5 latest developments in the Michael Jackson Estate vs. AEG trial:

1. Emphasizing AEG's "honesty" and "transparency," Gongaware denied to Panish that he had ever tried to deceive Michael Jackson. However an email that Gongaware wrote and sent to AEG executives in 2008, which was displayed on screens in the courtroom, said, "Net to Mikey 132 million..It's a big number but this is not a number MJ will want to hear. He thinks he's so much bigger than that. If we use show income it's over a quarter of a billion dollars. His net share works out to be 50 percent after local venue and ad costs which is quite good. His gross is half a billion. Maybe gross is a better number to throw around if we need to use numbers with Mikey listening."

In an email Gongaware sent in March, 2009 to his assistant Kelly DiStefano, her instructions were to alter Jackson's schedule to make it look like his schedule wasn't as grueling. "Change the color for the actual shows to something like first one you used like a light tan or something. I don't want the shows to stand out so much when MJ looks at it... Figure it out so it looks like he's not working so much." When queried by Panish over why he gave such instructions to his assistant, Gongaware, who claimed during his deposition that he had no knowlege of his motivation, said, "I didn't want him to misread it so he thought he was working more than he was. I was trying to present it in the best possible light."

2. Upon viewing some of his own emails which he couldn't recall writing or sending, Panish asked Gongaware, "Sir, have you have been having a problem with identity theft? Is someone writing emails under your name?" During his deposition, Gongaware denied any written connection to a "This Is It" press conference in which Jackson was set to introduce the film to critics and media. Jackson was also scheduled to introduce the "This Is It" tour in London. Gongaware wrote, "We can not be forced into stopping this which MJ will try to do because he's lazy and constantly changes his mind to fit his immediate wants." Gongaware testified Tuesday that "lazy" was a "poor choice of words" and he had just meant to convey that Jackson didn't like doing promotion. As to Gongaware's inability to recall certain emails that he had written and sent, he said, "Those were written three and a half years ago and I was doing hundreds of emails a day."

3. Despite an email sent to "This is It" tour business manager Timm Woolley by Gongaware which approved tour charges, including a house for Dr. Murray in London, he claims budget approvals by him were merely a "technical" task included in his job "but that he had never read any of it at the time." Jackson attorney Panish pounced, asking: "Your custom of practice when reviewing budgets on a $34 million project is that you don't review them?" Gongaware said he didn't feel it was necessary to respond given that Woolley and he both reached an understanding of the process. When asked pointblank if it was his job to approve budgets, Gongaware gave an evasive answer saying, "It's my job to get the show on the road." His answer prompted Panish to repeat the question. Gongaware conceded that it's his job to approve budgets, but explained that budgets are constantly in flux during production and are only adjusted and settled once a tour is over.

4. Gongaware repeatedly denied having employed Dr. Murray, saying "I never hired him" and "Michael asked me to retain him." Gongaware was then shown a video of an interview (which he claimed he's never seen prior to Tuesday) in July 2009 in which AEG CEO/President Randy Phillips talked about Dr. Murray to Sky News saying, "We just felt this is his personal doctor and he wants him 24/7 and he's willing to leave his practice for a very large sum of money." As to why a background check was not run on Dr. Murray, Gongaware justified it by saying, "Michael Jackson insisted on him, recommended him, and that was good enough for me. It's not for me to tell Michael Jackson who his doctor should be....he wanted a doctor and I wanted him to be healthy for this tour." When quizzed on whether he had the authority to hire or fire Dr. Murray, Gongaware said, "I don't think so. He worked directly for Mr. Jackson." However Panish reminded the courtroom that Gongaware had actually terminated Jackson's nanny and so it would seem he could equally have terminated Dr. Murray too if he wanted to do so.

5. The court reviewed a June 2009 meeting held at Jackson's Carolwood home with Michael Jackson, Dr. Murray, AEG CEO/President Randy Phillips, Frank DiLeo (Jackson's former manager) and "This Is It" tour director Kenny Ortega. Gongaware stressed that the meeting was not about Jackson's health, but just to make sure that Dr. Murray had everything he would need to care for Jackson properly. But his testimony during Conrad Murray's criminal trial seem to contradict the statements he made to the court on Tuesday. Gongaware testified at Michael's criminal trial, in Sept. 28, 2011, that "This is It" tour director Kenny Ortega had requested the meeting over concerns about Michael's absences from rehearsal, as well as his health. Additionally, a police report filed after Gongaware was interviewed by Los Angeles Police Department references the meeting, saying that Gongaware told police the main topic of the meeting was "Jackson's overall health - diet, stamina and his weight. Jackson had missed a rehearsal and was thought to be dancing at home. However they discovered he was only watching video. Doctor Murray was receptive to their concerns and indicated he would take care of the situation." When Panish showed the police report on screens in the courtroom, Gongaware flat out denied having said that to police and said, "I think the police have it wrong."

http://www.thewrap.com/music/article/draft-jackson-trial-pamela-94186

Übersetzung der Punkte im Bericht oben, Aussage Gongaware:

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1. In einer Email die Gongaware im März 2009 an seinen Assistanten Kelly Di Stefano sandte, gab er Anweisungen Mjs Terminplan zu verändern, damit es aussähe, als sei er weniger strapaziös.
„Ändere die Farbe für die eigentlichen Shows in etwas wie das , was du zuerst gebraucht hast, diese helle Farbe... Ich will nicht, das die Shows so herausstechen, wenn MJ den Plan ansieht... Mach es so, das es aussieht, als müsse er nicht so viel arbeiten.“
Als Panish ihn fragte, warum er solche Anweisungen gab, sagte Gongaware der während seiner eidesstattlichen Aussage sagte, er wüsste nicht, was ihn dazu motivierte: „Ich wollte nicht, dass er es falsch verstehen würde, und dass er denken würde, er müsse mehr arbeiten, wie er wirklich arbeitete. Ich wollte es im besten Licht zeigen.“

2. Als er ein paar seiner eigenen Mails ansah, an die er sich nicht erinnern konnte, sie geschrieben oder geschickt zu haben, fragte Panish Gongaware:
„Sir, hatten sie ein Problem mit Identitätsbetrug? Hat jemand in ihrem Namen Mails geschickt?"
Während der Eidesstattlichen Aussage hatte Gongaware jede schriftliche Verbindung bezgl. Der TII Presse Konferenz. Jackson sollte laut Plan die TII-Tour in London ankündigen bestritten
Gongaware schrieb:
„Wir können uns nicht zwingen lassen, das zu stoppen, was MJ versuchen wird, weil er faul ist und ständig seine Meinung ändert, um es passend zu seinen momentanen Bedürfnissen zu machen.“
Dienstag sagte Gongaware aus, „faul“ sei eine armselige Wortwahl. Und es wollte nur damit sagen, dass MJ die Promotion/Ankündigung nicht mochte. Dazu, dass er sich nicht mehr an Mails, die er schrieb und verschickte erinnern konnte meinte er: „Die wurden vor 3,5 Jahren geschrieben und ich habe Hundert mails pro Tag.“

3. Wegen einer Mail von Gongaware an Tourmanager Timm Wooley, in der Tour Ausgaben bewilligt wurden, darunter auch ein Haus für Murray in London, sagt er, Budget Genehmigungen seine ein rein technischer Vorgang, was zu seinem Job gehöre, aber er habe nie eine davon gelesen.
Panish fragte nach: „Ihre gewöhnliche Praxis, wenn sie Budgets von 34 Mio.$ genehmigen ist, dass sie es nicht überprüfen?“
Gongaware sagt, er dachte es sei nicht nötig, weil er mit Wooley in dieser Sache schon einer Meinung war. Nochmal nachgefragt, ob es sein Job sei, Budgets zu überprüfen, gab er die ausweichende Antwort: „ Mein Job ist es, die Show auf den Weg zu bringen.“ Sein Job sei, Budgets zu überprüfen, aber Budgets seien ständig in Bewegung, während der Produktion und werden nur angepasst und stehen erst fest, wenn die Tour vorüber ist.

4. Gongaware stritt wiederholt ab, Murray angestellt zu haben. Er sagte: „ich habe ihn nie eingestellt“ und „ Michael fragte mich ihn zu beauftragen.“ Sie zeigten ihm dann ein Video mit einem Interview (von dem er sagte, er habe es zuvor nie gesehen) von Juli 2009, in dem R. Phillips über mit Sky News über Murray sprach: „Wir dachten, das ist sein persönlicher Arzt und er wolle ihn 24/7 und er war bereit, seine Praxis für eine hohe Summe Geld zu verlassen.“

Zur Frage, warum bei Murray kein Backgroundchek vorgenommen wurde sagte Gongaware:
„MJ bestand auf ihn, empfahl ihn, und das hat für mich gereicht. Es ist nicht an mir, MJ zu sagen, wer sein Arzt zu sein hat...Er wollte einen Arzt und ich wollte, dass er bei der Tour gesund ist.“
Gefragt, ob er die Genehmigung hatte, Murray einzustellen oder zu feuern, sagt Gongaware: „Ich glaube nicht, er arbeitete direkt für MJ.“
Panish erinnerte daran, dass Gongaware aber Jacksons Nanny entlassen hatte, und dass es doch schien, als hätte er das mit Murray auch tun können, wenn er gewollt hätte.

5. Zum Meeting im Juni 2009 in Jacksons Zuhause, an dem Michael Jackson, Dr. Murray, AEG CEO/President Randy Phillips, Frank DiLeo (Jackson's EX- Manager) und "This is it" tour director Kenny Ortega teilnahmen:
Gongaware sagte, das Meeting habe nicht wegen Jacksons Gesundheit stattgefunden, es ging nur darum, festzustellen, ob Murray alles habe, was er brauche um richtig für MJ zu sorgen.
Aber seine Aussage im Murray Prozess scheint dem zu wiedersprechen, was er Dienstag vor Gericht sagte.
Im Murray Prozess, im Sept. 201, sagte Gongaware aus, Ortega habe ein Meeting einberufen, wegen Bedenken über Mjs Abwesenheit von den Proben und auch wegen Bedenken zu seiner Gesundheit.
Auch in einem Polizeibericht wird sich auf dieses Meeting bezogen, und Gongaware hatte der Polizei gesagt, es ginge um:
„Jacksons Gesundheit, Ernährung und Gewicht. Jackson habe Proben versäumt und man dachte, er tanze zuhause. Aber dann hätten sie entdeckt, er schaute nur Videos. Murray beachtete ihre Bedenken und sagte, er würde sich um die Situation kümmern.“
Als Panish diesen Polizeibericht vorlegte, bestritt Gongaware das glatt heraus und sagte: „Ich glaube, die Polizei hat das falsch verstanden.“

http://www.mjjackson-forever.com/index.php?page=Thread&threadID=5568&pageNo=3

[Christine3110]

Panish: Waren sie immer ehrlich zu MJ?
Gongaware: Ich denke schon.
Panish: Haben Sie mit Zahlen um sich geworfen, um MJ auszutricksen?
Gongaware: Ich habe nicht versucht Michael auszutricksen.


Während der BAD-Tour wurden 10 Stadien mit 75.000 Tickets pro Nacht ausverkauft.
"Das ist ne ganze Menge?" fragte Panish. "Riesig" antwortete Gongaware.

Panish: Wieviel Tickets wurden in 2 Stunden verkauft?
Gongaware: Bei den ersten Vorverkäufen 31 Shows.
Panish: Die schnellsten die Sie je gesehen haben?
Gongaware: Ja.

" Niemand wußte wieviele Shows wir mit Mikey bekommen würden" sagte PG.
Panish fragte nach dem Namen "Mikey" - er sagte, er benutze ihn gelegentlich.



Email v. 27.2.09 v. Gongaware an Phillips:
"Wir tragen das ganze Risiko, wenn MJ nicht zustimmt, machen wir es ohne seine Zustimmung. Wir werden Mikey wissen lassen was es ihn kosten wird, in Bezug auf seinen Gewinn. Wir werden mit oder ohne ihn nach London gehen. Wir können nicht gezwungen werden dies zu stoppen, was MJ versuchen wird, nur weil er träge ist u. ständig seine Meinung ändert um das zu bekommen was er gerade will."

In Erläutering dieser Email sagte Gongaware aus, das Wort "lazy" (träge) bezog sich darauf, dass MJ "es wirklich nicht mochte zu proben. Solche Sachen mag er überhaupt nicht."

"Den Leuten war zu diesem Zeitpunkt klar, dass es eine Pressekonferenz geben würde.
Michael mochte sowas nicht, aber es war wichtig Michael der Welt zu zeigen, wenn er eine MJ-Show machen wollte."
erklärte Gongaware. Wäre Michael nicht erschienen, hätte es Geld gekostet. "Aber es war kein besonders großes Risiko, wir hatten noch nicht viel Geld investiert."




Den Juroren wurden mehrere Emails von Gongaware gezeigt, die laut Jacksons Anwälten beweisen würden, dass AEG Live Michael vorsätzlich darüber in die Irre geführt hätten, wieviel er mit den Comeback-Konzerten verdienen würde u. wieviel Tage Pause er zw. den Konzerten hätte. Gongaware schrieb seinem Boss R. Phillips, dass er MJ während der Vertragsverhandlungen die Höhe der Ticketverkäufe präsentieren sollte u. nicht die Prozentzahl seines Nettoprofits.

Panish sprach über eine Email die PG an seine Sekretärin sandte, in der er sie bat, die Farbe auf MJs Tour-Kalender zu ändern.
"Ich will nicht, dass die Shows zu sehr herausstechen wenn MJ auf den Kalender schaut. Schau zu, dass es so aussieht, als würde er nicht so viel arbeiten."

Panish: Haben Sie versucht ihn zu täuschen?
Gongaware: Nein, das wollte ich nicht, ich wollte ihn im bestmöglichen Licht dastehen lassen.

Es sei ganz eindeutig gewesen, wann MJ hätte arbeiten müssen u. wann nicht.



Gongaware bestätigte, dass es für AEG eine riesige Sache gewesen sei, MJ , den er für den größten Künstler seiner Zeit hielt, an Land zu ziehen.
In einer Email 2008 an AEG LIVE Präsident R. Phillips, beschrieb Gongaware wie die Firma sich Jackson u. seinem Manager für eine mögliche Comeback-Tour annähern sollte.
Wir müssen mit dem Wesentlichen beginnen. Wie wir es machen. Der Unterscheid zw. LIVE NATION und uns ist groß. Wir sind künstlerbezogen, sie werden von der Wall Street diktiert," schreib Gongaware. "Wir sind smarte Menschen. Wir sind total ehrlich und transparent in allem was wir tun. Das ist wie Anschütz es will."

Gongaware sagte, dass er mit Elvis Presley auf seiner Tour gearbeitet habe.
Panish fragte, ob Elvis an einer Medikamentenüberdosis gestorben sei u. Gongaware antwortete mit ja.
In einer Kondolenzmail an einen Freund v. 5.7.09 schrieb er:
"Ich war mit Elvis auf Tour als er starb, ich hab eine Ahnung was nun auf uns zukommt. Ich bin immer noch total geschockt."

Panish fragte: "Also ahnten sie ziemlich genau was auf Sie zukommen würde, als MJ starb, stimmt das Sir?"
"Ich konnte mir vorstellen was passieren würde, ja" antwortete Gongaware.


Gongaware bestätigte , dass er den Vertrag für den Arzt verhandelt habe, den Michael sich aussuchte um ihn zu begleiten. Aber er bezeugte, dass seine einzige Aufgabe darin bestand, das Honorar für CM Leistungen auszuhandeln, entsprechend dem was MJ ihm auftrug.
"Die Tatsache, dass er (CM) seit 3 Jahren MJs persönl. Arzt war, war gut genug für mich."
"MJ bestand darauf und hat ihn empfohlen und es stand mir nicht zu ihm das abzuschlagen. Ich wollte ihn in allem unterstützen was für ihn nötig war, um seinen Job zu machen.
Er wollte einen Arzt u. ich wollte , dass er gesund ist."

Ob er wußte, dass Murray finanzielle Schwierigkeiten hatte, als er den Job eines Tourarztes annahm, beantwortete Gongaware mit nein.
Er sagte, dass CM ursprünglich 5 Mio. $ verlangte um mit MJ nach London zu reisen u. ihn während der Tour zu betreuen.
"Ich sagte ihm, das könne er sich abschminken" sagte PG , Michael habe ihn dann vorgeschlagen CM 150.000 $ im Monat anzubieten.

Aber selbst nach dem 150.000 Dollar Angebot war CM nicht zufrieden. "Er begann zu verhandeln u. wollte mehr u. ich sagte, dass dieses Angebot direkt vom Künstler kam".
Minuten später habe CM akzeptiert. Ob ihm das aus Verzweifllung vorkam, fragte Panish. "Nein, er akzeptierte einfach Michaels Angebot."



zu Michaels Tour-Vertrag:

"Ich habe nie den Vertrag gelesen, ich war zwar anwesend als Michael ihn unterschrieb, aber wußte nicht, was darin stand".
"Doc Murrays Gehalt ging zu 100% auf Michaels Kosten", sagte PG. Basierend auf den Vertrag, lagen 95% der Produktionskosten in Michaels Verantwortung, 5% in AEGs.
Panish fragte , wer die Entscheidung traf, dass es einen schriftl. Vertrag mit CM geben sollte..."Weiß ich nicht" sagte PG.


Zu den Treffen in Michaels Haus:


PG sagte, er erinner sich nicht wie oft er an Treffen in Carolwood teilgenommen hat. Er erinnerte sich nicht an ein Meeting, wo eine Vase zu Bruch ging.
"Es gab da ein Treffen, wo er den Vertrag unterschrieb, es gab mehrere, aber er könne sich nicht an die Einzelheiten erinnern.
Bei dem Meeting Anfang Juni, wo er, Kenny Ortega, Randy P. Frank DiLeo , Dr. Murray u. Michael anwesend waren, sei es darum gegegangen sicher zu stellen, das CM alles hatte was er brauchte um sich um Michael zu kümmern, erklärte Gongaware.
"Ja wir sprachen über grundsätzliche gesundheitliche Dinge. Es ging darum, was CM benötigte."
Er sagte, dass Michael etwas neben sich stand. "Er kam gerade von einem Besuch bei Dr. Klein zurück. Ich hatte das Gefühl er stand unter Einfluß von irgendwas. Es war das einzigste Mal, dass ich ihn so sah."



Panish: " Hätten sie CM zu irgendeiner Zeit sagen können, dass seine Dienste nicht länger benötigt werden?"
Gongaware: "Nein."
Panish erwähnte dann, dass er ja aber auch die Nanny Grace W. gefeuert habe, nachdem Michael in darum gebeten habe.





Email v. 25.3.09 PG and RP: "Es ist ihre (Faye) Überzeugung, dass es gefährlich u. unnötig für Michael sei , in seinem Zustand zu performen."
Email v. 25.3.09 Antwort v. PG: "Ich weiß nicht, was ich dazu sagen soll.Ich verstehe nicht...
RP antwortete: ""We need to pull the plug now. Ich werde es erklären."


Panish: Mr. Phillips wollte mit der Show schlußmachen, richtig?
Gongaware: Ich denke er meinte damit Kare Faye. Wir haben niemals in diesem Zusammenhang über Michaels Tour gesprochen, nicht dass ich mich erinnere. Sie versuchte den Zugang zu Michael zu kontrollieren u. Kenny gefiel das nicht. Sie äußerte starke Bedenken, dass die Tour für MJ gefährlich und unnütz sei."



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Ich finde das alles (diese Twitter der Reporter) sehr verwirrend...und sie können auch nicht die ganze Aussage von Gongaware wiedergeben.
MJJC versuchen das Geld zusammen zu bekommen, um das Transcript dieses Verhandlungstages zu kaufen, damit man sich ein richtiges Bild von der Zeugenaussage machen kann.

[Lena]

Zusammenfassung der bisherigen Aussage von Gongaware anhand der Medienberichte von Ivy, MJJC.

http://www.mjjcommunity.com/forum/threads/129265-Katherine-Jackson-vs-AEG-Live-Daily-Trial-Testimony-Summary/page2?p=3832152#post3832152

Jacksons vs AEG - Day 18 – May 28 2013 – Summary

Katherine, Janet, Rebbie and Randy Jackson are in court. Only one the siblings were allowed in the courtroom as they are potential witnesses. Janet Jackson accompanied Katherine during morning session while Rebbie was with her during the afternoon session.

Paul Gongaware Testimony

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Paul Gongaware is one of the defendants in the case. He's an adverse witness called by the plaintiffs. Gongaware is Co-CEO of Concerts West, part of AEG Live. Gongaware has toured with Beach Boys, Led Zeppelin and is currently on your with The Rolling Stones. He worked for Jerry Weintraub in 80s (ABC7)

He produced Prince's tour in 2004. He has not promoted/produced tours since. Gongaware has not talked to Prince after the tour. (ABC7)

Gongaware was a CPA licensed in NY and Washington. He said he believes he's still licensed but hasn't checked status since there's no need (ABC7)

Gongaware testified that landing Jackson, whom he felt was the biggest artist of his era, was huge for AEG. In a 2008 email to AEG Live President and Chief Executive Randy Phillips, Gongaware described how the company should approach Jackson and his manager about a possible comeback tour. “We need to start at the fundamentals. How we do it. The difference between [Live Nation] and us is huge. We are artist-based, they are Wall Street-driven,” Gongaware wrote. "We are smart people. We are completely honest and transparent with everything we do. That’s how [founder] Phil [Anschutz] wants it.(LATimes)

Gongaware said he worked on Elvis Presley tour. Panish asked if Elvis died of drug overdose, and Gongaware said yes. Gongaware replied to a condolences' email on July 5, 2009: "I was working on the Elvis tour when he died, so I kind of knew what to expect." (ABC7) "I was working on the Elvis tour when he died so I kind of knew what to expect," Gongaware wrote in an e-mail to a friend two weeks after Jackson died. "Still quite a shock." (CNN)

“So you knew what to expect when Michael Jackson passed away, is that right, sir?” Brian Panish asked.
“I kind of knew what was going to happen, yes,” Gongaware answered.(LATimes)

Despite working as a tour promoter for 37 years -- including for Led Zeppelin, the Grateful Dead and many others -- Gongaware testified that the only artist he ever knew that was using drug on tour was Rick James. (CNN). Gongaware testified he worked with another artist who had drug problems: Rick James. (ABC7)

Panish skipped around, asked about name Concerts West, assets. About working for Jackson 5, Gongaware said had no interaction w/ MJGongaware worked on MJ's Dangerous tour in 92-93. Panish said MJ made $100 million and donated it to charity. Gongaware said he didn't know. (ABC7)

When Gongaware met Jackson was with Colonel Parker (Elvis' manager) in Las Vegas. MJ wanted to meet the Colonel. (ABC7)

Gongaware explained the difference between being tour manager and managing the tour. He talked about MJ's History tour, various legs, job (ABC7)

Panish: You knew that MJ had been to rehab during the dangerous tour? Gongaware: Yes, based on the statement he made after the tour. Gongaware said he never knew MJ was involved with drugs until after the end of the Dangerous tour. Gongaware told LAPD he was aware of Jackson's previous use of pills/painkillers but did not want to get involved. (ABC7) Gongaware had known for years that Michael Jackson was taking painkillers but wasn’t aware he was abusing them until MJ abruptly canceled his Dangerous world tour in the early 1990s to enter rehab. Gongaware testified that although he was the manager of the Dangerous tour and knew Jackson was being given painkillers, he didn’t know how serious the problem was until the singer made a public announcement during the tour about his decision to check into rehab. (LAtimes) Gongaware testified that he was a logistics manager on Michael’s “Dangerous” tour in 1993 but never knew about the King of Pop’s addiction to pain meds until the iconic entertainer publicly announced his need for rehab. Gongaware said he knew of “two occasions” when Michael used painkillers between shows, but he claimed he didn’t grasp the scope of the singer’s sickness until the taped 1993 announcement.“I would dispute knowing that he had a problem,” Gongaware said. “I wasn’t aware that there were problems.” (NYDailyNews)

Gongaware said he knew a doctor was medicating Jackson during the Dangerous tour but did not find out why the tour was eventually cut short.
“Didn’t have time,” Gongaware said. “I was just dealing with what was in front of me.” (LATimes)

Panish said Dr. Finkelstein testified under oath that Gongaware knew MJ had problems w/ painkillers before the end of Dangerous tour ended. Panish: Do you dispute that? (Finkelstein testimony) Gongaware: I knew that he had pain. (ABC7)

Gongaware said Dr. Finkelstein is his doctor and friend and that they talk off and on, but he doesn't know specifics of the doctor's deposition. Dr. Finkelstein said he gave MJ painkillers after concert in Bangkok after Michael had scalp surgery. In Gongaware's video deposition: Did you ever ask Dr. Finkelstein if he treated MJ during the Dangerous tour? He wouldn't take about that stuff. Another part of Gongaware's video depo: He said yes, he occasionally treated Michael Jackson on the Dangerous tour. (ABC7)

Panish: Were you always honest with MJ? Gongaware: I believe I was. Panish: Did you throw around numbers to trick Michael Jackson? Gongaware: I didn't try to trick Michael (ABC7)

Panish elicited contradictory testimony asking over and over about Gongaware's memory, how long he spent with lawyers to discuss testimony. (ABC7)

On the Bad Tour MJ sold out 10 stadiums at 75,000 tickets per night.
Panish: That's a pretty big number?
Gongaware: Huge (ABC7)

Panish: In 2 hours, how many tickets sold?
Gongaware: In initial presale we sold 31 shows
Panish: The fastest you had ever seen?
Gongaware: Yes (ABC7)

"No one knows how many shows we can get with Mikey," said Gongaware. Panish asked about name "Mikey" - he said he used it occasionally (ABC7)


Email on 2/27/09 from Gongaware to Phillips: We are holding all of the risk, if MJ won't t approve it we go without his approval.We let Mikey know just what it will cost him in terms of him making money, and the we go with or without him in London. We cannot be forced into stopping this, which MJ will try to do because he is lazy and constantly changes his mind to fit his immediate wants. (ABC7) Explaining the email, Gongaware testified that Jackson "really didn’t like to rehearse. He didn’t like to do these kinds of things." (LATimes) Gongaware said his use of “Mikey” was affectionate, not disparaging, and that the “lazy” crack amounted to a “poor choice of words” but one that accurately reflected how Michael “really didn’t like to rehearse” or “do these kinds of things.” (NYDailyNews)

"People were aware at this point there would be a press conference. MJ wouldn't show up at the conference, it'd cost money," Gongaware said. "It wasn't much risk at all, we hadn't spent money," Gongaware said about that point of the tour. This was prior to news conference. (ABC7)

Gongaware said the situation in London, where they constantly referred to MJ as "***** *****", it would impact marketability to sell tickets (ABC7)

"He doesn't want to do this kind of things, but it was important to show MJ to the world if he wanted to do a MJ show," Gongaware explained. (ABC7)

Jurors were shown several e-mails from Gongaware that Jackson lawyers suggested were evidence that AEG Live deliberately misled Jackson about how much money he would make from his comeback concerts and how many days he would have to rest between shows. Gongaware wrote to his boss, AEG Live President Randy Phillips, that they should present gross ticket sales numbers to Jackson, not the percentage of the net profits, during contract talks. "Maybe gross is a better number to throw around if we use numbers with Mikey listening," his e-mail said. (CNN)

Panish talked about an email Gongaware sent to his secretary asking her to change the color on MJ's calendar.
Email: "don't want the shows to stand out do much when MJ looks at it. Figure out so it looks like he's not working so much. Panish: Did you wanted to change the color of the schedule to show MJ would not be working so hard? Gongaware: Yes. Panish: Were you trying to fool him? Gongaware: Nah, I wasn't trying to fool him, I wanted to present it in the best possible light. Gongaware said it would be obvious when MJ would be working and not and he wasn't trying to trick him. (ABC7) "Figure it out so it looks like he's not working so much." Gongaware email request to alter MJ's schedule. "I wasn't trying to fool him. I wanted to present it in the best possible light." Gongaware on altering look of MJ's schedule (LATimes)

He sent an e-mail to his assistant in March 2009 suggesting that she design a concert calendar for Jackson using light tan colors for show dates, while drawing attention to his rest days. "I don't want the shows to stand out so much when MJ looks at it. Less contrast between work and off. Maybe off days in a contrasting soft color. Put 'OFF' in each off day after July 8, as well. Figure it out so it looks like he's not working so much."Under questioning Tuesday, Gongaware said he "wasn't trying to fool him. I wanted to present it in the best possible light." (CNN)


Email on 3/25/09 from Phillips to Gongaware: "We need to pull the plug now. I will explain."
Panish: Mr. Phillips wanted to pull the plug on the show, right sir? Gongaware: I think he was referring to pull the plug on Karen Faye. "We never talked about pulling the plug on MJ tour. Not that I recall," Gongaware testified. "Kenny wanted the pull because the way she (Faye) handled the situations," Gongaware explained. "She tried to control access to MJ and Kenny didn't like that," Gongaware said. Karen Faye expressed strong opinion that the tour as dangerous and impractical for MJ. Panish asked about a chain of emails where Gongaware said the pulling the plug refers to Ms. Faye. "I believe he was," Gongaware repeated. Email on 3/25/09 from Gongaware to Phillips: It's her (Faye) strong opinion this is dangerous/impractical w/ MJ's health/ability to perform. Response from Gongaware to Phillips: Not sure what to send back... Randy responded: "We need to pull the plug now. I will explain.".Gongaware said in depo he had no idea what Phillips meant. He said he didn't recall Phillips saying they needed to pull the plug on the tour (ABC7)

In another March 25, 2009, email, Ortega wrote Gongaware that it was Faye's "strong opinion that this is dangerous and impractical with consideration to MJ's health and ability to perform.". The email was sent on March 25, 2009, and was from Randy Phillips to Paul Gongaware. Gongaware denied that the email was a reference to calling off Jackson’s "This Is It" concerts in London but instead was pointed at "pulling the plug on Karen Faye. "We never talked about pulling the plug on the Michael Jackson tour, not that I recall.” said Gongaware. "I think Kenny wanted to pull the plug on her because of the way she handled the situation," Gongaware testified about Faye. "She tried to control access to Michael Jackson, and Kenny didn’t like that.” (LATimes)

"I thought he was in good shape at the press conference, I was there," Gongaware said at the deposition. Gongaware was at O2 arena and Phillips was with MJ. "MJ was late, Randy was saying I'm trying to get him going, I'm trying to get him going". Panish: Did Randy tell you MJ was drunk and despondent? Gongaware: No, not drunk and despondent. Just said he was having hard time getting him going. (ABC7)

As to Dr. Conrad Murray, Gongaware said there was 1 rehearsal he said hello to him. "It was basically a hello, on the floor at the Forum.". "Mikey asked me to retain him for Michael Jackson," Gongaware said about Dr. Murray. "I never hired him." (ABC7)

Panish: Is Mr. Phillips a good friend of your? Gongaware: I work with him. Panish played interview of Phillips to SkyTV after MJ died: The guy is willing 2 leave his practice for large sum of money, so we hired him (ABC7)

"I was told Michael wanted him as his doctor for the show," Gongaware said. Gongaware said MJ did not have any illness that he knew of. Gongaware: He had taken a physical, he passed the physical and from what I understand there was nothing wrong w/ him. Maybe some hay fever. Panish: Do you know what his blood test showed? Gongaware: It showed it was good?! Gongaware said he received email from Bob Taylor that everything was fine and that MJ had passed the physical. Gongaware said he never saw the results of the tests and doesn't know who saw them. (ABC7)

Panish: First you said how much did you want? (to Dr. Murray) Gongaware: Yes Panish: He said he wanted $5 million, right?. Gongaware: That's what he said. He said he had four clinics he would have to close, he would have to lay people off. Gongaware said Dr. Murray had been MJ's personal doctor for the past 3 years. He said he did not know how many times MJ had seen the doctor. "MJ insisted on him, recommended him, and that was good enough for me, it was not for me to tell MJ who his doctor should be" Gongaware said. When Panish asked if MJ would get anything he wanted, Gongaware said he tried to make sure he (MJ) had what he needed to do his job. Gongaware said he could've told MJ to hire the doctor himself. "He wanted a doctor and I wanted him to be healthy for this tour". Dr. Murray said he wanted more money, but Gongaware testified he told him the offer came directly from the artist and Dr. Murray accepted it. "I think he was willing to accept anything that MJ offered," Gongaware opined. (ABC7)

Gongaware addressed the topic of Dr. Murray in his testimony Tuesday by saying he believed AEG had no choice but to work with the Vegas cardiologist. “In this case, Dr. Murray was recommended by the artist. In fact, the artist insisted,” he said. (NYDailynews)

Gongaware acknowledged reluctantly that he negotiated a deal for the doctor that the pop star had chosen to accompany him. But AEG Gongaware testified his only role in the matter was negotiating the price of Dr. Conrad Murray's services in compliance with what Jackson asked him to do. Gongaware said that neither he nor anyone at the AEG investigated Murray's background or credentials. (AP)

"The fact that he had been Michael Jackson's personal physician for three years was good enough for me," Gongaware said. (AP)

Asked if he knew that Murray was in financial difficulties when he took the job as tour doctor, Gongaware answered no.He said that Murray initially asked for $5 million to travel to London with Jackson and tend to him during the tour. "I just told him it wasn't going to happen," he said, recalling that Jackson then suggested offering him $150,000 a month. "Michael Jackson insisted on it and recommended him and it was not for me to tell him no," said Gongaware. "I wanted to provide what was necessary for him to do his job...He wanted a doctor and I wanted him to be healthy." Even after the offer of $150,000, Murray wasn't satisfied. "He started saying he wanted more and I said, 'The offer is coming directly from the artist," Gongaware said. Minutes later, he said Murray accepted. "Did that seem desperate to you?" asked Panish."No," said Gongaware. "He just accepted Michael's offer." (AP)

Gongaware said he spoke on the phone twice with Murray. The first time, the doctor requested $5 million to join the “This Is It” tour as Jackson’s physician. The second time, Murray agreed to a salary of $150,000 a month, which was a figure suggested by Jackson.
“He started in saying that he wanted more and I said that offer came directly from the artist and he immediately accepted,” Gongaware said of their second phone conversation. He added: “It wasn’t a done deal. We agreed on what the compensation would be, but there was still a lot of open issues that had to be resolved.” (LATimes)

"We agreed on what the compensation was going to be, but there were a lot of issues to be resolved," Gongaware said. Gongaware said he recalled meeting with Dr. Murray where he was told the doctor was going to take care of the medical licensing in London. Gongaware and Timm Wooley are longtime friends. They are currently working on The Stones tour. Gongaware said he negotiated the price for Dr. Murray, but didn't negotiate the contract. Gongaware explained that he didn't do the negotiation, he would normally refer that to Wooley. (ABC7)

Panish showed video deposition of Gongaware and a declaration he signed about a month before giving the deposition. They contradict themselves. (ABC7) At first, Gongaware insisted he did no negotiating with Murray, but, confronted with emails and his previous testimony, he changed his position and said, "The only thing I did with Dr. Murray was negotiate a price." (AP)

Dr. Finkelstein and Gongaware have been friends for 35-plus years. Gongaware said he never offered Dr. Finkelstein the job of being MJ's doctor and said the doctor would be mistaken if he testified otherwise. Gongaware told the jury he called Dr. Finkelstein to ask what a fair price for a tour doctor would be. Doc told him it was $10,000/week. As to Dr. Finkelstein wanting to be the tour doctor, Gongaware said he didn't recall specifically, but knew he wanted it."After his death we may have talked, but I don't recall specifics," Gongaware said. Gongaware said he sees Dr. Finkelstein a few times a year, but MJ's subject never came up. Panish asked Gongaware if Dr. Finkelstein wanted to know if MJ was clean and using drugs. Gongaware said he didn't recall the conversation . (ABC7)

Panish: You were involved in terminating one of the nannies who took care of MJ's kids? Gongaware: Yes. Gongaware told nanny Grace Rwamba that her serviced would not be needed anymore because AEG was cutting down on MJ's expenses. (ABC7)

"I never read the contract, I was there when Michael signed it, but didn't see what was in it," Gongaware said. "Doctor Murray was 100% Michael's cost," Gongaware said. Based on the contract, Gongaware said 95% of the production expenses were MJ's responsibility, 5% AEG. Panish: Who decided there was a need for a written contract with Dr. Murray? Gongaware: I don't know (ABC7)

Gongaware said that if tour went forward, Dr. Murray would've made $1.5 million for 10 months. Ortega would've made almost that. "I didn't do anything to check his background. He was MJ's doctor and that as good enough for me," Gongaware testified. (ABC7)

Gongaware said although AEG never did a background check on Murray, in his view they had “checked out” the doctor according to their standard practices. “When we check out someone, we either rely on if we know the person or if they’re known in the industry or if they’re recommended by the artist,” he said. “And in this case, Dr. Murray was recommended by the artist — in fact, the artist insisted.” The Jackson family’s attorney pressed Gongaware. “You did nothing to verify anything about Dr. Murray, isn’t that true, sir?” Brian Panish asked.“Well, Michael Jackson insisted on him, recommended him and that was good enough for me,” Gongaware replied. “It’s not up to me to tell Michael Jackson who his doctor should be.” (LATimes)

Panish asked: “You could have told Dr. Murray at any time that his services were no longer needed, couldn’t you?” “No,” Gongaware replied. Panish then pointed out that the AEG executive had fired Jackson’s nanny after being asked to do so by the singer’s aide. (LATimes)

Panish asked Gongaware if he approved budgets for April-July including Dr. Murray as production expense. He said he didn't know which budgets he approved. "It's my job to get that show on the road," Gongaware said. Gongaware said he had to know how much the production had spent on any given time, but didn't have time to read the budget. Panish: Do you think you're good at your job, sir? Gongaware: Yes Panish: Very good? Gongaware: I think so (ABC7) Gongaware testified that he didn’t pay attention to the tour budgets that he approved, even though he was the tour manager.Paul Gongaware said he didn’t read through the budgets, instead trusting that the tour accountant for Jackson’s planned comeback concert series “knew what he was talking about.” Gongaware testified that Dr. Conrad Murray’s salary, although included in the company’s budget for several months, wasn’t something he saw as an actual payment that would be made.“If there’s a potential for cost we put it in our budget so there are no surprises later,” he said. (LATimes)

Gongaware often pleaded poor memory of events. He said he may have met with Jackson as many as 10 times, but could remember only two of the meetings and only one when Murray was present.(AP)

Gongaware said he doesn't remember how many meetings he attended at Carolwood house. He didn't recall a meeting where a vase was broken. "There was a meeting where he signed the contract," Gongaware recalled, saying there were more but he doesn't remember specifics. At the meeting in early June, Gongaware he was present along with Kenny, Randy, Frank DiLeo, Dr. Murray and Michael. "The meeting was about making sure MJ and Dr. Murray had everything they needed to care for Michael," Gongaware explained. "Yes, we did talk about health-related issues," Gongaware said." It was more a general meeting about what Dr. Murray would need." As to the June meeting, Gongaware said Michael Jackson was a little off. "He was just coming back from visiting Dr. Klein," Gongaware said. "I believe he was under the influence of something," Gongaware said. (ABC7) He remembered a meeting at which Jackson arrived late from a doctor's appointment and had slurred speech. "He was a bit off," he said, "that was the only time I saw him like that." (AP) Meeting was about Michael and what he needed for the tour. "Health issues were discussed at the meeting and Dr. Murray was there," Gongaware admitted. Gongaware told the police the topic of the meeting was Jackson's overall health, i.e., diet, stamina and his weight. (ABC7)

Gongaware said he attended a meeting at Jackson’s Holmby Hills home in June 2009 with other AEG executives; Frank Dileo, Jackson’s manager; and Murray. Gongaware said the hour long meeting was not about Jackson missing rehearsals, but about “whether Dr. Murray and Michael had everything they needed to take care of Michael’s health.”.“The topic of the meeting was Jackson’s overall health, i.e., diet, stamina and his weight,” the document read. “Jackson had missed a rehearsal and was thought to be dancing at home. However they discovered he was only watching video. Doctor Murray was receptive to their concerns and indicated he would take care of the situation.” (LATimes)

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Die Seite Vinticatemj hat die wichtigsten Aussagen aus der 4.Woche des Prozesses zusammengefasst und dabei immer auf die betreffenden ABC-Tweets aus dem Gericht verwiesen.
(sehr interessant!!!)


News summary for week 4 of the AEG trial
May 25, 2013

http://vindicatemj.wordpress.com/2013/05/25/news-summary-for-the-aeg-trial-week-4/

* Tohme was to be paid $100,000. Michael never approved of the payment (points 101-103). AEG said they were “facilitating the agreement between Tohme and Michael Jackson (???)

* AEG’s's email about “drama queen” evidently concerned Kenny Ortega’s worries. There is absolutely no concern for Michael’s health (points 205-207)

* To my surprise since the moment Branca and Kane were hired they was also informed of the events. The good thing though is that Branca at least offered some help. He also expressed doubt that any drugs were involved (points 211-212). But his involvement is a big surprise.

* Both Randy Phillips and Bob Taylor of the insurance company confirmed that Murray was hired by AEG (points 262, 266-269)

* Shawn Trell says that all of them signed Michael’s contract. But where are their signatures in the contract then? (point 343)

* They called him “freak”! (494-498, 375-382). Panish says it is the “tip of the iceberg”.

* The correction to Murray’s contract said he was to perform the services for the Artist, but at Murray’s trial Kathy Jorrie testified that the correction was not accepted and the text remained the same – Murray was to perform the services requested of him by the Producer (AEG). Point 448

* Murray’s contract was never sent to Michael’s attorney (point 521)

* AEG did not have Michael’s written approval for 50 shows though the contract required it in writing (points 530, 636)

* AEG had a “management agreement” with Tohme for the services rendered on the tour. Tell could not explain in why or in what capacity Tohme would be working – he was no AEG employee and no independent contractor (points 556-562)

* Randy Phillips threatened to take away Michael’s house if he did not perform! (point 580)

* There was absolutely not pressure on AEG – they were not losing anything as all the $34 mln. spent were to return to them in the form of MJ’s assets. So there were no reasons for all these AEG’s “concerns” (point 594)

* Michael had to guarantee the AEG spending by his personal assets (point 675)

* In April Michael was able to do multiple spins! (point 621)

* AEG was stalling Murray in getting his contract (point 625)

* Though Tohme was fired it was him (and Frank Dileo) who approved the expenses of $34mln. on behalf of Michael’s company 3 days after Michael’s death (point 644).

* When Michael was alive he did not provide a written approval of those expenses (point 697)

* Frank Dileo was to be paid $5 mln after Michael’s death! They say they did not pay him (point 691)

* Tohme and Dileo included payment to Murray into the expenses which were requested to be covered by the Estate (point 701)


maja5809 hat sie übersetzt, DANKE

Thome wurden 100.000$ bezahlt. Michael bewilligte diese Zahlung nie. (tweet 101 -103) AEG sagte, sie erleichterten die Vereinbarung zwischen Thome und Michael Jackson (??)

AEGs mail „Dramaqueen“ betraf offensichtlich Ortegas Bedenken. Es gibt absolut keine Bedenken zu Michaels Gesundheit (tweet 205 - 207)

Zu meiner Überraschung wurden Branca und Kane ab dem Augenblick wo sie eingestellt wurden auch über die Vorgänge informiert. Das Gute ist, dass Branca zumindest Hilfe anbot. Er gab auch zu Bedenken, ob Drogen im Spiel sein könnten (tweet 211 – 212) Seine Beteiligung/einmischung ist jedoch eine große Überraschung.

Sowohl Randy Phillips als auch Bob Taylor von der Versicherungsgesellschaft bestätigten, dass Murray von AEG eingestellt wurde. (tweet 262, 266-269)

Shawn Trell sagt jeder von ihnen hätte Michaels Vertrag unterzeichnet. Aber wo sind dann ihre Unterschriften auf dem Vertrag? (tweet 343)

Sie nannten ihn „Freak“! (tweet 494 -498, 375 – 382) Panish sagt, das sei nur die Spitze des Eisbergs.

Die Korrektur in Murrays Vertrag sagt er sollte seinen Service für den Künstler ausführen, aber in Murrays Prozess sagte Kathy Jorrie aus, dass diese Korrektur nicht akzeptiert war und der Text so blieb (wie vorher) – Murray führte seine Dienste aus, wie sie vom Produzenten (AEG) von ihm verlangt wurden. (tweet 448)

Murrays Vertrag wurde nie an einen Anwalt Michaels geschickt (tweet 521)

AEG hatte keine schriftliche Genehmigung von Michael für 50 Shows obwohl der Vertrag vorsah, das dieses schriftlich erfolgen musste. (tweet 530, 636)

AEG hatte eine Management Vereinbarung mit Thome für Dienstleisungen auf der Tour. Trell konnte nicht erklären warum oder an welcher Position Thome arbeiten sollte – er war weder AEG Angestellter noch unabhängiger Vertragspartner (tweet 556 - 562)

Randy Phillips drohte Michaels Haus wegzunehmen, wenn er nicht auftreten würde. (Tweet 580)

Es bestand absolut kein Druck auf Seiten AEGs – sie würden nichts verlieren, weil die gesammten 34 MIO $ ihnen in Form von MJs Vermögenswerten zurückerstattet würden. Es gab also keine Gründe für all diese Bedenken bei AEG. (tweet 594)

Michael musste mit seinem persönlichen Vermögen für die AEG Ausgaben garantieren (tweet 675)

Im Aprill war Michael noch in der Lage mehrfach Spins zu tanzen. (tweet 621)

AEG hielt Murray hin, ihm seinen Vertrag zu geben. (tweet 625)

Obwohl Thome gefeuert wurde waren es er (und Frank DiLeo) die Ausgaben von 34 MIO. $ genehmigten, im Namen von Michaels Company, 3 Tage nach Michaels Tod. (tweet 644)

Als Michael noch lebte gab er keine schriftliche Genehmigung zu diesen Ausgaben (tweet 697)

Frank DiLeo sollten 5 MIO.$ bezahlt werden nach Michaels Tod. Sie sagten, sie bezahlten ihn nicht (tweet 691)

Thome und DiLeo schlossen Zahlungen an Murray in die Ausgaben, die vom Estate gedeckt werden sollten, mit ein. (tweet 701)


noch paar Gedanken von Helena, Vindicatemj, dazu:

So Joel Katz was not Michael’s attorney. He was retained by AEG.
Michael never gave a written consent to 50 shows. AEG has no written confirmation of that. However their “verbal” agreement to 50 shows was regarded by AEG as an obligation for Michael.
At the same time AEG thinks that a similar oral agreement with Conrad Murray (backed up by numerous emails and the draft contract) is not valid and is not binding them to anything at all.
Besides never agreeing to 50 shows Michael never agreed to pay all production costs either. AEG hasn’t got Michael’s consent to that.
AEG evidently paid to Tohme and Dileo for making declarations stating that Michael had agreed to all those terms, though he did not.
This is probably Why AEG brought Tohme back at the end of June though Michael fired him in March. And this is Why two days prior to Michael’s death Randy Phillips was introducing Tohme to everyone as “Michael’s manager”.
Why were they making those preparations? What were they getting ready for just two days before Michael’s death?
Dileo did not really take particular part in making This is it, so the proposed payment of $5mln. was most probably for signing the declaration confirming the points not authorized by Michael but badly needed by AEG.

Joel Katz war nicht Michaels Anwalt. Er war bei AEG. Michael gab nie ein schriftliches Einverständnis zu 50 Shows. AEG hat keine schriftliche Bestätigung dazu. Trotzdem wurde ihre „mündliches“ Einverständnis über 50 Shows von AEG als Verpflichtung Michaels angesehen.
Gleichzeitig denkt AEG aber, dass eine ähnliche mündliche Vereinbarung mit Conrad Murray (unterstützt von vielen emails und dem Vertragsentwurf) nicht gültig ist und sie nicht an irgendetwas binde.
Ausser, dass er nie 50 Shows zustimmte, stimmte Michael auch nie zu alle Produktionskosten zu zahlen. AEG hat dafür nicht Michaels Einverständnis.
AEG zahlten offenbart Thome und DiLeo um Erklärungen abzugeben, die bestätigen sollten, dass Michael diesen Bedingungen zustimmte, obwohl er das nicht tat.
Das ist wohl der Grund, warum AEG Thome zurückholten, Ende Juni obwohl Michael ihn im März (Das war Mai, oder?) gefeuert hatte.. Und deshalb hat Phillips Thome zwei Tage vor Michaels Tod jedem als „Michaels Manager“ vorgestellt.

(Am 5.5.2009 schrieb MJ: "Auf meine Anweisung und mit sofortiger Wirkung ist Thome Thome nicht länger autorisiert, mich in irgendwelchen Angelegenheiten zu repräsentieren.")


auch dieser Artikel von Vinticatemj ist sehr interessant:

AEG-Jackson trial DAY 11. Rehearsals with TRAVIS PAYNE:
‘He was very tired, all of us were’

http://vindicatemj.wordpress.com/2013/05/24/aeg-jackson-trial-day-11-rehearsals-with-travis-payne-he-was-tired-all-of-us-were/